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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  02:15:04  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Yes Kuje, it did indeed, and I relayed it to Ed, who promised me a lore reply for you late tonight or sometime tomorrow.
The message The Sage mentioned sending, however, has not yet arrived.
Sigh. Greater frustration through technology.
love,
THO
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Kuje
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  02:16:28  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Yes Kuje, it did indeed, and I relayed it to Ed, who promised me a lore reply for you late tonight or sometime tomorrow.
The message The Sage mentioned sending, however, has not yet arrived.
Sigh. Greater frustration through technology.
love,
THO



No problem. :)

Didn't want to pry but was making me nervous. I'll stop being a pest now. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  02:19:28  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
You're NEVER a pest, Kuje! Keep the queries coming, I know Ed loves them. Oh, yes, I almost forgot: Ed did also mention a reply on the way for darling Wooly . . .
Someday, I'm going to have to meet all of you in the flesh. So to speak!
love,
THO
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Blueblade
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  02:28:46  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Hmmm, do we have to take a number for that, THO? Or just all lie down in a line?
Ahem. Seriously, I'm glad my idea meets with your and Ed's approval. Accordingly, I'm going to toss two more such questions on the pile:

Did Vangerdahast marry or at least have offspring before the events of ELMINSTER'S DAUGHTER?
Did any of his predecessors as Royal Magician/Court Wizard have offspring we don't know about yet, in published Realmslore?

Heh-heh. I await Ed's replies with interest.
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Purple Dragon Knight
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  02:34:24  Show Profile  Click to see Purple Dragon Knight's MSN Messenger address Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message
THO! You ARE on the naughty list!
Meeting in the flesh hey? hmm... I 'am' in the nicely centrally located Burlington, and hold a weekly Realms campaign...

Edited by - Purple Dragon Knight on 21 Dec 2006 02:35:33
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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  03:28:20  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

The message The Sage mentioned sending, however, has not yet arrived.
Sigh. Greater frustration through technology.
love,
THO
Right. I was going to ask, but like Kuje, as I was a little afraid of becoming "The Sagey Pest."

At this point, I thought it may have been safer to just pass it along as a PM to you my lovely Lady Hooded One. As I recall, however, you've disabled that function. Do you have another suggestion?

The good thing about this delay however, is that I was able to receive some info back from two other designers who frequent Candlekeep. As such, I've been able to refine my follow-up points somewhat. I'm hoping Ed will have some fun with these tidbits!

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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  03:32:42  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Someday, I'm going to have to meet all of you in the flesh. So to speak!
love,
THO
Oooh! That would be neat.

::The Sage makes a mental note... "Start visiting the local gym"::

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Kuje
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  03:41:00  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Someday, I'm going to have to meet all of you in the flesh. So to speak!
love,
THO
Oooh! That would be neat.

::The Sage makes a mental note... "Start visiting the local gym"::




Aye, it would. The neat part, not the gym part. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  04:19:11  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Kuje and Wooly: Realmslore replies from Ed now in e-mail (from the HW account) to you.
To The Sage: you, too, are never in danger of becoming a pest. As for disabling the PM function: I can't do Instant Messaging over the Net for security reasons, but I wasn't aware that I'd ever disabled the PM function in these forums (I've received some PMs). How do I enable it?
Or (gasp) can you enable it for me, Sage? And (purr) message me?
To Lady K: deepest apologies. All in fun. I never play with one half of a couple, just with both.
love,
THO
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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  04:38:43  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

To The Sage: you, too, are never in danger of becoming a pest.
That's what I keep telling the Lady K!

She never listens.
quote:
As for disabling the PM function: I can't do Instant Messaging over the Net for security reasons, but I wasn't aware that I'd ever disabled the PM function in these forums (I've received some PMs). How do I enable it?
It's active now.
quote:
Or (gasp) can you enable it for me, Sage? And (purr) message me?
To Lady K: deepest apologies. All in fun. I never play with one half of a couple, just with both.
love,
THO
Your earlier mention about "meeting in the flesh" has suddenly become extraordinarily more intriguing, my lady.

And I'll send the revised message shortly.

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Kuje
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  04:50:30  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
I was going to say, if THO continued to not get Sage's emails, he could have sent it to one of us, we could have sent it on to THO, and sent on the answer to Sage.

Round robin email tag! FUN! :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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The Sage
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  05:00:44  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
Actually, that may be the better option.

The way this revised message is at the moment... a "detailed" series of PMs will likely have to change between mine and THO's and Ed's hands. That takes time... and I don't really relish the idea of clogging up the Lady Hooded One's PM inbox with what may amount to "mindless ramblings from a Sage who shouldn't be connecting the Realmslore in the ways he has"...

I'll decide when I get back from the library. I appreciate the offer Kuje, BTW.

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RodOdom
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  06:12:22  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message
Dear Ed and Lady THO,

In a future Web article (or here on Candlekeep) can Ed show us a sample Cormyr adventuring charter? It would be interesting to see exactly how the crown frames its authority over adventurers.
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Kuje
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  06:30:04  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by RodOdom

Dear Ed and Lady THO,

In a future Web article (or here on Candlekeep) can Ed show us a sample Cormyr adventuring charter? It would be interesting to see exactly how the crown frames its authority over adventurers.



Well.... there's a lot of info on that in the first Knight's novel. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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createvmind
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  17:20:17  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Happy holidays all,

Hello Mr. Greenwood

A nuetral cleric of Sarvas who chooses to channel negative energy to rebuke undead has what kind of cleric symbol? Does a clerics symbol channel both forms of energy when it comes to rebuke or turn undead or must he choose a holy or unholy symbol to use appropiate energy type?
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createvmind
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  17:34:14  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hi again,

Can you tell me if anything relevant happened during the shieldmeet of 1372 in the Western Heartlands or anywhere nearby?
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RodOdom
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  17:36:28  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by RodOdom

Dear Ed and Lady THO,

In a future Web article (or here on Candlekeep) can Ed show us a sample Cormyr adventuring charter? It would be interesting to see exactly how the crown frames its authority over adventurers.



Well.... there's a lot of info on that in the first Knight's novel. :)



In trying to prepare one for a player, I did turn to Swords of Eveningstar. What was really interesting was the need for a sponsor, and in the Knight's case since Azoun himself was granting the charter, an honorary sponsor.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 Dec 2006 :  17:58:35  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

You're NEVER a pest, Kuje! Keep the queries coming, I know Ed loves them. Oh, yes, I almost forgot: Ed did also mention a reply on the way for darling Wooly . . .
Someday, I'm going to have to meet all of you in the flesh. So to speak!
love,
THO



I got the email, my lady. Thanks to both you and Ed for the info!

If a similar topic comes up here, can I share that info?

About meeting us all in the flesh... I still have a request in with Santa to find you under my Christmas tree on Christmas morn. If not then, my birthday is just a couple weeks later...

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 22 Dec 2006 :  00:54:15  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, fellow scribes. Ed answers Foxhelm this time, re. this: “I have some hesitations on asking these question as they tend to be morose, but it is of importance to Realms fans.
If something was to happen to happen to Ed (God Forbid!), would would happen to the Forgotten Realms? Would alrights be reverted to Wizards or whomever owns it? Or would it go to Ed's heirs like certain works of fiction (like Tolkien)?
Has Ed been training an apprentice/s that might be able to help keep his spirit alive in the Realms for years to come? Does Ed ever think of what might become of one of his greatest literary creation after his passing? Does he see it as one of his legacies to future generations?
Sorry for bring the spectre of death or illness in, but it was a question that has been troubling my mind and likely some of the players of the realms in the dark of night.
Let's just hope that Ed lives to be over a hundred.”
Kentinal then posted: “Foxhelm, WotC owns FR now, no death would change or transfer ownership, unless the rights are sold to an individual. Ed has the right to provide canon that has not made print, as the creator of the Realms, however if current owner disagrees their printed material is canon not Ed's words.”
And Foxhelm responded: “Sorry, I wasn't sure how much control that Ed had. I am still curious about what Ed has done to prepare the Realms in case anything had happened to him.
It's just in many ways, Ed is a security blanket. Many people might not like aspects of the realms (the new planes, the number of gods), but many take comfort in the fact that Ed has some major input in the events as creator. He created the realms and has the ability to enhance it as well. Well, thanks for the partial answer.”
Ed replies:



If I fall over dead tomorrow (I’m not planning on doing so right now, but one never knows, does one?), the Realms remains in the hands of the current copyright owner, TSR, Inc. (now a wholly-owned subsidiary of Wizards of the Coast, Inc., which is in turn owned by Hasbro, Inc.). Legally, the owner of the Realms is TSR, unless or until a year passes without print publication of a new, novel-length work (fiction or game lore) by me, except when I agree to such a publication not occurring within a year. If that “no publication” ever occurs, all rights to the Realms revert to me.
Trademarks complicate this, of course (though under Canadian law, they’d remain, and move with, the copyright), and in some jurisdictions that means the Realms revert to me a year after TSR sells it, regardless (unless they reach some agreement with a new owner that allows them to publish something new and novel-length by me), but in most jurisdictions they can sell it but the new owner is bound by the same agreement.
Please note that I’m not a lawyer, court judgements change details of law all the time, and I fervently hope that I never, never end up in any such dispute; I just want to go on writing about the Realms forever. :}
Certainly I think of the Realms as a legacy to others. Otherwise, it’d still be just my private fantasy world, and I’d never have entered into an agreement with TSR in the first place.
As for training successors, the Realms does that for me. As of right now, Eric Boyd could step in and do what I do in a second. So could Steven Schend. Jeff Grubb is probably a little rusty on current Realmslore, but could with work step in. George Krashos, Tom Costa, Ian Hunter, and perhaps Rich Baker could all “do what I do,” though they’d probably all bring their own styles of doing things to the task. Please note that I haven’t asked any of these esteemed gentlemen if they WANT to, before listing them here. It’s not a job so much as it is a life calling; it consumes my life, snatching every second I let it take. I already know THO wouldn’t want the job, or I’d have listed her here, too. It might well drive anyone nuts (I know it has me!).
So Kentinal’s answer is essentially correct. And by the way, I don’t mind discussing this in the slightest, though of course I’d prefer we discuss the Realms here instead of, say, having scribes chase after all of the people I’ve listed here and try to get commitments or statements from them. (It would be less than polite, irrelevant [I hope!] anyway, and some of them are almost certainly constrained by their current employment from freely giving answers in any case.)



So saith Ed. I can confirm that I certainly wouldn’t want to be “THE Lorelord of the Realms” (and of course only Ed can be the Creator), and I can also confirm that it has taken over his life. I’m not his wife and don’t live with him, but I’ve seen and heard enough to know that it does.
Poor long-suffering stand-in for Elminster. I must remember to soothe him, when next I see him, in my own special way . . .
love to all,
THO
P.S. Wooly, of COURSE you can share that info.
As for me under the tree, someday . . . who knows?
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Malcolm
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Posted - 23 Dec 2006 :  04:26:57  Show Profile  Visit Malcolm's Homepage Send Malcolm a Private Message
Another lore query for Ed.
I'm trying to decide how "liberal" or tolerant Caladnei and the Obarskyrs are, as of "right now" in Cormyr.
If I put on a play in Suzail, or perform a ballad there, that viciously (but cleverly, and "spot on" accurately) lampoons/parodies Caladnei, or the Steel Regent, or Dowager Queen Filfaeril, or the dead Azoun IV, will I be arrested and punished? Put on trial for something (what?) and then punished? Exiled? Killed?
Thanks for any reply you can give.

Edited by - Malcolm on 23 Dec 2006 04:28:04
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 23 Dec 2006 :  04:31:16  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Nice question, Malcolm! Off to Ed it goes . . .
And speaking of the Great Bearded One, Ed herewith makes answer to Sage of Stars, re, this query: “I have a question for Ed regarding Cormyr, and the next two Knights books. Specifically, how much lore is Ed planning to "sneak in" around the edges of the story?”
Ed replies:



As much as I can, so as to give readers the “feel” of some slice of life in Cormyr (scenes in taverns, alleys, a Watch lockup, an inn in Halfhap, glittering court events in the Palace and Royal Court, and so on). So you won’t see large chunks of “oh, here’s game lore I can take out and use,” but words and descriptions here and there that can be worked into a Cormyrean campaign, yes.
As always, the story is the important thing; no info dumps to break up the sweep and flow of the narrative. I’d love to stick little Realmslore articles in the back of my novels, as appendices, but that’s not likely to happen, because I just don’t have time to write them, and I don’t want to lose one word of story to put in a word of lore (I have plenty of other outlets for lore, including Wizards’ website support at the time of publication for the novels - - but fiction, not so much).



So saith Ed. We’ll have to wait and see just how much and how juicy the Realmslore gets, obviously.
love to all,
THO
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Rolindin
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Posted - 23 Dec 2006 :  08:59:26  Show Profile  Visit Rolindin's Homepage Send Rolindin a Private Message
I have a question for Mr Greenwood about Corymer and the type of system they use. Is corymer system something like the feudial system, or is it different in some ways. Say for instance can a commener raised in a small village, who is noticed by a Purple Knight or cleric of one of the churches, be given a chance to become something more than their up bringing. I have read that the higher class of socity are mostly the commanders and such. Only one person obtained a postion because of his abilities, not his class in the socity.

What was your ideal Mr Greenwood about the corymrrian socity, or was Corymer added to the forgotten Realms after it was atken over from you.

Just would like to know about the corymerian socity and can a lower level citizen get chances like the upper class of Corymer.
Just a rough view on how the socity might work and advancments a lower class npc or character could become. If you would please.

Would Corymer have any special drinks or food that would be a Corymerian specaility also. Thanks in advance.
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Kuje
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Posted - 23 Dec 2006 :  16:38:05  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rolindin

was Corymer added to the forgotten Realms after it was atken over from you.

Would Corymer have any special drinks or food that would be a Corymerian specaility also. Thanks in advance.




Cormyr has always been in the Realms since Ed's used it in his home game long before he sold FR to TSR.

As for the second question, there is the Suzail Ale in Aurora's Whole Realms Catalog sourcebook from 2e.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Jamallo Kreen
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quote:
Originally posted by RodOdom

It would be nice if Wizards would come up with a 'visual bible' for Forgotten Realms illustrations. They can leave enough room for the individual stylizations of the artists, but provide a guide so that it doesn't look like something out of a Japanese cartoon show (too much of that in today's RPG fantasy, IMHO.)



Hear! Hear! D'accord!

Ed and Elaine and other writers frequently describe their key characters (and even many minor characters) at great length, and it would be soooo cool to have a book of Torilian characters giving their literary descriptions and then perhaps two or three "Artist's conceptions" of them. I'm not talking about a coffee table art book, but a book of sketch's which readers can use as references and Dm's can show to their players as aides memoire.

Elminster is one of the very few Realms characters I can describe in just a couple of sentences and be fairly certain that all of my players are visualizing the same person, because he has been so widely ilustrated. Blackstaff and his Lady Mage, too, because (1) Blackstaff has been illustrated several times, not least in the Conspectus of the Realms, and (2) because his lady wife is ... er ... well ... "distinctive"-looking.

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createvmind
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Posted - 23 Dec 2006 :  19:29:21  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Hello Ed,

You've spoken of beings inflicted with uncontrolled shapechanging in the past, does this effect subtype and gender too, like being forced into shape of an abberation. How are these "curses" or afflictions lifted being magical in nature, I'm speaking of the one where the being shapechanges into various creatures not the lycanthrope affliction.

Thanks
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