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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 30 Nov 2006 :  19:26:01  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
And because I don't have enough outstanding questions... I was just rereading the old Dragon article on Eveningstar. I found myself wondering about a couple of things with Lord Tessaril Winter.

First, why did she masquerade as a male?

Second, why did she, after becoming a skilled mage, decide to become a fighter?

Third, what's her connection with Azoun? As in, how did they meet, and what all (other than sex ) did they do together before he named her a Lord?

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Blueblade
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 :  21:19:17  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Hello, all. THe Lovely Lady Hooded just e-mailed me this:

Ed is busy reading a Christmas story (he writes a new one every year) at a public library, and may not be back home in time to send me the lore reply he promised before end-of-day.
In the meantime, I can tell Wooly this: Tessaril adventured with Azoun back in his days with the adventuring band that was known for a time as the King's Men. They have a long history, and no, it's not JUST sex.
love to all,
THO

...I've heard they're having ice storms in Ed's neck of the woods now. Perhaps that's the delay. Hmmm.
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Edited by - Blueblade on 01 Dec 2006 21:22:05
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 01 Dec 2006 :  23:57:14  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello, all. Gray Richardson recently asked: “Hi Ed, I was wondering if you could tell me about taxes in Suzail.

(snip)

What other surprising taxes, tarrifs or fees might an adventurer in Suzail stumble across?”
Ed replies:

(snip)

So saith Ed, who just once wants to do lounge naked on a bed of shiny new gold coins (or so he tells me).
love to all,
THO




Each answer provokes so many questions!

Apropos of stall rentals, what sort and level of rent would be charged a tenant for dwellings of various types in various cities? (For ease of comparison, let's assume that all cities are the equivalent of Atlantic City in Monopoly, each city with its equivalent of Baltic Avenue, Marvin Gardens, Park Place, etc. shall we?)

Are rural rents usually collected in coin or in kind or in service? How do they vary from region to region?

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  00:09:51  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello again, all. Jamallo Kreen recently posted: “Please correct me if I'm wrong, Ed, but my understanding is that one can -- without violating the time stream -- even go back in time to Netheril, study with an archwizard for a year and then come back with cool new tricks to show off at one's New Year's Eve party. Is it not so, or does Mystra purge one's memory of spells learned in the past? One can imagine what hilarity would ensue if such a time travelling magical apprentice returned to 1374 and then happened to bump into Tabra, whom he knew from their student days in jolly old Netheril. Apropos of which hilarity, has Tabra cast Iolaum's longevity more than once, or was her casting of it centuries ago the only casting of it which she has done?”
Ed replies:



Unfortunately for would-be avid scholars, “the new” Mystra and Azuth, having observed and discussed some previous mortal doings and experiences (and the consequences of same) have now both agreed to neatly fix matters so that arcane spellcasters moving into the past “leave their lore behind them.” In other words, mortal spellcasters arrive back in the past knowing NOTHING about magic, not even recalling their aptitude for it (they still have that aptitude, but unless circumstances point it out to them, they have “forgotten” that they have it - - along with all memorized spells, of course!).
So they COULD study, back in the past, but it would be as green novices - - and for each year spent “back in the past” studying, their chances of returning sane decrease. In effect, the various deities of magic allow someone who jaunts back into the past for a specific bit of information (a word of activation/command word, a specific conversation between mages, the whereabouts of a hidden magic item, and the like) to be able to “bring it back,” but NOT to profitably study in the past to improve performance in the present.
And yes, Tabra HAS cast Iolaum’s longevity more than once. She’s cast it twice, but the second casting is NDA.



So saith Ed. Who was not all that pleased with chronomancy, as I recall . . .
love to all,
THO




CURSES! Foiled again! Confound you hooded crusaders! Just you wait and see -- some day the time stream will be free from the meddling of goody-two-shoes deities (and -- especially! -- of those darned kids!)!

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  00:21:47  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Thanks for the assist, Blueblade, dear.
Hi again, all. This time Ed replies to David Lázaro’s followup re. Silverymoon: “Thanks Ed and The Hooded One for such an inspiring piece of Silvaeren lore. There are many things in the Realms that I find fascinating, but currently (Ed's version of) Silverymoon is one of my dearest. I have some related questions that I hope you can answer when you find the time.
In relation to the illustration of Silverymoon by Sam Wood, I love it (FRCS, p. 173), it's a wonderful depiction of Silverymoon. I suppose that most of the trees are inhabited by elves and the underground dwellings are occupied by dwarves, gnomes and halflings, am I right?
I also remember from the time I read Elminster in Myth Drannor, that some of the elven houses there were real buildings and that old blooded elven houses tended to be very, uhm... imaginative with the architecture. Is it the same in Silverymoon?
With (around) 10,751 elves and 4,448 half-elves, Silverymoon is as much an elven city as it is human. How are Silvaeren elves different from their cousins? In the Silver Marches sourcebook there is information about a dwarven establishment, The Hammer and the Helm, but there is no information about elven establishments, is there any remarkable elven establishment in the city or with that many elves should I suppose that the other ones are mixed-race? And in a related note, is there a local elven nobility or even a local nobility at all? The only reference to a powerful and influential Silvaeren not related to the government that I could dig is Draevin Flarwood, from the Silverfall novel, who seems to be related to the Braeder Merchant Collective of Silverymoon (whatever that is).
Regarding the Argent Legion towers, I wonder if the local jail is also there, but I remember you writing that long term imprisonment is a modern concept not applicable to the Realms, and there are also cells for the use of the High Guard in the palace.
I have even more questions remaining (that idea of Alustiel's orgies seems to good to pass by, my Lady Hooded One *wink*), but I suppose that it is best to leave them for later. I must say (isn't it clear already?) that I love the Silver Marches, one of the best things 3rd Ed. realms has brought to our table, the other one being Power of Faerûn.”
Ed replies:



I would have loved a Silver Marches that was at least three times as long, so as to have room to do PROPER city detailings for Silverymoon, Sundabar, Everlund, and so on. However, I was pleased to be able to squeeze in as much of Silverymoon as I could. I love the place (glad I created it :} ), and it probably shows.
By and large, yes, most of the trees are inhabited by elves and half-elves, and most of the underground domiciles by gnomes, dwarves, and halflings. However, there’s a LOT of intermixing in Silverymoon (“mixed race longterm relationships, formal marriages and otherwise”), and folk party and visit back and forth, so you’re more likely to see an elf who’s gotten used to caves, and dwarves scampering around tree boughs (to halflings doing so in second nature) in Silverymoon than elsewhere.
Yes, elven architecture is inventive in Silverymoon, much given over to sweeping curves, growing plants, courtyards with “sunshafts” and angled surfaces and mirrors to catch and direct moonlight down into interior rooms, rainwater cisterns redirected into interior waterfalls and “Fallingbrook”-like [the reference here is to the Pennsylvania, USA private home designed by Frank Lloyd Wright, which every student of urban affairs and architecture in Ontario, Canada, at least, gets coverage of, and which I later visited] interior descending streams. Elven residences ALL have “green growing things” of some sort growing indoors.
Yes, elves and half-elves do form a slight majority in the city, though they don’t vote, think, or act as any sort of unified bloc. Silvaeren elves, however, are not distinctly different from other elves, elsewhere, except that the xenophobia and superiority (that some other races think of as “arrogance,” when thinking of sun/gold elves in particular) are almost entirely absent. Individuals may exhibit it (and in private, roll their eyes at the incompetencies and lack of forethought some races, such as halflings and humans, often seem to exhibit, or the “humourless stubborness” of the stereotypical dwarf), but in general, Silverymoon is home to the “young, tolerant, swinging” elves, mainly moon elves with a scattering of others, including avariel.
The reason why there’s coverage of The Hammer and the Helm but no “elven establishments” in Realmslore is that (most) dwarves feel most comfortable in a dark stone warren of a place, drinking with other dwarves, but most other races in the city (the elves in particular) like consorting with other races, humans in particular - - so, yes, the “other establishments” are indeed “mixed-race.” Elves who want to remain exclusive tend to form private clubs that meet in private residences, not found their own elf-exclusive inns, taverns, or businesses.
And no, the city has no local formal nobility (beyond Alustriel) at all, elven or otherwise. Some families have “leading” reputations, but no formal rights, privileges, or powers.
Merchant Collectives are akin to costers, but rather than operate caravans, they buy and sell as a group, which helps to keep prices the costers (and other importers) charge them down by giving them marketing clout. They also establish and enforce local business rules, standards, and “best practices” far better than any constabulary ever could (if you break the rules, others just won’t trade with you, so you can be ruined [forced to depart the city, or starve] in short order). Silverymoon has seven or eight large collectives, but they cross the lines of fields of trade (preventing the formation of guilds, and being fundamentally different in that they don’t contain all [or only] the coopers, all the chandlers, and so on).
There are holding cells under the Argent Legion towers, yes (and large spellcasting chambers/“parade ground halls”, too), but they are very rarely used. They do have massive and plentiful manacles set into the walls for restraining very dangerous captives, and some worshippers of Loviatar once had to be evicted after sneaking in to chain each other up and ritually flog each other.
Glad you like the Silver Marches, thanks for the great questions, and yes, I suppose we’ll get around to discussing Alustriel’s orgies sooner or later. Can’t I delay you for now by mentioning that Our Lady Hooded’s character couldn’t resist being stripped, chained, and flogged in those aforementioned manacles as a lure to draw out some still-hidden Loviatans? No? Well, ask her how she plays “Hide The Whip” sometime . . .



So saith Ed. Mentioning something VERY indelicate at the end, there. No, I think I’ll just leave scribes to guess at how that’s played. They’re all FANTASY fans, after all . . .
love to all,
THO
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  00:37:33  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

quote:
Originally posted by THO in Ed's 2004 thread
It's very important that gamers not follow their real-world (usually monotheistic) thinking when considering Faerunian situations: the Realms is pantheistic, and "everyone knows" ALL the gods (at least of one's own race) "really exist." Unlike our real world, there's no denying that the folk praying to another god next door aren't just as correct as "we" are, because often "we" will also be praying to that other deity soon (if only for appeasement). The faith lies in believing this or that personal, dream-vision-induced, or priestly interpretation of the deity's will or intentions or prohibitions, not in believing the god exists.


One of my player is asking me what exactly you mean by “everyone knows” and “really exist” ?

There is a subtle difference with “knows” and “everyone in the world believe”, what is the most correct one for describing it ? (Ex. “Earth is flat, Earth is round”). If it’s the first, which proofs are shown to them to make them knows ?

Let’s say it’s prayers' visibles effects: knowing that with spells, a wizard could mimic easily many “divine powers” (like raising dead with a Wish); wouldn’t it be possible for common folks to think that there is no Gods and only “wizards who thinks are doing faith-based miracles” ?

Let’s say it’s ToT : Some would argue that seeing Gods walking the land was the ultimate proof, but I doubt Ed were taking it into account in this answer. In the opposite case, it means that the relationship between mortals and Gods really changed during this RSE, if it’s the case, I would like to hear Ed about it.




Again, answers provoke more questions: are there any religions which flat-out deny the divinity of some other "deity"? For example, does the Church of Lathander flatly state that Orcus is not a deity, whether he can grant spells to his clerics or not? Perhaps a deeper question would be: are there "Powers" who are active on Faerun who do not have access to Cynosure because they aren't "real" gods? (My question doesn't take into account Cyric and Bane and Iyachtu and all of the troubles they have had with each others' "genuineness;" Cyric, we know, thinks that he is the only One True God, but Cyric ... has issues....)

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  00:55:42  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
Well met, Ed and Lady Hooded One!

The Antikythera Mechanism has been in the news for the past two days, and I am curious as to what, if any, advanced calculating devices exist in the Realms (excluding Mercane/Arcane imports and insane gnomish inventions!).

I think that it has been mentioned elsewhere that abaci are used, but what about things like "Napier's Bones" and slide rules, and geared adding machines and astronomical devices (orreys, for example)? Da Roni seems to be on the cutting edge of Faerunian technology, but, as I wrote to one of the researchers working on the Antikythera Mechanism, there is a BIG question as to the degree that such advanced ancient technology penetrated society at large; one might say the same for Da Roni's inventions. (I'm sure some people read the back pages of Aurora's Catalog and scoff at the advertising there as so much hokum, and use those pages first when in the little room.)

Life in Faerun nowadays must certainly be exciting for Gondians and such-like!

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  19:00:46  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
Well met, Master of the Green Wood!

I have some question about Divine Salient Abilities and how they relate to some of the Faerunian deities, and another, more general question about the Torilian divinities. ("Not another question about the gods!?" Yes, another question about the gods....) I'm addressing this to your busy self because it is the Powers of Faerun about which I want specific answers -- other crystal spheres, other rules -- it's Realmspace's gods upon whom I want the skinny.

There are three specific Divine Salient Abilities whose workings amongst the gods and goddess of Realmspace particularly interests me: Divine Recall (which Oghma and Tyr both have) and Know Secrets and Know Death (both of which Shar has, and the latter of which Kelemvor -- and probably Jergal) have.

Does a deity's Divine Recall permit the deity to "remember" portfolio-specific events which occurred before the arrival or ascension of the deity? For example, does Tyr "remember" the enactment of laws made prior to his arrival on Faerun in -247 DR?

Can a Faerunian Power use the Know Secrets ability upon another Faerunian Power? For example, can Shar look at Mask and instantly know his latest scheme, or eyeball Kelemvor and learn Mystra's Truename?

Can a Faerunian Power use the Know Death ability upon another Faerunian Power? For example, would Shar have known which deities were going to get their eggs scrambled in the Time of Troubles (or who was going to get it before or after the ToT if the ability wasn't functioning then)?

If Faerunian Powers can use Know Secrets and Know Death upon one another, are they bound by Ao (or grudging courtesies) not to reveal what their abilities reveal to them?

More generally, do the human-like Powers of Realmspace dream? There is a supposition in Planescape that even dead deities from other crystal spheres and different planes can dream (if nothing else!), but do the non-Elven humanoid Powers of Realmspace dream at all? (If dead Torilian gods sleep lightly, one can imagine that Auppenser is probably sleeping lightest of all, but quien sabe?)

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  19:49:16  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HunterOfStorms

Hi THO and Ed,
I've recently been looking through Power of Faerun with particular interest in the Heralds section and am wondering whether the Heralds (in the context of the over-arching organisation) are humano-centric - ie. only keep track of human related heraldry (even in mixed populations) - or whether they maintain a broader purview. Which leads into a couple of questions :)

How far back beyond their founding would any records of the Heralds stretch (and how accurate might they be - are they that interested in confirming any snippets of lore they might uncover relating to heraldic lines before their official records begin)?

(snip)




I recently read the section on Master Heralds in Ocult Lore from Penumbra (DMs, keep it away from your players!), and while it seems that the author was familiar with the Heralds of Faerun (), he also dealt with "houses of memory" -- mnemonic aids which allow their users to memorize data and recall it by association with something familiar but imaginary (a mansion, or a tree, or whatever other mental image with which they feel comfortable). This is a Real World technique, used since ancient times. Do the Heralds of Faerun make use of such devices?

HunterOfStorms's question about how far back Heraldic memory extends also ties into question I have had since reading a Scarred Lands book in which there is a bardic organization which taps into the memories of the planetary deity herself (this would presumably be Chauntea on Faerun). Are there any individuals or organizations which have, at least potentially, access to all knowledge from the earliest days of Faerun (i.e. the Days of Thunder ... or earlier)? Any given Aboleth will have ten or twenty thousand years or more of memories, but are there those who serve as "the memory of Toril" itself? (Astinus of Planathus springs to mind as an example of what I am thinking.)

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 02 Dec 2006 :  19:57:08  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hi again, all. This time, the request for Ed’s lore comes from Jamallo Kreen, to whit: “Who was the disembodied Netherese Archwizard "Ander" back when he was alive, and what details are known of him besides what is in Elminster: Making of a Mage? (Yes! My effort to read El's life story backward to its beginnings has progressed all the way to Athalantar.)”
Ed replies:


Mharrander Dorolkh is the full and proper name of this Netherese archwizard, who was born in -1546 DR in Tzindylspar,

(snip)

So saith Ed. Who's throat-deep in work, as usual.
love to all,
THO




Thank you very much!

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Uzzy
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Hello again Ed and THO.

I've just read the Cormyr series, couldn't put them down! Shame about Tanalasta, she was great! Anyway, I've a few questions about Azoun IV.

Where exactly in Suzail was he buried? Was he buried with anything? Was there a period of him lying in state, and if so, was there an 'Honour Guard', and made up of who? Also, what happened to the body of the Devil Dragon?

As always, many thanks for sharing the lore with us!
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quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy

Hello again Ed and THO.

I've just read the Cormyr series, couldn't put them down! Shame about Tanalasta, she was great! Anyway, I've a few questions about Azoun IV.

Where exactly in Suzail was he buried? Was he buried with anything? Was there a period of him lying in state, and if so, was there an 'Honour Guard', and made up of who? Also, what happened to the body of the Devil Dragon?

As always, many thanks for sharing the lore with us!



Im pretty sure Ive seen answers to most of what your asking check out Kujes compiled list of Eds answers if its not there then it maybe in the one of the Dragon annuals (unfortunately my copies not readily avaliable at the moment)

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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by Uzzy

Hello again Ed and THO.

I've just read the Cormyr series, couldn't put them down! Shame about Tanalasta, she was great! Anyway, I've a few questions about Azoun IV.

Where exactly in Suzail was he buried? Was he buried with anything? Was there a period of him lying in state, and if so, was there an 'Honour Guard', and made up of who? Also, what happened to the body of the Devil Dragon?

As always, many thanks for sharing the lore with us!



Im pretty sure Ive seen answers to most of what your asking check out Kujes compiled list of Eds answers if its not there then it maybe in the one of the Dragon annuals (unfortunately my copies not readily avaliable at the moment)



Yeah,

Ed has answered most of those over the years. Check my files....

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Uzzy
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Checked there once. Ah well.. time to check again.
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Uzzy, you may want to use the compiled Index and/or ToC files that are also part of the compiled Ed's replies here at Candlekeep.

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The Hooded One
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Hello again, fellow fans of the Realms. I bring Ed’s latest answers, this time to RodOdom’s recent queries: “When Waterdhavians look out east from their towers or mountainside homes, what do they see between the city and the Ardeep forest on the horizon? Is this area mostly clear-cut farm and pastureland?
In "Elminster's Daughter" when the Old Mage gives Caladnei the magic bracelet he tells her a command word "amalumystra." What language is this? What does it mean?”
Ed replies:



They can’t properly see the river, because it’s down in a hollow. The terrain is gently-rolling, grassy hills, cleared of everything and kept that way by the endlessly arriving, departing, camping, and mustering caravans. Directly east of the cliff that forms most of the eastern boundary of the city are meadows where (in a brief morning scene in CITY OF SPLENDORS [the novel Elaine Cunningham and I wrote], the nobles fly their raptors).
In a long-ago DRAGON article (issue 128, I believe; please correct me, someone, if my aging and way-overloaded memory is failing), I detailed the Environs of Waterdeep, and Eric Boyd recently updated and expanded that coverage in a web enhancement for the CITY OF SPLENDORS: WATERDEEP sourcebook.
The immediate vicinity of the city is heavily patrolled, is used by Waterdhavians for picnics and “family outings” (yes, kite-flying, galloping of owned or rented ponies, digging up flowers and herbs [and often, surreptitiously burying stolen goods or other “must hide” evidence], lovers trysting by night, and younglings “proving themselves” to their peers by staying out for the night in groups, and so on), and is kept clear by order of the Lords (to give caravans - - and citizens willing to avoid some of the crowding in the streets by going out a gate and “around” much of the city - - ample room to travel, muster, meet, and camp, and also to deny any attacking armies cover). Clerics from Goldenfields use magic to prevent “bare-dirt” trails from developing where they aren’t wanted (they exist bounding the east side of the city, of course).
So, think “endless pleasant green hills” (or in winter, endless white snowy hills), and you’ll have it right.
As for the command word “amalumystra,” it’s not a proper word in any language at all (command words are usually meant to be sounds people are unlikely to utter by accident, and so tend not to be words that have other meanings), but rather an amalgam of “amalum” (which means “awaken” in Loross, the Netherese noble tongue) and the name of Mystra, goddess of magic. A Chosen of Mystra (or Azuth) might say, “Tal-amalum-Mystra,” meaning [in Loross] literally, “Awaken to my presence, Mystra,” but really meaning, “Mystra, I’m here.” However, no other entity in the Realms is likely to speak so, making amalumystra a fairly “safe” choice as a command word.



So saith Ed. Patiently painting in little corner of the Realms after little corner of the Realms (these days, with much help from a growing legion of other talented creators, from Steven Schend and Eric Boyd and Elaine Cunningham to Paul Kemp, Rich Baker, and the “Young Dragons”). To say nothing of George Krashos, Tom Costa, Brian Cortijo, and a host of other more-unsung scribes.
For which I say: thank goodness. Ed’s brain was getting tired.
love to all,
THO
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Posted - 03 Dec 2006 :  16:05:21  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, fellow scribes. For another direct quotation from Ed of the Greenwood, on the topic of Elminster's mental healing, post-ELMINSTER IN HELL, I direct your attention to the Novels threads, specifically "How long was Elminster in Hell?"
This is from an older Ed lore reply to some fellow Realms designers, quoted here in public for the first time (with Ed's permission, of course).
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THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 03 Dec 2006 16:07:31
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Posted - 03 Dec 2006 :  16:39:33  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message
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Originally posted by The Hooded One


In a long-ago DRAGON article (issue 128, I believe; please correct me, someone, if my aging and way-overloaded memory is failing), I detailed the Environs of Waterdeep, and Eric Boyd recently updated and expanded that coverage in a web enhancement for the CITY OF SPLENDORS: WATERDEEP sourcebook.


It was indeed in Dragon 128.

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Posted - 04 Dec 2006 :  01:10:27  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi, all. This time, Ed responds to Wandering_mage (and yes, to Kaladorm, too!) re. this, from WM: “I would speak on a subject of humor for but a moment. While reading Elminster in Hell, which by the way is an excellent read and should get 5 stars, my son who is but learning about Santa Claus just now really pointed at Elminster on the cover and referred to Elminster as Santa Claus. And Elminster was fighting a snake and pumpkins (he refers to anything scary as pumpkin, thus the imps were pumpkins). I didn't have the heart to tell him that Elminster was not Santa Claus, however I almost wonder if mages around Faerun don't view this powerful mage as a Santa Claus of sorts at times. Thought you'd get a laugh from that Ed and THO.”
[to which Kaladorm added: “That would make Lhaeo....Mrs Klaus?”]
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I got TWO laughs, thanks to the both of you. The Hooded One is discreetly failing to mention the infamous “Santa Elminster” moment, in which she sat on my knee, asked for things, and, er, got them - - but never mind. Perhaps the less said about that, the better.
I often get mistaken for Santas Claus when I’m shopping (and I always smile, lean close, and murmur, “Hi! Don’t tell anyone else except Mummy or Daddy [whoever’s with them], because I’m IN DISGUISE! Okay!” . . . which seems to delight them), even to having little kids pull on my beard to be sure it’s real.
Oh, and by the way: every year I write and read a new Christmas story for the annual Christmas Open House at the Port Hope Public Library (where I work as a part-time circulation clerk), and delivered this year’s on Friday just past. Once I’ve done enough of them for a book, we’ll collect them all into a book, and donate all royalties to the library.
Yes, many mages of the Realms DO see Elminster as the equivalent of Santa Claus (a term and concept unknown to them, of course). Perhaps he’s best described as “Mystra’s Gruffly Whimsical Fairy.” :}
And please tell your son that Elminster IS Santa Claus and he and I both have to fight a lot of pumpkins.
(However, that’s “No claus for alarm!” [Sorry])
As for you, Kaladorm: HOhohohohohohoho! A jester after my own heart! (And gizzard, and chittlins, and so I’d better shift them all around a bit, so I don’t lose them . . .)



So saith Ed. “Mystra’s Gruffly Whimsical Fairy”? Geez, Ed, you nearly made me wet myself! (“Hello, there, Mystra’s Gruffly Whimsical Fairy! What’ve you got up your old beard for this naughty little lass, THIS time? Hmmm? Oh, the usual? [Yawn]” etc.)
Rolling my eyes, here.
love to all,
THO
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Hello Mr. Greenwood and THO,

I wonder what material and/or lore is available about Hulgorkyn, besides that it's the Archaic Orc language, that it's a dead language and that it uses dwarven characters. Any important writings and or works in that language? If not, anything else one should be aware of? I am playing a half-orcish wizard who would like to discover more about that language and its role in orc evolution and culture.

Any help would be highly appreciated , thanks in advance.
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My lovely Lady Hooded One, I'm hoping either you or Ed can offer me a bit of assistance. I sent you an email, as it's not something I'm prepared to share with everyone quite yet. I'd really appreciate it if you could pass the email on to Ed, and/or if you can help me out on it.

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Hi, all. This time, Ed favours us with replies to a raft of questions (and responses to earlier Ed replies) from Zandilar, from March and June of this year. He chose to interleave his responses, so the quotation marks are Zandilar, and double square brackets are Ed. I’ve chopped this in half due to length, and will post the rest on the morrow.

“Ah, that makes things much clearer. So basically Alusair knows nearly everything [about Vangey’s spells to keep her from conceiving as a teen], and has probably guessed at the rest. *nods* Why, then, hasn't she asked any questions to ascertain whether or not the spell(s) has faded/failed/been removed? That would seem logical, especially if she's not yet ready to stop being promiscuous (and I don't mean anything negative with that word).”

[[She has, indirectly, of her mother Filfaeril and of Laspeera, getting both of them to magically check her (Fee via outside Harper mages, Laspeera directly). She neither wants to ask Vangey nor trusts any answer he may give her. This has occurred ‘offstage’ in published Realmslore, of course (I say ‘of course’ due to the subject matter), and she remains suspicious of Vangey, recognizing that he’ll do ANYTHING and sacrifice ANYONE (including himself, as we saw in EL’S D) for the strengthening and survival of the realm. She sees that this very much includes her, and she hates being anyone’s pawn.]]

“There are lots of reasons why I think Cormyr is a patriarchy... Mostly to do with it being a patrilineally emphasised primogeniture (hence why Alusair having a bastard child is less acceptable than Azoun, since you KNOW the mother, but not the father - and KNOWING the father seem MORE important than KNOWING the mother!). Inheritance definitely favours males in Cormyr. That's why I see Cormyr, particularly the nobility, as patriarchal.”

[[Correct: the nobles are VERY patriarchal. The heralds are not, and the ‘-ahast’ guiding mages do or support whatever is best for the realm at the time (e.g. the weak male king abdicating in favour of his stronger sister). The patriarchal bent has APPEARED stronger in recent years due to the personalities involved, Vangey and the philandering Azoun in particular, but legally the various churches, the heralds, the law of the realm, and the regulatory administration of the Royal Court scribes (bureaucrats) has been balanced, in terms of gender, when it comes to lineage, inheritance, legitimacy, and status.]]

“Quick question to start with: Is there divorce in Cormyr? Or are two people, especially nobles, who find themselves not in love anymore (or in the case of an arranged marriage - in a situation untenable to both) expected to stay together once married? I was under the impression that marriage was variable from "one night only" to "one year and a day" to "as long as love lasts" to "while this vase remains whole" to "forever."”

[[There are ‘annulments’ in Cormyr (yes, these are divorces), for specific reasons recognized by various churches, and for a few state legal reasons (usually involving deception involving shapechangers, etc.). There are NOT divorces in the modern real-world “I got tired of my partner, so we’ll file on the grounds of mutual incompatability or whatever” sense. And it’s VERY hard for royalty or nobility to get annulments, which is why unwanted spouses tend to get murdered in ‘accidents.’ For most Cormyreans, marriage is until death, after a trial year-and-a-day handfasting, with fourteen summers of a spouse being absent automatically being considered “death,” if the abandoned spouse petitions before a magister for this consideration - - even if “everybody knows” the missing spouse ran off to Sembia and is quite openly living with someone else. By the way, there’s no society-wide stigma to living with someone else (regardless of gender), married or unmarried, although various faiths and particular families may well disapprove. As a result, a lot of commoners never marry. Such a couple CAN own property jointly, without being married, just as mercantile business partners do.]]

“And to respond to the quote: Yes, they are a serious problem to succession, if it mattered who the father was (which is only the case when the male is the sole determining factor of the royal bloodline, which it's not in Cormyr - otherwise the first female Orbarskyran ruler of Cormyr would have been the last Orbarskyran ruler of Cormyr, since the throne would have shifted to her husband's line! This, of course, is an exception to the male favoring inheritance rules of Cormyr's nobility). In the case of Alusair, it would be blindingly obvious that the child was hers (and she'd be the one carrying/passing on the line in this case), simply because the physiological changes a female body undergoes throughout the process of pregnancy are hard to hide! (It could be done magically, but why?) Simply put, the child would obviously be an Obarskyr.
Likewise, it's easy to accuse a male of being a child's father... But there's no proof. A blue eyed male who was about the right age could be presented as a Son of Azoun IV, without it actually being true. That is the why bastards present a threat, because there will always be pretenders to the throne... Except, of course, that this is a magical world, and there are magical ways to prove or disprove the parentage. So pretenders would be less common (though probably more common than the circumstances would make us think, since there's also countermagic and the like).
If it *really* mattered who the father was, why wasn't Azoun IV's eldest male bastard even in the running against Azoun V? Or why wasn't Alusair the more legitimate heir?
To expand on that: Tanalasta's marriage to Rowan was only witnessed by Chauntea herself - what proof is there to everyone else that the child is not a bastard? Certainly the Chaunteans would say he was legitimate (since their divinations could prove it for themselves), but some nobles would point to the Chaunteans "political aspirations" (imagined or supposed from Tanalasta's public (but refused) gift of Chauntean priests to her father) and say that they had an agenda (maybe to make Chauntea the state religion) in saying that Azoun V was a legitimate son. Also, surely people who hated (or even just mildly disliked) the Cormaerils would have protested Tanalasta's son becoming the next king! And oooh I can only imagine the backlash/outcry if Rowan was ever revealed as a Ghazneth! An elder bastard son might be the perfect thing to hold up as an alternative (except, of course, people would laugh because Azoun IV had so many of them!)... And surely some would have (or are still) pressed (pressing) Alusair herself as an alternative to the "bastard son of a Cormaeril"?
I suppose some of these things are "behind the scenes" things... Things that have been happening off the page, so to speak. I suppose not all gamers are as interested in the intricate intrigues that surely plague the Throne of the Purple Dragon. To me, what's in print seems to be "Oh, Tanalasta had a son, he's the heir, and that's that!"”

[[I quite agree that what ended up in print did indeed seem to be: “Oh, Tanalasta had a son, he's the heir, and that's that!” - - much too pat, much too short, and not properly explored onstage. Again, that’s largely due to the subject matter; TSR and now WotC just don’t want their books to focus overmuch on who beds who, rules of inheritance and legitimacy, and so on. I agree that there would be a HUGE backlash if Rowan was ever revealed as a Ghazneth.
I agree with all you say about the discontent with Azoun V’s legitimacy, and it does exist as behind-closed-doors mutterings in some houses. It isn’t open, public, widespread, or lasting because of two factors:
1. The general populace desperately WANTS the reassurance of “an Azoun on the throne,” and so are VERY willing to accept Azoun V.
2. In order to prove (in the face of immediate accusations) to the Cormyrean leaders of other faiths that they were NOT making a play for power (state religion status or just “power behind the throne”), the senior clergy of Chauntea invited, and allowed, Harper mages and Vangey and said Cormyrean leaders of other faiths to “watch” the testimony of Chauntea from their memories, and see it for themselves. They then turned right around and prayed to THEIR gods for confirmation that what they saw was “truth” and not a deception of mortals by Chauntea - - and received it (presumably those deities checked with Chauntea directly). You see, there are rules that all of the lawful and the good deities play by, in mortal politics, because they all “stand and fall” by the results. Only crazy deities like Cyric try to kick over the whole agreement - - and that very disregard for common consequences is why they’re viewed as mad.]]



So saith Ed, and that’s enough for one post. More next time.
love to all,
THO
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Dear Ed and Lady THO,

I can see white puffy clouds casting shadows over the green, sunny hills of Waterdeep. Thank you !
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Oh Great Greenwood, I have a new query for you. An old Dragon Magazine (I was told about it, and actually don't own the issue myself) mentions that the deity of Snow Elves is worshipped in the Realms, and that there may or may not be Snow Elves in the upper reaches of the Anauroch, and points north. Can you shed any light on this matter?

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Originally posted by Dagnirion

Oh Great Greenwood, I have a new query for you. An old Dragon Magazine (I was told about it, and actually don't own the issue myself) mentions that the deity of Snow Elves is worshipped in the Realms, and that there may or may not be Snow Elves in the upper reaches of the Anauroch, and points north. Can you shed any light on this matter?



I found an article on snow elves in Dragon 155... 'Tis called "In the Ice and the Snow", and is by David S. Reimer. A quick scan of the article doesn't show any Realms connection; they are described as a Greyhawk race. Their deity is Tarsellis Meunniduin, but that's not a name I recall ever seeing elsewhere. Admittedly, it's been a while since I perused the Anauroch tome. I'll dig that out in a minute.

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