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The Sage
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Posted - 25 Jul 2003 :  13:21:28  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I guess there are just some things that even a Sage cannot understand...




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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 25 Jul 2003 :  13:26:47  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage  Click to see Bookwyrm's MSN Messenger address Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm assuming he's talking about Monty Python and the Holy Grail. However, it's been many years since I saw that movie. ::thinks:: At least eight, I suppose. I don't remember any rabbits, but that's where the "Holy Hand-Grenade" was from.

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Posted - 25 Jul 2003 :  13:39:17  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know what he was talking about, I just simply meant that these are probably films that are not worth my attention.




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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 25 Jul 2003 :  13:52:01  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage  Click to see Bookwyrm's MSN Messenger address Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know what you mean. I only watched it at my brother's insistance. Some of it was good. Most of it wasn't.

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Malanthius
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Posted - 25 Jul 2003 :  18:49:36  Show Profile  Visit Malanthius's Homepage  Send Malanthius an AOL message  Send Malanthius a Yahoo! Message Send Malanthius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
*sigh* It stands confirmed. I have a terrible sense of humor. I thought that flick was hilarious. My favorite part where the conjurer says "It ain't na ordinary rabbit! It's got a mean streak a mile wide!" Or words to that affect. The knights laugh at him, march to their deaths, and have to use the "Holy Hand Grenade" to kill the invicible bunny. Alas contrary to popular belief the blessed bomb didn't quite end the carrot killer...

Excerpts from the Pythoninomicon:

... And soeth, the most Holy of Hand Grenades didst not truly smite the vile bunny, instead sending it to a different realm entire...

The Dark Sorceress of Varonlee was badly wounded and almost out of spells. The company of fantastically optimistic opportunistic Legionaires were certain they were about to expunge the land of this vile evil; little did they know the ancient spell slinger had one last trick up her sleave. "Fools! I will call into the limbo between the planes and summon a creature foul beyond thine comprehension!" she screamed following with an oath of mighty words of such power the room trembled from them.
The smoke and dust coalesced into a small white rabbit.
"What?!!" screetched the sorceress, "I paid ten thousand rubies for a bunny?!!" Kicking at the animal in frustration, the Sorceress began to cast her second last ditch spell when the offended carrot connosiur ripped her in half.
Last spotted by the Company of F.O.O.L.s as they fled the fury of the berserk vegetarian, the current where abouts of this long eared monstrosity are unknown....


One last question sage, do you ever use any of the material that's been posted here, and how well did it work out? Thanks in advance,

Mal.


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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  03:55:43  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for asking Malanthius.

Most, if not all of the material that I display here at the shop has in some form or another been used in my home campaign. Some items were earlier creations in 2e format, which I had converted to 3e stats before posting them here. There are others where I have said which campaign I had used them in, and finally the are a few items that are just creations from a spur-of-the-moment inspiration from something I have seen or read about.

As for these items working, well in most cases that depends upon the player who is using the item, and the extent of my involvement (as DM) to carry out the necessary effects. A few items have had little impact on the campaign, while other more powerful and near epic items are sometimes over used - there is simply no happy middle ground in my campaigns unfortunately....

If you want any more information, I will email some of my players reactions and thoughts about some of the items I have introduced.


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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  07:09:27  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage  Click to see Bookwyrm's MSN Messenger address Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I certainly still want to know how they liked my creations, if at all. (Including other things I've created elsewhere.)

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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  08:07:43  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll get to that in my next visit Bookwyrm. I really have not used that many items from other creators that are displayed here at the shop, unless I have said so previously. I will see about incorporating some other designs of yours maybe tonight or in Wednesday's game.


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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  10:00:48  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage  Click to see Bookwyrm's MSN Messenger address Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thought that you had used some of them, at least before that staff(-sling) of elemental might . . . . I'd like to know that one worked, at least. I had to look hard to find some sort of special bit that was truly epic. I still wonder if it was enough.

That reminds me, I still have that non-epic staff-sling idea waiting. I suppose I ought to get off my sagely butt and take care of that one.

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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  11:36:07  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay Bookwyrm...I have set aside a number of your creations for my rather large dungeon adventure tonight. I'll let you know how my players reactions to the items and their uses are tomorrow.


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Anyway, here are two more items that will be used in my campaign tonight -

Staff of Greater Ability and Might
This old gray, withered and wooden staff was found among the personal possessions of the famous Cormyrian Archmage Beltram the Humble. The Archmage created this staff shortly before his 116th birthday mainly because he did not want to feel the greater effects of his advanced age and also to improve his mental faculties.

Caster Level: 10th
Prerequisites: Craft Staff, Bull’s Strength, Cat’s Grace, Endurence, Eagle’s Splender, Fox’s Cunning, Owl’s Wisdom
Market Price: 40,000 gp
Special:
This staff allows the use of the following spells -
- Bull’s Strength (4 charges)
- Cat’s Grace (4 charges)
- Endurance (5 charges)
- Eagle’s Splender (3 charges)
- Fox’s Cunning (3 charges)
- Owl’s Wisdom (3 charges)

This staff cannot be recharged (although a DM can alter this restriction if he may so wish).


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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  11:39:11  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And here's the other -

Ioun Stone of Toughness:

Caster Level: 5th
Prerequisites: Craft Wondrous Item, the caster must have the toughness feat
Market Price: 8,000 gp
Special:
These special ioun stones (which are usually of a light brown colour) possess all the standard features of a regular ioun stone. However this ioun stones of toughness grants the benefit of the toughness feat upon the PC when it is used.


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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  11:41:02  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As well as the comments on Bookwyrm's items, I will also have some Wu Jen staves from my 'Kara-Tur' adventures which deal with the four elemental aspects. I will post these creations tomorrow.




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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  14:14:17  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
NightElf suggested the idea for this in another scroll. It was in response to my idea about having a pre-described time for a specific activation on a spell -

Delayed Shatter
Evocation [Sonic]
Level: Brd 5, Chaos 5, Clr 5, Destruction 5, Sor/Wiz 5
Components: V, S, M/DF
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Close (30 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Area or Target: One solid object
Duration: Up to 5 rounds
Saving Throw: Will negates
Spell Resistance: Yes
Delayed Shatter creates a loud, ringing noise that breaks brittle, non magical objects up to 5 rounds after being cast upon the object.

This spell can only be cast on objects and is not an area effect spell.

Arcane Material Component: A 20cm in area piece of mica



This is only a rough working, and I am expecting suggestions for improvement since I believe there are some things that can be changed with this. However I would still like to hear your thoughts on this.


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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  14:14:50  Show Profile  Visit NightElf's Homepage  Click to see NightElf's MSN Messenger address Send NightElf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm all for giving out cursed items, and heres one of my player's favourites (actually My favourite, they hated it )

Dreamweaver, Quarterstaff +2

This highly ornate staff is constructed of carefully carved Onyx shaped in the form of a Dragon. Once equipped, this item forms a bond with the holder, and cannot be released. It functions perfectly as a +2 Staff, but when the holder attempts to sleep he is presented with terrible visions and cannot sleep properly. This prevents spell memorization and hit point regeneration overnight, and usually results in fatique the next day. This cursed item only activates when held by a wizard.

As I said, this is the perfect weapon against a wizard, the party recieved it from a zhentarim wizard just before they entered Daggerdale. He was undercover, of course, and this weapon proved quite notorius. (none of the PCs could use "Remove Curse" )

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I like this. I have been thinking about posting some of my more sinister () and cursed type magical items here.

The fact that the curse only operates at night and completely bonds with the wielder is an interesting addition, although I don't think that this item should really be unremovable, surely a wish spell can remove this item and sever the connection it has with the wielder?.


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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  14:28:32  Show Profile  Visit NightElf's Homepage  Click to see NightElf's MSN Messenger address Send NightElf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry, none of the pc's could use "Remove Curse" as in none of the PCs had that spell in their lists , if that's what you meant...

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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  14:34:29  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, that's okay . I just like to think that even the most sinister magical item that carries a curse can be negated in some way.


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Maybe you could change it so that it needs a special material to remove it, that could be the reason for an adventure?

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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  14:59:06  Show Profile  Visit NightElf's Homepage  Click to see NightElf's MSN Messenger address Send NightElf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good Idea, the item that you need could be in a long lost dungeon or something. Hows this:

Stone of Dispelling

This rune covered emerald is highly sought by mages and clerics alike. With ancient powers, this stone has the ability to dispel any magicks in the area once a day.

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That description is very vague. Perhaps some stats, and the specific magics that it can dispel would be more relevant. I understand that this stone would cancel the effects of the staff you detailed, but perhaps more information on this item would provide more uses for it.

What I mean is, just saying 'dispel any magicks in the area once a day' is very generalised. Does it work as per the dispel magic spell, or do you have something else in mind?.


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Hmm. I'll have to build on that one. Maybe it only cancels spells of a really high level, or even those under the effect of a "permanancy" spell. It could also only target items and not people. Anyway, I'll search up some stats later, I'll post them sometime.

I'll be back after work.

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That's a much better idea. I look forward to seeing the reworked result. If you need any help, just let me know .


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Posted - 26 Jul 2003 :  18:28:04  Show Profile  Visit Malanthius's Homepage  Send Malanthius an AOL message  Send Malanthius a Yahoo! Message Send Malanthius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sage of Perth

Thanks for asking Malanthius.

Most, if not all of the material that I display here at the shop has in some form or another been used in my home campaign. Some items were earlier creations in 2e format, which I had converted to 3e stats before posting them here. There are others where I have said which campaign I had used them in, and finally the are a few items that are just creations from a spur-of-the-moment inspiration from something I have seen or read about.

As for these items working, well in most cases that depends upon the player who is using the item, and the extent of my involvement (as DM) to carry out the necessary effects. A few items have had little impact on the campaign, while other more powerful and near epic items are sometimes over used - there is simply no happy middle ground in my campaigns unfortunately....

If you want any more information, I will email some of my players reactions and thoughts about some of the items I have introduced.





Thanks Sage. Just get to it when you get to it. was really curious how they would have reacted to "Keller's Folly"

Mal.

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Here's another of my Favourite Cursed Items.

Helmet of Mirrored Conception

This helmet appears to be a standard designed helmet, except for the small ruby set deep into the forehead of the piece. It shows no magical powers until securely fastened, at which point it becomes sealed and can only be removed by a "Dispel Magic" from a priest of level 10 or over. When the wearer of such a helmet interacts with another, the wearer sees the other person to be about five feet away from their true location. The player usually doesn't realise that there is any problem until Ranged Combat begins. The player will fire the ranged weapon, but the quarrel will pass through the illusion. The wearer cannot see the true enemy, and can only hit if they intentionally aim for the space to the side (why would they, they have no idea what's happening )

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