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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 11 Sep 2007 :  04:15:33  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
I don't think driving to Brisbane is an option for me... Perth is simply too far. I'll have to arrange air-travel to Queensland, I think.

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Warrax
Learned Scribe

Canada
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Posted - 11 Sep 2007 :  06:30:38  Show Profile  Visit Warrax's Homepage  Click to see Warrax's MSN Messenger address Send Warrax a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Warrax, you're very welcome. Just snuggle up, no need for thanks . . .
The time needed to reach Port Hope depends, of course, on traffic. From 400 and 401, you've got to cross most of Toronto, and hit the eastbound traffic, which is "steady heavy" on Thursdays (folks outbound to cottages in the Kawarthas, truckers and shoppers from Montreal returning home from Toronto) until the rush-hour commuters heading home make it REALLY heavy (starting around 3:30pm). They thin out a bit at Oshawa, and more at the 35/115 interchange.
I would say 2 hours. The meeting doesn't start until 7 pm, and I don't think Ed will be the first "attraction," so to speak. However, if you left things until 5 pm to start driving, you'd have a "hairy slow" height-of-rush-hour drive. So, 4:30?


Actually I'd be at the 400/401 between 3:15 and 3:30.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 11 Sep 2007 :  07:21:38  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
Perhaps all this "Ed in Oz" talk should be moved to its own scroll...

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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 11 Sep 2007 :  07:23:52  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

The drive from Melbourne to Brisbane is quite long!


My drive from Melbourne to Brisbane would be longer... But that's because the Melbourne I'm most familiar with is the one I live in, in Florida.

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Zandilar
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Australia
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Posted - 11 Sep 2007 :  08:51:49  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Zandilar

The drive from Melbourne to Brisbane is quite long!


My drive from Melbourne to Brisbane would be longer... But that's because the Melbourne I'm most familiar with is the one I live in, in Florida.



LOL. Yes I knew there was a Melbourne over in the US, I just didn't know which state. I'll have to go there one day to visit... If I ever manage to get over to the US.

Zandilar
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As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore

Germany
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Posted - 11 Sep 2007 :  11:07:42  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message
Dear Ed! Dear THO!

In preperation for my soon to come Cormyr campaign I digged through a my books to work out all the details. However, I was unable to find answers to the following questions. So I finally turn to you in hope to get the answers.

1. While flipping through Volo's Guide to Cormyr I noticed a map detailing the region around Eveningstar. This map (see p. 142) shows amonst others a FORGOTTEN KEEP. I was unable to find any info on what this keep is about, which history it has, what treasures it holds, who guards it and what not else?
When asking my fellow scribes on candlekeep the answer was somwhat unclear, that the "Forgotten Keep" might be identical to "Rivior's Keep" (from the Waterdeep novel) and/or "Ironguard" detailed by you in Dungeon Magazine #18. Can you clear things up for me?

2. The Adventure "Into the Dragons Lair" talks about only one Tavern being run in Eveningstar - The Welcoming Hand. Who were its original owners and what are the names of its current operators?

3. How did the war against Nalavara and her goblin armee and the war against the Shades effect the nobles in Cormyr? Did many of them loose their lives on battlefields? Are all those from Tilverton dead due to the catastrophe that happend there? How strong did the noble class emerge from all those wars anyway? Might the monarchic structure be endangered in Cormyr? If you could give some thoughts on this, I'd appreciate it a lot.

Thanks in advance for your time to answer these questions and I keep my fingers crossed that not all my questions are NDA related.

Ergdusch

"Das Gras weht im Wind, wenn der Wind weht."

Edited by - Ergdusch on 11 Sep 2007 11:08:33
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Skeptic
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My players have asked me a last little campaign before 4E is ready, so I'll to start it in Cormyr (thanks to the KoMD books!).

1) As opposed to the unique way the Knights got their charter, what would be the most obvious ways to get one ?

2) In back country areas (like north of Arabel) how the authorities deal with non-charted adventurers they encounter ?

3) I've looked in all my FR sources and nowhere I found a specific entry about the Gnoll Pass. I would like to hear anything that Ed can come up with without much effort.

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The Red Walker
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  01:03:54  Show Profile  Send The Red Walker a Yahoo! Message Send The Red Walker a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

My players have asked me a last little campaign before 4E is ready, so I'll to start it in Cormyr (thanks to the KoMD books!).

1) As opposed to the unique way the Knights got their charter, what would be the most obvious ways to get one ?

2) In back country areas (like north of Arabel) how the authorities deal with non-charted adventurers they encounter ?

3) I've looked in all my FR sources and nowhere I found a specific entry about the Gnoll Pass. I would like to hear anything that Ed can come up with without much effort.



As far as #1, I prefer a highly overlooked possibility.

Steal one....maybe from an undeserving, incompetent group.

Or have your players encounter a NPC who has....aquired one that he just might let them have for ????

A little nonsense now and then, relished by the wisest men - Willy Wonka

"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -

John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  03:06:44  Show Profile  Click to see Purple Dragon Knight's MSN Messenger address Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Warrax

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Warrax, you're very welcome. Just snuggle up, no need for thanks . . .
The time needed to reach Port Hope depends, of course, on traffic. From 400 and 401, you've got to cross most of Toronto, and hit the eastbound traffic, which is "steady heavy" on Thursdays (folks outbound to cottages in the Kawarthas, truckers and shoppers from Montreal returning home from Toronto) until the rush-hour commuters heading home make it REALLY heavy (starting around 3:30pm). They thin out a bit at Oshawa, and more at the 35/115 interchange.
I would say 2 hours. The meeting doesn't start until 7 pm, and I don't think Ed will be the first "attraction," so to speak. However, if you left things until 5 pm to start driving, you'd have a "hairy slow" height-of-rush-hour drive. So, 4:30?


Actually I'd be at the 400/401 between 3:15 and 3:30.

Then leave right away... if you arrive in Port Hope early, then you have time for an ice cream and to relax reading one of Ed's novels... :P

September 27th hey? can I bring all my FR paperbacks for Ed to sign?!?!?
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Warrax
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Canada
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  15:19:32  Show Profile  Visit Warrax's Homepage  Click to see Warrax's MSN Messenger address Send Warrax a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
Then leave right away... if you arrive in Port Hope early, then you have time for an ice cream and to relax reading one of Ed's novels... :P

September 27th hey? can I bring all my FR paperbacks for Ed to sign?!?!?



Heh. Yeah, that's the plan; I'll be leaving as early as I can and booking it out there with all haste.

Purple, did you get my last PM?
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  16:10:29  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Well met again, fellow scribes. I bring you this time Ed of the Greenwood’s response to a recent and truly juicy question from Blueblade: “Hi, Ed! I was in BakkaPhoenix a few days back, asking for release dates of your next few books, and ran into a * very * beautiful young lady who says you autographed her, uh, right-hand female chest area at last year's GenCon (I know, that may not narrow things down enough for you to remember her, but she also said she wore a costume that "had blue feathers and blue boots and not much else," if that helps).
Anyway, she wanted to pass on her thanks for your advice (apparently it worked and she scored an acceptance from the publisher she submitted it to), and a Realms lore question: did Azoun and Filfaeril have any other children (aside from Foril and the two princesses we know all about)? Stillbirths, babes spirited away, that sort of thing. I gather she's looking for a campaign hook: among the many bastard offspring of Azoun IV, a REAL heir. Neat idea, but probably impossible (given Vangerdahast's nosiness, for one thing), but I promised her I'd pass it along.
Oh, and she said if you're ever in Toronto, drop by BakkaPhoenix. Her apartment isn't far away and she can offer "great tea and ice cream" (I'm merely quoting, straight-faced, here; anything beyond tea and ice cream is er, heavily implied). Ed, you're a lucky man, if half the ladies who inhabit your lap at GenCons are like this one. Blueblade”
Ahem. I will merely mention to all scribes that BakkaPhoenix, on the south side of Queen Street near Bathurst, is Toronto’s [and, I believe, now North America’s] oldest continuously-running sf and fantasy bookstore; in the 30th Anniversary BAKKA ANTHOLOGY published a few years back, in a signed-by-all-the-authors trade paperback edition, Ed wrote a story as “Guest of Honour” based on his few days of volunteering, years ago, to run the store, amid current and former store staffers turned sf/fantasy authors Robert Sawyer, Tanya Huff, Fiona Patton, Michele Sagara West, Tara Tallan, Cory Doctorow, Nalo Hopkinson, and Chris Szego.
Without further comment, I present Ed’s reply:



I am indeed a lucky man, and do remember the lady in question. She fit my lap quite nicely. :}
I will preserve her anonymity here and now in case she prefers to use a pseudonym when her book does appear (she did mention she was thinking of doing so, and happens to be one of those human beings blessed - - or cursed - - with truly stunning good looks, so she might well need her privacy; guys as unhandsome as me attract relatively fewer stalkers).
As for the tea and ice cream, I’d love both, but as a married man I’d settle just for them. As a male, my body might, ahem, involuntarily demonstrate desires to the contrary, but I found her delightful as a person, not just as eye candy, and would prefer to add her to the ranks of my friends (and hopefully, fellow veteran writers). Gods, I sound old, don’t it? :}
Wherefore let me sweep away all thoughts of blue feathers (and what sweeping them away would reveal, for that matter) and apply myself to her Realmslore question:

No, Azoun and Filfaeril did not have any children aside from now-dead Foril and Tanalasta, and the still-living Alusair. Nor did Azoun have any secret marriages before he wed his beloved Fee.
So there are indeed lots of bastard offspring (as I’ve mentioned in a Wizards website Realmslore column, among other places) of Azoun IV, but no other legimitate heirs. No clones, stillbirths, or babes spirited away.
And yes, Vangerdahast has deftly mind-reamed Filfaeril to make sure of this. She didn’t catch him at it, at the time (he conducted scores of short sessions while she slept, some years back), but figured out later what he must have done, and (backed up by Elminster) in a memorable private confrontation, cornered Vangerdahast in the royal vaults, dropped the robe she was wearing to the floor to stand bared before the Royal Magician, and challenged him to rape her body as he’d already raped her mind. Angry and ashamed, but unable to bluster or deny in front of Elminster, Vangey apologized, explained he had been serving the realm as he saw best, and promised never to so spy on the minds of Azoun, Filfaeril herself (again), Tanalasta, or Alusair without the express, obtained beforehand permission of Azoun or Filfaeril.
It was, of course, a promise he broke. Several times.



So saith Ed. Who has taken pains, over the years, NOT to portray Vangerdahast as an evil man, but rather a man who will do ANYTHING to preserve and strengthen the realm of Cormyr (and remake that realm into what he thinks it should be). Vangey, like Filfaeril, is one of Ed’s “fascinating but underappreciated” Realms characters.
love to all,
THO
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Kajehase
Great Reader

Sweden
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  17:05:58  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

So saith Ed. Who has taken pains, over the years, NOT to portray Vangerdahast as an evil man, but rather a man who will do ANYTHING to preserve and strengthen the realm of Cormyr (and remake that realm into what he thinks it should be). Vangey, like Filfaeril, is one of Ed’s “fascinating but underappreciated” Realms characters.
love to all,
THO


As someone who don't think that the ends always justifies the means, I'd say that sounds like a pretty good recipe for indavertant evil. But that's just me

There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
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RodOdom
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USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  17:15:59  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message
Dear Ed and Lady THO,

Is there anything you can say about the Realms in 4e right now? Just a few words to reassure this tearful, trembling fan. :)
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  17:49:07  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase
As someone who don't think that the ends always justifies the means, I'd say that sounds like a pretty good recipe for indavertant evil. But that's just me



I don't want to start a big discussion here, but under D&D official alignments definition, "ends justifies the means" fall more under Neutral than Evil unless the means include killing innoncents, etc.

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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  17:57:25  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message
Gah! I'm so hopelessly behind!

But I noticed this (from around August 20) and had to ask:

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

No, he didn’t feel stalked by anyone (he DOES have two male and one female stalkers, and one of the male ones was at the con this year . . .


I wonder if that was the fellow Jeff and I *handled* at the WotC booth?

(Sheesh--that sounds so Sopranos. )

Erik
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  20:41:15  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
From what Ed said, Erik, I think so (he appreciated not only what you did, BTW, but the way you handled it).
Kajehase, re. Vangerdahast: that's exactly what Ed has been trying to explore with Vangey. How power corrupts, and how much evil someone can do while honestly TRYING to do good . . . and how what "evil" is depends on the differing viewpoints of those affected by/witnessing the deeds of the Royal Magician.
RodOdom, Ed can say very little about 4e Realms right now, for two reasons: NDAs and because: "Regarding many matters, I just don't KNOW the answers, yet. Change is always unsettling, so I quite understand why many scribes are upset, and many of the concerns raised by scribes are valid ones, and the 'worst case horror' scenarios raised by some would indeed be disasters, IF they happened. However, the best advice I can give right now is: wait and see. I as well as many other longtime Realms fans and designers are still aboard, we still love the Realms, everyone at Wizards wants the Realms to continue to succeed as setting, and we're all working hard on that. For some gamers, continuing their campaign at its current 'date' is the logical thing to do; regarding how best to handle your current characters, the best thing to do is wait and see the specific rules re. conversion or rebuild. Hang in there, everybody! The sky is not falling!"

So saith Ed. Thus far.
love to all,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 12 Sep 2007 20:43:22
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Foxhelm
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  20:51:51  Show Profile  Click to see Foxhelm's MSN Messenger address  Send Foxhelm a Yahoo! Message Send Foxhelm a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

From what Ed said, Erik, I think so (he appreciated not only what you did, BTW, but the way you handled it).
Kajehase, re. Vangerdahast: that's exactly what Ed has been trying to explore with Vangey. How power corrupts, and how much evil someone can do while honestly TRYING to do good . . . and how what "evil" is depends on the differing viewpoints of those affected by/witnessing the deeds of the Royal Magician.
RodOdom, Ed can say very little about 4e Realms right now, for two reasons: NDAs and because: "Regarding many matters, I just don't KNOW the answers, yet. Change is always unsettling, so I quite understand why many scribes are upset, and many of the concerns raised by scribes are valid ones, and the 'worst case horror' scenarios raised by some would indeed be disasters, IF they happened. However, the best advice I can give right now is: wait and see. I as well as many other longtime Realms fans and designers are still aboard, we still love the Realms, everyone at Wizards wants the Realms to continue to succeed as setting, and we're all working hard on that. For some gamers, continuing their campaign at its current 'date' is the logical thing to do; regarding how best to handle your current characters, the best thing to do is wait and see the specific rules re. conversion or rebuild. Hang in there, everybody! The sky is not falling!"

So saith Ed. Thus far.
love to all,
THO




The question is when has Ed ever given us Crap?

Answer: One or twice a day, maybe more with Diarheaia.

The better question is when has Ed written a crappy book for the
realms?

Answer: Depends on the literary critic.

Well that's my number two for the day. (Two cents that is. Keep your mind from the gutter. ^_^)

Ed Greenwood! The Solution... and Cause of all the Realms Problems!
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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  21:17:58  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage  Click to see Neriandal Freit's MSN Messenger address Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message
Fox that was so horrible I loved it :D. People are meant to give us Crap more then that a day actually, but usually most are like Ed..

"Eating people is wrong...unless it's on the first date." - Ed Greenwood, GenCon Indy 2006
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  21:28:34  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

From what Ed said, Erik, I think so (he appreciated not only what you did, BTW, but the way you handled it).

You mean *bloodlessly*? No fun!

He is, of course, very welcome.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

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Also check out my Realms work, most recently Shadowbane: Eye of Justice, out now on e-readers everywhere! (Kindle, Nook)

Edited by - Erik Scott de Bie on 12 Sep 2007 21:30:26
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  22:33:10  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi, everybody. This time Ed responds to Kentinal’s query: “How does Ed feel about a Living RF, that most likely will have many players used to Living GH or other Living settings?”
and couldn’t resist also addressing Wooly Rupert’s followup: “Living RF? Rinonalyrna Fathomlin? I know what you mean, but that's one of those typos that's too fun to ignore!”
Ed would like it known that he’d far rather meet a living Rinonalyrna Fathomlin than a dead one, because he’d like to chat (over dinner, perhaps, and NO, fellow scribes, don’t go reading into that what I think you will! Ed still vaguely remembers how to be a perfect gentleman), but handed me this more serious reply...



*blushes* Please tell Ed that I'd really love to meet him, myself!

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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RodOdom
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  22:41:41  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hang in there, everybody! The sky is not falling!




I gotcha, thank you !
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  22:42:32  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

I wonder if that was the fellow Jeff and I *handled* at the WotC booth?

(Sheesh--that sounds so Sopranos. )




Actually, it sounds kinda sexy.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  22:43:29  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

From what Ed said, Erik, I think so (he appreciated not only what you did, BTW, but the way you handled it).
Kajehase, re. Vangerdahast: that's exactly what Ed has been trying to explore with Vangey. How power corrupts, and how much evil someone can do while honestly TRYING to do good . . . and how what "evil" is depends on the differing viewpoints of those affected by/witnessing the deeds of the Royal Magician.
RodOdom, Ed can say very little about 4e Realms right now, for two reasons: NDAs and because: "Regarding many matters, I just don't KNOW the answers, yet. Change is always unsettling, so I quite understand why many scribes are upset, and many of the concerns raised by scribes are valid ones, and the 'worst case horror' scenarios raised by some would indeed be disasters, IF they happened. However, the best advice I can give right now is: wait and see. I as well as many other longtime Realms fans and designers are still aboard, we still love the Realms, everyone at Wizards wants the Realms to continue to succeed as setting, and we're all working hard on that. For some gamers, continuing their campaign at its current 'date' is the logical thing to do; regarding how best to handle your current characters, the best thing to do is wait and see the specific rules re. conversion or rebuild. Hang in there, everybody! The sky is not falling!"

So saith Ed. Thus far.
love to all,
THO




As someone who isn't especially happy about certain upcoming changes, I do appreciate the words of reassurance. Thanks again.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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turox
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USA
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Posted - 12 Sep 2007 :  23:06:33  Show Profile  Visit turox's Homepage Send turox a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hang in there, everybody! The sky is not falling!"

So saith Ed. Thus far.
love to all,
THO




Sorry just can't resist. Of course it isn't falling. That only happened once a long time ago when some upstart mage thought he could do a better job of being a god better than...well a goddess!

Turox Antas Dragonslayer -
"People will believe anything they want to believe, or fear to believe."
Wizard's First Rule: Chapter 36, Page #397, US Hard Cover (revealed by Zeddicus Zu'l Zorander).
Explanation by Zeddicus Zu'l Zorander: "People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People’s heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."
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Zandilar
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Australia
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Heya,

Sorry about this, but I gotta get this off my chest before I really do end up a nervous wreck. Oh yeah, and mild spoilers for The Orc King.

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
As someone who isn't especially happy about certain upcoming changes, I do appreciate the words of reassurance. Thanks again.



I don't know whether or be reassured or not. Especially in the light of the spoilers in the Drizzt novel The Orc King, and the implications of the Lady Penitent novels thus far.

Yes, change is unsettling. Unnecessary change even more so.

Elves looking nothing like the Sun and Moon Elves that we already know (will Sun and Moon Elves become Eladrin?)? Eilistraee going to win then loose big (In absorbing Vhaearun, the rumor goes she'll become Neutral. Drizzt says her followers are "Gone"!)? The Spellplague having gods knows what effects on some of my favorite NPCs? 10 or 100 years in the future virtually ensures that other favorite NPCs will be dead and gone or at least more in the background (unless they have the fortune to be Elves, in which case how changed will they be?).

Yes, that is the litany so far, I fear more is to come. It's really putting me off, and I haven't heard anything that's really excited me (except the rumor that Changelings might become a core race and may even be incorporated into the Realms). At this stage, unless something big comes out that really invigorates me about the 4e changes to the setting, I may cease to collect Forgotten Realms come 4e. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one in that position right now judging from the gloom and doom over at the WotC forums. Personally it's a decision I really don't want to make, but as they say "all good things come to an end".

Just one last comment, I actually play Dungeons and Dragons because it allows me to play a heroic character doing things I can't do in a world that is far more hopeful than our own. I don't play Dungeons and Dragons to have the gloom and doom of the real world thrust upon me. Points of Light might be fine for the core, but with the way the Realms are going it looks like they're plunging right along into it as well... That would be the thing that would put me off the most.

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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