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stephenslate
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Posted - 14 Dec 2011 :  06:49:42  Show Profile Send stephenslate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i went with the choice of netheril because anyone that can can steal or magically take a gods power and leave them a mortal has got to be the top of the art, the only thing that might equal that is the binding ritual of the high magic of the elves but it does not strip the power from a god just binds them so i say hail netheril :)
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Dennis
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Posted - 14 Dec 2011 :  07:14:51  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by stephenslate

i went with the choice of netheril because anyone that can can steal or magically take a gods power and leave them a mortal has got to be the top of the art, the only thing that might equal that is the binding ritual of the high magic of the elves but it does not strip the power from a god just binds them so i say hail netheril :)

Indeed. And I must add, other than the new and expanding Reborn Netheril (of Telamont Tanthul), the Old Netheril still has its lingering effects to the practitioners of the Art in the present time.

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Thauranil
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Posted - 29 Dec 2011 :  12:50:22  Show Profile Send Thauranil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted for Aryvander for their sheer magical power and suicidal arrogance in telling every other elven kingdom to get bent at the end of the Crown wars. I wonder if a splinter faction could possibly be resurrected? And no i dont count the fev ri as Aryvandese.

Edited by - Thauranil on 29 Dec 2011 15:15:08
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stephenslate
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Posted - 10 Jan 2012 :  09:04:44  Show Profile Send stephenslate a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am curious to one point, if a mortal can achieve divinity by having at least 200 followers and look for, and find a way to achieve it, besides being patitioned by a deity to take thus position, then any mere mortal could achieve this over time which in theory the imaskari wizards would be correct in assuming that deities were mere very powerful mortals just like the netheril archwizards believed, i might not have specified everything from the 1st ed. rules and the forgotten realms rules for divine ascension but the point is made.
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Dennis
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Posted - 10 Jan 2012 :  14:47:12  Show Profile Send Dennis a Private Message  Reply with Quote

I'm not sure if that's how they saw it. Some of them were aware that a few deities were not ascended mortals. I suppose their general or most common perception and attitude towards the divine beings are simply too dismissive... something like telling someone, "Your divine powers are just like my arcane abilities. Hence, I can kill you."

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Thelonius
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Posted - 10 Jan 2012 :  14:54:13  Show Profile  Click to see Thelonius's MSN Messenger address Send Thelonius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am between imaskar and Netheril, Imaskar were incredibly powerful, but netherese could steal a god power and make cities fly...... But anyways I have far more info about Netheril than about Imaskar, so perhaps I should go for them

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Edited by - Thelonius on 10 Jan 2012 14:55:45
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jazirian reborn
Acolyte

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Posted - 30 Jul 2012 :  07:13:58  Show Profile Send jazirian reborn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I picked an unusual choice of Aryselmar. The emigrated elves of the earliest Crown Wars and the losses in the south to the dark elves led to an empire in the Inner Sea from -11,000 DR to -255 DR when High magic by other elves wiped out a large cross-section of the empire.
Even with the defection of magical leaders to the Dukars , that outstrips almost all others in timeframe of sheer power.
While it could be rightly argued that the Aryselmar were the losers and refugees from the Crown Wars and the Ilythriiri , the elves left in a similar vogue to the retreat to live a more peaceful life.
Both the Imaskar and Netherese retreated from their own homelands after losing out to an avatar of gods (former) or the phaerimm (later).
The Serosians achieved almost entire ownership of all areas inside the Sharksbane wall and without the high magic used to kill off Jhaamdath , might have been the alternate Evermeet.

Netherese colonization was extermined by high magic , and sea elf magic is similar to the roles that both the Creator races AND the Crown Wars played in history , except unlike most human or gold elf empires , the end wasn't self inflicted.
While Seros is a smaller area to rule than the other picks, not angering Corellon to either banish ( dark elves ) or order executions (Vyshaan gold elves) means for me there was enough balance between arcane and divine magic to endure.
The only other comparable elven magic was obliterated by a "falling sky" , and unlike Aryselmar , Uvaeren did end.





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Alystra Illianniis
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Posted - 30 Jul 2012 :  23:40:07  Show Profile  Click to see Alystra Illianniis's MSN Messenger address Send Alystra Illianniis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd like to see more about the early Avariel kingdom(s), Illithiir, Myeritar, and the lythari lands.

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Owesstaer
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Luxembourg
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Posted - 28 Mar 2016 :  16:37:30  Show Profile Send Owesstaer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think the Imasakari are way too overrated! All they did was preventing the prayers to reach otherworldly gods.

Leaves us with Netheril or the elves... not much of a difference in terms of power I'd say, so it would be the way these powers are used that creates the winner. Imo the Wisdom prize goes to the elves, so: Aryvandaar (after all, they nuked the other contestant Miyertar)
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 28 Mar 2016 :  18:24:19  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Owesstaer

I think the Imasakari are way too overrated! All they did was preventing the prayers to reach otherworldly gods.




They didn't stop the prayers, they actually blocked those deities from being able to come to the aid of those praying to them.

The Imaskari didn't just tell the gods where to stick it, they slammed the door in the deities' faces, and the deities in question couldn't do anything about that.

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