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scererar
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 03:11:03
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a little off the topic, but Erik, I really enjoyed these two characters, they almost remind me of Torm and Rathan from, the knights of myth Drannor. I especially like their individual fighting styles. Any possibility of these two appearing in the future?
Additionally Erik, according to your bio, we are from the same geographic location, at least if school attendance counts as residence. |
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Scot Storm
Acolyte
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Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 06:07:39
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Hello fellow scribes and great ones,
To put a twist in this matter of a paladin as a hero, Im sure that your familar with the Dungeons Masters Guide regarding a Blackguard Paladin as being anti-paladin or being an evil paladin in itself. Is there any stories of a good main character paladin fighting an opposite anti-paladin. If you remember in DCs Hall of Justice their was an evil hero for every good guy. With powers that combat each other. For example Green Lanterns main enemy who's name I forgot had a yellow ring of weakness to combat green lanterns ring of power. Sorry to get off the subject of Forgotten Realms bear with me. I think Blackguard Paladins are cool and bring flavor to the game.
Storm
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Richard Lee Byers
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 07:02:22
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Sinestro was/is Green Lantern's archnemesis.
Although I always liked the Shark and Hector Hammond better. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 16:54:17
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quote:
Originally posted by Scot Storm
Is there any stories of a good main character paladin fighting an opposite anti-paladin.
It's not a Realms tale, but in the Rose of the Prophet trilogy by Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman, an evil paladin fought alongside a good-aligned desert nomad. There was this one really great line on his part: "Nomad -- you have stolen from me, cheated me, tricked me, and now it seems likely you are going to get me killed by my own people." Ibn Jad shook his head. "By Zhakrin, I grow to like you!" (Pages 351-352, Paladin of the Night) |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 04:55:32
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Originally posted by Scot Storm
Hello fellow scribes and great ones,
To put a twist in this matter of a paladin as a hero, Im sure that your familar with the Dungeons Masters Guide regarding a Blackguard Paladin as being anti-paladin or being an evil paladin in itself. Is there any stories of a good main character paladin fighting an opposite anti-paladin. If you remember in DCs Hall of Justice their was an evil hero for every good guy. With powers that combat each other. For example Green Lanterns main enemy who's name I forgot had a yellow ring of weakness to combat green lanterns ring of power. Sorry to get off the subject of Forgotten Realms bear with me. I think Blackguard Paladins are cool and bring flavor to the game.
Storm
well then, let's add Scyllua Darkhope, once devoted to Tyr, now Blackgaurd of Bane. She made a short appearance in the farthest reach. Additionally, yes I do remember at least one Paladin fighting an "anti-paladin". in the pools trilogy, Miltaidies, destroys his arch-enemy, who also returns from the grave. the rest would be considered spoilers ( I forgot his name, but it's there, trust me  ) |
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author
USA
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Posted - 06 Mar 2006 : 15:49:54
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Scererar,
I'm going to reply to your questions in my thread over in the Chamber of Sages, so as not to disrupt this fine discussion. 
http://candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3930&whichpage=6
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Erik Scott de Bie
'Tis easier to destroy than to create.
Author of a number of Realms novels (GHOSTWALKER, DEPTHS OF MADNESS, and the SHADOWBANE series), contributor to the NEVERWINTER CAMPAIGN GUIDE and SHADOWFELL: GLOOMWROUGHT AND BEYOND, Twitch DM of the Dungeon Scrawlers, currently playing "The Westgate Irregulars" |
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Darth KTrava
Learned Scribe
USA
172 Posts |
Posted - 07 Mar 2006 : 03:51:34
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
The paladin Bars from Ghostwalker. He is forthright and chivalrous, but those qualities are never written in a heavy-handed fashion.
He was certainly a more interesting paladin. Having "boisterous arguments" with his friend. They liked to poke fun at one another and throw insults but were serious when they really wanted to be. Definitely not the uppity paladin one is more familiar with. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 08 Mar 2006 : 06:34:23
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Originally posted by Darth KTrava
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
The paladin Bars from Ghostwalker. He is forthright and chivalrous, but those qualities are never written in a heavy-handed fashion.
He was certainly a more interesting paladin. Having "boisterous arguments" with his friend. They liked to poke fun at one another and throw insults but were serious when they really wanted to be. Definitely not the uppity paladin one is more familiar with.
I would agree with this assesment also, I truly enjoyed this character, with his fighting style and unique counter part, who was always there to lend a helping hand, dagger towards the lastest foe, or great one-liner to get them through the day
I just saw that was my 200th post, what no balloons, oh well I guess I will just have to continue to try and catch up with the rest of you |
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Hurusan
Acolyte
Austria
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Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 21:24:34
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does anybody know a novel with a member of the Hammers of Grimjaws order as main charakter? or a becoming member
(they are quite rare i believe)
i think it is an elite paladin order
i would also be happy if someone can name a book with a member of one of the other paladinorders of Tyr as main hero |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2007 : 23:44:15
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No specific novels as such.
And it is a Tyrran Paladin order. You may want to look through the "Tyr" entry of Faiths & Avatars for lore about the Hammers of Grimjaws.
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initiate
Learned Scribe
Canada
102 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2007 : 01:12:34
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This is slightly off topic, but I am curious as to whether the Priam Agrivar mentioned several times in this thread has any blood relation to another character of that surname . . . possibly one Kyriani Agrivar?
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 12 Mar 2007 : 01:14:14
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Originally posted by initiate
This is slightly off topic, but I am curious as to whether the Priam Agrivar mentioned several times in this thread has any blood relation to another character of that surname . . . possibly one Kyriani Agrivar?
Yes, although I don't recall if they are cousins or whatnot. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 12 Mar 2007 : 01:24:10
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nbnmare
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
205 Posts |
Posted - 12 Mar 2007 : 01:24:30
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| Apparently there was an undead paladin of Tyr named Miltiades in the Pools trilogy. I've never read them though, so I couldn't tell you which specific one(s) he appeared in. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 12 Mar 2007 : 01:34:25
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Pools of Darkness and Pool of Twilight.
See also, Tarl Desanea's entry in 2e's Heroes' Lorebook for more on Miltiades.
And the Double Diamond novelettes. :) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 12 Mar 2007 : 03:46:07
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Kyriani is his half sister.
Yup. They share the same father -- the late Ostus Agrivar. He was, as I recall, a wizard. |
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chance87
Seeker
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Posted - 28 Jan 2008 : 03:04:05
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| I'm pretty sure that the character Jherek(sp?) from the Threat from the Sea series wound up being a paladin by the end of the set. Seems like he was statted as a paladin in a Dragon about that time. Although I guess being a sailor, he's probably not a "traditional" paladin. |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
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Posted - 28 Jan 2008 : 10:19:55
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As this thread has been revived today, I will through in my tidbits as well:
The Twilight War trilogy of Paul S. Kemp features a Paladin of Lathander, Abelar Corrinthal from Saerb/Sembia.
Book II & III of the Sellsword Trilogy by Bob Salvatore features the great paladin champion Gareth Dragonsbane also known from the great 'Bloodstone War' Adventure trilogy.
And while I am at it: for further discussion see also this thread here at Candlekeep. |
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