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Posted - 27 Jan 2007 :  19:54:46  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Are the Faerunian gods basically like mortals, with the same passions and flaws?

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Posted - 27 Jan 2007 :  20:21:05  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think the higher rank you get as a deity, the more you become less like a human and the more impersonal you get. You start to become the enigma of the portfolios you represent.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood

Edited by - Mazrim_Taim on 27 Jan 2007 20:23:25
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 27 Jan 2007 :  21:15:39  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree, and I mentioned this in another thread. The wider scope you can see (that is, the greater picture), the less likely you are to feel emotional about the smaller pieces of the picture, therefore the less human you are.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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Posted - 28 Jan 2007 :  04:07:56  Show Profile Send Markustay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would agree that the higher one goes the less 'caring' they become.

As I have stated in the past here and elsewhere, I feel that the 'powers' are just the next 'level up' from us. Think of it as a giant corporation, and mortals work in the mailroom. If you need a day off, you ask the next man up the chain (a deity). You wouldn't go to the CEO, because he would neither care nor even know who you are (if you even got close enough to talk to him).

So, when we need something, we go to our immediate supervisors (the 'gods'). A DvR20 god would be like a member of the board of executives. Ao (the CEO) noticing us would be like us noticing a single bacteria.

Just my way of seeing things, take it or leave it.

"I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone

Edited by - Markustay on 28 Jan 2007 04:09:43
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Posted - 28 Jan 2007 :  06:30:52  Show Profile  Send Calrond a Yahoo! Message Send Calrond a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree, and to get Ao to notice you as a mortal, you'd have to do something that affects his underlings in a very direct way, like Cyric and Midnight did at the end of the Time of Troubles.
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Mace Hammerhand
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Posted - 28 Jan 2007 :  09:35:14  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting topic, especially since I've been wondering the same while reading Azuth's conversation with El in "Temptation of Elminster" (Yes, I know I am far behind in terms of novels...sue me)

If the old Mystra kept a close link to El so that she would not lose the rest of her humanity it can be assumed that they are the next step up, so to speak.

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Posted - 28 Jan 2007 :  09:59:57  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think its a case of the gods being so much like the mortals, as of the mortals seeing them like themselves. This affects the way they present themselves to mortals. Avatars would then show much more human reactions than the pure essence of the god itself would do.

That being said, I see the gods as beings and incarnations of extremes and able to at times display emotions as humans, but then in a more intense form. At these times all gods are at their most dangerous as their love and hatred is so total that a mortal can barely fathom its extent, much less keep their sanity if coming in direct contact with the divinity.

Just some morning ramblings.
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Posted - 28 Jan 2007 :  22:41:31  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The answer as I see it, and Ed and THO if you care to confirm/deny, is somewhat. Imagine a human being, remove the barrier between conscious and unconscious, and magnify the whole thing in every direction until it extends through everything. Imagine a nation of human beings and add their minds together. Imagine what the consciousness of mountains and weather systems is like. Imagine what underlies and causes these things.

Then you have some idea of a (Realms) god. It's not distinct from human consciousness, but it's also different and much larger -- and not much like what's depicted in the Avatar novels, which is artistic licence, not meant to be taken literally.
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