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Foxhelm
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Posted - 08 Mar 2007 :  19:08:07  Show Profile  Click to see Foxhelm's MSN Messenger address  Send Foxhelm a Yahoo! Message Send Foxhelm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why have them fight if they can merge into Sunress, Goddess of noble and dirty loves?

Well, the one answer is the kissing and making up after their mudbattles....

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 08 Mar 2007 :  22:47:24  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What's the difference, though, between love that is "noble" and love that is "dirty"?

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

What's the difference, though, between love that is "noble" and love that is "dirty"?



Whether or not jumper cables are involved.

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Kuje
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Posted - 08 Mar 2007 :  23:43:03  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

What's the difference, though, between love that is "noble" and love that is "dirty"?



Whether or not jumper cables are involved.



Or mud wrestling. :)

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 09 Mar 2007 :  01:43:32  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heh.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Kiaransalyn
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

What's the difference, though, between love that is "noble" and love that is "dirty"?


One you take home to meet your parents, the other you go back to their place.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 09 Mar 2007 :  18:42:51  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kiaransalyn

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

What's the difference, though, between love that is "noble" and love that is "dirty"?


One you take home to meet your parents, the other you go back to their place.



Heh. On a serious note, though, I think if the "love" in question really is love, then there aren't "two different kinds".

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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The Sage
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That's actually an interesting point.

The entire concept of love, because even the noblest love can be "dirty" at times, could be embodied by the aspects which Sune supports.

I said earlier that "Sune is about how love can lead you to the truest path of your heart's desire... sometimes even if you don't know it yet yourself." Sometimes, we don't see the love we have for another staring us right in the face, because we're consumed with feelings that impose themselves upon the love we should be feeling -- feelings of hatred, of anger, or perhaps, even resentment. This changes the state of what could be a noble love, to something that is "dirty". If the love is meant to be, then it will endure. It will evolve. It will become your true path to your heart's desire.

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KnightErrantJR
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Ah Sage, such flowery words . . . surely this is how you continue to make Lady K swoon, eh? . . .

"Because philosophy arises from awe, a philosopher is bound in his way to be a lover of myths and poetic fables. Poets and philosophers are alike in being big with wonder."--Saint Thomas Aquinas

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 10 Mar 2007 :  01:40:29  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heehee, good points, Sage.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Ah Sage, such flowery words . . . surely this is how you continue to make Lady K swoon, eh? . . .

Well, it certainly hasn't been the result of my appearance.

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Edited by - The Sage on 10 Mar 2007 01:41:47
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Kajehase
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Ah Sage, such flowery words . . . surely this is how you continue to make Lady K swoon, eh? . . .

Well, it certainly hasn't been the result of my appearance.




What about your smell, then?

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The Sage
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You heard about that then, huh?

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Talanfir Swiftfeet
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Posted - 19 Mar 2007 :  10:23:27  Show Profile  Visit Talanfir Swiftfeet's Homepage Send Talanfir Swiftfeet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is Sune a patron of only romantic love? What about brotherly love or motherly love or love for a pet etc.?

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quote:
Originally posted by Talanfir Swiftfeet

Is Sune a patron of only romantic love? What about brotherly love or motherly love or love for a pet etc.?



She's the deity of all forms of love, beauty, and passion. So, to me, she would indeed be the deity of brotherly love, family love, and the love people feel for their animals, etc.

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The Sage
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I'd agree with that for the most part.

Sune's dogma does acknowledge the reality that not all love is of the romantic kind... and that warm friendship and deep admiration for others -- which can be 'types' of love, though not necessarily romantic, shared between friends and family -- are just as much important to the faith, as is the concept of true and romantic love.

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yargarth
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Posted - 05 Apr 2007 :  06:01:43  Show Profile  Visit yargarth's Homepage Send yargarth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sune.

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GRYPHON
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Posted - 02 Dec 2007 :  19:15:58  Show Profile  Visit GRYPHON's Homepage Send GRYPHON a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would have to go with Sune...but Sharess is more fun...

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green knight
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Posted - 19 Dec 2007 :  23:29:39  Show Profile  Visit green knight's Homepage Send green knight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have the answer to whom would win a mud wrestling match between Sune and Sharess....................


everybody who got to watch.

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Darkhund
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I've an example I always use to define just how different the two are.

The sharessan bites into the delicious fruit, savouring every drop of juice, every crunch of it. The Sunite watches, and says that its beautiful.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 27 Dec 2007 :  14:20:11  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heh!

Sharess has a special place in my heart because she is the goddess of CATS.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Dec 2007 :  20:07:02  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Heh!

Sharess has a special place in my heart because she is the goddess of CATS.



Capitalizing that last word makes me think of that one particular internet craze... To paraphrase, "All your Realms are belong to us!"

I think I am officially required to go hide after bringing up the All Your Base craze...

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BARDOBARBAROS
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Posted - 27 Dec 2007 :  20:45:13  Show Profile  Visit BARDOBARBAROS's Homepage Send BARDOBARBAROS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sune of course..

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Robspieree
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Posted - 27 Dec 2007 :  22:15:26  Show Profile Send Robspieree a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sharess with a bit of Loviatar on the side :D

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 28 Dec 2007 :  14:47:38  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

Heh!

Sharess has a special place in my heart because she is the goddess of CATS.



Capitalizing that last word makes me think of that one particular internet craze... To paraphrase, "All your Realms are belong to us!"

I think I am officially required to go hide after bringing up the All Your Base craze...



Not that Cats. I mean the cute, cuddly mammal.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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