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MaskedOne
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Posted - 14 Nov 2006 :  15:31:18  Show Profile Send MaskedOne a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello again, fellow scribes. Ed herewith makes reply to MaskedOne’s recent “semi-related questions,” to whit: “What would probably have occurred if the Karsus Avatar spell had been permitted to reach completion rather than Mystril suiciding to counter-act it?
What did Mystril believe would occur if the spell was permitted to go on?”
Dagnirion posted a suggestion, but Ed’s reply differs:



Ascension to godhood under those circumstances would have stolen power from all of the gods (to achieve the ascension and make Karsus a god, and to give him divine power), in a surge that Mystril was very much afraid (and probably rightly) that Karsus would have been unable to handle, mentally and physically, so he’d have promptly been ruined and the magic would have “surged” back and forth around Toril, doing great damage and spawning many wild magic “storms.”
She was also afraid that if Karsus succeeded in any way (survived, no matter how damaged), all of the other Netherese archwizards would have tried it too - - and collectively torn the fabric of the Prime Material asunder, destroying Realmspace and everything in it, or at least twisting it beyond all recognition and smashing all life cycles and ecosystems, dooming uncounted millions of living things to slow extinction. And all so one demonstrably proud, foolish, and cruel madman could have the shining toy he wanted, but couldn’t understand.



So saith Ed. Who after all, knows more about all of this than anyone else.
love to all,
THO




Thanks, its good to have a clear idea why she'd pull what she expected to be a permanent suicide as a response to that spell. Guesswork was beginning to get a little interesting.
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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 :  04:44:50  Show Profile  Send Lord Karsus an AOL message Send Lord Karsus a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One
Dagnirion posted a suggestion, but Ed’s reply differs:



-I'm just very pro-Karsus, that's all.

(A Tri-Partite Arcanist Who Has Forgotten More Than Most Will Ever Know)

Elves of Faerûn
Vol I- The Elves of Faerûn
Vol. III- Spells of the Elves
Vol. VI- Mechanical Compendium
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RodOdom
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 :  05:37:41  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message
Amazon has the hardcover up for pre-order. It doesn't list a release date. However, under the publisher information :

"Publisher: Margaret Weis Productions (November 2006)"
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Besshalar
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 :  14:30:09  Show Profile  Visit Besshalar's Homepage  Click to see Besshalar's MSN Messenger address Send Besshalar a Private Message
Dear Ed ,

I was wondering about the availability of printing presses and exactly how advanced they are in the realms ? Also any price guidelines would be nice. I am thinking of starting a realmsian "proper" newspaper. Something to deliver to the breakfast tables of the public.

The large print giveth , and the small print taketh away.
-Tom Waits
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Greetings to Ed and THO from the soggy PNW.

Another food related question from me. How common are pasta/pasta-like dishes in the Realms? I haven't come across any references to it in my researches, so thought I would ask here. If there are, how are they served? With sauces, in soups, casseroles, etc.? Any lore that you wish to impart on this subject would be wonderful!

Thanks,
~Kes

Ack! I seem to have too much blood in my coffee stream!

When did 'common sense' cease to be common?
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 :  17:30:17  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Besshalar

Dear Ed ,

I was wondering about the availability of printing presses and exactly how advanced they are in the realms ? Also any price guidelines would be nice. I am thinking of starting a realmsian "proper" newspaper. Something to deliver to the breakfast tables of the public.



http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/archfr/rl

Specifically the Broadcryers of Waterdeep articles and the Small Presses articles.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Besshalar
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 :  17:35:19  Show Profile  Visit Besshalar's Homepage  Click to see Besshalar's MSN Messenger address Send Besshalar a Private Message
Thanks Kuje . Should have known that a man with over 50,000 books would have tackled this issue already

The large print giveth , and the small print taketh away.
-Tom Waits
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createvmind
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 :  20:19:12  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
I Was wondering how with all the trade and magic freeways and such what creatures have gone extinct winthin the past hundred years in Faerun. I assume that various lifeforms are displaced or discarded about the land/underdark and surely must have an impact by displacing other lifeforms. Is it the duty of Druids and Rangers to keep such things in check?

For instance the Ka'ursa (bestairy of the Realms, Volume 2, pg100) litter is taken to be sold and domesticated, plan goes kaput and the young Ka'ursa are released into nearby plains, or worse a little traveled area. These predators would wreak havoc or would they be absorbed into that ecosystem as the prey and lower predators learned to adjust and avoid them. Basically has what occured in America with these land-hopping killer fish occured in Faerun say within past hundred years?
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 :  21:17:38  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. This time, Ed answers GoCeraf, re. this: “Hello Mr. Greenwood. I've been toying around with writing as of late, and I've been wondering what sort of process one has to go through to have FR related novels published. Although I don't consider myself to be anything of an expert in this area, I think it would be very fulfilling to have work done in such a well-traveled area of literature. Thanks, GoCeraf”
Ed replies:



Wooly Rupert put it very well. I’m afraid Wizards doesn’t accept unsolicited Realms novels. I echo what Wooly said: write fantasy short stories for DRAGON, REALMS OF FANTASY, and BLACK GATE, contact Phil Athans (of the Wizards Book Department; see the WotC website) and tell him you’re interested in writing Realms short stories for the next Realms anthology that comes along, have prose samples e-ready to send him (IF he asks for them; don’t start hurling files at him without his invitation), and keep on reminding him of your interest, every 6 or 8 months or so. In a polite, friendly, non-pushy way. Prepare a short list of plot concepts you think would make good Realms novels AND fit the direction of the current novels series; each concept should be a maximum of three sentences long, and don’t build any of them around well-established Realms characters being the lead characters.
Here’s an example that you should NOT use, just to show you how brief I mean: “One-shot novel: Sembia invades Cormyr with mercenaries, Sembian envoys deny it’s anything to do with Sembia as a country waging war on anyone and say they’re as surprised by the attacks as anyone else, and as skirmishes in the Hullack and Thunder Peaks drag on, the book centers on a trio of new-character Highknights, sent undercover into Sembia to find out who hired the mercenaries, why, and how they can be persuaded to stop.”
Please remember, that’s very much Step Four. Step One is write some fantasy short stories, Step Two is get them published, and Step Three is contact the Books Department, wave your published fantasy fiction as samples of your writing, and express your interest in writing in the Realms. Good luck. I always want to see new faces at the ongoing revelry that is Realmslore talespinning.



So saith Ed. Go for it, GoCeraf and all interested Realms scribes - - and DON’T be discouraged. Ed’s been chatting privately with at two fans I know of for years, encouraging them to try to get their Realms tales into print.
P.S. Good questions, scribes! Keep them coming!
love to all,
THO
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Blueblade
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Posted - 15 Nov 2006 :  23:54:33  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Another question for Ed's ever-expanding sack of Questions About Realmslore Candlekeep Scribes Just Gotta Know:

Can you give us any hint of the current doings and whereabouts of Narm (from SHANDRIL'S SAGA) and of Narnra (ELMINSTER'S DAUGHTER)? Or are these NDA?
Thanks,
BB
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 16 Nov 2006 :  01:12:55  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, fellow scribes. This time Ed responds swiftly to The Sage: “Now, recalling what few tidbits we've been told about "specific" chapbooks previously in the Realmslore, and through some of your earlier replies here at Candlekeep -- like the chapbooks dealing with social and court life in Suzail... I was wondering whether you could provide me with a brief synopsis of two-or-three other "city-specific" chapbooks that may be in circulation in two-or-three other well-populated cities throughout the Realms. In other words... chapbooks other than those that have already been mentioned both here and in existing Realmslore.”
Ed replies:



With pleasure! I can’t remember which of the many “city newspaper” -equivalent chapbooks (as opposed to broadsheets) I’ve mentioned in print, so I may occasionally duplicate something you’ve read elsewhere.
NEVERWINTER NIGHTS is a perfect example of the sort of chapbook I was specifically describing: something published regularly covering local culture and high society. NIGHTS is published every six days to a tenday (with rare “special issues” to cover really exciting news or sudden events), and is a short magazine full of gossip, reviews of local musical, theatrical, and oratical performances, and news of forthcoming events (such as tours by visiting musicians, eateries about to open, books soon to be published) and events of cultural interest (e.g. a ruler bans something, artists feud or marry or announce a collaboration, or something interesting happens to an artist [from a murder or pregnancy to a drinking bout or the utterance of a bon mot]). Some such chapbooks last for decades, but many rise and fall abruptly with changing public mood or moves to silence them by harrassing the writers or threatening the printers.

Here are a few such publications, by city:

ALAGHÔN: Hambra’s Horncall (a dignified, neutral publication that is less a critical review and more of a series of what we would call press releases and culturally-relevant public service announcements; [correctly] suspected locally of being used by several shady groups to send out coded messages to their members through mock announcements)
ATHKATLA: Gaela’s Glittersar
BERDUSK: The Twilight Tome (long-established; famous for sly satiric poetry, often features lyrics and short fiction)
ELTUREL: Stars Seen, Tales Told (usually short, with more glowing praise than hard news or nastiness, but prints letters from locals that occasionally erupt into nasty in-print fights)
EVERLUND: Hawkblade’s Evenhorn (lighthearted, no-holds-barred, and witty commentary on local events and luminaries, with occasional reviews of what’s new or current gossip in nearby Silverymoon; Hawkblade is a onetime lover of Alustriel who pines for her, but prints everything he gets concerning her beauty, what she wore or said at every occasion, and even detailed accounts of her current lovemaking [some of which MUST be fictional, and are probably his own wishful-writing])
HILLSFAR: Beldrouk’s Bright Banners (very new, but rapidly gaining a strong local following because of its frank commentary - - which has made its anonymous authors folk hunted by the authorities; no one quite knows who prints it, but bundles of it get substituted for legitimate supplies bought at the docks, so merchants pay for it in bulk and then usually sell it to brothel- and tavern-keepers, to resell to clients)
IRIAEBOR: Malanxer’s Tongue (known locally as “the Black Tongue” or just “the Black,” as in: “He’s in the Black, this time around;” known for rants against local public figures, corrupt officials, and less than scrupulous merchants)
RIATAVIN: Dansarra’s Delights (Dansarra was a local dancer and prostitute who died, rose as undead without any intent or preparation of her own part, and went on dancing despite her body being less than appealing; though she long since fell to dust, the writers of this vicious chapbook adopt her voice and purport to be Dansarra as they gleefully skewer local eateries, plays, and public figures)
SCORNUBEL: Sarander’s Tellings (famous for gossip, and lovingly-detailed salacious accounts of dalliances and pratfalls of locally prominent folk, that often approach “you are there” porn)
SECOMBER: The Dancing Dwarf (whimsical, features witty gossip and biting satirical pieces, includes lots of mocking commentary on Waterdeep that goes farther than Waterdhavians would dare to, when ridiculing guildmasters and nobles - - and so is steadily gaining popularity in Waterdeep, where it’s bought and sold surreptitiously in Dock Ward festhalls and taverns)
WESTGATE: Ambritur’s Whip (anonymously-authored “hatchet job” reviews and gossip avidly read locally for the eloquently nasty writing more than as any sort of serious guide to anything)



So saith Ed, presenting another bright platter of Realmslore for us all.
love,
THO
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 16 Nov 2006 :  01:18:27  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, all!
As you may have heard, Ed's off to Ann Arbor for U-Con, which sounds like it's shaping up to be a dynamite "small local" convention. As a result, he'll be falling e-silent until Tuesday, so I will also take a short vacation (no, I'm not going with Ed, or Stateside at all).
However, PLEASE keep posting questions, and I'll replay them to him the moment he's back.
Mindful of this imminent drearth of Realmslore, Ed surprised me by sending ANOTHER lore reply, hot on the heels of the one I just posted. So here, without further ado . . .

Ed says he was delighted to receive this recent post from Chosen of Moradin: “Hello Ed and dear THO, Three of my female players want to know a little more about dresses, clothes, and how much a rich adventurer will have to pay to stay attuned with the latest "noble fashion" in Waterdeep or Silverymoon. The PHB says that a royal vestment will cost 200 gp, but I think that some rich adventurers can spare something more to stay "at the best!" We already know that in Hethmeir´s Highboots, in Everlund, they can pay 1,000 gp on a pair of boots (Volo´s Guide to the North). To complement, we are talking about a New Olamm bard, a Shadow Thieves rogue, and an Everlundian sorceress, all in the Silver Marches.”
Ed now replies:



GREAT question! To begin, let me say that fashion in Silverymoon is far more a “do your own thing, care nothing for others” affair than in Waterdeep. Both cities see constant new styles and reintroduction of older styles, and have a tolerant, cosmopolitan, sophisticated local population that sees almost constant visiting outlanders except in the harshest winter months. Both places are wealthy. All of which means both have healthy, everchanging local “fashion scenes,” far more so than in most other places in the Realms (large trading centers will always be the most “fashion-lively,” but in some places, such as Athkatla, that’s tempered by a strong local preference for something; in the case of Athkatla, demonstrating one’s wealth is paramount).
In Silverymoon, newcomers wanting to be noticed in society and individuals desiring to raise their social profile and influence in politics are usually the most fashion-conscious.
In Waterdeep, many nobles use fashion to divide themselves from commoners (and younger or ‘black sheep’ nobles use fashion to rebel or make a statement), whereas the wealthiest wannabe-noble merchants try to dress like the nobles, and most guildmasters and wealthy DON’T-wannabe-noble merchants adopt expensive but clearly different fashions, to show they’re “as good as, or better than nobles, and certainly don’t want to be nobles or mistaken for nobles.”
Right. Stage set. Now, on to specifics for females. The impression one is trying to impart is of course paramount (REALLY rich, or beyond-caring-about-coin rich, or conservative, or I’m an adventurer above all this “society” nonsense, or I’m the special guest wanting to stand out or surpass everyone, or I belong here) is usually the dominant factor in deciding what to wear.
The cheapest way to dress is the conservative look: basic black gown with high collar and/or plunge front, matching sash and boots, and a few pieces of small, tasteful jewelry (moonstone or pearl earrings and perhaps a pendant and/or finger ring). Some adventurers have, or can borrow, or can buy secondhand, all of these very cheaply. (This is the Realms equivalent of the “little black dress.”) Truly wealthy nobles have their own seamstresses, and go to the best designers, to achieve the same look for as much as 4,000 gp (plus the cost of the jewels). Most women wealthy enough to “buy new, in a hurry” can put together the same look, jewelry included, for 150 gp (50 gp/boots, 80 or so for an off-the-peg gown and sash, and the rest for jewels), IF they’re a fairly standard size (if your hips are literally four feet across, NOTHING off the peg is ever going to fit you). Almost all “new” clothiers in either city are used to doing small on-the-spot alterations to make a sale.
Someone shopping a secondhand shop, who gets lucky on finding something unsoiled, untorn, and more or less their size, who can touch up scuffed boots and wash everything, could put together the same ensemble for about 65 gp (25 gp/boots, 20 or less for the gown, and 20 gp for earrings).
The conservative look is never “out of fashion” except among a wild revelry gathering of the rebellious young, and even there it can be “dressed down” by exchanging the black sash for a flame-orange one, pinning the gown (to the inside of the sash) half-open to expose skin or a racy chemise (lace-trimmed white silk for classy look, almost anything to present other images) and jewelry (such as nipple clamps with tassels, and a gem set in the navel).
MOST well-to-do shopkeeper’s wives in both cities have the following:
* The “black look” discussed above, plus a matching cape and cap (for funerals, solemn ceremonies, and “not sure what to wear but sure don’t want to offend” feasts and meetings with nobles or social superiors).
* At least three evening gowns (ankle length), of varying degrees of daring (plunge front and/or back, cutouts, or none) and various hues, usually at least one bright red. These are for guild dinners, meals and moots with social equals (and the more of these latter they attend, the more often they’ll buy new gowns to add into the mix, so those who see them often will know they’re wealthy enough to buy a gown whenever the mood strikes them). Endless accessories (hats, purses, belts, baldrics, garters, chemises, chathra [ = petticoats; the Realms term implies trimmed so as to be partially seen], furs [usually “wraps” that are draped artistically], underthings [see Page 21 of my 2004 replies, here at Candlekeep] and jewels) are mixed and swapped with these to create different looks.
* A wild costume, or two, for costume balls and really daring revelry (masks are ALWAYS a feature of these, but they range from piratical garb to strap-on gossamer silk “fairy wings” to strap-on furry or scaled serpentine tails, and so on; by daring revelry I mean feasts and other gatherings where sexual activity or at least physical flirtation is expected; Waterdhavian matrons of a certain age often refer to these as “one of my plough-me-please outfits”).
* At least one VERY expensive and dramatic gown by a famous local designer, that will pass for being “in fashion” with the latest tastes. These can be almost anything, will come with full matching accessories (e.g. face-veils and/or half-cloaks), and tend to get “put away” in a wardrobe for a decade until they’re in fashion again. “Dramatic” is the key word here: many of these gowns have shoulder fins, daring cutouts, and impractical trimmings.
The northernmost four wards of Waterdeep bristle with shops selling overpriced clothing and footwear; personally-designed gowns (involving a “name” designer and usually many “fittings” [fitting sessions where the wearer is measured, muslin mockups and later the gowns themselves are pinned on to them, cut, and re-pinned]) can easily cost 6,000 gp each for a really rich noble and 2,000 for someone wealthy (many designers set their prices according to a client’s ability to pay, but are utterly uninterested in taking on poor clients unless they fall in love with them or are discharging a debt). Most “good” shops sell and alter close copies of the less outrageous designer gowns, and “classic” garments, for 400 gp up to 1,200 gp. Off-the-peg garments at the “less glittering shops” can often serve very well, and can be had for 80 gp up to 600 gp at most, with the majority of gowns running around 100 gp.
One recurring “fashion fallback” is to wear a simple, cheap gown, and a very “showy” trimmed slip or chemise (made for someone larger) OVER it, with a sash or belt of contrasting hue to “bind the whole look together.” Such showy undergarments cost a maximum of about 80 gp (unless custom-made), and even the classiest sash or belt is seldom more than 40 gp.
A bard may well want clothing she can most elegantly perform in; a rogue (or for that matter, all three characters, depending on what adventures they intend to get up to) often wants a dark gown that can be shed swiftly and easily, and wadded up and stuffed somewhere without being lastingly wrinkled or harmed; and a sorceress may (or may not!) want an outfit that looks mystical and darkly impressive.
I hope this reply is of some help; even without mentioning scents and cosmetics, this is a vast topic that sourcebooks often neglect, and players can have hours of fun with.



So saith Ed, who once solemnly painted my nipples with cherry chocolate for a post-Realmsplay-session party. Two other someones got there faster to lick them clean, however.
love to all,
THO
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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Besshalar

Dear Ed ,

I was wondering about the availability of printing presses and exactly how advanced they are in the realms ? Also any price guidelines would be nice. I am thinking of starting a realmsian "proper" newspaper. Something to deliver to the breakfast tables of the public.



http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/archfr/rl

Specifically the Broadcryers of Waterdeep articles and the Small Presses articles.

Ed also (briefly) touches on printing presses in Lantan (and elsewhere in the Realms) in his '04 replies.

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You know Lady THO, I truly wonder sometimes if these are accurate events, or just wishes for a white bearded man ;)

Fantasy or Reality...

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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Hello again, fellow scribes. This time Ed responds swiftly to The Sage:
Ed... That's awesome. Seriously.

As always, you and THO have my thanks.

quote:
So saith Ed, presenting another bright platter of Realmslore for us all.
love,
THO
Indeed.

I'm sure I'll be "sampling" from this particular selection for the next several months.

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The Hooded One
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Neriandal Freit, you've gotta believe.
Like the song says, "But it wouldn't be make-believe/If you'd believe in me."
Ed's mild in behavior compared to SOME of the guys (and gals) I grew up with in the Sixties. The time of nudity, free love, hippies, communes, no AIDS, Playboy and the "swinger" lifestyle, and so on. Myself: I'm a tease.
As you (cough) just may have noticed.
I'm sure Ed's fantasies only involve white-bearded men once a year: on Christmas Eve. (Oh, by the way: don't miss the forthcoming movie Hogfather, in which one of the white-bearded men is Terry Pratchett himself.)
And just to give you a Realms tidbit in all of this: Torm once befriended a pleasure-lass in Waterdeep who went by the name of Cinammon, because of what she put on HER nipples.
So there.
love,
THO
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Myself: I'm a tease.
Really?

quote:
And just to give you a Realms tidbit in all of this: Torm once befriended a pleasure-lass in Waterdeep who went by the name of Cinammon, because of what she put on HER nipples.
So there.
love,
THO
Oh, that's simply too delicious to ignore for future roleplaying use in a campaign!

As it happens... the Lady K loves cinammon (and so do I but that's beside the point ). We appreciate this little insight, my lovely lady Hooded One.

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Chosen of Moradin
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Thanks to Ed and THO for the awesome info.

I know that my players will love this information.

Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P

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Hail Master Greenwoord and Lady THO,

I bring forth a scroll with a few questions about the rumored Warlock class for thee.

"I'm curious to know what, if any, examples of warlocks have been cropping up in FR canon, and if it is generally seen as a reasonable adventuring class. Is it another "They were there all along, do not ask questions" thing, like when sorcerers appeared as a class? Someone mentioned a reference for a FR tiefling fighter/warlock, whose warlock powers were pretty minor, I think?

Since Warlocks gain their power from pacts or bloodlines with demons, are they subject to terms of these arrangements? Could they be expected to be held to oaths and such? I'd thought contractual agreements were more the realm of Devils than Demons, so I'm interested to hear thoughts on them from a RP/sourcebook/canon perspective, or at least musings as to how non-FR material on them (Complete Arcane?) might mesh with existing FR canon. Would they tend to be faithless? How would they be viewed by the churches of Mystra, Azuth, Talos, or Shar? Would they be rarer than sorcerii, or more common?
I'd like at least to try to get a handle on how they should be viewed by the larger world: peasantry, scholars, etc.

Would they be subject to the whims of their patron, in the same way that clerics may be should they act out of line with their dieties' dogma? Are their souls taken by their patrons on death, and if so, does it affect their ability to take a rez?

Since their patrons are by description chaotic, does that mean they do not know or care how the powers are used? If the powers are bargained for, what does the demon gain in return, as motivation/justification?

I've heard it mentioned that they can be counterspelled, and lose abilities in a magic-dead zone, so are their eldrich abilities necessarily Weave magic? Do repeated uses of their powers exhaust them in any way, or are they to be considered effortless, as well as limitless?

Does SR resist Eldritch bolts and effects?

The concept of a warlock who uses their powers to thwart the Outsider by whom they were granted raises interesting issues as well- can the bount patron remove/withhold the warlock's abilities? What happens when/if the Outsider who granted the abilities is killed?"

Many thanks for reading.

~Blackwill
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Karth
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Quick one for Ed (if he's willing) or THO (if she already knows): Sayings and catchphrases for priests of Tempus; particularly their equivalent of 'Amen' or 'So mote it be' for prayers and public invocations before an audience.

Willing to be pointed in the right direction, if I missed an already-published answer.

Much obliged,

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Originally posted by Karth

Quick one for Ed (if he's willing) or THO (if she already knows): Sayings and catchphrases for priests of Tempus; particularly their equivalent of 'Amen' or 'So mote it be' for prayers and public invocations before an audience.

Willing to be pointed in the right direction, if I missed an already-published answer.

Much obliged,

-Karth



There is Ed's April 12th 2004 reply about the oaths of Tempus. That might be of some interest for you.

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Thanks Kuje . Should have known that a man with over 50,000 books would have tackled this issue already



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“What would probably have occurred if the Karsus Avatar spell had been permitted to reach completion rather than Mystril suiciding to counter-act it?
What did Mystril believe would occur if the spell was permitted to go on?”
Dagnirion posted a suggestion, but Ed’s reply differs:
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And all so one demonstrably proud, foolish, and cruel madman could have the shining toy he wanted, but couldn’t understand.


So saith Ed. Who after all, knows more about all of this than anyone else.
love to all,
THO




If so said Ed, it must be true... I always thinked about Karsus as, probably, unwise, overproud, desperate to save Netheril from phaerimms... But cruel madman... The truth is sometimes sad, but it's better then mistakes...
And then I have a question to Ed, and I hope the answer to it won't take too long, because it is a simple one:
What the Ed, himself, can say of Ioulaum?
What kind of man was (and is, according to Lost Empires of Faerun) he?

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There is Ed's April 12th 2004 reply about the oaths of Tempus. That might be of some interest for you.



Thanks Kuje. I'll have a look.

-Karth
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