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Faraer
Great Reader
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 Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 09:08:11
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The first of Ed Greenwood's Knights of Myth Drannor novels has a cover!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786940220
Two of its three figures are probably Florin Falconhand and Jhessail Silvertree...
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 11:37:06
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Hmm, who would the other warrior be? It looks kind of female so is either Islif or more likely (giventhe image quality) it is Merith Strongbow.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 12:04:52
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The Spellcaster seems to be wearing leather armour which leaves me a little confused as Wizards cant wear armour, Im pretty sure there arent any Bards in the Knights of Myth Drannor which leaves Clerics and Druids and Im almost certain that both the Druid and Cleric (Rathan, Doust and the Druid whose name starts with L are all male)
The female swinging the sword looks like an Elf or Half elf, the face has that drawn out elven look to it |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 12:20:12
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Im almost certain that both the Druid and Cleric (Rathan, Doust and the Druid whose name starts with L are all male)
Lanseril. And yes, they're all male. |
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 13:45:56
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Originally posted by Reefy
Lanseril. And yes, they're all male.
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They are? I thought the one casting spell is female. I mean, lookit, breasts yay. Manboobs? |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 15:00:07
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Well, it's SUPPOSED to be (left to right): Jhessail, Islif, Florin, lich-looking-thing (can't reveal true nature; the surroundings are the Haunted Halls). Does look like a leather jack on Jhessail, doesn't it? Maybe they were in the midst of an S&M session (dungeon, after all) and got interrupted.
It can't be Merith, elfboobs or not, because "Swords 1" is set long before any of the Knights have even met Merith, let alone him joining the Knights.
Hmmm. Oh, well, I keep hearing this new fiction in the industry: "The cover isn't about selling the book." Guess WotC bought into that. Sigh.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 17:20:24
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
It can't be Merith, elfboobs or not, because "Swords 1" is set long before any of the Knights have even met Merith, let alone him joining the Knights.
Elfboobs. That's a new one! I like it! 
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hmmm. Oh, well, I keep hearing this new fiction in the industry: "The cover isn't about selling the book." Guess WotC bought into that. Sigh.
love,
THO
Yeah, I've not liked their cover art for a long time...
And you know, I once picked up a novel entirely because of the cover art... I went on to pick up more than 70 novels in that particular line, as well as dozens of sourcebooks, 2 or 3 score metal figures, some plastic figs, some toys, an entire set of dice dedicated to playing the game... The product line is BattleTech, and it took the artwork on one novel to get me interested.
Too bad WotC doesn't seem to realize this kind of thing does happen, particularly among its target demographic. 
But anyway, thanks for setting us straight on the artwork, my lady!  |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 18:29:12
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On the whole "spellcaster wearing leather armour-thing:" I've always assumed the reason armour and spellcasting doesn't work well together would be that armour is heavy - making the somatic components hard to perform, and with Jhessail's leathers being sleeveless, that shouldn't be too much of a problem. But hey, I've been known to be dead wrong about these sort of things
Oh, and I rather like what I see of this cover, it's no Therese Nielsen or Larry Elmore, but on the other hand - it's not the original Tangled Webs or Daughter of the Drow covers either. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 20:06:38
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| Jhessail's thing could be a bodice rather than the stiff leather D&D leather armour represents (though not necessarily in the Realms: what do a set of leathers typically consist of?). Interesting that the third figure is Islif rather than one of the better-known knights; I wasn't sure of its gender, could almost have been Torm as well. I don't think we know what year this first book ends. August would be a great time to cross-promote a Dungeon return to the Haunted Halls. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 00:33:32
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
It can't be Merith, elfboobs or not, because "Swords 1" is set long before any of the Knights have even met Merith, let alone him joining the Knights.
Elfboobs. That's a new one! I like it!
So they have racial names now too?
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hmmm. Oh, well, I keep hearing this new fiction in the industry: "The cover isn't about selling the book." Guess WotC bought into that. Sigh.
love,
THO
Yeah, I've not liked their cover art for a long time...
It's hard for me to select recent FR novel art that I particularly care for -- although, being the Brom fan that I am... the covers for each of the six books of the WotSQ series come close.
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And you know, I once picked up a novel entirely because of the cover art... I went on to pick up more than 70 novels in that particular line, as well as dozens of sourcebooks, 2 or 3 score metal figures, some plastic figs, some toys, an entire set of dice dedicated to playing the game... The product line is BattleTech, and it took the artwork on one novel to get me interested.
I'm curious Wools, just novel?
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 03:14:23
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Forget the cover, I can't wait to read the story!
But yeah, the cover is pretty nice too. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 03:50:02
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
And you know, I once picked up a novel entirely because of the cover art... I went on to pick up more than 70 novels in that particular line, as well as dozens of sourcebooks, 2 or 3 score metal figures, some plastic figs, some toys, an entire set of dice dedicated to playing the game... The product line is BattleTech, and it took the artwork on one novel to get me interested.
I'm curious Wools, just novel?
The Daishi on the cover of Way of the Clans caught my attention... Since then, I've gotten all of the novels up until the CBT fiction line ended, every single TRO (including the original ones, with the Unseen, and the later Revised ones), all of the Field Manuals, 3 of the old House books, most of the recent supplements, and some other oddball books here and there. Plus, the minis... All from that one bit of artwork.
Back to the Realms... A friend of mine used to have a poster of Caldwell's cover art for Spellfire. That was a cool poster. That always was one of my fave Realms covers. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 05:41:45
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| I have the picture from the cover of Azure Bonds on the wall of the stairs one has to walk up to to get into my apartment. Admittedly, it's part of an consciously cheesy installation of fantasy-stuff (which required a picture of a warrior-woman in silly armour), but still - I do have it up on the wall. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 06:00:16
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Originally posted by Kajehase
I have the picture from the cover of Azure Bonds on the wall of the stairs one has to walk up to to get into my apartment. Admittedly, it's part of an consciously cheesy installation of fantasy-stuff (which required a picture of a warrior-woman in silly armour), but still - I do have it up on the wall.
Hey, all the visible walls of my apartment (one is totally obscured by bookshelves) are covered with either Larry Elmore artwork, wall scrolls, or shitajiki. |
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 06:03:49
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kajehase
I have the picture from the cover of Azure Bonds on the wall of the stairs one has to walk up to to get into my apartment. Admittedly, it's part of an consciously cheesy installation of fantasy-stuff (which required a picture of a warrior-woman in silly armour), but still - I do have it up on the wall.
Hey, all the visible walls of my apartment (one is totally obscured by bookshelves) are covered with either Larry Elmore artwork, wall scrolls, or shitajiki.
Shitajiki? Sounds like a finnish curse-word to me And an apartment hasn't been properly decorated unless at least one wall is obscured by bookshelves. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 06:18:45
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| never judge a book by it's cover people I will be one of the first in line to buy this one, it's realms, it's from Ed, and it's about the knights of myth drannor. No further incentive is needed Buy it and let's discuss it here my friends. By the way Wooly, elf boobs??? and Kajehase, I am re-reading the Azure bonds right now, yes good picture, yes cheesy Armour. Paints bulls eye right ........ there, for any male ruffian with a rapier and a will to use it |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 11:25:53
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Shitajiki? Sounds like a finnish curse-word to me And an apartment hasn't been properly decorated unless at least one wall is obscured by bookshelves.
'Tis a Japanese word, meaning "pencil board". It's a thin piece of plastic, slightly smaller in dimensions than a piece of paper. It's designed to be used when writing in a notebook. You slide it under the page you're writing on, and it gives you a hard writing surface.
What makes the things popular is the fact that they have artwork on them. Most of the ones I have have anime images on them, but there's also ones with movie art on them. A lot of people collect these things for the artwork.
Pop over to eBay, and do a search for "pencil board", and then one for "shitajiki". Looking at the pictures, you'll see exactly what I am describing and how nice the art on some of them can be. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36782 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 11:30:03
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Originally posted by scererar
never judge a book by it's cover people I will be one of the first in line to buy this one, it's realms, it's from Ed, and it's about the knights of myth drannor.
Oh, I'll buy the book, regardless of the artwork. I just think it's a bad trend on WotC's part to slap any old bit of art on a book cover, because I see this kind of art scaring away new readers, not attracting them.
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Originally posted by scererar
By the way Wooly, elf boobs???
'Tis a great term our Lady Hooded One coined, is it not?
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Originally posted by scererar
and Kajehase, I am re-reading the Azure bonds right now, yes good picture, yes cheesy Armour. Paints bulls eye right ........ there, for any male ruffian with a rapier and a will to use it
Remember, it's enchanted. Besides, most guys, given such a target, would be too busy staring to do anything! |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 08 Mar 2006 11:31:41 |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 15:00:48
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by scererar
never judge a book by it's cover people I will be one of the first in line to buy this one, it's realms, it's from Ed, and it's about the knights of myth drannor.
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Oh, I'll buy the book, regardless of the artwork. I just think it's a bad trend on WotC's part to slap any old bit of art on a book cover, because I see this kind of art scaring away new readers, not attracting them.
I whole heartedly agree with you on this one. I remember finding the realms novels in the first place. I picked up spellfire, streams of silver, and many others just by the cover art catching my eye. I have noticed a dramatic change in the artwork this past few years, not too sure why, but always thought of it a newer age art ( if that is even an appropiate/ correct title) that I am not so sure I like. I used to pick up source books also for some of the interior artwork, now it seems almost...cheaper? I don't know I am far from an artist to give this stuff proper names, but I miss earlier art from this genre. |
Edited by - scererar on 08 Mar 2006 15:01:57 |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 15:23:44
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I'd like to see the Swords of Eveningstar cover bigger, but it looks perfectly fine to me. Way better than the Shadow of the Avatar covers, which used stock paintings!
The broad approach to book illustration I'd most like to see in the Realms line is that used by the Wandering Star/Del Rey editions of Robert E. Howard, continuing the tradition of N.C. Wyeth etc. |
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 12 Mar 2006 : 03:01:15
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No disagreement here. I spoke to Ed about the art, and he said it wasn’t a surprise to him, as he’d seen sketches and done the usual “three possible scenes” incredibly-detailed art order he gets asked for. However, he also said that he’d secretly hoped for a gorgeous forest setting for the scene; his exact words were:
One should NEVER pass up the chance at doing a really beautiful, sun-dappled, huge-old-trees “deep in Sherwood Forest” scene. Not only are they breathtakingly beautiful, if properly done, they draw browsers in a bookstore like nothing else. Old folks who never buy “those crazy fantasy books” stop and pick the book up and stare at it. If just one in twenty gets swayed by the sell copy and buys it, the paying audience grows by so much - - and every Realms fan wins, because as the line’s sales get stronger, Hasbro execs get more eager to do more and more FR novels.
Nuff said.
love,
THO
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Dhomal
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 12 Mar 2006 : 22:05:49
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Hello-
I'm curious THO - if Ed has any books he can provide as examples of the type of scene he is describing - just (at least for me) so we can have a visual for what he is talking about! :)
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DrJackal
Acolyte
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Posted - 18 Mar 2006 : 05:15:29
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
Hmmm. Oh, well, I keep hearing this new fiction in the industry: "The cover isn't about selling the book." Guess WotC bought into that.
THO
A filksong popular with some pros:
"There's a bimbo on the cover of my book
There's a bimbo on the cover of my book
She is blond and she is sexy
She is nowhere in the text
She is the bimbo on the cover of my book"
There's supposed to be more verses, but I haven't found them yet.
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 01:20:13
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Originally posted by Kajehase
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Kajehase
I have the picture from the cover of Azure Bonds on the wall of the stairs one has to walk up to to get into my apartment. Admittedly, it's part of an consciously cheesy installation of fantasy-stuff (which required a picture of a warrior-woman in silly armour), but still - I do have it up on the wall.
Hey, all the visible walls of my apartment (one is totally obscured by bookshelves) are covered with either Larry Elmore artwork, wall scrolls, or shitajiki.
Shitajiki? Sounds like a finnish curse-word to me And an apartment hasn't been properly decorated unless at least one wall is obscured by bookshelves.
No, it doesn't sound like finnish at all To me it sounds suspiciously swedish (ahem, Kajehase, change the second letter to k... split the word into two after t  ) |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 06:06:18
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Originally posted by Dhomal
Hello-
I'm curious THO - if Ed has any books he can provide as examples of the type of scene he is describing - just (at least for me) so we can have a visual for what he is talking about! :)
Dhomal
The forest of Cormanthor would be what I would envision. I have read everyone of Ed's novels, and I would bet money that this area would be very similar. |
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Dhomal
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 07:16:35
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Hello-
Yes - I suppose the forest of Cormanthor would be what he may be thinking of - but I was actually curious as to 'actual' examples of book-cover art that he likes -a nd were reminiscent of what he would like to see on FR novels. SOmething that we could look up onlijne say - and see the cover for ourselves - and say 'ahhhh!' once we see what he is talking about! :)
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 07:17:25
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Originally posted by Dhomal
Hello-
Yes - I suppose the forest of Cormanthor would be what he may be thinking of - but I was actually curious as to 'actual' examples of book-cover art that he likes -a nd were reminiscent of what he would like to see on FR novels. SOmething that we could look up onlijne say - and see the cover for ourselves - and say 'ahhhh!' once we see what he is talking about! :)
Dhomal
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