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Kuje
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 Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 06:53:46
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The Sacred Order of Akabar, a cult in Calimport that worships Dender the Night Serpent.
That's pretty mental. :)
And then there's the Spearbearers of Ubtao in Chult who try to stop her from destroying the world.
Acolyates of the Hidden Flame, a cult of Bazim-Gorag.
All of these are in Champions of Ruin. Yeah, everyone can tell what sourcebook I'm reading. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 08:10:26
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Oh yeah,
Force Grey/Grey Hands of Waterdeep, depending on which source you want to use since they have been renamed in current material. :) Me, I prefer the old name. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 09:23:52
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As did I. And it's what I still use...
Eric also provided us with WotC reasoning behind the name change --
"WoTC decided that Force Grey felt inappropriate as a group name in the Realms and that Gray Hands was a more appropriate.
My bias is always towards consistency (to a fault), but if I was starting from scratch I would have definitely picked "Gray Hands."
--Eric"
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 09:59:52
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Red Cloak Riders - as far as I know that's the organized militia of Asbrawn, a town located north of Iriabor in the Western Heartlands, close to the Sunset Mountains.
(Don't have my books at hand so please excuse possible minor errors in the location) |
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Drakul
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The Sage
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Australia
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
2296 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 13:41:48
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Malaugrym, in case they haven't been mentioned.
I'd prolly just repeat others and I'm not going to make a checklist now, so I won't dig through Cloak and Dagger now |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 13:46:34
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Here is what the Preliminary list looks like. Please keep suggesting popular orginizations and advice on how best to compile the list. 
Good Aligned Power Groups:
Harpers
Lords Alliance
Witches of Rashemen
Moonstars
War Wizards
Purple Dragons
Triadic Knighthood
Lords of Waterdeep
Hathran
Riders of Mistledale
Eternal Srinalla
Riders of Nesmè
Knights of Silverymoon
The Seven Sisters
Spearbearers of Ubtao
Force Grey/Grey Hands
Olin Gisae
Evil Aligned Power Groups:
Zhentarim
Red Wizards of Thay
Cult of the Dragon
Twisted Rune
Knights of the Shield
Shadovar
Malaugrym
The Shade
Arcane Brotherhood
Eldreth Veluuthra
The Night Masks
Fey'ri
Kraken Society
House Jaelre
Jaezred Chaulssin
Acolyates of the Hidden Flame, a cult of Bazim-Gorag
People of the Black Blood
Mage Guilds:
The Mage Society
Northern Wizards
Brotherhood of the Cloaks (Cloaks of Mulmaster)
Stared Cloak guild
The Cowled Wizards of Amn
The Sacred Order of Akabar
Miscellaneous (worth mentioning):
Heralds
Covenant
Sea Ravens
Knights of Myth Drannor
Gutbuster Brigade
Naturalists in Cormyr
Naturalists of Myth Drannor
Holy/Unholy Orders:
Emerald Enclave
Monks of the Long Death
Monks of the Dark Moon
Order of the Sun Soul
Watchful Order
The Lords of the Tempest
Order of the Black Flame
Thieves Guilds:
Shadow Thieves
Fire Knives
Xanathar Thieves Guild
Shadowmasters of Telflamm
Mercenary Company:
Bregan D'aerthe
Where would these Orgginizations go:
The Iron Throne
House Karanok
The Kir-lanans
Mind Flayers
The Rundeen
Aurora's Emporium
Men of the Basilisk
Iron Ring
Unworthy of Ilsenine
Ba'etith
Cryptkey Facilitations
The Kaliesh'rai
Stray Thoughts
Forak-Erach-Naek
The Cave of Twelve Teeth
The College of Eclipse
The Hall of Mental Splendor
Circle of Rust
Red Cloak Riders
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
Germany
2296 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 14:39:51
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Flames of the Dark Sun
House Dlardregeth, the daemonfey/fey'ri aren't an organization, House Dlardregeth is
Night Parade
The Unseen
As for Hathran...I am not sure that they could be counted as a group since Rashemen is rather unorganized and the Hathran witches gather in covens and are not directly linked.
House Jordain of Halruaa is an organization in a way.
I'll look into merc groups later on. |
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Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 15:24:42
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Originally posted by The Sage
have already been referenced.
The Riders haven't, though.
actually thats what i was referring to when i said "red something or other in sunset vale"
but since thats essentially unintelligible he gets the pts.
and you can categorize them as a military organization... but they mostly just function as an anti darkhold group. |
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Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 15:29:44
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wandering mage, you can label the ba'etith as mage guild.
you can label iron throne as merchant or mercenary depending on how you feel
you forgot to include mages-regal i was talking about before. they are a mage organization. |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
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956 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 15:31:50
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quote:
Originally posted by Wandering_mage
Here is what the Preliminary list looks like. Please keep suggesting popular orginizations and advice on how best to compile the list.
Here is how I would organize and list the groups you have listed so far....also notice that some groups can fill multiple positions....the colored names at the end are the ones I can’t remember off hand...
For some groups, like political, military or mercantile the morality of good/neutral/evil shouldn’t be applied IMO...when a group is “moral” it is making an effort to be moral (i.e. a neutral group does not usually accept strongly good or evil beings)...
also not that racial groups are usually inclusive to one race (like the Malaugrym) and aren’t really an “organization”...if so then “the orcs” and “the elves”would be listed as racial organizations
Good (General) Power Groups
Harpers
Moonstars
Lords Alliance
Witches of Rashemen / Hathran
Force Grey/Grey Hands
Northern Wizards / Wizards of the North
Evil (General) Power Groups
The Zhentarim
Red Wizards of Thay
Cult of the Dragon
Twisted Rune
Knights of the Shield
Arcane Brotherhood of Luskan
Eldreth Veluuthra
The Night Masks
Kraken Society
Brotherhood of the Cloaks (Cloaks of Mulmaster)
Shadowmasters of Telflamm
Shadow Thieves
Fire Knives
Xanathar Thieves Guild
Bregan D'aerthe
The Iron Throne
House Karanok
The Rundeen
Iron Ring
Neutral (General) Power Groups
Heralds
The Naturalists
Aurora's Emporium
Men of the Basilisk
Political Power Groups
Lords Alliance
Witches of Rashemen / Hathran
War Wizards of Cormyr
Lords of Waterdeep
Red Wizards of Thay
Shadovar / Shade
Arcane Brotherhood of Luskan
The Cowled Wizards of Amn
Brotherhood of the Cloaks (Cloaks of Mulmaster)
Shadowmasters of Telflamm
Shadow Thieves
House Karanok
Mercantile Power Groups
The Zhentarim
Knights of the Shield
The Iron Throne
The Rundeen
Aurora's Emporium
Men of the Basilisk
Iron Ring
Cryptkey Facilitations
Mercenary/Military Power Groups
War Wizards of Cormyr
The Purple Dragons (of Cormyr)
Riders of Mistledale
Riders of Nesmè
Knights of Silverymoon
Spearbearers of Ubtao
Sea Ravens
Bregan D'aerthe
Unworthy of Ilsenine
Red Cloak Riders of Elturil (sp?)
Good (Holy) Power Groups
Triadic Knighthood
Evil (Unholy) Power Groups
Cult of the Dragon
Acolyates of the Hidden Flame, a cult of Bazim-Gorag
Monks of the Long Death
Monks of the Dark Moon
Order of the Black Flame
Shadowmasters of Telflamm
House Karanok
Neutral (Holy) Power Groups
Emerald Enclave
Good (Racial) Power Groups
The Seven Sisters
Olin Gisae
Gutbuster Brigade
Order of the Sun Soul
Evil (Racial) Power Groups
Shadovar / Shade
Malaugrym
Eldreth Veluuthra
House Dlardregeth / Fey'ri
House Jaelre
Jaezred Chaulssin
People of the Black Blood
The Kir-lanans
Mind Flayers
Unworthy of Ilsenine
Adventuring Groups:
Knights of Myth Drannor
Eternal Srinalla
The Mage Society
Stared Cloak guild
The Sacred Order of Akabar
Covenant
Watchful Order
The Lords of the Tempest
Ba'etith
The Kaliesh'rai
Stray Thoughts
Forak-Erach-Naek
The Cave of Twelve Teeth
The College of Eclipse
The Hall of Mental Splendor
Circle of Rust
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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 17:18:42
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Kalin, your work and opinion are very much appreciated! Now if we can only categorize the last few groups at the bottom of the list. I would say we have a decent representation. Not perfect or complete in anyway but enough for my purposes and maybe others too.  |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 17:29:47
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Oh yeah,
Thought of two more this morn.
Flaming Fist mercenary company of Baldur's Gate. The strongest merc company in the Realms
The Grey Cowled Wizards of Amn.
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Edited by - Kuje on 25 Sep 2006 17:31:34 |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
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956 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 17:33:43
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quote:
Originally posted by Wandering_mage
Kalin, your work and opinion are very much appreciated! Now if we can only categorize the last few groups at the bottom of the list. I would say we have a decent representation. Not perfect or complete in anyway but enough for my purposes and maybe others too.
those names in red, I don't recognize or don't remember easily, I would have to look them up |
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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 17:37:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje
Oh yeah,
Thought of two more this morn.
Flaming Fist mercenary company of Baldur's Gate. The strongest merc company in the Realms
The Grey Cowled Wizards of Amn.
Also, the Night Parade.
I thought of the Flaming Fist too...
basically every group named in Gold and Glory would have to be named...and then Cloak and Dagger..then the three 2E "gods books" for religious organizations...afterwords go to every product that has a "friends/foe" section...The old 1E "Gray Box" listed a few adventuring groups...I remember some in the 2E box set Ruins of Myth Drannor too..
that should cover most of the groups |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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7915 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 17:47:41
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All the groups from C&D and Lords of Darkness have been named already. :) I double checked them with Wander's list yesterday, which is why I added the ones he forgot.
However, there's many other groups that are mentioned in many sources besides C&D, the deity trilogy, Lords of Darkness, or the 1e/2e campaign box sets. |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 20:49:39
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| If we can place the red highlighted groups and add a few more popular groups, that would be the start of a list that could grow with time. :) |
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Mkhaiwati
Learned Scribe
USA
252 Posts |
Posted - 25 Sep 2006 : 22:37:16
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Champions of Valor has multiple groups within, mostly knightly and monk orders. I also remember the Silver Talons ? that are headed by a dragon, the steelclaws ? that uncivilized order that keep a watch on evil in uncivilized areas and include Wemics and Centaurs, and from the Dragons of Faerun there was a group of half-dragons and such in Essembria. (I am away from my books but only have access to one file from my campaign.)
Another I don't see are the Red Ravens, the mercenary group, based in Arabel.
Also, would you include the Silver Ravens from Sembia?
Old Empires mentions a few, I remember a merc group actively working with the Pharoah that I think he was a wee bit smitten with the leader.
Just from my listing of power groups in my Cormyr campaign I have (that I don't see already listed): Guardians of the Weave, Knights of the Weave, Knightswood Nine Druidic Circle, Alliance of Freesailors, Knights of the Eternal Order, Knights of the Mystic Flame, Order of the Aster, Order of the Red Falcon, Swords of the Lady, Zealots of the Written Word, Vigilant Eyes of the God, Knights of the Merciful Sword, Order of the Golden Lion, Sisters and Brothers of the Ruby Rose, Cultists of the Shattered Peaks, Magelords, and Sunmasters. You already have the baddies listed, not that these can't also be naughty sometimes.
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Drakul
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Sep 2006 : 07:58:52
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One of the merc companies from Gold & Glory, and I kid you not:
- Clan Hammerhand
dwarven mercenary clan |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Sep 2006 : 08:07:43
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| Also, Durnan's Red Sashes, which also operate in Waterdeep. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 26 Sep 2006 : 08:20:39
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| Oh yes, The Red Sashes! One of the best, IMO. Great thinking, Kuje! |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Sep 2006 : 11:19:26
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quote:
Originally posted by Mace Hammerhand
One of the merc companies from Gold & Glory, and I kid you not:
- Clan Hammerhand
dwarven mercenary clan
What a silly name!    |
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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 26 Sep 2006 : 12:38:37
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| How could I forget the Red Sashes!? Consider the Hammerhand clan added for Mercenary groups. :) |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Sep 2006 : 16:40:38
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Also, :)
The Ranger's Three.
And I saw that you had the Hathren's but you didn't mention their evil counterparts or the male organization that makes the magical items. |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Sep 2006 : 17:04:04
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Mercenary Companies from Gold & Glory:
Blacktalons
Bloodaxe
Company of the Singing Dawn
Flaming Fist
Golden Legion
Llandrydd's Steel
Mindulgulph
Red Raven
Renegades
Sailors of the Crimson Sea
Society of the Sword
Veterans' Guild of Raven's Bluff
Non-Human Companies:
Blue Sigil
Chill
Clann Hammerhand (go team!)
Claw
Red Thunder Mercenary Corps
Servants of the Royal Egg
Shard
Shieldbreakers
Silent Rain
Teeth
Regional Companies:
Anaconda
Bushido
Jaguar Guard
Realmspace Companies:
Code Helm
Emerald Brotherhood
Enforcers
Gauntlet
She-Wolves
Sirocco
Specialists:
Company of Hunnar
Dark Watch
Destroyers
Masquerade
Order of the Silver Lance
Sisterhood of the Oaks
Windriders
Wraith of the Inner Sea
Zahara's Krakens
Retired Companies:
Company of the Wolf
Gray Doom
Clan Obarskyr
Iron Legion
Midnight Men
Moonlight Men
Red Plumes of Hillsfar
Shining Steel Mercenary Company
Skykillers
There you have 'em ... enjoy ;) |
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Wandering_mage
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Posted - 27 Sep 2006 : 19:38:21
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Thank you so much for the research Mace! This will be a great addition to the list.  |
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Mace Hammerhand
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Sep 2006 : 20:28:19
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Just took Gold & Glory and skimmed through it...
Being an obsessive compulsive collector does have some advantages, all of them not monetary  |
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I need a list of the organizations in the Realms
