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sparhawk42
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Posted - 23 Sep 2006 :  23:00:20  Show Profile  Visit sparhawk42's Homepage Send sparhawk42 a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I am a bit confused about the Twin Towers of the Eternal Eclipse. In the Lands of Intrigue I read that they are
"Situated deep within the highest peaks of the Small Teeth . . ."
and a map I have places them their as well but when I check the map that comes with the FRCS there are two marks that are labeled as The Twin Towers in the Cloud Peaks. But in the FRCS section for the Small Teeth it says the towers are there. Where are the Twin Towers really? And if they are really in the Cloud Peaks why did they move them in the first place? Or is it just a misprint on the map? Thank you for any help.

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Kuje
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Posted - 23 Sep 2006 :  23:35:26  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The should be in the Small Teeth. However, one of them is no longer there. Read Paul Kemp's Erevis Cale trilogy. :)

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sparhawk42
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Posted - 23 Sep 2006 :  23:43:00  Show Profile  Visit sparhawk42's Homepage Send sparhawk42 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you Kuje for the answer and the info about one of them being gone, unfortunately I am way behind in my novel reading and am currently trying to catch up and haven't read Paul Kemp's Erevis Cale trilogy yet. Do you or anyone else know why the map had the Twin Towers in the Cloud Peaks? Is there a different pair of towers in the Cloud Peaks?

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Kuje
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 :  00:58:02  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Don't recall, sorry. :)

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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 :  01:13:54  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sparhawk42

Thank you Kuje for the answer and the info about one of them being gone, unfortunately I am way behind in my novel reading and am currently trying to catch up and haven't read Paul Kemp's Erevis Cale trilogy yet. Do you or anyone else know why the map had the Twin Towers in the Cloud Peaks? Is there a different pair of towers in the Cloud Peaks?

The Twin Towers of the Eternal Eclipse are located within the peaks of Small Teeth -- as stated in Lands of Intrigue.

The Twin Towers in the Cloud Peaks are not the same location. There are no Twin Towers in the Cloud Peaks; the FRCS is in error. This has now largely been confirmed in both Power of Faerūn and Dragons of Faerūn which provides some focus on the Towers.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 :  01:23:02  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

The should be in the Small Teeth. However, one of them is no longer there. Read Paul Kemp's Erevis Cale trilogy. :)



Didnt they replace the missing one in Dragons of Faerun?

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Kuje
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 :  01:43:25  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

The should be in the Small Teeth. However, one of them is no longer there. Read Paul Kemp's Erevis Cale trilogy. :)



Didnt they replace the missing one in Dragons of Faerun?



Not sure. :) I didn't read my copy yet from cover to cover.

Yes, I'm behind on my sourcebook lore. GASP!

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The Sage
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 :  01:44:37  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

The should be in the Small Teeth. However, one of them is no longer there. Read Paul Kemp's Erevis Cale trilogy. :)



Didnt they replace the missing one in Dragons of Faerun?

Indeed.

As I recall, it was largely part of the continuity problem due to the concurrent development of PoF and Paul's Midnight's Mask novel. Eric said that both George and Paul helped to determine an explanation that he could manage to work into DoF. Eric's details in DoF reconcile the apparent contradiction that exists between Power of Faerun and Paul's novel.

More from Eric -

"Actually three things happened to the Twin Towers. Two things happened to one tower (Midnight's Mask and Power of Faerun) and one thing happened to the other (to be revealed).

The explanation of the chain of events (and the 3rd event) appears in an upcoming product.

If you're gaming in 1374, assume the starting situation is as defined in Power of Faerun and ends as defined in Power of Faerun.

--Eric"

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sparhawk42
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 :  02:10:37  Show Profile  Visit sparhawk42's Homepage Send sparhawk42 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you to everyone for the help in clearing this up for me.

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Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 :  07:43:44  Show Profile  Visit Beirnadri Magranth's Homepage Send Beirnadri Magranth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i think this was all discussed in a thread a year or half a year ago im not sure

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Ergdusch
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Posted - 24 Sep 2006 :  13:03:55  Show Profile Send Ergdusch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Can somebody give me the exact page number for details on the twin towers (especially in PoF).

Thanks, Ergdusch

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sparhawk42
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Posted - 25 Sep 2006 :  01:26:11  Show Profile  Visit sparhawk42's Homepage Send sparhawk42 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To Beirnadri Magranth:
I did try a search about the twin towers here at candlekeep but I didn't find a thread that answered my question. If you know where that thread is and can point it out for me that would be great.

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Returnip
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Posted - 26 Dec 2020 :  17:55:53  Show Profile Send Returnip a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

More from Eric -

"Actually three things happened to the Twin Towers. Two things happened to one tower (Midnight's Mask and Power of Faerun) and one thing happened to the other (to be revealed).

The explanation of the chain of events (and the 3rd event) appears in an upcoming product.

If you're gaming in 1374, assume the starting situation is as defined in Power of Faerun and ends as defined in Power of Faerun.

--Eric"




quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch

Can somebody give me the exact page number for details on the twin towers (especially in PoF).

Thanks, Ergdusch



I'm interested in a page reference too. I can't seem to find anything on the Twin Towers in Power of Faerūn.

On the other hand you have different fingers.
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Demzer
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Posted - 27 Dec 2020 :  17:41:30  Show Profile Send Demzer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Returnip

quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch

Can somebody give me the exact page number for details on the twin towers (especially in PoF).

Thanks, Ergdusch



I'm interested in a page reference too. I can't seem to find anything on the Twin Towers in Power of Faerūn.



Pages 41-43, scattered throughout the text and the timeline of the Sothillisian Empire example.
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Returnip
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Posted - 27 Dec 2020 :  20:50:58  Show Profile Send Returnip a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Demzer

quote:
Originally posted by Returnip

quote:
Originally posted by Ergdusch

Can somebody give me the exact page number for details on the twin towers (especially in PoF).

Thanks, Ergdusch



I'm interested in a page reference too. I can't seem to find anything on the Twin Towers in Power of Faerūn.



Pages 41-43, scattered throughout the text and the timeline of the Sothillisian Empire example.



Glorious. Thanks for that. I was planning on incorporating the towers as written in Lords of Darkness into a campaign I'm planning, but since I like making my campaigns dance around and between canon lore this is relevant to my interests.

On the other hand you have different fingers.
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