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Taurren
Acolyte
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 Posted - 29 Dec 2006 : 21:55:47
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I've loved DL since the very first book was published, and although I have been disillusioned with a few of the recent books SAGA etc ... I still finding myself picking up any new DL book that Weis and Hickman write.
The original DL Atlas still holds a place very dear to my heart. |
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Aureus
Learned Scribe
Luxembourg
125 Posts |
Posted - 29 Dec 2006 : 21:58:56
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| can someone explain the concept of DragonLance to a noob (like me)? |
That is not the weirdest thing that happened to me |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Dec 2006 : 23:24:46
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Originally posted by Aureus
can someone explain the concept of DragonLance to a noob (like me)?
Not sure if any one can give you a complete concept but here's a place to start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonlance
Of course, the Dlance message boards is a better place to go, which are:
http://www.dragonlanceforums.com/forums/ |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
Posted - 29 Dec 2006 : 23:54:11
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| I haven't been a DL fan since Dragons of Summer Flame. Plus I dislike Raistlin, a lot. No offense to any Raistlin lovers. I used to argue with my friends over what was better DL or FR. I always liked FR better. I do give credit for the first three chronicle books in DL. I suggested that a coworker read then just last night in fact. Defintiely worth your time. That said I stay away from DL stuff now. Too much heartbreak and bad memories.... Hahahaha, way too dramatic there. :) |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Genis
Learned Scribe
USA
226 Posts |
Posted - 30 Dec 2006 : 07:08:52
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| lol i agree! i HATE raistlin....and for some reason ALOT of people like him....i think hes a mean arogent little prick...and i really dislike him...haha...but yeah i agree...and ive only to this point read to dragon of summer flame as well...and although they all die for the most part i like the series still...i mean it is sad...and i really felt it when Sturm died...and Tas....not so much flint but that was sad too i guess...lol...yeah...but im still a fan....just a non devoted fan....kinda like a non-practicing catholic...which i am also...i am technically catholic...but dont go to church....haha...i rahter enjoyed that analogy...go me |
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Zimme
Learned Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 01 Jan 2007 : 20:27:38
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Originally posted by Genis
lol i agree! i HATE raistlin....and for some reason ALOT of people like him....i think hes a mean arogent little prick...and i really dislike him...haha...but yeah i agree...and ive only to this point read to dragon of summer flame as well...and although they all die for the most part i like the series still...i mean it is sad...and i really felt it when Sturm died...and Tas....not so much flint but that was sad too i guess...lol...yeah...but im still a fan....just a non devoted fan....kinda like a non-practicing catholic...which i am also...i am technically catholic...but dont go to church....haha...i rahter enjoyed that analogy...go me
Bah... LONG LIVE THE MASTER OF PAST AND PRESENT! infidel!   Yeah the mortality and suffering of heroes adds to flavor, making it a greater victory when they finally vaquish evil and saves the world. Actally having to think and weigh consequences, instead of being able to just punch through everything in their way and laugh of it afterwards... |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 01 Jan 2007 : 21:12:19
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Maybe we should leave off with the Raistlin debate, since it's really not pertinent to the topic, nor is this a Dragginglance board (where such a discussion would be relevant).  |
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
436 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2007 : 17:25:08
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I own about 51 DL books and 58 FR. My husband prefers DL, and although I have read all of the ones I own, I prefer FR. I just find the characters more likeable.
I do like the fact that in DL, like RL, the big characters can die.
In FR there seems to be a lot of "as luck would have it..." or "somehow he managed..." and then the character pulls off some amazing feat that most often in RL would leave him a twisted pile of meat. (This may relate to the fact that we like the characters and therefore do not want to see them die.) |
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He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 29 Sep 2007 : 17:39:09
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I´m a great fan of Dragonlance, too.
Basically, I buy the FR old grey box in portuguese, and fall in love. Some months later, I buy (from a friend)the Dragonlance boxed set, too, Dlance MC and the War of the Lance trilogy. =)
Today, I have some DLance stuff (and Planescape and Dark Sun, too) |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 30 Sep 2007 : 03:33:56
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I love both but prefer FR. But I think if Raistlin would have originated in FR, it would have helped it grow bigger faster!
He would be a much better foil for the old sage than Manshoon or Szass. |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 30 Sep 2007 : 03:53:35
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I disagree in this, regarding Manshoon. Manshoon (as portrayed by Ed) is much more cunning and devious that what we are seeing of him...
And, on the other side of the coin, Raist in FR will not survive that long...
Think about it. To become the Master of Past and Present, he will need to destroy not Fistadantilus, but Larloch. Two rounds with the old lich, and Raist will change from Soulforged to Toyforged. |
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3563 Posts |
Posted - 30 Sep 2007 : 04:31:54
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Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
I disagree in this, regarding Manshoon. Manshoon (as portrayed by Ed) is much more cunning and devious that what we are seeing of him...
And, on the other side of the coin, Raist in FR will not survive that long...
Think about it. To become the Master of Past and Present, he will need to destroy not Fistadantilus, but Larloch. Two rounds with the old lich, and Raist will change from Soulforged to Toyforged.
Good point my friend. But I must humbly disagree on the last point.
Raistlin defeated Fistandantilus despite the fact the he was nowhere close to him in Magical might. Raistlin defeated him by outsmarting him and taking advantage of F's overconfirdence. Seems to me that Larloch has much in common with F.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 30 Sep 2007 : 04:48:56
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Originally posted by The Red Walker
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Originally posted by Chosen of Moradin
I disagree in this, regarding Manshoon. Manshoon (as portrayed by Ed) is much more cunning and devious that what we are seeing of him...
And, on the other side of the coin, Raist in FR will not survive that long...
Think about it. To become the Master of Past and Present, he will need to destroy not Fistadantilus, but Larloch. Two rounds with the old lich, and Raist will change from Soulforged to Toyforged.
Good point my friend. But I must humbly disagree on the last point.
Raistlin defeated Fistandantilus despite the fact the he was nowhere close to him in Magical might. Raistlin defeated him by outsmarting him and taking advantage of F's overconfirdence. Seems to me that Larloch has much in common with F.
Well, having 60 liches or so under your thumb does tend to make one a bit confident... And besides, I think that if Larloch could be outsmarted that easily, he'd not be in the position he's in -- he'd be another forgotten lich that never amounted to anything. |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 01 Oct 2007 : 18:02:24
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| I have the 3E DL Campaign Setting...haven't read through it yet or any of the novels I own....what I know is what i've been told from others and reading online info, but I would much like to sink my teeth into it sometime...if ever I get time away from FR, which I usually don't ;) |
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Valdar Oakensong
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
159 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2007 : 18:29:54
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| I read the Chronicles when they were 1st released back in '84 (yes I am old). I then discovered Dragon, then FR so I have a soft spot for DL cause they got me here. Never played the setting tho. |
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Haman
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 02 Oct 2007 : 19:27:17
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Dragonlance was my first real delve into fantasy writing, and I credit it with starting me on the path of gaming. The first 6 books were fantastic (original trilogy, then the twins series). But then I feel DL made some crucial mistakes, just a few being: Allowing anyone that wanted to write a book to write one, which led to a flood of really, REALLY bad DL books, and the first 12 or so modules that came out all centering around the trilogy where your players played the Heroes of the Lance and you had to follow in their footsteps as if shackeled, to save the world just like they did.
Thank Ao the first game I played in was run by a Realms nut and was set in Toril! For all the problems I started seeing with Dragonlance, it seemed the opposite with the Forgotten Realms. The obsession I was building up for gaming turned towards the Realms and has stayed there ever since.
I still feel sentimentality towards DL, and honor it, but I just think they made too many mistakes along the way and have had too many chances to correct it but failed. A game shouldn't be created based off of novels, especially if said novels revolve around saving the world or bringing about huge changes thus denying your characters from doing the same if you wish to use canon material. And it's not like you can just ignore the novels, as it seemed they only detailed lands/creatures/cultures in the sourcebooks, that were in the novels, and rarely anything else.
I still own Tales of the Lance (which WAS decent), the DL hardcover campaign book and the first 20 or so modules, but thats it. Whereas I own every single product for the Realms barring two items (Someday Great Khan game and H3, someday!), so yes I AM biased. |
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riot the outsider
Learned Scribe
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121 Posts |
Posted - 02 Oct 2007 : 19:48:25
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The DL books to me weren't great at all, FR blows them away,But thats fine if you like them. The best fantasy books i've read are the sunset warrior series by Eric van lustbader you should check it out if you like great fantasy.
P.s. the only DL character was caramon.
Also tell me what you think of my suggestion. |
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