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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
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 Posted - 28 Sep 2006 : 19:19:27
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ok, a friend asked me to ask this in Candlekeep, it's a bit of a tongue-in-cheek question   (and you younger players, maybe you should go read another thread  )
Has anyone actually role played a clergy of Sharess (speciality priest, crusader, cleric, favored soul, etc.)?
Have you had a PC in your party that was a priest/priestess of Sharess?
Have you ever DMed a NPC Clegy of Sharess?
Does anyone take the whole Sharess faith/church seriously in their campaigns?
I still can remember the look on my friend's face when he first read the 2E Warriors and Priests of the Realms description of the Crusader and the bard "going to look for a crusader of Sharess"
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Kalin Xorell El'Agrivar
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 28 Sep 2006 : 19:26:26
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I've played a Cleric of Sharess before, online at least. He was one of my favorite characters; he sought basically to make everyone feel as good as possible.
I really don't see why it should be taken as a joke, considering that Sharess's dogmas are rather close to those of some real philosophical schools (one of which is my favorite - Epicureanism).
And, if you think about it, everyone is really already doing whatever makes them feel the best (emotionally, spiritually, physically, or whatnot) in any given situation. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 28 Sep 2006 : 19:27:32
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I'd play a PC of Sharess, if the DM and the PC's would allow it.
I have a PC of Sharess in my email game, the logs are stored here on Keep. However, the PC's and I decided to keep it mostly fade to black or G/PG, except for private logs. :)
I've run NPC's of Sharess all the time and as many here on Keep know, I ask about her and Lliira all the time.
Yes, I take it serious because FR has more relaxed issues with sex/sensuality/etc then most modern places of Earth do. And a lot of people in FR enjoy those types of pleasures. |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 28 Sep 2006 : 19:35:13
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I'v only known one person personally that played a Priestess of Sharess, but it was in her original Bast aspect (she was a cat lover )
I take the faith seriously...I agree that in the Realms they are not as uptight about the faith or their services (no irony or pun intended) so I run the faith of Sharess seriously...
but alot of the PCs I'v DMed...I wouldn't let them take a priest of Sharess...the game would never get anywhere 
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Kalin Xorell El'Agrivar
- High Mage of the Arcane Assembly
- Lore Keeper of the Vault of Ancestors
- 3rd Son of the Lord of the Stand |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2066 Posts |
Posted - 28 Sep 2006 : 20:48:28
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While I have never roleplayed a follower of Sharess, I will claim credit for sneaking the closest thing to an X-rated spell into an official D&D product. ;-)
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 28 Sep 2006 : 20:54:36
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
While I have never roleplayed a follower of Sharess, I will claim credit for sneaking the closest thing to an X-rated spell into an official D&D product. ;-)
--Eric
 what spell was that?  |
Kalin Xorell El'Agrivar
- High Mage of the Arcane Assembly
- Lore Keeper of the Vault of Ancestors
- 3rd Son of the Lord of the Stand |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 28 Sep 2006 : 21:12:32
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Intensify Sensation? 3rd level, I believe?
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Or was it the 7th level one that effectively functioned as a short-term Limited Wish that fulfilled the target's deepest desires? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 02:41:44
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Originally posted by kalin agrivar
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
While I have never roleplayed a follower of Sharess, I will claim credit for sneaking the closest thing to an X-rated spell into an official D&D product. ;-)
--Eric
what spell was that?
I bet you it was a Bigby spell!
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1176 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 12:31:25
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
While I have never roleplayed a follower of Sharess, I will claim credit for sneaking the closest thing to an X-rated spell into an official D&D product. ;-)
--Eric
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2066 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 13:24:06
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Originally posted by GothicDan
Intensify Sensation? 3rd level, I believe?
:D
Or was it the 7th level one that effectively functioned as a short-term Limited Wish that fulfilled the target's deepest desires?
The first one.
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
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Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 14:11:51
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by GothicDan
Intensify Sensation? 3rd level, I believe?
:D
Or was it the 7th level one that effectively functioned as a short-term Limited Wish that fulfilled the target's deepest desires?
The first one.
--Eric
Hmmm...can you prolong the duration through a metamagic feat?
Another business venue for the Red Wizards... a ring of stamina (only works in special circumstances) |
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WalkerNinja
Senior Scribe
USA
573 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 15:50:20
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I've never played a cleric of Sharess per se', but in an old home-brew world that we used to play in, we had a goddess named Desire who is almost identical to Sharess. We were very big on role-playing and were all adults, so all of our characters were played to the hilt. The most interesting part of playing a cleric of Desire was that you had access to virtually free spells. There were spells that you memorized, but certain sexual acts would produce spell-like abilities "free of charge." As I recall, nibling an ear was bless, an extended "french kiss" could slow poison, and oral sex performed for 30 or more rounds provided the effects of a heroe's feast. As I type, I recall many other 'sacred rituals,' but will hold my tongue, unless asked further.
For the record, these sorts of rites were available to other priests as well, but this is a thread about Sharess, not Tempus. Further, these rites were seldom performed on players, if a bit more frequently on characters and NPC's. |
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Halidan
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 15:51:01
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I had an adventuring party of mine encounter an entire band of Sharessian priestesses. They had been kicked out of Zhentil Keep by the Cyricisists when they declared Cyric to be the sole divine patron of the city just before it's destruction.
The Sharessians had no wilderness skills and no idea where they should head to. My PC's came accross them in the wilderness of western Teshendale. The PC's took it upon themselves to guide the priestesses (and their final remaining eunich harem guard) to safety - it was literly like herding cats. :-)
Eventually, the PC's got the priestesses through Daggerdale and down to Tilverton. By that point, they'd had enough and let the Purple Dragons worry about the ladies. It was lots of fun. |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 29 Sep 2006 : 15:52:47
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Originally posted by Halidan
I had an adventuring party of mine encounter an entire band of Sharessian priestesses. They had been kicked out of Zhentil Keep by the Cyricisists when they declared Cyric to be the sole divine patron of the city just before it's destruction.
The Sharessians had no wilderness skills and no idea where they should head to. My PC's came accross them in the wilderness of western Teshendale. The PC's took it upon themselves to guide the priestesses (and their final remaining eunich harem guard) to safety - it was literly like herding cats. :-)
Eventually, the PC's got the priestesses through Daggerdale and down to Tilverton. By that point, they'd had enough and let the Purple Dragons worry about the ladies. It was lots of fun.
that was a really good adventure idea |
Kalin Xorell El'Agrivar
- High Mage of the Arcane Assembly
- Lore Keeper of the Vault of Ancestors
- 3rd Son of the Lord of the Stand |
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Kaewin
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 30 Sep 2006 : 00:55:32
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| I've never played in a cleric of Sharess, but I played in a game where one of the guys was a priest. But everytime he tried to engage a female in an expression of pleasure the dm made a cat wander in his path or climb into his lap. It lost most of the interest for him. But of course it could have gone into real lampoon with my group. |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 30 Sep 2006 : 04:28:48
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I actually had my Cleric use the Intensify Sensation spell, Eric.
Of course, said also Cleric ended up Flamestriking himself in a suicidal fit of rage and grief, ending his career.
Anyway, thank you, Eric. ;) |
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"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Na-Gang
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 10:36:25
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| In the campaign I'm running, one of the PCs has just taken their first level in the Celebrant of Sharess PrC. That levelling-up coincided with the group's return from weeks in a stinking jungle and a Yuan-Ti prison, and one of the first things she did back in civilisation was have her way with a stable boy - that certainly got Sharess' attention. |
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Oct 2006 : 11:58:44
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by GothicDan
Intensify Sensation? 3rd level, I believe?
:D
Or was it the 7th level one that effectively functioned as a short-term Limited Wish that fulfilled the target's deepest desires?
The first one.
--Eric
Hmmm...can you prolong the duration through a metamagic feat?
Another business venue for the Red Wizards... a ring of stamina (only works in special circumstances)
Metamagic: Extend....what? |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 02 Oct 2006 : 17:30:00
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>>Intensify Sensation? 3rd level, I believe?
<<Hmmm...can you prolong the duration through a metamagic feat?
Oh man.... Delay spell... And, of course, only high priests can make it contingent. |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 14 Oct 2006 : 14:44:22
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by GothicDan
Intensify Sensation? 3rd level, I believe?
:D
Or was it the 7th level one that effectively functioned as a short-term Limited Wish that fulfilled the target's deepest desires?
The first one.
--Eric
Hmmm...can you prolong the duration through a metamagic feat?
Another business venue for the Red Wizards... a ring of stamina (only works in special circumstances)
Metamagic: Extend....what?
Do you reallt need an explanation? |
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Lady Kazandra
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 14 Oct 2006 : 15:29:31
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
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Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
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Originally posted by GothicDan
Intensify Sensation? 3rd level, I believe?
:D
Or was it the 7th level one that effectively functioned as a short-term Limited Wish that fulfilled the target's deepest desires?
The first one.
--Eric
Hmmm...can you prolong the duration through a metamagic feat?
Another business venue for the Red Wizards... a ring of stamina (only works in special circumstances)
Metamagic: Extend....what?
Actually, wasn't this type of spell covered in the unofficial third-party "sex sourcebook for RPGs"?
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Torkael
Acolyte
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Posted - 14 Oct 2006 : 18:15:46
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Originally posted by Lady Kazandra
Actually, wasn't this type of spell covered in the unofficial third-party "sex sourcebook for RPGs"?
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I'm going to regret this, but which one? |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 14 Oct 2006 : 19:01:17
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Originally posted by The Sage
How did you even read that? I never saw it, I thought it was just a myth...
I've read that book it's a waste of money. You'd never imagine how some spells can be used. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 14 Oct 2006 : 19:15:28
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If you are talking about the Book of Erotic Fantasy, it's really not as bad as the comments about it said it was. I have a copy and I've made use of some of the material within it, more then once.
The breeding/offspring chapter is pretty good and sometimes the sexual diseases could be interesting plot hooks when you got someone like Talona running around. Of course, so are the ideas for the sexual items, etc.
Shrug. I say bravo for them having the guts to write a sourcebook dealing with sex/sensuality/pleasure. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Marc
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 14 Oct 2006 : 19:28:14
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| Maybe for you, but for my PCs it would be an evening of uncontrollable laughter |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Oct 2006 : 19:38:11
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Originally posted by Maruluthu Mistrivvin
Maybe for you, but for my PCs it would be an evening of uncontrollable laughter
Well, I was specifically talking to you, which is why I made a general post. However, this always depends on how the DM uses such info. I don't see why there would be uncontrollable laughter when discussing how long some races are pregnate (which that book has a nice interesting chapter on), or that some festhalls have rumors of a sexual disease that has shut it down or is spreading through the races, or some of the races, that have visited there, etc.
But if that is how your players react, then so be it. However, FR is a very sexual active world and so some of the material is very useful. Ever the FRCS has contraceptives, which are also detailed in the 3rd party book. And on the other side of the coin, it's nice to see some aphrodisiacs to go with the contraceptives. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Marc
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 14 Oct 2006 : 19:46:44
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| I agree, though to my PCs (not all of them) stuff from the book (also not all, there are some useful things) would be like adding ''gasoline on fire'' (I'm not sure if that's appropriate phrase). But that's an internal problem. |
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Torkael
Acolyte
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Posted - 14 Oct 2006 : 20:03:57
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Originally posted by Kuje
If you are talking about the Book of Erotic Fantasy, it's really not as bad as the comments about it said it was. I have a copy and I've made use of some of the material within it, more then once.
The breeding/offspring chapter is pretty good and sometimes the sexual diseases could be interesting plot hooks when you got someone like Talona running around. Of course, so are the ideas for the sexual items, etc.
Shrug. I say bravo for them having the guts to write a sourcebook dealing with sex/sensuality/pleasure.
There is also that Nymphology 'sourcebook'...similiar to the BoEF in some ways but focuses on the arcane. |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 14 Oct 2006 : 20:05:27
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| Also to add to this I'd rather avoid telling to PCs that (for example) dwarves are provided a manual of sex positions when they are young, that all elves are bisexual (I'm not trying to offend anyone), that gnomes like toys, that amongst halflings homosexuality is fairly common and sex between relatives (disgusting) that ogre mages are sadomasochists and about necrophilia (undead) thing. So I think that the book shouldn't contained such things, others you've mentioned are quite useful. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Oct 2006 : 20:15:22
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Originally posted by Torkael
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Originally posted by Kuje
If you are talking about the Book of Erotic Fantasy, it's really not as bad as the comments about it said it was. I have a copy and I've made use of some of the material within it, more then once.
The breeding/offspring chapter is pretty good and sometimes the sexual diseases could be interesting plot hooks when you got someone like Talona running around. Of course, so are the ideas for the sexual items, etc.
Shrug. I say bravo for them having the guts to write a sourcebook dealing with sex/sensuality/pleasure.
There is also that Nymphology 'sourcebook'...similiar to the BoEF in some ways but focuses on the arcane.
Nymphology was a bit juvenile for my tastes, but it was meant to be that way so that's fine. It was more tongue-in-cheek then the BoEF. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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The Steamier Side of the Realms (PG-13)
