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Blueblade
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  03:51:39  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Hi again, Ed and Lovely Lady THO,
I bumped into quite another sort of Realms fan in another store today (hairy, bearded guy with "tough guy" tattoos), and am posting this lore question for him:
If someone ends up "on the run" from the law in Amn, and flees to Waterdeep, or Cormyr, or Sembia, do any of those places have "agreements" with Amn that mean the running person is automatically "in trouble with the law" and subject to immediate arrest from local lawkeepers, the moment they get news from Amn (and how soon and how ungarbled and/or detailed would that "news" be?)?
I talked to his guy for a little while, and we're both well aware that bounty hunters or others from Amn could of course follow the running person and try to take revenge or capture him - - but if the running person hasn't offended against rulers back in Amn, would "the law" in any of those three places give an official hoot about the runner's alleged crimes committed in Amn?
Thanks,
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  14:57:40  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
I'm thinking, from campaign play with Ed as DM, that they wouldn't, but will of course whisk this query off to Ed for his definitive answer.
In the meantime, I have a question for all scribes: what region of the Realms is the least well-detailed, right now, but most needs better detailing?
Obviously every gamer may arrive at a different answer to this, due to the location and style of play in their campaign, but I'm hoping to provide Ed with a fairly clear picture of the "most gaping holes" in the published Realms.
Sometimes it's hard for both Ed and we his players to see these holes, because of OUR campaign locations and style of play.
Thanks, and love to all,
THO
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  15:17:01  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
In the meantime, I have a question for all scribes: what region of the Realms is the least well-detailed, right now, but most needs better detailing?



Lantan comes to mind (least well-detailed), but Sembia could be a better choice (needs better detailing).
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Jorkens
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  15:34:33  Show Profile Send Jorkens a Private Message
Well, the Vast, the Dragon Coast and Western Heartlands could use some information on the regions in general, there are information on several cities, but much of this dates back to Forgotten Realms Adventures book. In addition the dynamics of the regions as a whole does get lost a little bit when only individual settlements are covered. The Volo guides are great, but work best in combination with other books that takes a larger view. As these regions are located strategically in the middle of more covered regions it would be interesting to see how the relationship with these states and areas work to get a whole picture. The same goes for the Vilhon, even if it has had some coverage.

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Kuje
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  17:03:03  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
I'd still like a Moonshae update since most of the major Moonshae material was 1e or early 2e.

An update to Evermeet would be good since a lot has changed there since the 2e sourcebook.

My major pick though would be the Nel Isles. I know there's a little lore in one of the Volo's Guides but I'd like more. :)

Others, I know, for years now, have been clammering for updates on the other continents like Maztica/Zakhara/Kara-tur. I can't count the number of people who have asked, on many message boards, for updates on those three continents.

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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  17:28:01  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

Well, the Vast, the Dragon Coast and Western Heartlands could use some information on the regions in general, there are information on several cities, but much of this dates back to Forgotten Realms Adventures book. In addition the dynamics of the regions as a whole does get lost a little bit when only individual settlements are covered. ...

As these regions are located strategically in the middle of more covered regions it would be interesting to see how the relationship with these states and areas work to get a whole picture. The same goes for the Vilhon, even if it has had some coverage.



Yeah, that's a good answer.

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Xysma
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  17:38:14  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message
Lantan is an area that fascinates me and yet I have seen maddeningly little written about it. Chult has been given little attention since 2ed, I would really love to see some new info on it. Also The Golden Water would be a good candidate.

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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  17:49:01  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

In the meantime, I have a question for all scribes: what region of the Realms is the least well-detailed, right now, but most needs better detailing?
I think what I said last time would still be my choice. I'd have to dig that reply out of the archives though.

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Sian
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  17:49:20  Show Profile  Visit Sian's Homepage  Click to see Sian's MSN Messenger address Send Sian a Private Message
lot of the areas in the southen part really ... Lantan, Haluaa, Golden Waters ... might even say east/southeasten part of Sea of the stars, not to mention futher than Faerūn

the question wasn't which area we would rather see updated ... but which area that have been updated the least

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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  17:54:15  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage  Click to see Chosen of Moradin's MSN Messenger address Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

I'm thinking, from campaign play with Ed as DM, that they wouldn't, but will of course whisk this query off to Ed for his definitive answer.
In the meantime, I have a question for all scribes: what region of the Realms is the least well-detailed, right now, but most needs better detailing?
Obviously every gamer may arrive at a different answer to this, due to the location and style of play in their campaign, but I'm hoping to provide Ed with a fairly clear picture of the "most gaping holes" in the published Realms.
Sometimes it's hard for both Ed and we his players to see these holes, because of OUR campaign locations and style of play.
Thanks, and love to all,
THO



The Unapprocheable East, IMO: Thesk, the Great Dale and Rashemen, more than the others...

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  18:12:45  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

In the meantime, I have a question for all scribes: what region of the Realms is the least well-detailed, right now, but most needs better detailing?



Well, I will say that I think sometimes lack of detail can be a good thing. However, I will say I wouldn't mind seeing more information on places like Chult, Tashalar, the Shaar, the Plains of Purple Dust, the Lake of Steam region, the Ride (near Moonsea) and all the little "in-between" places that have been neglected over the years.

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scererar
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  18:58:38  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message
the South eastern regions of Fearun could use some more attention. I know the shining south covers some of this, but more lore and detail would be great

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At your Behest
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  21:26:16  Show Profile  Visit At your Behest's Homepage Send At your Behest a Private Message
My choice is the Western Heartlands, even though a few parts of it got some attention.

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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  21:48:20  Show Profile  Click to see Purple Dragon Knight's MSN Messenger address Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message
Lantan!!!
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createvmind
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  22:02:27  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
The question asked by the lady is which region is the LEAST well-detailed so perhaps we should just answer that question and hope the lore provided is useful to all.

Lantan seems to fit the question asked without it being a remote region and thus probably useful in many of our personal campaigns.
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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 30 Aug 2007 :  22:37:02  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage  Click to see Neriandal Freit's MSN Messenger address Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message
VELDORN

Come on, tons of igglies and googlies live there, and a vampire! Not many of those in Realms...

Edit: Plus, information pertaining to this area (besides from a novel point of view that I know we have coming out by end year) would be excellent considering there is a certain Compendium Article that will be coming out soon that involves this area, and would love to see more information about it for players who choose to use this...article...that is coming out :D

I think even you would enjoy THO, highly unique...or so I'm told.

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Edited by - Neriandal Freit on 30 Aug 2007 22:38:48
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 :  03:20:37  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message
THO, does this question concerns the Realms in 1375 or in 1475* ?

* For those who don't know, Google "orc king spoiler"

Edited by - Skeptic on 31 Aug 2007 03:21:51
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Penknight
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Wow. I really have to say that that is a tough question, Lady THO. I have a hard time (at present) keeping up with all of the new novels and sourcebooks that come out. If you mean overall, including 1st and 2nd Edition lore, I'd have to say the Moonshaes and the Greycloak Hills/Evereska also. But I wouldn't mind seeing a bit more on Evermeet if someone wanted to have a seat by the fireside and allow me to buy them a tankard of the House Best.

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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 :  04:10:59  Show Profile  Click to see Purple Dragon Knight's MSN Messenger address Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

THO, does this question concerns the Realms in 1375 or in 1475* ?

* For those who don't know, Google "orc king spoiler"

Wow Skeptic... I really hope this "Future of the Realms", as presented by this spoiler review of Orc King, is just some hoax.

Master of the Greenwood, Dear Lady Hooded: let me just say that I am terrified if this is what await the Realms. Not "both terrified and excited," no, just darn plain terrified.
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 :  04:16:47  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
no, just darn plain terrified.



Like I said in another thread, if they are going this way, we'll end up with new Realms* that can be fun to play with, but no more the Realms we have known and loved.

*Some years ago I ran a "Future realms" campaign where the majority of the gods have died because the humans quit them. It was a kind of post-apocalyptic setting (the Moonsea was completly poisoned due to Talona's death, etc.) and it was quite fun for a short campaign, but it was not the Realms.

Edited by - Skeptic on 31 Aug 2007 04:21:15
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Kuje
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 :  04:23:00  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

quote:
Originally posted by Purple Dragon Knight
no, just darn plain terrified.



Like I said in another thread, if they are going this way, we'll end up with new Realms* that can be fun to play with, but no more the Realms we have known and loved.

*Some years ago I ran a "Future realms" campaign where the majority of the gods have died because the humans forgot quit them. It was a kind of post-apocalyptic setting (the Moonsea was completly poisoned due to Talona's death, etc.) and it was quite fun for a short campaign, but it was not the Realms.



It won't be a Realms I want anything to do with. If these changes are truth, then it's been fun but I'll wash my hands of all my projects here on Keep and walk away from all FR sites.

Sorry if that sounds harsh but I'm exhausted with the seven years worth of changes that I've not enjoyed and which is turning the Realms into a setting that I don't want to DM in, play in, or even care to keep track of.

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Skeptic
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 :  04:25:15  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
Sorry if that sounds harsh but I'm exhausted with the seven years worth of changes that I've not enjoyed and which is turning the Realms into a setting that I don't want to DM in, play in, or even care to keep track of.



You know that WoTC won't go in your basement to prevent you to play (under any D&D edition or any other RPG) at any point of the FR timeline, no ?
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Kuje
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 :  04:32:23  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
Sorry if that sounds harsh but I'm exhausted with the seven years worth of changes that I've not enjoyed and which is turning the Realms into a setting that I don't want to DM in, play in, or even care to keep track of.



You know that WoTC won't go in your basement to prevent you to play (under any D&D edition or any other RPG) at any point of the FR timeline, no ?



You forget that some of us also work on fan material that we prefer to base on canon. Sigh. And on the same token, many DM's also prefer to DM using canon FR. So, that line you said above is a bit misplaced.

However, this debate doesn't belong in Ed's scroll and I'm done with it.

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Xysma
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 :  04:36:26  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

THO, does this question concerns the Realms in 1375 or in 1475* ?

* For those who don't know, Google "orc king spoiler"



I wish I hadn't done that...

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The Sage
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Posted - 31 Aug 2007 :  05:03:07  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

However, this debate doesn't belong in Ed's scroll and I'm done with it.
I agree.

In fact, let me just underline this particular point, and re-direct all future discussion of this issue, to this scroll.

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