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Calrond
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Posted - 18 Apr 2007 :  19:46:39  Show Profile  Send Calrond a Yahoo! Message Send Calrond a Private Message
To our Hooded Lady and Ed of the Greenwood,

I'm pretty sure I'll run into a huge NDA with this question, or perhaps it's been answered before. In The Temptation of Elminster when Elminster speaks with Azuth, Azuth tells him that "there will be other Mystras, in time to come." (p.37) It seems a little strange that he would say it that way if he was only referring to Midnight's replacement at the end of the Time of Troubles. Since he referred to Mystras, plural, (and this was ages after Mystryl became Mystra) it makes me think that there will be another Mystra, or form of Mystra, after Midnight. Also, in Faiths and Pantheons, it says that Mystra plans to eventually make the Shadow Weave a part of her own portfolio, even if it means sacrificing some of her humanity and absorbing some of Shar's darkness. (p.50)

My question is: Could Azuth's statement and Mystra's plan be connected?
I see a possibility of Mystra absorbing a part of the Shadow Weave and undergoing a sort of death-rebirth (similar to the Mystryl-Mystra death-rebirth brought around by Karsus). If there's anything you can say, I would love to hear it, but I understand that this is probably covered by an NDA.

Thanks to you both!
Calrond
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createvmind
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Posted - 18 Apr 2007 :  20:27:40  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Thank you for response, I am always referring to the realms when I ask questions here, sorry.

Your reply will help in what I assume is going to happen in the near future but now I fear my Players have taken it a step further.

A player is seeking Gloves of Storing because he believes (and has not shared this with anyone in game who might be able to talk him out of it) that he can reach into a bag of holding and instantly store what he seeks in his glove, thus appearing empty handed. I redirect my dimensional question now in regards to where will HE wind up likely and in what condition if he places a dimensional item within another dimensional item. He's one of those sneaky chap characters who are far smarter than they are sensible, is he in for a world of hurt in the near future? Or is this possible in some insane way?
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  03:00:06  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi.
To Calrond: Whoooo. You tread on Dangerous Ground For Mere Mortals. Ed will respond shortly (er, within the month).
To createvmind, Ooooo. Your player's character may indeed be in for a world of hurtin' ... or not. Again, Ed will respond.
And hello again, all. This time I present Ed’s swift response to Jamallo Kreen’s recent questions, that he suggested I ‘pare to the bone’ when presenting this answer, so accordingly: “The Age of Worms Adventure Path concludes in issue 135 of Dungeon Magazine, and Eric L. Boyd has written articles and web enhancements which allow it to be played in Faerun (including Chult). In the adaptation, Kyuss becomes a minor Chultan god worshipped by only a few cultists (at first, anyway!).
. . .
If Kyuss, a Chultan demigod, is killed by mortals, would they be eligible for elevation to godhood by Ao (using TSR's ToT logic, informed by your uber-wisdom), and if so, would they inherit his domains or his portfolio or both, or only his divine spark, being left to become the gods they want to be? (I can't see a lawful good character killing Kyuss and then relishing the prospect of having the domains of Evil and Corruption dropped in his lap, nor a good cleric or paladin wanting to become a divine patron of undeath!)
Second, since killing Kyuss is a Herculean task (pun intended), and would probably involve a team of adventurers, would they all become eligible for divinity, or just the one who delivered the final death blow, and if it's divided up, would they all become DR 1 demigods, or would the divine spark be spread so thin that they all become DR 0 quasi-deities? I know how I presently intend to run it, if my players ever succeed in doing it, but I greatly value your opinion on this, Ed, and want to make my campaign as "Realmsian" as possible, even though there is no way in the Fugue Plain that you'd ever run this adventure path for your players.
Cyric and Midnight took out greater deities and became greater gods themselves, which leads to my third query, one which may extend beyond the realm of NDA and into the cosmic sphere of "it's none of your business, mortal!" If a mortal obtains divinity by killing a god, does he or she become the same Divine Rank as the deceased, or might Ao (who can do anything s/he wants!) raise the mortal to an even higher rank or place him at a lower rank (for some inscrutable reason unfathomable to the gods themselves)?
Fourth (and finally!), the Hand of Vecna makes an appearance in this adventure path, along with a high-ranking cleric of Vecna. Eric's adaptation makes Myrkul stand in for Vecna, but there just ain't no Hand of Myrkul artifact, and the [i]Crown of Horns[i] might not do as a substitute. Master Ed of the Realms, is it possible that Vecna finally has a small toehold on Toril and can grant spells there, or is it more likely that some other deity is impersonating him and granting spells in his name to his poor, ignorant cleric?”
Right, duly trimmed (scribes can examine the entire post on page 25 of this thread), and here’s Ed’s response:



Any mortal can ascend to godhood if venerated sufficiently; why some achieve divinity and some do not is one of the Ultimate Mysteries, that only Ao can answer (many sages may second-guess, but none can presage or predict with certainty). In general, the destruction (permanent death) of a demigod raises a very strong possibility that a new demigod will rise to take the place of the vanished demigod.
The portfolios and domains of any replacement aren’t automatic; they have to do with the nature (mortal life, deeds, and interests) of the new demigod, and of the desires and actions of existing gods (who may or may not want to seize the vacant portfolios, and may or may not be prevented in doing so by the opposition of other gods, or their own too-different-from-the-desired-portfolio natures).
However, being the mortal slayer of any sort of god does NOT guarantee that said mortal will ascend to godhood, or replace the divinity they’ve slain. The Time of Troubles (Godswar, Fall of the Gods) was an exceptional time, with exceptional circumstances; so far as the wisest mortal sages can tell, in hindsight, Ao was trying to shake up the roster of existing gods and teach the survivors a lesson.
So a mortal killing a god now, or at any non-Time of Troubles time, might very well not Ascend to take the god’s place (they might well believe otherwise, of course, with what priests may have said about the examples of Cyric, Kelemvor, and Midnight).
The “divine spark” you speak of is Ao’s to compel or steer, BUT: any mortal (I stress: not already divine) godslayer who kills a god directly, hand-to-hand, rather than long-range (by spell or contrivance), will almost certainly be bathed in a “wash” of divine power blasting outwards, from the dying god.
They may well be slain or seared into twisted but still living ruin by such energies, but are usually also “touched” and changed by the divine fire rushing through them.
This is a DM’s chance to change a character’s race, alignment, and statistics of all sorts; I have usually used it to give characters stat boosts and “wild talents” (sorcerer-like “self-renewing” spellcasting abilities, for only a few specific spells or effects); in other words, nudging them a stride closer to being superheroes. They may well, of course, not know precisely what’s happened to them, until trial-and-error or “funny happenings” afterwards clue them in. (“Hey, I fell into the fire and DIDN’T GET BURNED!”)
So a character killing Kyuss would be eligible to replace him, yes, but highly unlikely. Yes, the entire party would be eligible, too, but if they didn’t strike a direct blow against Kyuss, their eligibility would been even more highly unlikely.
If no one “in wider Faerûn” knows of their deed (and any of them telling someone about it emphatically doesn’t count; a powerful wizard or priest with a reputation and believability of their own has to witness the slaying AND WANT TO SPREAD WORD OF IT), they probably wouldn’t start getting worshipped by anyone; ergo, no demigodhood or any other sort of godhood. They might well gain powers I alluded to, above (darkvision, self-healing, feather fall or dimension door ability, vitality: a human gaining the lifespan and vigor of an elf, or an elf doubling their natural lifespan), but would then have to use those powers to do things and impress people to try to get someone to start praying to them. In other words, it’s not likely at all that they’d achieve godhood by slaying Kyuss, but they might well gain personal benefits.
On the other hand, if the slayer is already a priest, and his/her holy mission of going up against Kyuss is known and approved of by the church or the deity (who would in turn order the church to celebrate it), said mortal godslayer might be deemed a “saint” or “holy champion” or something of the sort, of the deity they worship - - and it’s from the ranks of such Holy Ones that demigods often rise, especially if something befalls the main deity. Worship of a saint would keep that mortal alive and vital, beyond normal lifespan, and therefore a potential “god in waiting.”
No godslayer, mortal or divine, automatically achieves the same divine rank as their victim, although a middling god who single-handedly takes down a greater god USUALLY gains power. Again, veneraton of massed mortals plays a part, so the extent to which mortals know about the slaying (the public relations “selling job” best done by an existing and widespread priesthood) is a determining factor.
And lastly: yes, it’s possible that Vecna finally has a small toehold on Toril and can grant spells there - - but it is FAR more likely that a deity already in the Realms (Myrkul’s the most likely one, though it could be someone else trying to “horn in on” something that would otherwise fall to Myrkul because of his portfolio) is indeed impersonating him and granting spells in his name to his “poor, ignorant cleric.”



So saith Ed. Creator of most of the gods of the Realms and the “portfolio” system as a game mechanic (it existed in myths and legends long, long before there were any roleplaying games, of course).
love to all,
THO
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Iakhovas
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  07:20:47  Show Profile  Visit Iakhovas's Homepage  Send Iakhovas a Yahoo! Message Send Iakhovas a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Ed replies:
I meant only this: that it has been observed that many female drow clerics who venerate Eilistraee have chosen to remain “single,” where the definition of “single” means “not having a steady partner of either gender.”
My “lesbianism” comment in that sentence is there to point out an obvious reason why many such females haven’t taken a male partner: they don’t want to because they are lesbian (rather than, say, “bi”), and don’t dwell in a society where there’s a social need to take a male partner for protection, or to conceal their natures, or for any other reason.
Most of these single Eilistraeean clerics (lesbian or not) haven’t taken a lone steady female partner because they have found themselves part of a “family” of many fellow female drow clerics of the Dark Dancer (again, as seen in that scene in SILVERFALL), and so they have a dozen to a score of partners, rather than just one (again, lesbian or not).
I am not saying that as they grow older they won’t take partners; I’m saying that at any one time, when one looks at the clergy of Eilistraee, one will see a large proportion of female drow clerics who are, at that time, “unpaired.”
And yes, obviously a lesbian tendency would indeed mean the priestess concerned would seek out the company/companionship/love of another female. No priestess of Eilistraee “has to” be celibate, and many priestesses of the Dark Dancer live with many fellow priestesses, and haven’t settled on “just one” (other priestess or other female or male lay worshipper) as their lifemate, bedmate, or anything else.



So saith Ed. Who wrote a lot of specific, detailed, and explicit lore on these ladies that several TSR editors found TOO explicit, and “sat on” (which of course means: no, he can’t just post it here, as it belongs to TSR/Wizards). However, all scribes should gather from this that there are heterosexual, lesbian, and bisexual female drow clerics of Eilistraee, and that regardless of personal nature in matters sexual, many female drow clerics of Eilistraee live and work with other female drow clerics of Eilistraee in long-term-stable groups. One can imagine that within some of these groupings there is a lot of sex taking place, and often - - but I’d like to remind all scribes that it’s wrong to “automatically” assume such things about any stable group, such as: a family, a band of adventurers, or even a real-world football team. Just because they work together and stay together for years, it doesn’t follow that, if I may stoop to a colloquialism for a moment, they’re “all bonking each other.”
love to all,
THO




I wouldn't call myself a prude, but all this rampant homosexuality/bisexuality "trend" in the Realms is disturbing me. That it exists is quite clear, and I have no problem with that. But I also find it rather distasteful to expound on it and keep on including or alluding to these themes on FR novels. I'm just tired of it, and those are simply the things or type of lore that I'm not at all interested about or care to know or include in any of my campaigns or care to read about.

Ergo, I do NOT AGREE that MOST Eilistraeean clerics are lesbians, and even if a few were, I do not see them as sexually prolific (I'm using a tame term here because the alternative is simply but aptly disgusting, IMO!). While I never understood why Eilistraee and her clerics must dance NAKED (the dancing part is fine, but why naked?! *rolls eyes*), it is something else to portray most Eilistraeean drow clerics as swingers. (PLEASE leave out "Woodstock" in the Realms.) I'm rather dismayed by this, truth be told. But that's just me, I guess.

Except, I know it's not just me. *All* of the members of our role-playing group feel the same way. We sometimes crack jokes about naked dancing clerics already, because of the absurdity of it all. (what's next? voluptuous beautiful women swinging great or bastard swords in chainmail bikinis sans the freakish muscles that would usually come with it?)

*sigh* Forgive me if I sound angry. I am not. Just a bit annoyed, more dismayed. You'll prolly urge me to make up our own FR sans rampant nudity and prolific sex, but it is hard to ignore when you, Ed Greenwood, says otherwise. Despite everything, I still (as my rp buddies) consider your views as FR canon. Now, perhaps you understand my dismay.
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Iakhovas
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  07:45:15  Show Profile  Visit Iakhovas's Homepage  Send Iakhovas a Yahoo! Message Send Iakhovas a Private Message
Hello Ed,

In Silverfall, there was a large group of drow in the guises of human forms (followers of Vhaeraun?) living among the citizens of Scornubel. Were they effectively driven out of the city, or are they still there? Did Mystra's Chosen come back for them later to deal with them?

Another question. I heard a rumor that Elmister's tower is destroyed. How did THAT happen? Last I read about Elminster in Elminster's Daughter, he and his tower were both hale and unscathed. If this is canon, please refer me to the FR accesory or novel that details this.

Thanks.
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Iakhovas
Acolyte

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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  07:51:58  Show Profile  Visit Iakhovas's Homepage  Send Iakhovas a Yahoo! Message Send Iakhovas a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Iakhovas, I understand your hunger for lore, but Ed has actually covered much of the coinage you ask about, here at the Keep. Follow the link Kuje has helpfully provided, and there's quite an impressive list already provided. Coinage, like matters of the gods, seems to be something Candle-bearing scribes can't get enough of, and keep asking about.

love,
THO



Hah, so I'm not the only one obsessed with coinage. I did follow Kuje's link (thanks again, Kuje!) and got much from it... unfortunately, not all that I wanted. See, I'm so demanding.
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Daviot
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  10:01:01  Show Profile  Visit Daviot's Homepage  Send Daviot an AOL message Send Daviot a Private Message
Dear Mr. Greenwood and THO once more,

Excluding the ever-present threat of NDA, what has Yandrin Thorl, the mage of the Highdale mentioned by Volo, and the Pegasus Archery Company been up to recently? I've been poking around, but I haven't dug up any lore on them beyond the basics.

One usually has far more to fear from the soft-spoken wizard with a blade and well-worn boots than from the boisterous one in the ivory tower.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  11:13:23  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Iakhovas


Another question. I heard a rumor that Elmister's tower is destroyed. How did THAT happen? Last I read about Elminster in Elminster's Daughter, he and his tower were both hale and unscathed. If this is canon, please refer me to the FR accesory or novel that details this.

Thanks.



It's in the upcoming Shadowdale module.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/fracc/955697200

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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 19 Apr 2007 11:15:14
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by RevJest

'Disturbing', 'Distasteful', 'Disgusting'. I'm no doctor, but it seems pretty clear that you've come down with a bad case of ...

"Homophobia is the fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals. It can also mean hatred, hostility, or disapproval of homosexual people, sexual behavior, or cultures, and is generally used to insinuate bigotry. The term homophobic means "prejudiced against homosexual people," and a person who is homophobic is a homophobe."
- Wikipedia

And by the way, starting a sentence with "I wouldn't call myself a prude, but ..." says clearly that you most likely are a prude.

I don't come here to be exposed to people's irrational hatred of each other. So if you wouldn't mind sticking to asking questions about Realms lore, I'd really appreciate it.

- RJ


We really don't need this. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And disliking an emphasis on something is not the same as having an irrational hatred of it.

Let's keep this thread for its intended purpose: getting all sorts of juicy tidbits from the creator of the Realms.

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Iakhovas
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  11:27:25  Show Profile  Visit Iakhovas's Homepage  Send Iakhovas a Yahoo! Message Send Iakhovas a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by RevJest

'Disturbing', 'Distasteful', 'Disgusting'. I'm no doctor, but it seems pretty clear that you've come down with a bad case of ...

"Homophobia is the fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality or homosexuals. It can also mean hatred, hostility, or disapproval of homosexual people, sexual behavior, or cultures, and is generally used to insinuate bigotry. The term homophobic means "prejudiced against homosexual people," and a person who is homophobic is a homophobe."
- Wikipedia

And by the way, starting a sentence with "I wouldn't call myself a prude, but ..." says clearly that you most likely are a prude.

I don't come here to be exposed to people's irrational hatred of each other. So if you wouldn't mind sticking to asking questions about Realms lore, I'd really appreciate it.

- RJ



I'm no doctor either, but I do know I DON'T have a bad case of homophobia, and I resent your calling me one or labeling me one simply because of my disdain of portraying Eilistraeean clerics as mostly lesbian or sexually prolific characters. Evidently, you have misread the meaning of my post, and based on your aggressive reply, I won't bother to explain myself to you. However, it is your prerogative to draw false conclusions.

Be that as it may, I post here not only to ask Ed about Realmslore, but also to comment on other things especially when it pertains to whatever he has said.

And the only "irrational hatred" I gather here is from you ... so far. Anyway, I am not here to discuss or debate with you. With regards to that particular post of mine, I'm only interested in what Ed has to say , if he deems it worth replying to.
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The Sage
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Iakhovas, RevJest... as Wooly noted earlier, this is hardly the place for such discussions.

As it is, this scroll is purely for questions addressed to Ed. If you want to discuss specific replies with other Candlekeep scribes, I would suggest either taking them to another part of the forum and opening a new scroll or, in the case of the present discussion, taking it to PMs.

I'm not being critical of either of your positions on this, though such discussions have usually displayed a trend toward severe off-topicness. We mods like to keep Ed's scroll clean and tidy -- just for the questions and their replies.

Please take note of that and move on.

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Edited by - The Sage on 19 Apr 2007 16:13:42
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AlorinDawn
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  17:04:26  Show Profile  Visit AlorinDawn's Homepage  Click to see AlorinDawn's MSN Messenger address Send AlorinDawn a Private Message
Ed,

As I have said prior I will be attending Pentacon this year and wonder if you might find a few moments to do a short Realmsian "workshop"? As your time is in high demand I will of course understand if you cannot.

What I suggest goes along with one of my recent question about making place A seem different than place B. My proposal is that someone picks an inn or tavern from some random place and we do a small 5 or 10 minute roll play scenario with you as the NPC barkeep to get the local flavor of which ever place or region is selected. We can come up with some static "green adventurer looking for local legends or adventure hot-spots" scenario to give each go a similar focus.

Thanks for all the time you spend here with us.

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Edited by - AlorinDawn on 19 Apr 2007 17:05:59
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 19 Apr 2007 :  19:48:22  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello, all. Iakhovas, I sent your post off to Ed for his reply, being as you addressed him directly in it. Here’s what he just sent back:


Iakhovas, the “trend” in the Realms you object to simply doesn’t exist. Or to put it another way: the elements you find distasteful have been there from the beginning. The Realms is a big, hyper-detailed world, and I and others have put LOTS of things in it. From detailed insects, clothing dyes and poisons, to oaths and changing fashions and ever-evolving customs and fads.
When speaking about the Realms, I have always adopted the NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC approach: to stand back and dispassionately discuss everything. In the threads here at Candlekeep, I do so in response to questions.
As a designer, I put EVERYTHING in, for one overriding reason: in any roleplaying game, DMs need to understand WHY NPCs think and act as they do, so they can extrapolate what a given NPC will do in any situation that play goes in (as no published game material can possibly have space enough to cover all possibilities, and some DMs will want to use NPCs as continuing characters in a campaign, and so will need “aims, life goals, and attitudes” information).
Sexual needs and attitudes can be a big part of why NPCs act as they do: many quests, slayings, feuds, and PC adventurer hirings are rooted in love, unrequited love, the desire to impress or attract attention from someone desired, or to make amends, and so on.
The editors always take all sorts of material out of the lore material I provide, usually for space reasons more than anything else. But in the same way as 3rd Edition designers are required to “show their math work” to the editor (when working out character stat blocks), I have to show WHY characters think as they do, act as they do, and have the aims they do. It’s simply part of good roleplaying.
However, the sexual aspects of the Realms, except in the most overarching aspects (there was a conflict between Lancelot and Arthur over Guinevere because. . .), don’t need to be in everyone’s Realms roleplaying. At all. It’s purely a matter of personal choice.
In this thread, though, through the good offices of The Hooded One, I provide answers to specific questions posed by scribes, limited by my field of expertise (ask me how to invest in the stock market? Sorry, not competent) and by NDAs. To limit my responses, or for you or anyone to try to limit the scope of questions asked, is to try to take away the choices of others.
And that dismays and disgusts ME. If you don’t like the topic being asked about, or the answer, please just ignore it or don’t read it. You are certainly under no obligation to include the lore I provide here in your campaign.
If you attend GenCon seminars, you will know that although I often delve into topics some judge “lewd,” I do so always IN RESPONSE TO AUDIENCE QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
Some scribes want to know more, for whatever reasons. Sometimes in ways that puzzle me or go far beyond what I think is necessary for MY roleplaying (why does this god like this colour, or that herb or shoes or particular sort of vole? . . . As mortals, your characters can never know why; the god just does, that’s all). Yet I try to answer everyone.
Your games may neither include nor need mention of homosexuality or bisexuality; that’s fine. However, other scribes have interests of their own that carry the exact same weight of legitimacy as yours. You’ve recently asked a question about coinage in this thread; please be aware that I once had a brief and friendly argument with a TSR designer who said of my currency details, “Out with all that crXp! The game has gold pieces in the rules, and that should be good enough! Why all this totally unnecessary detail? It’s all just space-wasting crXp! Give me more monsters!”
(And as an aside: the design of a newly-created monster [and I’ve created more monsters for the game than anyone else] should ALWAYS include sexual details, so the life cycle can be understood: does it give live birth, or lay eggs? What stats and powers do the hatchlings or young possess? Do they have a market value, or are they edible? What does the beast’s lair, or egg nest, look like? Do they dwell in mated pairs, or mate and then separate [so are adventuring PCs who kill a female going to be hunted down by the lovelorn male, or did the female drive him away long ago]? This lore need not always appear in the published monster entry, but the company designers have to know it, so as to answer Sage Advice questions or to develop newer versions of the monster, later.)
All gamers feel different wants and have different needs, and I try to cater to all. In this case, a scribe asked a specific question, asking for clarification about an earlier reply of mine. If that request had not been made, I would not have delved further into the topic, PRECISELY because it makes some scribes uncomfortable.
For the record - - as specifically stated in the very post of mine you quoted - - I also do not find that “most Eilistraeean clerics” are sexually prolific. I do find that a large number of them, like a majority of clerics of all faiths and genders, have no steady partners: they devote themselves to the god and the faith, and the fellowship of various other clergy, rather than to life with one partner. Nor did I say that “most” Eilistraeean clerics are lesbians; I simply pointed out their strong presence as a factor, in response to a specific question. In this case, sexual ACCEPTANCE (not necessarily practices onstage, in anyone’s game) within Eilistraee’s clergy is important for roleplaying: it allows everyone to understand what’s going to be accepted, and what is not, and therefore how to roleplay characters who happen to be members of Eilistraee’s clergy. It warns a DM that a given female cleric of Eilistraee is going to have a lot of other females who care what happens to her, and may well attack PCs or others who mess with her.
The “dancing naked” aspect you find ridiculous is actually there because, long ago, a TSR editor requested it be, so a TSR artist could paint the picture he wanted to paint (that in the end, did not get used, although I believe it was sold privately to someone who presumably likes to look at art of nude dancing drow women). As for those “voluptuous beautiful women swinging great or bastard swords in chainmail bikinis sans the freakish muscles that would usually come with it” you mention, yes, I do believe I’ve seen rather a lot of those sorts of paintings, on the covers of a considerable number of fantasy games and novels... :}
As a freelancer, at the time of the dancing naked request, my job was not to dispute with those I was working with; my job was to incorporate. The design that results is of course shaped by that inclusion, because my overarching goal is always to make the Realms seem realistic, so that its systems “work,” or at least give the feel of doing so.
In the early days of TSR publishing the Realms, most matters sexual were taboo (a DRAGON staffer once vetoed an article of mine because he didn’t want me to mention that in some versions of the Arthurian legend, Lancelot and Guinevere were “lovers;” that one word was too strong for him, but had to be there as the [only mention of the] reason for the schism between them, breakup of the Round Table, etc.).
More recently in the history of the published Realms, more and more sexual details have been published (though please note that explicit sexuality has been there from early on: one of Bob Salvatore’s early drow novels, HOMELAND, ends with the female “valedictorian” of the graduating priestesses summoning and having sexual relations with a creature from the lower planes, which is much “stronger” than anything I’ve ever written). I’m guessing - - and this is merely my speculation, not anything I know of company policy - - that the boundaries are continually pushed in attempts to appeal to new potential audiences (e.g. lesbians, male homosexuals) by including elements they can identify with.
Again, this is merely a guess. I don’t - - and have never - - controlled the direction, focus, and breadth of the published Realms. I don’t even control what is printed and what gets cut in novels and game products that have my name on them (check the legal matter at the front of them, and you’ll note that they’re copyrighted by the company, not by me).
What I do, and have always done, is provide more Realmslore to gamers, readers, and other fans of the Realms. I do it here at Candlekeep by answering questions, as fully as I can. So if someone asks about matters sexual in the Realms, I WILL discuss said matters.
However, I’m not rebuking or disagreeing with you. Of COURSE many people find sexual elements disagreeable, in a variety of ways, and whenever someone dislikes what they see in a Realms product, and says so, we take note. I will pass this reaction of yours on to the relevant folks at Wizards - - because this is a service industry, or should be: we want to provide what fans want. That’s how sales go up, for the publisher: what’s being published gets continually refined and re-aimed or re-configured, to appeal to the widest audience. Whose tastes are always evolving.
THO and I both like to flirt, but neither of us has, so far as I know, been promiscuous since shortly after the 1960s (ooh, hey: yes, Woodstock! No, not in the Realms :}). Yes, that means we’re both “old” by the standards of many scribes. Yet we actually do think about a lot of other things besides sex. Really. Just ask us about other things, and we’ll talk about other things. Er, mainly. :}
Okay?


So saith Ed.
I, however, LOVE to talk about sex. And not just talk . . .
Ahem. Complaint accepted, Iakhovas; air cleared? Let us know, okay?
Ed will return with a Realmslore reply as usual, in six hours or so. AlorinDawn, that workshop idea of yours sounds great. Why don’t you suggest it to Lisa Adams, of Pentacon?
love to all,
THO
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With that out of the way and this recent debate leads into something I've been wondering about for awhile now. :)

Ed, do any of the races know of, or use, circumcision? If you would, also answer if there are any races/nations/etc that operate on female genitalia.... I phrased that as gently as I could think of.

Before someone has a fit, I'll give warning. I don't want to hear it. I discussed this with a mod before I posted it and that mod is also interested in hearing what Ed has to say. And I'm in a even worse mood after hearing about Dragon/Dungeon, so I don't want to read anyones problems with my topic. Thanks.

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Actually, Ed's most recent reply will help me to craft my own reply to a similar debate that's been raging elsewhere -- mainly about lore, setting details and how important they are for portions of the Realms-fan community.

And I was the mod Kuje discussed this with, so yes, I'm just as curious about this as he is. Let's actually hear what Ed has to say before we start to criticise the validity of such a question.

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For what it's worth, I'm interested too.

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Ed/THO: hey, I *am* a prude, a heterosexual married meat-and-potato guy one at that, but boy do I love lesbians! more lesbians!!!! lesbian-lesbian-lesbian-lesbian-lesbian-lesbian-lesbian-lesbian!!!!! Man oh man! I believe I even like the word itself!!!

Please pass that on to the "relevant folks at Wizards" too ok?

Disclaimer: I *did* originate from La Belle Province where every town with at least 1,500 souls *does* have a "rippers' joint"... AND *have* been exposed to many a "girl-on-girl" features, as early as age 17... (I know, they used to call me "the late bloomer" back then... )

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I wholeheartedly agree with PDK!!

On a slightly sadder note, have both you and Ed heard the news about Dragon magazine yet, THO? What are your feelings on it?
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Ah, PDK!
I've BEEN in some of those joints you refer to. A little too much "eons of cigarette smoke" for my tastes, but . . .
Ahem.
Hi again, scribes!
This time, I present the first half of Ed’s swift reply to Blueblade’s request for Realmslore: “I'm looking for some local tax collectors and police/Watch for Marsember; names and ranks of a handful of guys and gals who'd operate at street level, actually going into shops to say, "Hey, you haven't paid, so pay up."“
Ed replies:



Ah, I love these sorts of queries. No heavy-duty stats, just the roleplaying stuff, okay? In general, consider these F4s at most (the Watch) and F1s with some sort of accountancy prestige class (the tax bailiffs). So here, from my DM notes, are a few handy characters.

Watch: As with Arabel, the other “oft-rebel city,” most patrols are currently Purple Dragons, with one or two retired Purple Dragons (old but still hale locals who “know everyone in Marsember”) and one or two young Purple Dragons in training. As a result, the Watch in Marsember now uses Purple Dragon ranks. The lionar and swordcaptain wouldn’t be along on normal street patrols or bailiff visits, unless armed resistance was expected (if two patrols were mustered, the swordcaptain would probably accompany both as a commander; the lionar would be who everybody reports to (and angry citizens who want to complain would be brought to), and would only appear on the streets on a violent-confrontation-followup “restore the peace” visit, with more Watch patrol reinforcements, or coordinating a chase.
Here are a few names and descriptions:

Lionar: Saraera Delhand (LN hf F4): short, thin (bony; when unclad, her ribs can be clearly counted), never seen in Marsember out of uniform; her blonde hair is almost white; quiet, thin-lipped, apt to sound bitter or sarcastic; is lonely and a stickler for rules, precise adherence to the law, and order; she’d rather educate citizens as to their precise obligations the first time, and arrest or fine only later (values order over heavy-handedness; most citizens rightly consider her “stern but fair”). Her guilty pleasures (practiced only in private) include eating chocolate, bathing in warmed milk, reading lurid “hot-bottom” (soft porn) romance chapbooks; loves to dance and wear fine gowns, but dare not allow herself to do so in Marsember (takes annual vacation to Suzail, and there dances in the more expensive clubs and at nobles’ and Court events). Procuring the chocolate, milk, and chapbooks will be done when concealed in an ankle-length robe, with hood up, by night.

Swordcaptain: Beldran Velhikho (LN hm F4): a tall, ruggedly handsome, close-mouthed brawler who prefers to punish on the spot (often with a clout across the head or a boot up the backside, plus enforced “criminal provides restitution to victim,” plus warning: Do it again, or try to steal it back when we leave, and you’ll get worse the next time); favourite saying: “I break fingers, mind.” Large head, larger shoulders, brown hair and eyes, jaw and nose have both been broken but look all right; large and hairy hands; patient (apt to be amused if punched or slapped, not swiftly angry); street-wise and often calms angry subordinates, playing “soft cop” with citizens to get their agreement or to trick them into admissions of guilt.

First Sword:
1. Raskran Telstone (LN half-em F3): stone-faced, hard-eyed (icy blue hue), fair-haired, slender and agile fop; has his uniforms tailored, always wears clouts of the finest make beneath, and sports hidden knives sheathed at his wrists and the back of his neck (in addition to the usual inside-left-boot and belt daggers most Purple Dragons carry); is secretly contemptuous of many of the “lowcods” uneducated, grasping poor of Marsember, whom he has called “thieving weasels” in unguarded moments, but is careful not to speak out about, these days; always suspicious and looking for the worst in people (and so is seldom disappointed or caught unawares by swindles or tricks or illicit angles); has worked hard to really get to know Marsember, and is considered a very shrewd officer as a result; respected (and trusted) but not liked by those who work under and over him; his secret vice is crossdressing, and he has eagerly taken several successful assignments in feminine disguise over the years; his hobby is watching (and betting on) mud-wrestling fights (between two nude or barely-clad females, sometimes blindfolded) put on in certain dockside taverns or cellar rooms in Marsember, but such gambling isn’t against the rules and he never gambles more than he can afford to lose.

2. Kurlarra Stornsword (NG hf F3): fat, unlovely (“face like a barn door, if a cow had decided it was a barn door,” as one colleague once unkindly but accurately put it), red-faced, large-limbed (big thighs and shoulders, large hands), stolid and very patient officer. Not bright, but very methodical, forgets nothing, and keeps copious and careful written records, often catching crooks or uncovering schemes by noticing discrepancies and following coin trails. Loved by those who work with her, because she’s always patient, is never more impolite than rare flat refusals or moments or sarcasm, always does the right thing, and is quick to send reinforcements or sense when someone needs help and just silently “being there” without a lot of fanfare or pointing out shortcomings. Plods through life getting things done, but secretly dreams of being flirted with and taken dancing or out feasting by someone gallant, who will see past her homely looks and show her a little tenderness. Currently having a torrid secret affair with a crooked halfling fence of stolen goods (and is overlooking his business and “short” tax payments) because (behind barred as well as locked doors) he shows her tenderness, caressing her and giving her footrubs and backrubs.

Telsword:
1. Garlth Breakstag (LN hm F2): Balding, aging man with startlingly black busy eyebrows, who fancies himself dashing and gallant. Has a tiny sword-scar on his chin (which is usually blue with stubble), and strokes it often to draw attention to it as he smiles “winningly” at “the ladies and low lasses,” cocking his head to one side to show his profile. Wears oversized codpieces, strikes poses, and likes to murmur about recalling this or that time he “regrettably” had to slay this or that monster. Despite this frankly ridiulous posing, Breakstag is a good, observant officer who never makes serious passes (though he won’t remove his hands if a deceived lass lands in them, either), isn’t embittered by rejection (to him, this is all entertainment; “just blowing a warhorn at the passing parade of life”), and keeps morale high among those who work with him in the Watch and the local citizens who regard him as free entertainment. He’s amused at jokes played on him and jests at his expense, not angered, and more strangers trust him than almost any other Watch officer, and confide in him or surrender to him where they’d defy, lie to, or flee from, other members of the Watch. Breakstag is nearing retirement, and dreams of buying a small house in Suzail and setting up a brothel (he doesn’t want to wallow in female flesh every night; instead, he wants to have a family of beautiful women around him whom he can cook and sew for, who will flirt with him, bring him their troubles, and parade around unclad in his presence). He expects to spend years “finding the right girls” and setting up his establishment - - and dare not breathe a word of his dream to anyone in the Watch.

2. Dornan Tarszil (NG hm F2): Tall, thin, awkward, loping; a blazingly fast runner when he needs to be, with a soft and almost feminine face, long brown hair, big blue eyes, and copious body hair everywhere. A nervous, second-guessing-himself Watch officer who says little because of his insecurity, but is turning into an effective lawkeeper because he checks things over several times (both his own work and corroborating the stories of witnesses and suspects). Restless, seldom able to keep still for long, tends to prop himself against handy walls or doorframes and lean on them, watching and listening (if working with other Watch members, likes them to do the talking while he “sees all”). Is seldom caught unawares because he’s CONSTANTLY peering all around, looking behind himself, and wondering who might be approaching or overhearing (better check!). Notices EVERYTHING (this is the guy who spots half a footprint in mud half a block away, a tuft of hair or fabric caught on something high up or low down, and so on). Dreams of rising in rank and power, and being allowed to make laws and plan investments and the building of things in Marsember, so as to be “noticed” at Court and maybe one day being given a position at Court in Suzail, able to rub shoulders with nobles and important courtiers, and Do Important Things. He will NEVER break a rule or doing something imprudent, however, to try to further his dreams; rather, he tries to be the perfect Watch officer and just silently hopes recognition comes his way. (Even making what he sees as a minor error in judgement makes him feel ill.)

Blade:
1. Taera Hahlor (NG hf F1): plump, lush-figured, sleepy-eyed, and drawling, Hahlor (“HAL-lor”) acts bored, cynical, and nonchalant - - but it’s just that: an act, intended to lull citizens into thinking she doesn’t notice much and cares even less. If there was chewing gum in the Realms, she’d chew it. As it is, she chews tobacco (unlit cigars if she can get them) constantly, leans against walls whenever possible, slouches, and strolls. Underneath, she misses nothing and cares deeply for her fellow Watch officers (she’s the one most likely to notice an unfolding ambush or approaching trouble, and also the one who will spot when a fellow Watch officer is troubled, or overtired, or slightly tipsy, or in pain and trying to hide it. She is intensely loyal to the Watch, and will put that loyalty above upholding the law or keeping order or doing what’s good for Marsember. She has in the past had numerous affairs with various Watch officers of both genders, and has the knack of remaining friends with ex-lovers and making peace between Watch officers who have disputes with each other; as a result, she is trusted and supported by all Watch officers familiar with her (which is why only high-ranking Purple Dragons newly arrived in Marsember would even think of finding fault with her sleepy-seeming, lazy-looking ways; everyone else knows better). Hahlor is the person who knows what a Watch officer needs, and quietly arrives at their elbow to provide it; she’s the comforter of the grieving, the friend to those nauseated by their first wound or wounding, or seeing their frist messy corpse. It’s what she lives for. She’s clumsy with her sword and not as swift or agile as she once was; with a polearm of any sort she’s a trip-friends disaster.

2. Dorskar Haundur (NG hm F1): Dorskar is the stereotypical tall, strong, silent, big nose-bigger moustache grim-faced, stony-gray-eyes Watch officer; the “sentinel of stone who won’t break, and has a grip like unyielding iron.” Slow-witted but knows it, and is patient, trusts his fellow Watch officers and is happy to obey them diligently; doesn’t feel cold or wet, and is endless patient. Citizens who struggle and hit him, he’ll shrug and ignore, just holding onto them until told to treat them differently. Dorskar is NOT stupid, he’s just slow in his thinking, and prefers to let those (whome he trusts) who think more quickly, tell him what to do. “Others give orders; me, I do things.”

3. Saramistra Dunwynd (LN hf F1): Small, dark, pert, impish, and stunningly beautiful, with huge emerald green eyes, raven-black hair, exquisite curves, and a small, yielding “kiss me” mouth, Saramistra is probably the prettiest Watch officer AND Purple Dragon in all Cormyr, rolled into one. She knows it, and has been dealing with her looks since childhood; she’s been raped several times (and dealt with it, reaching a state of calm “it happened, but was no fault of mine, and I have come to understand and forgive” inner acceptance), become a consummate actress (so she can speak and walk like a man or a macho male halfling when she wants to, or act like a helpless fluttering female or a lost-in-lust young noble or high-coin lass, and so on), and is ALWAYS acutely aware of the effect she’s having on people around her (she’s watching their faces, speech, and actions constantly, as much as possible without seeming to). If she thinks her looks will distract on a given patrol, she’s been known to don a padded breastplate that makes her look fat rather than having a bosom, and cover most of her face with a wrap of bandages. She has also undertaken Watch missions “undercover” (sometimes “undercovers”) in various disguises, and regards such escapades as her chief calling and entertainment. She secretly dreams of impressing a high-ranking courtier with her work (and perhaps her looks, but she’d prefer that it be her work), and being “discovered” as an asset to the Dragon Throne, to serve the Court in Suzail as a courtesan escorting and hosting visiting dignitaries or nobles coming to Court - - perhaps as a Highknight (in other words, she doesn’t see such a “high life” as a end in itself, but as a way of gathering information for Cormyr, and serving the Realm as a spy and diplomat of sorts, and so becoming important and valued and “in the know”).

4. Harsakh Jorlarn (LN hm F1): Blessed with a forgettable face whose expressions he controls with an iron-hard grip, Jorlarn has a “thin-line-of-whisker” moustache, thin reddish-brown hair, hazel eyes, and a calm, dignified (“English butler out of the movies”) manner - - no matter what he might be feeling inwardly, or how out of breath he might be from chasing someone for blocks and then tackling them. He is careful to be correct and proper in his conduct, always follows rules, and is judged “distant but reliable” by his Watch colleagues. A poor swordsman of average build, with a distaste for threatening anyone or rough-housing, Jorlarn would probably be happier as a courtier, but has clawed his way up this far from dire orphaned poverty in the dregs of Marsember, and isn’t going to let anyone or anything stand in the way of his keeping his position in the Watch (or perhaps rising higher in the Watch or among the Dragons). Where Taera Hahlor might well do murder to protect her fellow Watch officers, Harsakh Jorlarn would calmly do murder to protect his own standing (e.g. disposing of a witness to a bad mistake on his part). To him, Cormyr is worth fighting and dying for because it is a land where someone like him can achieve what he has achieved by Doing The Right Thing, and rising on merit; anything that threatens this, also threatens all that is right and worthy in Cormyr - - so he will deal with that threat so as to defend Cormyr, by extension the only beacon of hope in the Realms that life affords better things for the lowly.

5. Brornar Elnauth (LN hm F1): A scarred, weatherbeaten-looking veteran who says little, hides behind a grim manner, and Does What Has To Be Done. He knows Marsember back to front, top to bottom, and inside out, and has been walking its shady ways for nigh half a century. He is deeply tired of Watch duty, but knows what’s necessary in any situation almost instinctively - - and when most crimes are discovered, knows who’s most likely to be responsible. As a result, he’s very seldom caught unprepared (nor “flat-footed”), and is very effective in street brawls, preventing escapes, or pouncing on fugitives who think they’ve managed to slip away. He’s fallen hopelessly in love with Taera Hahlor and in lust with Saramistra Dunwynd, and will put their safety ahead of his own, and supporting them ahead of the Watch, without hesitation. Of the two, he aches for Saramistra but feels someshat ashamed at himself for doing so, and wants to retire and live with Taera but doesn’t for the life of him know how to tell her his feelings (which he correctly thinks she senses but doesn’t know what to do about, and has thus far avoided thinking about). He drinks heavily (when off-duty), but is one of those rare people who doesn’t seem affected by drink at all (never “drunk,” his judgement and coordination remain unaffected, and so on). He has quietly been investing in buildings all over Marsember for years, and his wealth (and influence as a landlord) would utterly astonish his Watch superiors and colleagues if they ever learned of it.

6. Norskel Saerntavor (LN hm F1): Young, “green,” and very dedicated, and therefore constantly alert and careful to be attentive to his orders, the law, and his social duty as a Dragon and as a member of the Watch. Leaps to obey, is anxious to please his superiors, and tries to keep his mouth shut except to confirm commands sent to him, and to keep his face as expressionless as possible when on duty (he usually fails; almost always having an anxious look). Norskel is tall, broad-shouldered, and black-haired, with blue eyes, a rather chinless face that he tries to make up for by wearing “daggerpoint” sideburns that thrust forward along his jaw, and large, firmly-gripping hands. His voice is low and authoritative, but usually respectful. His secret vices are sweet confections and small, cuddly pets; he collects litters of kittens and lives with them until they become larger cats, whereupon he takes them to Jester’s Green (or farther afield) and releases them to hunt in the wild, and starts looking for more kittens. Norskel wants to be a good officer, but will always prefer to follow the orders of a strong leader. He’s longing to take to wife a capable, commanding woman who holds a superior rank in the Watch or Dragons, and settle down to be happy obeying her. He hasn’t found anyone suitable yet, and isn’t pining or desperate to do so; he simply has come to realize what he wants, and is starting to look for it.


So saith Ed. Who’ll send details of the tax collectors (a smaller handful of characters, I’m told) tomorrow.
love to all,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 20 Apr 2007 02:17:41
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Uzzy,
I've known about this only since the official announcement, but Ed has known about it a LITTLE longer. He can't, however, speak freely about it, except to say that it has NOTHING to do with declining sales of the physical versions of the magazines. It was a Wizards decision not to renew the license, not a Paizo decision. So it's NOT because D&D is less popular.
I realize that I'm tossing a half-hearted tidbit, when all gamers deserve to know much more. Ed can't say more, so let me just offer my lament: I've been reading DRAGON regularly since the early 40s (in issues), and read Ed's copies back through The Strategic Review, and by Mystra, Wee Jas and Takhisis, I'll miss it. Electronic goodies are no substitute at all for a print magazine you can hold in your hands every month - - and you can't leave a webpage lying around at bustops and airports and public libraries for complete newbies to find and gasp at and join the hobby.
So, we'll all just have to wait and see. Give Paizo a chance with Pathfinder, and give Wizards a chance with the website stuff. I wonder if Ed's lifetime subscription to DRAGON means he'll get free access to its website replacement? I'm betting not . . .

love,
THO
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Ed & THO,

OMG OMG Dragon and Dungeon gone............man, don't that beat all. this news has made me run about my house like the little screaming kid from the Mel Brooks movie Robinhood: Men in Tights

Anyhoo. Lesee....more lesbians is good

I will contact Lisa Adams and see what we can start in motion. (I'm new to the con thing, I've only been to one in 24 years of gaming, which I spent trying to get my roommate to stop picking on the "geeks" that reminded me waaaaaay too much of Ogre from the Revenge of Nerds movie. I actually hope to have fun at this one =).

Now the actual reason I'm posting this chaotic missive. Ed the watchmen/bailiffs descriptions was GREAT...man what role-playing goodness there is there. Thanks! Could you please do the same with a few NPC watchmen, Zhentish spies, agents, and interesting personas you might have laying around from Loudwater or any other little places in the lower Delimbiyr? Did I mention more lesbians?

Thanks

Currently reading: Eyes of The Dragon by Stephen King

Long live Sniffy Wigglebottom

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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Uzzy,
I've known about this only since the official announcement, but Ed has known about it a LITTLE longer. He can't, however, speak freely about it, except to say that it has NOTHING to do with declining sales of the physical versions of the magazines. It was a Wizards decision not to renew the license, not a Paizo decision. So it's NOT because D&D is less popular.
I realize that I'm tossing a half-hearted tidbit, when all gamers deserve to know much more. Ed can't say more, so let me just offer my lament: I've been reading DRAGON regularly since the early 40s (in issues), and read Ed's copies back through The Strategic Review, and by Mystra, Wee Jas and Takhisis, I'll miss it. Electronic goodies are no substitute at all for a print magazine you can hold in your hands every month - - and you can't leave a webpage lying around at bustops and airports and public libraries for complete newbies to find and gasp at and join the hobby.
So, we'll all just have to wait and see. Give Paizo a chance with Pathfinder, and give Wizards a chance with the website stuff. I wonder if Ed's lifetime subscription to DRAGON means he'll get free access to its website replacement? I'm betting not . . .

love,
THO



My dear lady, you must indeed have strong feelings on this to swear by cross planar goddesses! Its good to hear something, even if its a bit short of "full disclosure." This whole day since the announcement has been a bit of a disconnect from reality.

"Because philosophy arises from awe, a philosopher is bound in his way to be a lover of myths and poetic fables. Poets and philosophers are alike in being big with wonder."--Saint Thomas Aquinas

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Dargoth
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Australia
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  07:09:01  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Uzzy,
I've known about this only since the official announcement, but Ed has known about it a LITTLE longer. He can't, however, speak freely about it, except to say that it has NOTHING to do with declining sales of the physical versions of the magazines. It was a Wizards decision not to renew the license, not a Paizo decision. So it's NOT because D&D is less popular.
I realize that I'm tossing a half-hearted tidbit, when all gamers deserve to know much more. Ed can't say more, so let me just offer my lament: I've been reading DRAGON regularly since the early 40s (in issues), and read Ed's copies back through The Strategic Review, and by Mystra, Wee Jas and Takhisis, I'll miss it. Electronic goodies are no substitute at all for a print magazine you can hold in your hands every month - - and you can't leave a webpage lying around at bustops and airports and public libraries for complete newbies to find and gasp at and join the hobby.
So, we'll all just have to wait and see. Give Paizo a chance with Pathfinder, and give Wizards a chance with the website stuff. I wonder if Ed's lifetime subscription to DRAGON means he'll get free access to its website replacement? I'm betting not . . .

love,
THO



Do you know whether Eds long awaited 2nd Cities of Faerun will make it into print before Dragons shut down?

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"Its good to be the King!"

Mel Brooks

Edited by - Dargoth on 20 Apr 2007 07:57:47
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Zandilar
Learned Scribe

Australia
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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  08:00:48  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

Let me join the chorus and call for more lesbians and bisexual women! (And please, don't neglect the gays and bisexual men as well, even though that isn't my thing at all. If anything there seems to be an imbalance towards the queer girls, but that maybe because I'm only looking in their direction. )

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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Tormtar
Seeker

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Posted - 20 Apr 2007 :  09:35:23  Show Profile  Visit Tormtar's Homepage Send Tormtar a Private Message
Hi THO and Ed,

Let me add my admiration for the details of the Marsember Watch! Two questions today (greedy I know!):

Firstly: along similar lines, does Ed have any details of members of the Sword of Deepingdale, the Tower Guard and/or folks who make up the Tower Household?

Secondly: I don’t know if Ed is at all familiar with the countryside of Northumberland (England) and the Anglo-Scottish Borders (i.e. rolling hill country, moorland, many rivers, dense forest in places and a great number of old abandoned castle and holds) but, if so, where he would say (if anywhere) is anything like comparable in Faerun?

Not bothered about stats but, again, just roleplaying details. Thanks in advance.
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