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Well met

This is a Book Club thread for Blackstaff(Book 1 of The Wizards series), by Steven Schend. Please discuss chapters 18 - 27 herein.

Steven Schend will be here to answer any questions and respond to comments

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Hm . . . Maskar says something interesting on page 169 . . . "fully restoring Myth Drannor?" Obviously word has gotten to Waterdeep about what happened in Myth Drannor in Final Gate . . . Its good to see the continuity here, even if the comment is easy to miss.

With everything else going on, I have to say that I like Tsarra and Raegar, and I'm amazed that enough of them has come through in this book so far for me to actually care about them.

Okay, a question. Obviously we get the idea that Sharn are kind of like composite creatures of fallen societies that sort of fuse together to survive and preserve what might be lost from their societies (I hope I am close here). What I am wondering is if all Sharn are from the events in chapter twenty, or if there were other societies that preserved themselves by turning into sharn?

I really liked Raegar's flirting and verbal dueling with both Laeral and Tsarra once they have him back in Blackstaff Tower.

I loved the "who's who" of wizards in chapter twenty four. I would love to see Malchor and Nain show up more often in Realms novels. I can remember reading about them way back when I first got FR1 Waterdeep and the North. On top of that Maaril has always captured my attention. I like how we got some pretty quick sketches of their personalities without the characters coming across as two dimensional.

Of course, there is continuity, and there is continuity . . . personally I always liked the name "Force Grey" better myself anyway . . .

One way or the other, its great to see some members of that group show up in the novel.

The Frostrune certainly knows how to make himself a pain in the backside. Earlier in the book I was wondering who the villain of this piece would be, and somehow it feel fitting that someone like him should play the part of the BBEG.

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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

With everything else going on, I have to say that I like Tsarra and Raegar, and I'm amazed that enough of them has come through in this book so far for me to actually care about them.




I agree. I am very fond of both characters. I must say that I would be very interested to read more about the work that Raegar does in the service of Oghma. A bit of shady secrecy with good intent.

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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  23:37:23  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Hm . . . Maskar says something interesting on page 169 . . . "fully restoring Myth Drannor?"



You call it interesting. I call it...yuck.

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I kind of like it, because it shows that there's a lot more to restoring the dream of the City of Song then just tossing a bunch of Fey'ri out of residence.

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Originally posted by GothicDan

I kind of like it, because it shows that there's a lot more to restoring the dream of the City of Song then just tossing a bunch of Fey'ri out of residence.



Upon further thought, seeing that entire quote from page 169 (not just the last four words) would be helpful.

The Last Mythal trilogy rubbed me the wrong way...not just because of the premise, but because of the actual prose as well. So seeing it pop up in this (wonderful) novel isn't going to have me jumping for joy.

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KnightErrantJR
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But, to be fair, if author that someone "likes" over other authors selectively exclude Realmslore, then how can we argue that authors that don't follow Realmslore are at fault for not keeping up on current events? Applying rules equally is really the only way to make sure there is a level playing field . . . not to mention, being a veteran of the shared world reading experience that is comic book land, there have been a few authors that are considered "greats" that decided they were too important follow changes more "mundane" authors wrote, and they end up screwing up continuity and the feel of the book more than if they had just worked with the events and the changes as presented. If its a shared world, it does have to be shared to work. At least thats how I see it.

As for context, Khelben had just told Maskar that he was needed, the symbol of Mystra showed up, and then Maskar says, "Very well, what's the task--fully restoring Myth Drannor?" to which Khelben replies, "No, though a few worthies of that realm may join us for the working. No, 'tis something older still."

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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

But, to be fair, if author that someone "likes" over other authors selectively exclude Realmslore, then how can we argue that authors that don't follow Realmslore are at fault for not keeping up on current events?


I'm not arguing that anyone should exclude Realmslore. As I've said before, I'm here simply to give my opinion...even if, in truth, it amounts to less than a hill of beans in the greater picture. If my opinion is as unsubtle and emotional as "yuck", that's what it is.

quote:
As for context, Khelben had just told Maskar that he was needed, the symbol of Mystra showed up, and then Maskar says, "Very well, what's the task--fully restoring Myth Drannor?" to which Khelben replies, "No, though a few worthies of that realm may join us for the working. No, 'tis something older still."



Hmm, maybe I should refrain from commenting until I get to that part, all right?

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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 19 Jul 2006 :  02:43:31  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm sorry, I thought you had read it. Appologies if I messed anything up for you.

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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

I'm sorry, I thought you had read it. Appologies if I messed anything up for you.



No, it didn't...I asked for you to clarify, and I appreciate it. I just think maybe *I* commented too soon.

And yes, I'm "cheating" a little by even being here...but so what?

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Mr Schend has done a wonderful job of including a great deal of realmslore throughout this tale. I don't own source books or the campaign setting as I only read the novels so it was nice to get this much lore and detail from a novel, I can only imagine what he can do with a trilogy!
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This book has been an excellent addition to my library. The interesting, yet brief, introductions of so many Realms luminaries has been a lot of fun to read. I have often wondered why so many interesting characters found in sourcebooks rarely, if ever, recieve any attention in novels.

Mr. Schend, I am on chapter 37 and enjoying pretty much every minute.

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Recently I asked Steven Schend about some sayings in the book, and he graciously gave me answers. It has also been remarked I should share with others:

quote:
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Page 189, the Pentad say to Khelben, "We all take Oacenth's Vow and Dragmar's Promise to heart." I can figure out Oacenth's Vow, but Dragmar's Promise?



Just like Oacenth, I figured I could easily slide in a dwarven leader's name who'd vowed to find ways to work together with the other races as well. Only thing else we know about Dragmar is that he was a high priest of Dumathoin and probably a leader in a long dead dwarven civilization between the times of Miyeritar and -300 DR.


There we go, another mystery created and solved!

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By this point in the novel, I'm reluctant to read too quickly, as I want to savor these pages before turning them.

The Realmslore, the tour of Waterdeep, the use of classics like sharn, phaerimm, Semmemon, the Wands family, the references to dozens of other Realms novels, the very mention of Eltargrim... I am loving this novel. I agree with others who've said this is a must-read for Realms fans.

The plot is unfolding in a way that I've never seen in an FR book (with the possible exception of certain Greenwood and Cunningham novels). The most delightful aspect of the plot is just as I'm saying to myself, "What's happening here?" one of the characters asks the same question a couple paragraphs later, and that's an awesome union of character and reader. It happens over and over, and I love it.

The flow of the reading is also very high-brow. This is one of the few FR novels that I feel is written toward an older audience, an audience who will appreciate both the extensive Realmslore and the style of writing itself, rather than any kewl action that almost quotes rulebooks.

The flow of events can be a tad confusing at times, but like I said above, the characters are often just as confused as the reader, and that's a very compelling thing to experience while reading.

I dare say Blackstaff is literature.

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quote:
Originally posted by Crust


The flow of the reading is also very high-brow. This is one of the few FR novels that I feel is written toward an older audience, an audience who will appreciate both the extensive Realmslore and the style of writing itself, rather than any kewl action that almost quotes rulebooks.


I totally agree with that.

quote:
The flow of events can be a tad confusing at times, but like I said above, the characters are often just as confused as the reader, and that's a very compelling thing to experience while reading.



This, I don't agree with quite as enthusiastically. There really are times when the writing just isn't very clear, and that can't simply be written off as style (IMO). That being said, the book improves in this respect towards the end.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Steven Schend
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Posted - 22 Aug 2006 :  03:04:15  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Okay, a question. Obviously we get the idea that Sharn are kind of like composite creatures of fallen societies that sort of fuse together to survive and preserve what might be lost from their societies (I hope I am close here). What I am wondering is if all Sharn are from the events in chapter twenty, or if there were other societies that preserved themselves by turning into sharn?



Realized I'd never answered this comment/question....my bad.

The sharn were made of composite survivors and/or willing entrants who sacrificed their lives and knowledge to join the collective sharn. (Strange that a few years AFTER Ed, Eric, and I had discussed the sharn as one big collective underdark LAKE of sharnstuff that splintered off pieces to make individual sharn, Star Trek DS9 had the same idea for the Founders/shapeshifters.)

No, not all the sharn came from the events in Chapter 20, though every living being in that Pentad enclave became sharn. The original sharn were the lorelords and such of Miyeritar--the 3 High Mages and the 80 that entered the storms as noted in a few places in the timelines. They took in a few other survivors who didn't get mentioned in elven histories, like the guards and scouts of Miyeritar--the centaurs.

Over time, I figure there's been a few who've been offered salvation from certain death by joining the sharn, and a few folk of Uvaeren, Eaerlann, Ascalhorn, and many many other realms joined the collective.

Thus, Rhymanthiin is going to be a hotbed of historical knowledge as there are now living denizens of many lost realms who can correct or compile information on places that have little (or perhaps have even been forgotten) detail.

Does this help clarify things, Knight? Or just add more questions, as any good designer does?

Steven
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Hello-

Well - its a month and a half after the last comment here.

I think I know why.

After I finished chapter 27 - I just HAD to keep reading. It did not help that I was at work -a nd had 1/2 my lunch break left - with no access to the internet to pop on and read through this.

So - I kept reading to the end. :)

And Thats why I beleive that this thread is less-posted in than others.

Next stop - the last thread!

Thanks again for a wonderful read!

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Steven Schend
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quote:
Originally posted by Dhomal

Hello-

Well - its a month and a half after the last comment here.

I think I know why.

After I finished chapter 27 - I just HAD to keep reading. It did not help that I was at work -a nd had 1/2 my lunch break left - with no access to the internet to pop on and read through this.

So - I kept reading to the end. :)

And Thats why I beleive that this thread is less-posted in than others.

Next stop - the last thread!

Thanks again for a wonderful read!

Dhomal



Thanks, both for stopping by and adding the nice comments. Glad the book pulled you along; now I'll have to swing by and see what your final thoughts were.

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I have a few questions: Were some of the sharn Netherese? If not, why did they fight the phaerimm? And why would the Pentad transform survivors of lore hubs into such strange creatures as the sharn (as opposed to angelic beings or Chosen)? What does fhaorn'quessir translate to? Is Khelben truly dead? After reading Elminster in Hell and this book, I am very curious about who Halaster Blackcloak truly is. And lastly, what the heck is an otyugh?

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Otyugh, you can find it in MM, truly a hideus creature

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Posted - 29 Nov 2006 :  16:15:00  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Galaeron Nihmedu

I have a few questions: Were some of the sharn Netherese? If not, why did they fight the phaerimm?


It's inherently possible that some of the sharn could have been Netherese, just as they could have been refugees or survivors of any civilization that had a precipitous or sudden fall (i.e. Uvaeren, Ammarindar, villages stomped by the Black Hordes, etc.).

As for why they fought the phaerimm, one of the sharns' hidden purposes at all times (and even now with those left) was to prevent abuses of magic and fight against corruptions on the Weave. As much of what the Phaerimm have done fall under those descriptions, they made themselves the sharns' enemies. (Case in point--we don't necessarily always hear all the news of what goes on in Thay, but I'd suspect that there are always sharn working against some of the worst abuses of magic therein...)

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And why would the Pentad transform survivors of lore hubs into such strange creatures as the sharn (as opposed to angelic beings or Chosen)?


Because they were either approached by the sharn themselves or inspired by Miyeritar or Uvaeren and their studies drew them to that conclusion/secret.

I'm loathe to say more, as I've got some stories and articles in mind to flesh all this out, some of which must remain NDA. Suffice it to say that the five faiths of the Pentad did not come together without reason or purpose...so what their faithful did has meaning. I just can't discuss what that meaning is at present.

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What does fhaorn'quessir translate to?


Didn't I translate that over in my folder somewheres? I'll have to double-check my notes on that and get back to you. One thing to note--This is NOT a common name for the sharn, but it's one ONLY known among the Pentad's elven worshipers. If memory serves correctly, it's loosely transltated as "changed/altered Person" and acknowledges that there are elves within the sharn.

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Is Khelben truly dead?


Yes, I'm afraid so. He's earned his peace after 960 years, don't you think?

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After reading Elminster in Hell and this book, I am very curious about who Halaster Blackcloak truly is.


Then Ed's and my work is done here. I've enjoyed scattering hints and nibbles about Halaster into everything I've done in the Realms. It's one of the biggest scavenger hunts of lore out there--just ask George, and he'll confirm the only thing worse is sussing out the true history of The North.

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And lastly, what the heck is an otyugh?


A scavenging garbage- and offal-eater that's been a D&D staple monster for decades. Look to your Monster Manual.

Hope these answers helped, Galaeron.

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I still love all this Sharn talk! Steven, you really know how to put a twist on a story. I'll say it again. Great book! :)

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Galaeron Nihmedu
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Thanks, Mr. Schend. I still have more questions, though, if you don't mind. Do sharn usually have three heads and two main arms per body, and does the number of heads they have equal the number of souls they have sharing that body? (I know they share a group mind, but I'm not sure if they share individual bodies except for the big sharn comprising the three grand mages of Miyeritar.) I also notice in the book that the high magic city that the story revolves around is referred to as both Rhymanthiin and Faer'tel'miir. Is Faer'tel'miir the old name and Rhymanthiin the new? And the Three Watchers—the three grand mages of Rhymanthiin named T'karon, Hamra, and Alunor—are they the leaders of the sharn and the ones who first divised the means to become sharn, thus making them the original sharn?

And about Oacenth's Vow…Khelben says Oacenth was the coronal and grand mage of Jhyrennstar and that the last person the Three Watchers spoke to in any direct manner was he (Page 265, Ch. 30). Was his vow about uniting all races to work together and live in peace or some such?

Those Miyeritaari who chose to remain sharn would have become dhaerow with the Corellon's Descent if they had not remained sharn. I think I read in some Forgotten Realms sourcebook that dhaerow meant "traitor" and was what the elves called the drow, and the Corellon's Descent was the spell that transformed the dark elves into drow, right?

Akhelben is Elvish for "blackstaff," right? And what eventually happens to Danthra the Dreamer? Does her spirit move on to the heavens, or is she revived?

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And what eventually happens to Danthra the Dreamer? Does her spirit move on to the heavens, or is she revived?



Steven said this about that, earlier in the year on Keep in a thread.

Sorry about that dropped plot thread. I'd planned a scene at the end where Tsarra visits the Dreamer in her new state, but as I already was running long, it never got developed. My bad.

Danthra still exists in a new state in Rhymanthiin. Think of it as a combination of visiting Sylune in Shadowdale, the Oracle at Delphi, and the Mouth of Truth in Rome (think Audrey Hepburn in Roman Holiday). She's a whisper in the ear of penitents seeking oracular advice, and she's able to manifest visually when the moon is more than half full (but only as a wispy ghostlike figure).

That help? Again, apologies for leaving her hanging there....

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quote:
Originally posted by Galaeron Nihmedu

Thanks, Mr. Schend. I still have more questions, though, if you don't mind. Do sharn usually have three heads and two main arms per body, and does the number of heads they have equal the number of souls they have sharing that body? (I know they share a group mind, but I'm not sure if they share individual bodies except for the big sharn comprising the three grand mages of Miyeritar.)


Sharn always have the same identical look as they've always had--3 heads, the arms with the tri-trunk hands, etc. The number of original souls within them matters little, as they are each and all the same (at least until WotC decides to redefine how the sharn are statted up). This is the sort of question Eric Boyd's much better at answering than I am, if you want a straight answer that makes sense in game terms.

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I also notice in the book that the high magic city that the story revolves around is referred to as both Rhymanthiin and Faer'tel'miir. Is Faer'tel'miir the old name and Rhymanthiin the new?


Correct.

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And the Three Watchers—the three grand mages of Rhymanthiin named T'karon, Hamra, and Alunor—are they the leaders of the sharn and the ones who first divised the means to become sharn, thus making them the original sharn?


Correct; these are the three grand mages who disappeared into the Dark Disaster as noted in Cormanthyr's timeline. And this novel is the first time they'd been named.

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And about Oacenth's Vow…Khelben says Oacenth was the coronal and grand mage of Jhyrennstar and that the last person the Three Watchers spoke to in any direct manner was he (Page 265, Ch. 30). Was his vow about uniting all races to work together and live in peace or some such?


Yes, something like that; I don't have Cormanthyr at hand to check the exact wording of his vow, but it's noted in the history of Jhyrennstar and Oacenth's death.

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Those Miyeritaari who chose to remain sharn would have become dhaerow with the Corellon's Descent if they had not remained sharn. I think I read in some Forgotten Realms sourcebook that dhaerow meant "traitor" and was what the elves called the drow, and the Corellon's Descent was the spell that transformed the dark elves into drow, right?


Yes--any dark elves would have become drow had they relinquished their sharnforms.

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Akhelben is Elvish for "blackstaff," right?


Not quite, no. Akhelben directly translates (as per Cormanthyr, again) into "He who defines duty and honor," if memory serves me correctly.

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And what eventually happens to Danthra the Dreamer? Does her spirit move on to the heavens, or is she revived?



That was answered (and repeated) earlier. She's the Oracle of Rhymanthiin, for lack of a better title at present.

Thanks for all your interest.

Steven

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Not quite, no. Akhelben directly translates (as per Cormanthyr, again) into "He who defines duty and honor," if memory serves me correctly.



Who gave Khelben that name? As much as I like the character, that epithet isn't particularly humble.

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