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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader

Germany
2296 Posts

Posted - 18 Nov 2006 :  17:53:06  Show Profile  Visit Mace Hammerhand's Homepage Send Mace Hammerhand a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Is that clear now?



I somehow doubt it

Mace's not so gentle gamer's journal My rants were harmless compared to this, beware!
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore

Denmark
1066 Posts

Posted - 18 Nov 2006 :  21:58:26  Show Profile  Visit Victor_ograygor's Homepage Send Victor_ograygor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry and yes, i understand you now Wooly Rupert.

Yes youre right Mace , i just read the thread again, i did interpretet what you wrote wrongly.

Please forgive me.

I would like to see youre personalities here just to see how you create them.

Victor Ograygor The Assassin and Candel keeps cellar master

Everything I need to know about life I learned from killing smart people.

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Mkhaiwati
Learned Scribe

USA
252 Posts

Posted - 19 Nov 2006 :  10:09:49  Show Profile  Visit Mkhaiwati's Homepage Send Mkhaiwati a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
I would like to see youre personalities here just to see how you create them.


here is a previous thread that I commented on.

quote:
http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7596


as to how I "created" him, I started with a class and race concept. Then what his alignment could be. (that may change, along with anything else as the process goes along.) Since I wanted a Tiefling fighter/magic-user from Mulhorand that was neutral good, or thereabouts, it came together fairly quick.

Why was he adventuring? he had to leave the country.
Why was he good instead of the typical non-good? He had many same problems as others that suffer torment as a tiefling, but he had a family that trusted him.
Why did his family trust him... because it all ties in to Isis (also why was he a mage, he developed his love of learning, land, and farming also.. well within her spheres of influence, then his family was big into Isis.)
So, family came first along with his love of Isis. His growing experiences taught him not to trust others and his loner style. His background has instilled a fear of summoning, and a hatred those who would harm the Weave, including the Shadow Weave (harm the Weave, harm Isis. Okay, actually Mystra but he doesn't know that.)

It pretty much flowed well from there. Reading those other sites I linked to helped move things along. I decided what he likes and doesn't like from his background and threw in a few emotional, non-rational responses to fill him out.


"Behold the work of the old... let your heritage not be lost but bequeath it as a memory, treasure and blessing... Gather the lost and the hidden and preserve it for thy children."

"not nale. not-nale. thog help nail not-nale, not nale. and thog knot not-nale while nale nail not-nale. nale, not not-nale, now nail not-nale by leaving not-nale, not nale, in jail." OotS #367
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Zimme
Learned Scribe

Denmark
209 Posts

Posted - 24 Nov 2006 :  03:05:32  Show Profile  Click to see Zimme's MSN Messenger address Send Zimme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
when I create a char I start to create his/her personality when I have rolled his/her stats, I have a rather vivid emagination(as I suspect we all do), and based on those stats I cook up the personality. The chars want's, fears, desires, future goals ect. This works best when working with the DM, perhaps(if Im the player) giving me some artistic freedom with the background story :) that helps alot. it all stems from creativity, and I know that you have that in spades Victor!

Another thought, there was some talk of actors.. I remember reading a issue of dragon magazine a couple of years back, discovering an article about char's personallity.the article suggested that one could use famous(or less famous) characters from movies and tv(as Wooly did with his cleric) as inspiration. that works well too.

Sometimes I feel like Beshaba is sitting on my back, devoting her entire attention to me!

Rannek.


Edited by - Zimme on 24 Nov 2006 03:08:17
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe

United Kingdom
578 Posts

Posted - 24 Nov 2006 :  11:49:12  Show Profile Send Delzounblood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've found the best way or at least the way that worked for my younger brothers was as follows:

Ask the player toright down what they would do if WWIII broke out.
Would they scavenge, Fight, Help others etc

I then ask what they see themselves as if FR were true life.

Based on these two answers I got a pretty good idea that my brothers like me said Sod everyone else and look after number one.

My youngest brother being very sneaky and sly said he would ambush people for food So I gave him the option of playing a Thief or an Asassin.

He after some arguing decided to play a Ninja... A sneaky sly Ninja.

My other brother is a fighter and decided very quickly to become a dour Dwarven Fighter from Ten Towns (prize to anyone who can guess why!)

My problem was how to get a ninja from Kara-tur to the Icewind dale!!!...Cheers R'kid

But the whole point was that they Role Played the characters very well for beginers right down to voices, though the ninja DID sound like the guy from our local take-away with a put-on Bad Accent.

But it worked.

Delz

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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore

United Kingdom
1176 Posts

Posted - 24 Nov 2006 :  12:19:27  Show Profile  Visit Kaladorm's Homepage Send Kaladorm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Delz, that was hilarious reading

If anyone is having trouble designing a character I can strongly recommend playing a Cleric. There are loads of character options but more importantly the dogma and attitude of a Deity can strongly affect how the character behaves, and gives you a brilliant 'framework' to base your character around. The minor details can then be put in easily to make them a bit different.
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe

United Kingdom
578 Posts

Posted - 24 Nov 2006 :  13:16:34  Show Profile Send Delzounblood a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kaladorm

Thanks Delz, that was hilarious reading




I aim to please.

Delz

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LucianBarasu
Fellaren-Krae Co-ordinator

USA
214 Posts

Posted - 27 Nov 2006 :  08:08:59  Show Profile  Visit LucianBarasu's Homepage  Send LucianBarasu an AOL message  Click to see LucianBarasu's MSN Messenger address Send LucianBarasu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jorkens

Alignment to me is nothing more than an aid in role playing and will be chucked out as soon as possible. The system is to narrow to really capture a personality anyway and can merely give an idea of how the person thinks.

Its not so strange to base a character on elements of one self as it is easiest to play something you understand and know. Now, if you base a character on certain aspects of your individual personality and history ( which gives one quite a few to choose from) I don't see that as something in opposition to role playing.



THis I agree with wholly. It isn't strange at all to base your character on at least part of ones self.
more to the point of your original question,

If I am ggenerally a good perosn, And I was going to play an evil character, I would take a situation and usually do the opposite of my gut instinct.
From there you get into semantics ad alot and I mean ALOT of facets of alignment/personality.. but you get the point.

Lucian "The Bringer" Barasu
Fellaren Krae Project Co-Ordinator

"Why do you cry?"
"He is Conan, Cimmerian. He won't cry... So I cry for him."
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore

Finland
1564 Posts

Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  01:47:21  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Victor,

I do not understand why you criticized others, while your own character does not appear to show any personality beyond common fantasy cliches. So your character changed his alignment, and his personality changed. What makes him so special? An ex-assassin from Zhentil Keep who is now tormented by his past and trying to redeem his soul. Hey, show me a gamer who hasn't played 'tormented souls' and 'reluctant heroes'.
Besides, I never liked D&D characters who have Real World names… Victor O'Graygor (on the basis of his name) sounds more at home in the present day anglo-american culture than the Realms.
I ask again - why is your character any better than any of mine? Or why would you think yourself better at roleplaying than anyone else?

Wooly had a great point when he said that usually we take a familiar trait or aspect for our characters - something that we can IDENTIFY with easily. Sometimes we might also use an ideal trait that we would want to possess ourselves (i.e. brave, gallant, outspoken, etc.)
Then you can start adding more 'building blocks' to his/her personality. If that is not roleplaying, what is? Even if I chose to play an exact (fantasy world) copy of myself, wouldn't that be also roleplaying?
Maybe I am wrong, but I don't think there are 'right' or 'wrong' ways to create and roleplay your character.

And Victor, technically actors don't roleplay; they act.

"What am I doing today? Ask me tomorrow - I can be sure of giving you the right answer then."
-- Askarran of Selgaunt, Master Sage, speaking to a curious merchant, Year of the Helm
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore

Denmark
1066 Posts

Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  13:48:16  Show Profile  Visit Victor_ograygor's Homepage Send Victor_ograygor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As i said erlyer in this thread. Sorry it wasent my intension to criticized you. My english isent good because it isent my native lanuage. I dont consider myself a better at roleplaying than anyone else here, i just wanted to hear youre opinion abot creating a personality.

Again i am sorry.

Victor Ograygor The Assassin and Candel keeps cellar master

Everything I need to know about life I learned from killing smart people.

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Edited by - Victor_ograygor on 02 Dec 2006 14:25:14
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Zimme
Learned Scribe

Denmark
209 Posts

Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  22:24:10  Show Profile  Click to see Zimme's MSN Messenger address Send Zimme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

Victor,



And Victor, technically actors don't roleplay; they act.




To-play-a-role and acting how is that two different things? Please tell me, I genuinely would like to know?

Sometimes I feel like Beshaba is sitting on my back, devoting her entire attention to me!

Rannek.


Edited by - Zimme on 02 Dec 2006 22:25:06
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore

Finland
1564 Posts

Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  23:00:01  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zimme

quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

Victor,



And Victor, technically actors don't roleplay; they act.




To-play-a-role and acting how is that two different things? Please tell me, I genuinely would like to know?



Note that I said technically. I don't think that many actors would themselves define their work/craft as "roleplaying". Certainly, they "play roles", but it has a different meaning than "roleplaying".

"What am I doing today? Ask me tomorrow - I can be sure of giving you the right answer then."
-- Askarran of Selgaunt, Master Sage, speaking to a curious merchant, Year of the Helm
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Zimme
Learned Scribe

Denmark
209 Posts

Posted - 03 Dec 2006 :  20:03:31  Show Profile  Click to see Zimme's MSN Messenger address Send Zimme a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

quote:
Originally posted by Zimme

quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion

Victor,



And Victor, technically actors don't roleplay; they act.




To-play-a-role and acting how is that two different things? Please tell me, I genuinely would like to know?



Note that I said technically. I don't think that many actors would themselves define their work/craft as "roleplaying". Certainly, they "play roles", but it has a different meaning than "roleplaying".


the meaning of the words, ok I get you now, or rather I get your interpretation of it.

Sometimes I feel like Beshaba is sitting on my back, devoting her entire attention to me!

Rannek.

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