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HunterOfStorms
Seeker

Australia
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  04:50:56  Show Profile  Visit HunterOfStorms's Homepage Send HunterOfStorms a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ddporter

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

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Originally posted by HunterOfStorms

...For example are there any gems/minerals which are considered particularly lucky, potent or sacred by the clergy as relating to their own god specifically...


Faiths & Avatars by Julia Martin and Eric Boyd notes what gemstones are used by deities to pass on their 'favor'. See the individual deity write-ups.

-- George Krashos



A web enhancement found here http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/we/20020504a has more info.



Thanks ddporter, the last few pages of the Faiths and Pantheons web enhancement covers what I'm after.
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RodOdom
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 :  04:55:47  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message
Dear Ed and Lady THO,

The Realms is criss-crossed by immense spans of roads and trails. At night when people retire from travelling do roads serve land-bound monsters? Do roads connect monster populations in a significant way? Would a goblin in the Vast Swamp be able to direct a lost traveller to Suzail? (assuming the goblin is in an unusually civil mood.)

Edited by - RodOdom on 18 Jul 2006 04:59:14
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Alaundo
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Well met

Ahhh, found this scroll floating around the corridors...

quote:
Originally posted by EricKRod

Mr. Greenwood,

I was just wondering what your original intentions were with this dale that had been destroyed so long ago. Was the Dusklord really evil and consorting with demons? Or were the other dales feeling threatned?

I had planned in my FR campaign world to have a very powerful Paladin of Lathander, who claimed a tie to the bloodline of the Dusklord, to return to the dale at the head of an army of followers and priests of Lathander and Chauntea. His goal is to start a new begining by naming the land 'Dawndale' and reseeding the ground with the aid of the priests of Chauntea. At the North end of the dale he will place a keep, run by his cousin a priest of Lathander. At the south end of the dale, near the woods edge, his other cousin, a powerful Ranger, will be in charge.

Not knowing enough of the background behind the Dusklord, I was wondering if you could enlighten me?

Thanks,

Eric in Vegas

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Chosen of Moradin
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Dear Hooded Lady, and valorous Ed of the Green Wood. I´m here now, bringing a question of one of my players, the noble druid Pavel Uthlain, of the Circle of Leth (yes, a Uthlain druid... things´re staying weird in the Dale...)

How exactly is the flora and fauna of the Great Dale? What trees, herbs, mammals, predators, birds, flowers, and the like, someone could find in this region? There is some specific lore about plants with medicinal atributes there?

Thanks in advance...

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DMJutti
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Hey Ed, I have a chosen of Talona in my campaign that ive been playing for about 4 years now. After long toiling with visions from his god and retrieving components and more power he is finally ready to unleash a disease rain upon Waterdeep. I dont want this to be too easy of a thing to do and i definitely want consequences to lead to further intrigue perhaps including some of the more famous character known to dwell in waterdeep whose attention my PC might attract. Can you give me some of the possible consequences of doing something like that and maybe some ideas on what certain characters would do (Khelben, Piergeiron??)Thanks
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 19 Jul 2006 :  02:15:09  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Scribe Chyron asked: “Do bards serve as the top critics as well as creators? For example who in the realms would be among the most notable Drama, Music, and Food critics (The ones nobles and common folk alike might bend an ear to)? Would these be other Bards due to their wide variety of knowledge or is the domain of ‘criticism’ left to others (sages, or scholars, etc)?
Is the ‘best’* food imbued with magic? Are the Julia Childs, Jamie Olivers of the realms required to be dabblers (i.e. Bards or other casters) to be considered among the top artisans of feasting fare? Is this something that is only reserved for/accessible to the nobles?
(*Best being subjective I know…but I wonder if nobles might see ‘enchanted’ food as being above standard or even rare edible fare as the enchantment might make it more pricey and exclusive).
My thanks and good eating to you both :)
Ed replies:



Many bards, priests, and sages do act as critics, but in rural areas of the Realms, most folk pay attention to the opinions of particular local “elders,” and in cities, various “high society” types set themselves up as esthetes and are either jeered out of acting thus, or heeded. So there are “notable” critics only in the local sense, and endless war between various noble “aging aunts and uncles” who speak out, in cities; the trend-setters among the younger generations (who of course often disagree sharply with the “mossbrained” opinions and tastes of the “graybeards”) in those same cities; and travelers such as Volo (and, yes, bards and minstrels, but more often eloquent and successful merchants, who publish and sell chapbooks of their travel accounts and opinions, spreading “their judgments” of matters culinary and cultural.
So, no, bards don’t serve as top critics (except to “captive audiences” of students in academies they may be tutoring at).
And no, the best food is NOT imbued with magic, because of centuries of fear and abhorrence of magical tinkering with food (poisoning foes, transforming foes, or just tricking foes into eating dung, vomit, and glass shards, and other disgusting or harmful substances that were temporarily transformed into something more appetizing). Just about every society shunned magical meal preparations (except for specific and sharply limited tasks such as peeling and ingredient mixing), and so the prevailing attitude across the Realms now is admiration of cooking done without magic (though no one is going to cavil at someone who uses a spell to get drenched wood burning as a cooking-fire in a rainstorm, or thaws out frozen food in a blizzard).
However, your suspicion is correct: some nobles DO see “enchanted” food as being exclusive, rare, and special because it’s forbidden or frowned on, and pay wizards (and especially sorcerers who can work magic without a lot of obvious casting preparations) handsomely to prepare food magically at private feasts and revels. Of course, nobles who love such fare claim it has taste that “more mundane” food can never achieve.



So saith Ed. Who has certainly described some wild revels in Realmsplay, down the years, and (in censored, toned-down form) in more than a few short stories and novels set in the Realms, too.
love to all,
THO
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And let us not forget the spell Quimby's Enchanting Gourmet, from the old FRA...

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Asgetrion
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Posted - 19 Jul 2006 :  05:06:05  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by RodOdom

Dear Ed and Lady THO,

The Realms is criss-crossed by immense spans of roads and trails. At night when people retire from travelling do roads serve land-bound monsters? Do roads connect monster populations in a significant way? Would a goblin in the Vast Swamp be able to direct a lost traveller to Suzail? (assuming the goblin is in an unusually civil mood.)




I am definitely not Ed, but I would guess that humanoid monsters sometimes do use roads that are not regularly patrolled or do not have "heavy traffic" (frequent merchant caravans that have too many guards to take on, for example). On the other hand, if there is a possibility for a succesful ambush (lonely travellers, for example) they probably won't use the road, but stick to the woods or travel within eyesight of the road (or use scouts, if there is no "concealment").

I suspect a goblin would not even know the word 'Suzail', let alone know where it lies. Probably he would point at the direction of the nearest monster lair to that hapless traveller (I have been there, I know ;) The goblin would know the nearest human settlements, but hardly knew their names ("The one with a lot of soldiers", and so on), unless he had had some peaceful contact with humans previously. It might also have been possible that their tribe had prisoners who told this information.

"What am I doing today? Ask me tomorrow - I can be sure of giving you the right answer then."
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 19 Jul 2006 :  05:09:25  Show Profile  Click to see Purple Dragon Knight's MSN Messenger address Send Purple Dragon Knight a Private Message
I cannot be a French Canadian and remain unmoved by Ed's last gastronomic addition. My comments are in blue!! (like the fleur-de-lys, joualvert!)


Certainly. Elves have created and refined a huge variety of incredibly complicated “special feast dishes” (some involving cantrips that allow dry ingredients to be “breezed” [a human observer would probably describe this as ‘swirl-mixed’] in midair), so I’ll confine myself here just to a modest selection of plain ‘everyday’ fare. Please note that the drinking of wines is common with most meals,

So elves are really French people in disguise hey? hmm... I had my doubts, but I shall play them as such from then on!

both dry wines with the main fare and sweet dessert wines to finish - - and that (to elves; humans and halflings may find them potent indeed) most wines aren’t nearly as readily intoxicating as most human wines are, to humans.

Now I'm confused... they drink wine with their meals (i.e. French folks) but they can also STAND THEIR LIQUOR?!? (i.e. like Cape Breton girls?!?)

Quaffs/Slakes (non-alcoholic):
Sprucebark quaff (cleanses palate/freshens breath before meals and after)

Spruce Beer hey? wow! I 'could' tolerate the stuff, if sweetened enough... [read: if hedged out by a Magic Circle vs. Chaos] but who knew elvish mouth tissues could withstand such tonic action!

Mintwater
various berry-juice drinks (unfermented)

Vegetables (eaten raw, sometimes diced and fried with herbs and other vegetables):
Cress
Leek (also chives, hotwhips [spring onions], searshoots [wild Faerûnian vine onions]: these last are a staple of elven cuisine, and if left to dry until fall, can grow as hot as garlic, but never give elves “garlic breath”)

Well duh! if they keep swishing their mouth with that devilishly tart or perhaps bitter Spruce Beer, nothing can stick! It's a wonder if they don't suffer from oral acid burns!!!

Parsley
Coushoots (the green, growing “new” shoots of certain forest vines, such as Chokevine and Thaelthorn)
Greenspear (asparagus, a staple with many elves, both raw and steamed with herbs)

Oh!!! So that's why elves can still be tracked by scent! I get it! the Spruce Beer, the Asparagus, the Spruce Beer... THEN the smelly pee break!

various ferns, from fiddleheads to stewed broadleaves
Brownbuds (brown Faerûnian wild forest radishes)

Fruits:
Many sorts of berries
Rhubarb

They ARE French!!! that's my fave 'compote' (i.e. puree...) If made in a 'compote' (i.e. apple sauce style), Rhubarb is the BEST thing on EARTH or TORIL!!!!

Roseapple (a mild-flavored apple-like fruit that grows at the thorny junctures of a particular sort of forest vine, the “rosethorn,” that grows abundantly in the Heartlands)

Soups (usually served cold):
Leek
Turtle
Blalatha (certain mushrooms, diced and then boiled)

Now that's just funny!

Darblalatha (certain mushrooms, diced, then fried with leeks, and then the mixed result is boiled)

LOTFLMAO!!!!!!!

Haendur (simmered glow worms, seasoned with particular sharp-tasting leaves)
Blackbark (literally, the stewed bark of four or five different sorts of forest bushes; tastes and looks a little like a thick beef stew)
Snake (four sorts, beheaded and then boiled until skins separate from flesh; skins, like heads, are discarded)

Meat and Fish Dishes (some elves eat flesh, some do not):
Seared Rabbit
Thaenwing (spiced-and-diced grouse, partridge, quail, and woodguth [wild turkey]; most elves are revolted at the thought of eating owls, whom they deem “intelligent souls,” and believe dining on raptors brings misfortune on oneself and one’s kin)
Silvereyes (fish stew, of silverflash and other small forest stream fish)
Sornstag (roasted hotspice [equivalent of curried] venison)
Surkyl (beaver: belly-slashed to insert leek and herbs, then rolled in clay and fire-baked, to remove hide and quills with hardened mud shell)
Hooroun (moose, always marinated with particular herbs to counteract the natural seasonal tastes of spruce in winter and spring [when moose have been eating evergreen tips] and swamp in summer and fall [when moose have been grazing on swamp vegetation])
Lulleth (muskrat and equivalents [from shrews and voles to “branchcats,” which are a tree-climbing Faerûnian cross between a mink and a raccoon], usually simmered into a thick stew; most elves dislike boar, but when they do eat it, treat it in this same way)
Groundsnake (beheaded and roasted on skewers over a fire)

OK: deer, moose, beaver and... MUSKRAT?!?! do you have Quebecer hicks as friends? if so, you're lucky, 'cause it's a dying breed that once held MUCH woodlands lore [pauses to dispel any remaining mirth, and takes a moment of silence to remember all the brave New France 'coureurs des bois' - i.e. 'runners of the woodlands' - who learned their skills with the various Indian tribes, and passed down their know-how to their sons, who settled farmlands but still had a bit of that hunter's/nature lover's gleam in their eyes, which helped fill their kid's plates with game meats when times were hard, or not!

Trail Food:
various nuts and dried berries
mintnut cheese
Taece (fire-dried tiny forest-stream fish, that look a little like brown, finger-length sardines, contain a lot of fat, and are “crunched” [eaten whole, bones and all])
Marruth (sometimes disparagingly called “root pies” by dwarves and humans): pastries into which cooked spiced and herbed mashes of vegetables have been baked, and then let cool, and then rolled into rallow leaves (heavy, oily, waterproof broadleaves) to keep them from rotting, and carried for eating cold when on the move

Desserts:
Mint jelly
tarts made of various berries, sweetened with a mash of berry juices



I could go on at length, but I’m afraid I haven’t the time just now to set down a lot of detailed recipes, so I hope this helps. Elven cuisine is more sophisticated than human, though it uses almost no non-forest ingredients, so if you have to improvise, look at some of the dishes whipped up on, say, IRON CHEF and think of “forest-friendly equivalent ways” of making some of them.


Aaaah... the true secret to French cooking. It's not to follow a recipe: it's to start with something, smell it, and "FEEL" it... then to add a little of this, a little of that... walk to the garden to cut a bit of this, and pluck a little of that... then to throw these things into the mix... then sprinkle a pinch of sugar on the mix (a pinch of sugar ALWAYS enhances something: don't let anyone tell you otherwise!) and taste, then keep adding, and keep stirring. Hey, I made my wife like tofu, which I didn't like, but now likes [thanks to one such experiment: try to pan-fry it with a generous amount of Bovril (tm) - i.e. a local Canadian 'beef broth concentrate' - it's AMAZING, and looks like strips of AAA sirloin steak... it fooled my 58 years old French father! (who hates tofu!)]
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George Krashos
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I've told my wife that there is no non-dessert foodstuff on this earth that can't be improved by being cooked or soaked in meat juices!

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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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George Krashos
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Quick question for Ed: Something that has been bugging me ever since the release of FR4 The Magister (yes, more than 15 years now - we lorelords of the Realms tend to do such things often) - is "Whisper's Rod of Transportation" linked in any way with Whisper of the Zhentarim (soon to be showcased in "Swords of Eveningstar", plug, plug)? If so, how could he make one given his lowly magical abilities as statted (not that stats count for much)?

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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Purple Dragon Knight
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

I've told my wife that there is no non-dessert foodstuff on this earth that can't be improved by being cooked or soaked in meat juices!
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RodOdom
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quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion
I am definitely not Ed, but I would guess that humanoid monsters sometimes do use roads that are not regularly patrolled or do not have "heavy traffic" (frequent merchant caravans that have too many guards to take on, for example).


But are even the most busy roads used and patrolled at night?

quote:
Originally posted by Asgetrion
I suspect a goblin would not even know the word 'Suzail', let alone know where it lies.


What I asked, in an admittedly unclear way, is whether monsters would be so familiar with the roadways as to get around in Cormyr.

For example, would a goblin would know how to get from the Vast Swamp to his cousins in the Marsh of Tun by using the kingdom's roads?

Edited by - RodOdom on 19 Jul 2006 14:48:55
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createvmind
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I don't think Goblins think in such terms if you are speaking of these creatures in particular, a more intelligent monster probably could navigate in such manner. As stated earlier the goblin would know "Big human tribe live in great stone wall place,....that way. Lorga not go that way or Lorga get dead quick."

Now if the goblin had good luck and a bit of skill and had managed to traverse a route from Vast Swamp to Marsh of Tun a number of times it would know it's way. Now as to being able to tell someone how to travel as it did, that would be the difficuly. "Lorga not know Marsssssdof Ton, Lorga know great muddy water place, many snakes and mean scaly men there.... What? Why you talk funny words, you try to do magic on Lorga!?! ....Ohhhhh ixxakaley is where place, why you not say where scaly men place first time. Hey you give Lorga pretty knife now? Huh..... Ohhh hee hee, Lorga make sure you no forget pretty knife you give Lorga. Yes, yes...Lorga see scaly men all places in great muddy water, many, many, many, many, many scaly men near big black tree....... Black tree in muddy water! You not listen to Lorga when he say first time!"

Basically you wouldn't really WANT to try and get directions or converstaion from average goblin, very similar to being victim of feeblemind spell. You could simply tell goblin take you to it's understanding of what you ask and pray to the gods for the best.
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Chosen of Moradin
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quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

I don't think Goblins think in such terms if you are speaking of these creatures in particular, a more intelligent monster probably could navigate in such manner. As stated earlier the goblin would know "Big human tribe live in great stone wall place,....that way. Lorga not go that way or Lorga get dead quick."

Now if the goblin had good luck and a bit of skill and had managed to traverse a route from Vast Swamp to Marsh of Tun a number of times it would know it's way. Now as to being able to tell someone how to travel as it did, that would be the difficuly. "Lorga not know Marsssssdof Ton, Lorga know great muddy water place, many snakes and mean scaly men there.... What? Why you talk funny words, you try to do magic on Lorga!?! ....Ohhhhh ixxakaley is where place, why you not say where scaly men place first time. Hey you give Lorga pretty knife now? Huh..... Ohhh hee hee, Lorga make sure you no forget pretty knife you give Lorga. Yes, yes...Lorga see scaly men all places in great muddy water, many, many, many, many, many scaly men near big black tree....... Black tree in muddy water! You not listen to Lorga when he say first time!"

Basically you wouldn't really WANT to try and get directions or converstaion from average goblin, very similar to being victim of feeblemind spell. You could simply tell goblin take you to it's understanding of what you ask and pray to the gods for the best.




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Skeptic
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quote:
Originally posted by THO in Ed's 2004 thread
It's very important that gamers not follow their real-world (usually monotheistic) thinking when considering Faerunian situations: the Realms is pantheistic, and "everyone knows" ALL the gods (at least of one's own race) "really exist." Unlike our real world, there's no denying that the folk praying to another god next door aren't just as correct as "we" are, because often "we" will also be praying to that other deity soon (if only for appeasement). The faith lies in believing this or that personal, dream-vision-induced, or priestly interpretation of the deity's will or intentions or prohibitions, not in believing the god exists.


One of my player is asking me what exactly you mean by “everyone knows” and “really exist” ?

There is a subtle difference with “knows” and “everyone in the world believe”, what is the most correct one for describing it ? (Ex. “Earth is flat, Earth is round”). If it’s the first, which proofs are shown to them to make them knows ?

Let’s say it’s prayers' visibles effects: knowing that with spells, a wizard could mimic easily many “divine powers” (like raising dead with a Wish); wouldn’t it be possible for common folks to think that there is no Gods and only “wizards who thinks are doing faith-based miracles” ?

Let’s say it’s ToT : Some would argue that seeing Gods walking the land was the ultimate proof, but I doubt Ed were taking it into account in this answer. In the opposite case, it means that the relationship between mortals and Gods really changed during this RSE, if it’s the case, I would like to hear Ed about it.

Edited by - Skeptic on 20 Jul 2006 05:41:20
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Faraer
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That puts me in mind of a question I'd been meaning to ask.

Ed, could you describe the experience of a worship ceremony by a worshipper? (implicit question: is it a profane, essentially social ritual, or do the worshippers experience the presence and myths of the god? or is there a lot of variation?)
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Kaysae
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Greetings, Ed of the Greenwood!

I have lurked here for a while and I finally have a question to ask, hopefully you have an answer! First, however, I just want to say how much I appreciate the lore you impart here at Candlekeep. I've enjoyed every scroll.

Now, my query. What are the benefits of taming the Stonelands, other than stemming the tide of monsters, Zhents, and the Shadovar? Does it offer anything in the terms of resources? I mean, what incentive is there that fortifying the eastern-most fringe of the territory wouldn't accomplish?

Looking at Elminster's Ecologies and your descriptions of the Stonelands here at Candlekeep, I have to ask, is the Barony just a ruse by the Crown to get adventurer's to harass the opposing forces therein? It seems like (barring Epic magic) an impossible task. It almost seems easier and more efficient to wall off the entirety of the Stonelands and lob in barrels of smokepowder day in and day out.

Thank you again!
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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by createvmind

I don't think Goblins think in such terms if you are speaking of these creatures in particular, a more intelligent monster probably could navigate in such manner. As stated earlier the goblin would know "Big human tribe live in great stone wall place,....that way. Lorga not go that way or Lorga get dead quick."

Now if the goblin had good luck and a bit of skill and had managed to traverse a route from Vast Swamp to Marsh of Tun a number of times it would know it's way. Now as to being able to tell someone how to travel as it did, that would be the difficuly. "Lorga not know Marsssssdof Ton, Lorga know great muddy water place, many snakes and mean scaly men there.... What? Why you talk funny words, you try to do magic on Lorga!?! ....Ohhhhh ixxakaley is where place, why you not say where scaly men place first time. Hey you give Lorga pretty knife now? Huh..... Ohhh hee hee, Lorga make sure you no forget pretty knife you give Lorga. Yes, yes...Lorga see scaly men all places in great muddy water, many, many, many, many, many scaly men near big black tree....... Black tree in muddy water! You not listen to Lorga when he say first time!"

Basically you wouldn't really WANT to try and get directions or converstaion from average goblin, very similar to being victim of feeblemind spell. You could simply tell goblin take you to it's understanding of what you ask and pray to the gods for the best.



Createvmind, you can be my DM anytime.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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createvmind
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Posted - 20 Jul 2006 :  01:46:56  Show Profile  Visit createvmind's Homepage Send createvmind a Private Message
Wow, Thank you so much, just a glimpse of the realms infusion I have gained from all of you great writers and sages.

Thanks again.
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 20 Jul 2006 :  14:46:02  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, fellow scribes of Realmslore. This time, Ed tackles RodOdom’s post: “Dear Ed and Lady Tho, Here's another question about names. The ruler of Halruaa is known by the title "Netyarch". The great druid of the Great Dale has the title "Nentyarch". Is there a link between the two names?”
Ed replies:



Yes, there’s (only) an etymological, historical link.
The title “Tarnentyarch” was an archaic word for “leader, speaker of decrees” as Netheril rose to greatness, and through usage the word (corrupted to “Nentyarch”) became a Netherese title, roughly equivalent to “sheriff” or “district supervisor.” In other words, a Nentyarch was an official who kept order, settled disputes, and disseminated information over a specific (and fairly small; so there were many nentyarchs, and the rank wasn’t exalted) geographical area.
Many folk fled in various directions during Netheril’s fall, and the title (corrupted again, into “Netyarch”) was obviously adopted by the ruler of Halruaa (perhaps the largest and most successful diaspora ‘colony’). In uncorrupted form, it obviously also found its way to the Great Dale.



So saith Ed. Tireless painter-in of all the little uncoloured details of Realmslore.
love to all,
THO
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RodOdom
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Posted - 20 Jul 2006 :  19:59:57  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message
That answer made my day. Thank you!
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 :  03:43:58  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Our pleasure, RodOdom!
And hello again, all.
This time Ed tackles atlas689’s quintet of questions: “1. Are there any future plans for any books on Netheril such in the format that of the novels of Cormyr or Evermeet were written from either you or any other author?
2. Not much is known of Barauble of Cormyr before he was seen in the elven forests of Cormyr. I know that he is from Netheril, but what of his life in Netheril is known to us?
3. Elaith Craulnober has obviously massed a huge fortune in Waterdeep, Mirt seems also to be extremely well off also but who has the greater and the more valuable keepings?
4. In City of Splendors the novel Madeiron Sunderstone is mentioned as Piergeiron's body gaurd, what is known of him other than the few worded description given to him in the novel.
5. In the novel Farthest Reach when the whereabouts are questioned about Elminster and the Knights of Myth Drannor, it is said that they are on a mission along with the Simbul to do something with the Shrinshee, is this the possible storyline of the upcoming book Swords of Eveningstar?
Tempus thanks you!
-Atlas”
Ed replies:



A solid roster of queries, atlas689, and kindly scribes have ably leaped into action to deal with them already. So I’ll bat cleanup, as follows:
1. I don’t know, but I doubt it. (I don’t decide what novels are being written about the Realms, and am not privy to the plot details of many books being worked on by writers whose names don’t happen to be Ed Greenwood.) However, I have a pretty good idea of how many titles are scheduled and who’s hard at work on what, and there don’t seem (to me) to be too many slots unaccounted-for - - which leads me to suspect that there aren’t plans in, say, the next three years to deal with Netheril. You are familiar with the out-of-print Arcane Age mass market paperback trilogy that dealt with Netheril, yes?
2. Not all that much. The large, grim-looking shield I’m raising and hiding behind is an old, battered, yet still-valid NDA. Isn’t its silence heavy, and somehow menacing? But let me hint: he was assigned (ordered into) to the role he ended up in. I leave you to speculate by whom.
3. Skeptic has directed you to the relevant reply (page 16 of this year’s thread), but to be more specific: Mirt is a LOT wealthier than Elaith, but Elaith doesn’t realize it and probably wouldn’t believe it, because the bulk of Mirt’s business as a landlord is well hidden beneath several layers of apparent building owners and sub-owners (whereas his moneylending business is conducted very openly). Mirt also sponsors many small businesses in a completely confidential manner, and does “banking” for several guilds in a highly profitable sideline that’s even more secret. Elaith has the larger profit-per-transaction and is making more gross profits in recent years (because more of his business is criminal, hence high-margin), but Mirt has a huge head start as a landlord and in money-laundering business investments for Elaith to overcome. In terms of influence, Elaith can command more fear - - but Mirt is a Lord of Waterdeep AND much better-known and more liked. So Elaith’s lifespan will make him the eventual winner (if he stays alive and stays interested in Waterdeep), but for now Mirt wins any shrewd wealth comparison of the two in a walkover. Not that either of them is particularly interested in any direct competition (both see the other as a convenient “cover excuse” for a lot of things, and Mirt’s formerly deep apprehension that Elaith is out to wreck or covertly rule Waterdeep has faded; he now correctly sees the elf as caring about Waterdeep’s future).
4. Arkhaedun has mentioned Piergeiron’s first appearance (in FR1); there was some amplification in both VOLO’S GUIDE TO WATERDEEP and the 2nd Edition CITY OF SPLENDORS boxed set (complete with an illustration of him: he’s the taller guy in the illustration on page 70 of the Campaign Guide booklet). He’s a pretty straightforward guy, with few secrets. Trust me. :}
5. Skeptic and Arkhaedun both took care of this one. “Tears So White” in REALMS OF THE ELVES deals with the whereabouts of the Knights during the events of the Last Mythal trilogy. SWORDS OF EVENINGSTAR is set in the past, specifically during the year the adventuring group that later became famous as the Knights of Myth Drannor was formed, winning their charter and beginning their adventuring careers.



So saith Ed, the original and still-bubbling font of Realmslore.
love to all,
THO
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Sanishiver
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Posted - 21 Jul 2006 :  09:06:13  Show Profile  Visit Sanishiver's Homepage Send Sanishiver a Private Message
Seeing Kaysae's question, Sanishiver happily stands by for more Lore about the Stonelands, which he'll happily use in his own "We're almost to the Stonelands...just have to battle these things coming out of Tilverton first!" campaign.

J. Grenemyer

09/20/2008: Tiger Army at the Catalyst in Santa Cruz. You wouldn’t believe how many females rode it out in the pit. Santa Cruz women are all of them beautiful. Now I know to add tough to that description.
6/27/2008: WALL-E is about the best damn movie Pixar has ever made. It had my heart racing and had me rooting for the good guy.
9/9/2006: Dave Mathews Band was off the hook at the Shoreline Amphitheater.

Never, ever read the game books too literally, or make such assumptions that what is omitted cannot be. Bad DM form, that.

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