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Ergdusch
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Posted - 03 Dec 2006 :  21:23:06  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Do you remember the 1st Ed. rules for mixing potions, either by intermingling or drinking two potions very quickly? It could cause funny effects from permanent effects to actually killing the imbiber.

I was wondering, why was it not converted in to later editions? And are you (playing the 2nd/3.x Ed.) is still using it today anyhow?

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I'm pretty certain it was in 2E. I think it was chucked out the window for simplicity's sake, in 3E. Though, if I was DM'ing, I'd happily keep those rules in place.

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Ergdusch
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Posted - 03 Dec 2006 :  22:20:08  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great to hear that - I loved it when playing 1st Ed. However, we had a group decission on taking the new 3.0 rules as they are/were - with no add ins or changes. that ment also - no potion miscibility.

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I still use them from time to time as well even in current rules. :)

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Posted - 03 Dec 2006 :  22:24:42  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And this previous April as part of the April Fool's day articles, they revamped the rules for 3.5, which you can find here:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20060401b
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Posted - 03 Dec 2006 :  23:46:54  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

And this previous April as part of the April Fool's day articles, they revamped the rules for 3.5, which you can find here:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20060401b



That explains it! I knew I'd read those more recently than my last perusal thru the 2E DMG... I just couldn't remember where I'd read them.

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Reefy
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 :  01:00:53  Show Profile  Visit Reefy's Homepage Send Reefy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like it. I think this may well find a way into my games.

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Halidan
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I never liked the potion miscibility rules. That's probably because I gamed with a couple of "gentlmen" who were very hard nosed about using the rules "exactly as written!!!"

Of course, that meant that using a healing potion of any sort while under the effects of another potion resulted in a roll on the dreaded chart.

I lost several characters to healing potion explosions. It was one of the reasons I started DMing in the first place.

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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 :  03:58:57  Show Profile  Visit Faraer's Homepage Send Faraer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch
I was wondering, why was it not converted in to later editions?
Because randomness is hard to 'balance' and takes power away from players.
quote:
However, we had a group decission on taking the new 3.0 rules as they are/were - with no add ins or changes. that ment also - no potion miscibility.
So the rules trump the Realms in your campaign? Boooo.

Edited by - Faraer on 04 Dec 2006 04:00:47
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Ergdusch
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 :  07:14:11  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

And this previous April as part of the April Fool's day articles, they revamped the rules for 3.5, which you can find here:

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/20060401b



HA! That is just great! Thanks a lot KEJR for this shared information.

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Ergdusch
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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 :  07:18:51  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch
[quote]However, we had a group decission on taking the new 3.0 rules as they are/were - with no add ins or changes. that ment also - no potion miscibility.
So the rules trump the Realms in your campaign? Boooo.



The rules are just what the game goes by - by stickin to zthe core rules the unique atmosphere that is the FR is not necessarily and immediatly stripped away, IMO.

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