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Blueblade
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Posted - 21 Oct 2007 :  02:31:23  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Two questions, if I may . . .
First, can Ed tell us any details at all yet about his short story that will appear in REALMS OF WAR? (Still scheduled for early 2008, I believe; yes?)
And second: a rumor has reached me that Ed appeared as Elminster at a roleplayed wedding when he was in Australia, and there gave an in-character speech about courtship and marriage rituals in the Realms, that some lucky people have the text of. Is this true? And if so, is it a "super-collectible," or can Ed share its text with us?
Thanks,
Blueblade

P.S. Is there still no sign of Ed's promised SWORDS OF DRAGONFIRE "goodie" on the Wizards site, or did I somehow miss it?
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The Sage
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My Lady Hooded One, a special thanks to both yourself and Ed for the speedy reply to my email. 'Twas a delightful read. And tell Ed, yes, I will be keeping in touch. I'll also ask the Lady K about that other matter as well.
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

And "Softhips" is a pet name for me, of course; I CAN'T imagine why.
love to all,
THO
Oooh! Oooh! Do we get a special "Lady Hooded One-endorsed" prize if we can work it out?

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arry
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Posted - 21 Oct 2007 :  13:17:31  Show Profile Send arry a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
. . . I'm currently trying to figure out just where I can sneak a brief scene into my future Realms fiction wherein two characters make love amid shards of Halruaan pottery.
Or, I suppose, INSIDE some family-economy-sized Halruaan pottery.
Hmm . . .



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Toweighlo Thiobar
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Posted - 21 Oct 2007 :  16:49:37  Show Profile  Visit Toweighlo Thiobar's Homepage Send Toweighlo Thiobar a Private Message
My wife and I (in the real world) have been taking ballroom dancing lessons, and are having a great time. I'm curious about ballroom dancing in the realms. Are there specific dances in places like Waterdeep or Cormyr? What do the nobles do at their revels? Do commoners have their own dances or the same?

Thanks,

Toweighlo
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riot the outsider
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I have a question about the FR logo whats the upside down moon and six stars stand for?

Those who fear the darkness have never seen what the light can do. http://s13.gladiatus.com/game/c.php?uid=67846




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Charles Phipps
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  04:20:59  Show Profile  Visit Charles Phipps's Homepage Send Charles Phipps a Private Message
Inspired by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin, I was curious Ed. Do Alternate layers realities exist in the Realms? Sort of like DC comic books? You're the original "Golden Age" Realms (though that would be Faerun-2 by DC standards), the modern FR verse is one, and everyone's campaign is in another level?

I just thought that's a fun idea.

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Mkhaiwati
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  05:14:32  Show Profile  Visit Mkhaiwati's Homepage Send Mkhaiwati a Private Message
as a side question to Charles question, how about shadows of Toril? I kinda envision that actually with the Mulhorandi. Since they were based off of Egyptians of Earth, perhaps the Egyptians and Mulhorandi are both shadows of a true location, and the "gods" are just reflections of the true gods (or people) located there.

"Behold the work of the old... let your heritage not be lost but bequeath it as a memory, treasure and blessing... Gather the lost and the hidden and preserve it for thy children."

"not nale. not-nale. thog help nail not-nale, not nale. and thog knot not-nale while nale nail not-nale. nale, not not-nale, now nail not-nale by leaving not-nale, not nale, in jail." OotS #367
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Charles Phipps
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  05:52:15  Show Profile  Visit Charles Phipps's Homepage Send Charles Phipps a Private Message
I got the impression that the Elminster/Ed conversations that used to show up in Dragon Magazine were canon, actually. Odd as that may seem. Yes, Elminster isn't Ed because El shows up at Ed's house to eat ice cream.

I think the old articles explicitly say that Elminster regularly visits Earth and present day Toril is contemporary with our world.

In other words, the Mulhorandi ARE Egyptians that got lost ala Stargate.

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Kuje
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  05:55:13  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Charles Phipps

I got the impression that the Elminster/Ed conversations that used to show up in Dragon Magazine were canon, actually. Odd as that may seem. Yes, Elminster isn't Ed because El shows up at Ed's house to eat ice cream.

I think the old articles explicitly say that Elminster regularly visits Earth and present day Toril is contemporary with our world.

In other words, the Mulhorandi ARE Egyptians that got lost ala Stargate.




Well, they are canon since theres El's portal to Ed's study in the Realmspace sourcebook and Code of the Harpers also says that El has visited Earth and chatted with Ed, etc.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Mkhaiwati
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  07:54:43  Show Profile  Visit Mkhaiwati's Homepage Send Mkhaiwati a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Charles Phipps

I got the impression that the Elminster/Ed conversations that used to show up in Dragon Magazine were canon, actually. Odd as that may seem. Yes, Elminster isn't Ed because El shows up at Ed's house to eat ice cream.

I think the old articles explicitly say that Elminster regularly visits Earth and present day Toril is contemporary with our world.

In other words, the Mulhorandi ARE Egyptians that got lost ala Stargate.




well, I've generally stayed away from asking Ed about Mulhorand since it was never portrayed as he developed it in his original campaign. However, since we opened this small can of delicacies, I was always under the impression that they came from someplace "Earth-like", not Earth. Since we are dealing with a fantasy world, claiming that they are from our real world could cause problems, not to mention what happened to the gods.

I was looking up for religious marriages, and found Scott Benning's (sp?) adaptation of the Old Empires Part Deux, and found one there very elaborate and full of ceremony. Online, most true ancient Egyptian marriages that I have found were low key, with a signed contract, the family escorting the bride to the new house, and possibly a large dinner afterwards. whoop-te-do.

What are Ed's thoughts on a Mulhorandi marriage? How much Faeruniazation of Egyptian (or near-Egyptian) ceremonies (including burial and death) is there?

My thoughts (with nothing written in canon as of yet) are that it depends on the gaming group. A group that loves ceremonies and fancifications will eat up the former (Benning's) idea. A group that likes gritty, realistic stuff would prefer something closer to the latter, I think.

"Behold the work of the old... let your heritage not be lost but bequeath it as a memory, treasure and blessing... Gather the lost and the hidden and preserve it for thy children."

"not nale. not-nale. thog help nail not-nale, not nale. and thog knot not-nale while nale nail not-nale. nale, not not-nale, now nail not-nale by leaving not-nale, not nale, in jail." OotS #367
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The Sage
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  09:36:00  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
Both Ed and THO in their replies here at Candlekeep, have told us that there are Realms portals to Earth, but that it is the D&D interpretation of our world.
quote:
Originally posted by Mkhaiwati

However, since we opened this small can of delicacies, I was always under the impression that they came from someplace "Earth-like", not Earth. Since we are dealing with a fantasy world, claiming that they are from our real world could cause problems, not to mention what happened to the gods.
Eric gave the strong impression they were kidnapped from Earth in Powers & Pantheons, but did not state so explicitly. Eric also hinted about this in Volo's Guide to All Things Magical, in the write up of the artifact relating to Ptah.

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Charles Phipps
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  20:57:30  Show Profile  Visit Charles Phipps's Homepage Send Charles Phipps a Private Message
BTW, for those who wonder where I got the Haruulan Pottery joke.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f350/Willowhugger/ForgottenRealms24-05.jpg

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Edited by - Charles Phipps on 22 Oct 2007 20:57:55
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  21:27:06  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Charles Phipps

BTW, for those who wonder where I got the Haruulan Pottery joke.

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f350/Willowhugger/ForgottenRealms24-05.jpg



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Charles Phipps
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  21:47:21  Show Profile  Visit Charles Phipps's Homepage Send Charles Phipps a Private Message
On my end, I tend to assume that Faerun is a slightly different universe from Earth and its possibly a parallel world (see the continents map and compare).

While not everyone likes mixing science fiction and fantasy. I tend to think it adds a fun dimension.

Pun intended.

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Hawkins
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Posted - 22 Oct 2007 :  22:20:21  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message
A Question for Ed:

Knowing that you are writing 50,000 word for the 4th Edition Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide, do you think that it will still be a place that the Realms grognards want to play (and DM)?

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 :  00:11:41  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all. This note from Ed, just received:


Hi. To HawkinstheDM, re grognards: if I can do anything at all about it (and I can), the answer to this is emphatically: YES.
'Twon't be the same, but it WILL be worth "living" and adventuring in. Promise.

To riot the outsider: the current FR logo is an artist's redesign "updating" of the original one, which itself simplified from MY original design, which was the crescent moon encircled by nine stars: my own heraldic badge.


So saith Ed. Who will return with more Realmslore as often and regularly as possible.
love to all,
THO
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Hawkins
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 :  00:29:44  Show Profile  Visit Hawkins's Homepage Send Hawkins a Private Message
Thanks to The Hooded One and to Ed!

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One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back. --Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking-Glass

"Mmm, not the darkness," Myrin murmured. "Don't cast it there." --Erik Scott de Bie, Shadowbane

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 :  01:15:50  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HawkinstheDM

Thanks to The Hooded One and to Ed!



Ditto!

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Warrax
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 :  03:21:01  Show Profile  Visit Warrax's Homepage  Click to see Warrax's MSN Messenger address Send Warrax a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello again, all. Warrax, Ed will indeed explore the various Faerunian philosophers and their written works here, when he has the time. That's precisely what he meant by "get to this," because the original questions he's responding to asked about books and the thinkers who penned them.
As to WHEN he has the time; ah, that's the kicker. He's off to Pentacon soon, and horribly busy with writing work between now and the end of January. He's not even sure if he'll be able to keep up with his hitherto pretty-regular schedule of Realmslore replies here at the Keep! Sigh.



Well, it's good to hear he's latched onto the idea and I wish him good luck with all that's soon to come. :D
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Silverstar1610
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 :  15:20:18  Show Profile  Visit Silverstar1610's Homepage Send Silverstar1610 a Private Message
Iím a distant lurker and not very knowlegable about Realmslore, so Iím not 100% sure of the rules of this place, but as far as I can tell, thereís no problem with asking another question when your last one is still in the queue, so Ö

Iím interested in childbirth and children in the Realms. How high is the mortality rate for mothers and babies, particularly in Cormyr and in Silverymoon? Are there any forms of pain relief that are particularly used? How high is the occurrence of multiple births amongst humans?

Iíd also be interested in hearing about childhood in Silverymoon, Cormyr and Waterdeep. How much do extended families get involved in raising children? What about schooling and education? And what would generally happen when adventurers have children, or anyone who has a profession which involves a great deal of travelling and danger Ė paladins, for example?

Oh, and can I be really cheeky and make an addition to the unanswered question I asked about Sunite wedding ceremonies? Iíd like to know whether the church of Tymora would officiate over wedding ceremonies, and what they would be like too, if thatís ok?

Sorry for the myriad questions! I didnít mean to ask quite so many. If theyíve been answered elsewhere, a kick in the right direction would be great.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Silverstar1610

Iíd like to know whether the church of Tymora would officiate over wedding ceremonies, and what they would be like too, if thatís ok?



I've not yet replaced the book, so I can't check... But I'm fairly certain that Shandril and Narm's wedding, in Spellfire, was officiated by a Tymoran priest.

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The Sage
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Aye. Wooly's right. There is a Tymoran ceremony in Ed's Spellfire.

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Charles Phipps
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 :  17:24:44  Show Profile  Visit Charles Phipps's Homepage Send Charles Phipps a Private Message
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Iím interested in childbirth and children in the Realms. How high is the mortality rate for mothers and babies, particularly in Cormyr and in Silverymoon? Are there any forms of pain relief that are particularly used? How high is the occurrence of multiple births amongst humans?


Ed's stated that there's a lot of herbalistic cures/pain relievers that are remarkably effective around Faerun. It seems that infant mortality is rarer in Faerun than it was in our world by a significant degree, though still not unknown.

I blame the elves for Realms pharmacology being so high.

quote:
Iíd also be interested in hearing about childhood in Silverymoon, Cormyr and Waterdeep. How much do extended families get involved in raising children? What about schooling and education? And what would generally happen when adventurers have children, or anyone who has a profession which involves a great deal of travelling and danger Ė paladins, for example?


http://www.candlekeep.com/library/articles/sse/sse_040506-07.htm

Go look up "God parents" for an extensive Ed answer.

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Charles Phipps
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quote:
well, I've generally stayed away from asking Ed about Mulhorand since it was never portrayed as he developed it in his original campaign. However, since we opened this small can of delicacies, I was always under the impression that they came from someplace "Earth-like", not Earth. Since we are dealing with a fantasy world, claiming that they are from our real world could cause problems, not to mention what happened to the gods.


Honestly, I'd love to see more of Ed Greenwood's Mulhorandi described. It seems to be very much like Robert Howard's Stygia (there's no shame in homaging the best, but I don't think Ed actually does much homaging unlike some). A land ruled entirely by the worship of Set seems like it'd fit my campaigns and the origins of the Thayans much better.

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Silverstar1610
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Posted - 23 Oct 2007 :  19:14:32  Show Profile  Visit Silverstar1610's Homepage Send Silverstar1610 a Private Message
quote:
I've not yet replaced the book, so I can't check... But I'm fairly certain that Shandril and Narm's wedding, in Spellfire, was officiated by a Tymoran priest.


I think you, or someone else, may have recommended that to me when I asked my Sunite question a while back, and I'd completely forgotten. Thanks :)

quote:
Ed's stated that there's a lot of herbalistic cures/pain relievers that are remarkably effective around Faerun. It seems that infant mortality is rarer in Faerun than it was in our world by a significant degree, though still not unknown.

I blame the elves for Realms pharmacology being so high.


Hehe. That's interesting. I'd like to hear more about that.

quote:
http://www.candlekeep.com/library/articles/sse/sse_040506-07.htm

Go look up "God parents" for an extensive Ed answer.


Ooo, thanks. I've been ploughing my way through the various articles, but I hadn't come across hat one yet. That answers some of what I wanted to know.

Thanks, everyone.
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