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Nevorick
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USA
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Posted - 05 Feb 2006 :  07:09:47  Show Profile  Visit Nevorick's Homepage Send Nevorick a Private Message
Greetings. I would like to know if Ed could give us any information regarding the lineage of Obarskyr royals from the past. ANY INFO - dates of rule, the order of rulership, to whom they may have married, or any cool stories that he would like to share, would be greatly appreciated. Cormyr is a very big part of our gaming group, and little details regarding the past kings and queens would be a worthwhile addition to our game.

"What happens in Waterdeep, stays in Waterdeep."
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 05 Feb 2006 :  08:11:13  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nevorick

Greetings. I would like to know if Ed could give us any information regarding the lineage of Obarskyr royals from the past. ANY INFO - dates of rule, the order of rulership, to whom they may have married, or any cool stories that he would like to share, would be greatly appreciated. Cormyr is a very big part of our gaming group, and little details regarding the past kings and queens would be a worthwhile addition to our game.



A wonderful question that I'd love to see answered myself. Alas, I fear the fat lady known as NDA is already waiting in the wings to warble regarding this subject matter.
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore

Finland
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Posted - 05 Feb 2006 :  12:48:37  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nevorick

Greetings. I would like to know if Ed could give us any information regarding the lineage of Obarskyr royals from the past. ANY INFO - dates of rule, the order of rulership, to whom they may have married, or any cool stories that he would like to share, would be greatly appreciated. Cormyr is a very big part of our gaming group, and little details regarding the past kings and queens would be a worthwhile addition to our game.



Well met!

Have you read Cormyr: A Novel? It is filled with such stories from Cormyr's past. Not only does it give loads and loads of great details about the Forest Kingdom, it is also among the top five books that I have ever read

Also, I think there is a list of all the Cormyr's kings and queens here at Candlekeep (now, where did I put that scroll that Vangy sent me?)

"What am I doing today? Ask me tomorrow - I can be sure of giving you the right answer then."
-- Askarran of Selgaunt, Master Sage, speaking to a curious merchant, Year of the Helm
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Nevorick
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Posted - 05 Feb 2006 :  15:32:19  Show Profile  Visit Nevorick's Homepage Send Nevorick a Private Message
I am familiar with the Lineage of Kings that Ed and Grant Christie put forth several years ago. It gives the names of the Obarskyr rulers of Cormyr, but little else. From my comparisons to the novels and what other source material out there, the lineage does not seem to even list the rulers in order of sucession.
http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2765
Here is a link where it was briefly discussed.

I thought the question worth asking even if it is likely that NDA will prevent Ed from answering, because maybe he can, and that is worth it.

"What happens in Waterdeep, stays in Waterdeep."
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 05 Feb 2006 :  15:42:39  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
I’m afraid SiriusBlack is quite correct.
Years ago, Ed drafted a huge document detailing the Royal Lineage of Cormyr, which scribes such as Eric Boyd, George Krashos, Grant Christie, Tom Costa, Bryon Wischstadt, and Garen Thal (among others) have checked, re-checked, amended, gone over again, revised over again, and so on. It was never officially published, and if it has leaked out, you can only be looking at an early, fragmentary version.
From Ed’s point of view, that large and vital scroll is now NDA, being as WotC specifically asked for it (again) more than a year ago. I wish (oh, how I wish) it could be published for all. The depth of detail now woven into it is simply . . . awesome.
Cormyr is where we Knights first assembled and began our adventures, too, and I ache at how much Cormyr lore Ed’s spun over the years that has never been published (small stuff, like flows of goods through Suzail, Marsember, and Arabel, and what it’s like to live in those places, or Immersea, or Espar, not wars and the endless noble intrigues). At one point, Ed started in on the lineages of the nobility, too, but had to leave off work purely because of time constraints.
Hopefully, one day, we’ll all see a [NDA].
In the meantime, I’ll whisper in Ed’s ear (using a lot of tongue, of course) to see if there’s a tidbit or two Cormyrean that he could toss your way. (And as Asgetrion says, CORYMR: A NOVEL is a good light overview of the “feel” of the “passing parade” of royalty in Cormyr.) Perhaps if you ask a series of small, specific questions (about individual rulers, say, or a specific year), Ed could sneak forth some small, specific answers . . .
love,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 05 Feb 2006 15:48:23
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 05 Feb 2006 :  22:53:29  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
THO has it right as always, the Cormyr Lineage exists in exacting detail and has been in the hands of WotC for a year or so now. You must understand however that it is a nebulous document of sorts - because Ed keeps churning out the realmslore on Cormyr, and we "Keepers of the Lineage" (Garen Thal is its current custodian) are always playing catch up and Mr Fixit. You should have seen the scrambling that followed the publication of "Elminster's Daughter"! I very much hope that it will see the light of day and soon - it would make a splendid web enhancement for a "Cormyr: the Forest Kingdom" regional sourcebook.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus

Edited by - George Krashos on 05 Feb 2006 22:54:44
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 06 Feb 2006 :  01:14:56  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
George: HAH. Wait'll you see the scrambling that follows SWORDS OF EVENINGSTAR!
Ahem. Hello again, all!
Ed forthwith tackles Kajehase’s queries: “Wonderful answer about the swordsmen Ed My heartfelt thanks to you for writing it, and to our dear Lady Hooded One for bringing it to us. I hope none of you mind if I come with a few follow up questions brought on by the details in Ed's reply:
How common are fencing-tournaments in the Realms (or other athletic competitions for that matter)?
Come to that, are there any recurring competitions - say an All-Dalelands competition held at each Shieldmeet? And how are athletes generally regarded by the general populace - adulated and adored, or seen as little better than travelling entertainers (assuming there are in fact people making a living by attending various competitions)? Oh, and how far up the list of fencers would my favourite Knight of Myth Drannor, Sharantyr, be, with no dirty tricks (like the baring of breasts) allowed? Upper half? Mid third?”
Ed replies:



As far up as her breasts could reach, of course.
Ahem. Belay that. Bad joke, sorry.
Seriously, now: Wrestling and archery tournaments are common at moots, markets, and festival-days (with dart-throwing and arm-wrestling being the everyday indoor tavern equivalents, joined by “shields” [“slideshields” in full, the Realms name for “shove ha’penny”] as the sole athletics in most taverns).
“Swordplay” (fencing) tourneys are rare in many places, thanks to either widespread dueling or prohibitions on dueling (it can be hard to convince the local Watch that you were just fencing, and not dueling, especially if someone gets wounded - - and if people bet on the fencing bouts, that’s often the root-of-evil the anti-dueling laws were put in place to stamp out. Jousting (for commoners, on their own nags and using padded-end “blodge-poles” to buffet each other and targets), and horse-archery (gallop and fire shafts through smallish holes at targets to one side of the rider) are far more common. There are always competitions of the latter two at Shieldmeets, and in some places “swordplay” too; winners are often given a prize of a fine sword - - and offered high pay (and what we would call a “signing bonus,” but in Faerûn goes by the name of “a champion’s cloak”) to enter the service of the competition sponsor as a bodyguard, armsmaster (trainer) or guard commander (the latter two professions applying in cases when temple high priests or local rulers are the sponsors).
However, fencing and knife-throwing EXHIBITIONS (like juggling and tightrope-walking) aren’t so rare.
Very few folk make a living from competitions, but many (like a travel carnival or “feast of wonders”) do so with traveling exhibitions. Athletes are respected for their skills (and may “win a warm night” with local lasses, either young and ardent or old and desperate), but not really “adulated or adored.” And yes, some of them are travelling entertainers and seen as such, though “travelling entertainer” is NOT a term of disparagement in the Realms.
Sharantyr is ‘bladeswift,’ lithe, and acrobatic, meaning that she wins most blade-contests by moving around quickly rather than with sheer precision of bladework. She can move her sword VERY quickly, but is already starting to lose that speed as she ages, and it will “fall off” quite quickly. So in daily swordfighting effectiveness she’s about a 7.7 on a “1-lowest, 10-highest” scale, but in terms of pure swordplay skill she’s only about a 6. If this rating seems harsh to you, compare it to my rankings on the same scale of an average well-trained soldier, fighting alone rather than in formation (daily effectiveness 4.5 and bladework 2.8), and an average militia member or merchant who’s taken blade lessons and practises briefly, every tenday or so (daily effectiveness 3 and bladework 2).



So saith Ed. Who for fun ranked me (with a sword) at daily effectiveness 6, and bladework 4. A ranking I’m very proud of, by the way. (And I’d put him at about d.a. 4 and bladework 3.5; his knees and weight have robbed him of much agility; when he was a teenager, and fenced regularly, Ed was probably about a d.a. 6.5 but bladework only 3.)
love to all,
THO
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
4948 Posts

Posted - 06 Feb 2006 :  04:49:23  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

George: HAH. Wait'll you see the scrambling that follows SWORDS OF EVENINGSTAR!



Ummm, great!

I'm sure Ed gets great pleasure from our constant FR contortions when we reconcile his latest missives ... (I'll leave that one open for you, THO!)

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Dargoth
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Australia
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Posted - 06 Feb 2006 :  06:18:29  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message
A Question for Ed

I was wondering if you had any more infomation on the Thorp Noble family in Waterdeep particularly its surviving members: Hulmara, Hularneros Rhond (Where does the Rhond bit of his name come from), Khorom Thorp (Why has he been disowned), Lady Stelar Thorp Nasher.

Also what is the Thorp families relationship like with the other Noble houses?

Thanks in advance!

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Edited by - Dargoth on 06 Feb 2006 09:25:55
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Kajehase
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Sweden
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Posted - 06 Feb 2006 :  09:14:00  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

George: HAH. Wait'll you see the scrambling that follows SWORDS OF EVENINGSTAR!
Ahem. Hello again, all!
Ed forthwith tackles Kajehase’s queries: “Wonderful answer about the swordsmen Ed My heartfelt thanks to you for writing it, and to our dear Lady Hooded One for bringing it to us. I hope none of you mind if I come with a few follow up questions brought on by the details in Ed's reply:
How common are fencing-tournaments in the Realms (or other athletic competitions for that matter)?
Come to that, are there any recurring competitions - say an All-Dalelands competition held at each Shieldmeet? And how are athletes generally regarded by the general populace - adulated and adored, or seen as little better than travelling entertainers (assuming there are in fact people making a living by attending various competitions)? Oh, and how far up the list of fencers would my favourite Knight of Myth Drannor, Sharantyr, be, with no dirty tricks (like the baring of breasts) allowed? Upper half? Mid third?”
Ed replies:

/snip

So saith Ed. Who for fun ranked me (with a sword) at daily effectiveness 6, and bladework 4. A ranking I’m very proud of, by the way. (And I’d put him at about d.a. 4 and bladework 3.5; his knees and weight have robbed him of much agility; when he was a teenager, and fenced regularly, Ed was probably about a d.a. 6.5 but bladework only 3.)
love to all,
THO




Mange takk (with reservations for the spelling) as my neighbours to the south would say, sayeth Kajehase who'd probably be a 1 on both unless the blades were replaced with long, thin, wooden sticks in which case I'd get an effectiveness of 2

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Edited by - Kajehase on 06 Feb 2006 09:14:24
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Verghityax
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 06 Feb 2006 :  14:08:16  Show Profile  Visit Verghityax's Homepage Send Verghityax a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

I very much hope that it will see the light of day and soon - it would make a splendid web enhancement for a "Cormyr: the Forest Kingdom" regional sourcebook.

-- George Krashos



Uhhh... Did you just use the magical words: "regional sourcebook"?

Edited by - Verghityax on 06 Feb 2006 14:11:24
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Nevorick
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USA
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Posted - 06 Feb 2006 :  17:33:27  Show Profile  Visit Nevorick's Homepage Send Nevorick a Private Message
Lady Herald, I will take thy advice and ask for small kernels of knowledge from the Sage, Ed.
After thy whispers, what can Ed say on the Cormyrian Kings, Belmuth and Arathra?

Yours most respectfully,

Nevorick


"What happens in Waterdeep, stays in Waterdeep."
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Rolindin
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Posted - 06 Feb 2006 :  18:02:17  Show Profile  Visit Rolindin's Homepage Send Rolindin a Private Message
Question to ed about the harpells.
is more information going to put out about them and thier castle, and thier family heiratage.
Bidderdo and the rest of the family would be good to know all the children and grandchieldren.
I did like Bidderdo he was to be a written kind of a fun character in the books.
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 06 Feb 2006 :  22:26:40  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rolindin

Question to ed about the harpells.
is more information going to put out about them and thier castle, and thier family heiratage.
Bidderdo and the rest of the family would be good to know all the children and grandchieldren.
I did like Bidderdo he was to be a written kind of a fun character in the books.



And I'm still interested in the sort of music the household orchestra plays and who their composer is.....

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yrch
Acolyte

Yugoslavia
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Posted - 07 Feb 2006 :  00:43:39  Show Profile  Visit yrch's Homepage Send yrch a Private Message
Greetings to all visitors of this library. I have a couple of questions for Ed, but I would welcome any answer or suggestion from other sages...
I'm starting a Marsember-based campaign. Ed's list of Marsember buildings, islands (isles as he said) and streets is fantastic, but since I don't have Marsember map from Dungeon, I couldn't reconstruct original map from Volo's guide (pdf format, map is nearly unreadable). I would ask Ed if he can describe the locations (like he did with 13. Chalanther House or 18. The Net of Pearls) of temple to Waukeen {15. Faircoins Moneychanger (moneylending, moneychanging, and contract-witnessing business, and shrine to Waukeen)}, 30. The Drowned Sailors Society (club), and cemetery(it wasn't mentioned in "Marsember,mended", and I don't know where to locate it ). Purpose of the Lightless Lamp is also a mistery to me, some kind of explanation would be great. Thanks:-)

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Dargoth
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Posted - 07 Feb 2006 :  01:04:23  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by yrch

Greetings to all visitors of this library. I have a couple of questions for Ed, but I would welcome any answer or suggestion from other sages...
I'm starting a Marsember-based campaign. Ed's list of Marsember buildings, islands (isles as he said) and streets is fantastic, but since I don't have Marsember map from Dungeon, I couldn't reconstruct original map from Volo's guide (pdf format, map is nearly unreadable). I would ask Ed if he can describe the locations (like he did with 13. Chalanther House or 18. The Net of Pearls) of temple to Waukeen {15. Faircoins Moneychanger (moneylending, moneychanging, and contract-witnessing business, and shrine to Waukeen)}, 30. The Drowned Sailors Society (club), and cemetery(it wasn't mentioned in "Marsember,mended", and I don't know where to locate it ). Purpose of the Lightless Lamp is also a mistery to me, some kind of explanation would be great. Thanks:-)



Im pretty sure the map of Marsember that Ed included in his Cities article is avaliable for Download on the Pazio site

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Emperor Sigismund

"Its good to be the King!"

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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 07 Feb 2006 :  01:51:07  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Yrch, I think Dargoth’s correct about Paizo having the map available. It will take Ed a fair while to get to your request through the huge heap of requests already in front of him, so I’ll answer one little bit of it right now: the Lightless Lamp is just one of many “street-lanterns” in the often-befogged port, but it’s broken (and so, “lightless”). In Ed’s novel ELMINSTER’S DAUGHTER, it’s used the same way most citizens of Marsember use it: as a landmark (meeting-place).
This time, Ed makes reply to Verghityax, re. this: “I just finished Troy Denning's "The Siege". In chapter fourteen (in the scene when phaerimms seize control over minds of most soldiers in Laeral's army) it is said that Bloodaxe Company from Sundabar has suffered severe damage and their entire camp has been destroyed. Does it mean that the company doesn't exist anymore? What is their current status?”
Ed speaks:



The Bloodaxes were reduced to just under twenty percent of what their strength was prior to the events of THE SIEGE, and lost much of their gear. Their morale was even more battered, and most fled, finding their own various ways home to Sundabar.
Where they have since reformed, battlewiser and grimly determined to become even stronger than before. Wherefore they are recruiting new members (adventurers! all races and classes - - though not all alignments; lawful definitely preferred - - welcome!), training these hard (adventuring forays into - - and under - - the mountains), and seeking to be a proud Company once more. They have a long way to go, being at about 24 percent strength right now, but for adventurers offer some glorious opportunities (for those who can stomach being bullied by hardbitten “scarred dwarf” drillcaptains day in and day out).



So saith Ed, Warcaptain Glorious of the Realms. And owner of at least sixteen pairs of black socks.
love to all,
THO
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yrch
Acolyte

Yugoslavia
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Posted - 07 Feb 2006 :  06:14:04  Show Profile  Visit yrch's Homepage Send yrch a Private Message
Thanks for quick reply about Lamp...
I searched for Marsember map on Paizo.com, but i couldn't find it. I looked in the Downloads and Resources sections, there is only pdf version of Dungeon #113 for sale :-(

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Wooly Rupert
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We finally have the next chapter of Oroon Rising... Oroon Rising - Chap. 9

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Verghityax
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Posted - 07 Feb 2006 :  12:54:04  Show Profile  Visit Verghityax's Homepage Send Verghityax a Private Message
Thanks Ed for thy quick response I hope that the Bloodaxes will recover somehow.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 08 Feb 2006 :  01:57:30  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Once again Ed delves into the fascinating subject of wiping oneself after defecation, answering this from Scarabeus: “What do adventurers do for the wiping of the behind when deep into a dungeon or similar areas? No leaves, no vinegar, no moss ...hummm ...what about my cloak of protection +3 ?”
Ed replies:



Adventurers typically carry along (in a belt pouch, or sometimes strapped to boots [under the cuffs of turned-down bucket-top boots, for instance]) a thareea (the scented brown bum-wiping cloths, for those who missed my earlier replies) folded and wrapped in an oiled-innards leather pouch.
Wipe with just one side of it, fold it up around that soiled side, and rinse (in a pool, stream downstream from where drinking water’s taken) or wipe (on grass, for example) it clean, the first chance they get - - and wash it properly as soon as they can.



So saith Ed. Nose-picking details, next time? Just kidding.
love to all,
THO
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Bakra
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Once again Ed delves into the fascinating subject of wiping oneself after defecation, answering this from Scarabeus: “What do adventurers do for the wiping of the behind when deep into a dungeon or similar areas? No leaves, no vinegar, no moss ...hummm ...what about my cloak of protection +3 ?”
Ed replies:



Adventurers typically carry along (in a belt pouch, or sometimes strapped to boots [under the cuffs of turned-down bucket-top boots, for instance]) a thareea (the scented brown bum-wiping cloths, for those who missed my earlier replies) folded and wrapped in an oiled-innards leather pouch.
Wipe with just one side of it, fold it up around that soiled side, and rinse (in a pool, stream downstream from where drinking water’s taken) or wipe (on grass, for example) it clean, the first chance they get - - and wash it properly as soon as they can.



So saith Ed. Nose-picking details, next time? Just kidding.
love to all,
THO




I know this may come as a shock but the adventurer could always use their non-dominate hand. They just have to take care to clean the said hand and make sure not to do certain taboo things….like eat with it or shake hands with another person or offer a person some food with 'that hand'...etc...

I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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Neriandal Freit
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Posted - 08 Feb 2006 :  16:15:02  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage  Click to see Neriandal Freit's MSN Messenger address Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message
Yes, as I'm sure you know, (and I'm 90% sure of my self on this) The Chinese used to do that with I believe their left hand. Even to this day, people will not shake another person with their said hand because of how long they did.


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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 :  03:23:26  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Well met again, fellow scribes. I prodded Ed, and finally got him to reply to this, from Karth: “Yes, Ed's ranking of top fighters is eminently useful on its own. That said, I'd still like to see Ed's 2E-style quick summaries of that list, such as the ones he did for the FR Adventures hardcover, Volo's Guides and various other 2E products he designed.
Example: Laspeera Naerinth (NG hf M14)
Always a treasure to be sure about the general size of the ballpark you're manufacturing detail in - straight from the man himself... ;)”
Ed speaks:



I’m with George: I care far more about the stories and essential characters of NPCs rather than their stats, but all right, I’ll (reluctantly) provide barebones (i.e. lacking weapon specializations and a lot of the later 2e added frills) 2e-only (as Sanishiver posted, it’s easy for those using 3e to craft game-precise versions of these folks using the right combinations of feats, prestige classes, et cetera) capsule stats, for the “new” characters only:

Harmel Artru (NE hm Ftr9/T7: Dex 17, Cha 16)

Loaros Hammarandar (LN hm Ftr14: Str 17, Dex 17)

Ember Tsartaera (LG hf Ftr15: Str 16, Dex18)

Skoalam Marlgrask (CN hm Ftr18: Dex 17, Con 17)

Lyaunthra Aldegal (CG hf Ftr17: Con 17)

Sraece Telthorn (CN hm Ftr16/Thief-Acrobat7: Dex 18, Cha 16)

Ulmaer Rivrymm of Sheirtalar (LG hm Ftr14: Str 16, Dex 18)

Aka ‘the Questmaster’ [[NDA, sorry]]

Now, some may say that the levels given on this list are a bit low for “best” wielders-of-blades, but I say again: the only meaningful way I could answer Feanor’s question was to narrow my consideration of best to a definition of: supreme technique (superior finesse, if you will) in bladework. Otherwise, there are too many variables (X is alive today because Y slipped, or a deity who smiled on X MADE Y slip, or because X knew the darkened room they were fighting in just a little bit better, or because when the guards burst in it was Y who got his swordarm jarred for a critical moment, not X, or because it was X whose friends burst in, or Y the startled guard happened to stagger into . . . and so on). I believe THO and I have sufficiently communicated the difficulty of choosing “best” bladewielders to Feanor, our most important point being that there are another forty or so individuals, some famous and some publicly unknown, who are so close in skills to those I mentioned as to be “practically as good” if you don’t happen to be the Creator of the Realms and thus able to split Faerûnian hairs better than anyone else. :} (And, I remind you, I’m leaving out creatures - - mariliths, just to give one example - - who have more than two arms, and so can fence with a forest of skillfully-swung blades.) There are certainly combat-active beings in the Realms with higher levels than these folks, who would probably beat them in most fights; the “best” swordsman doesn’t always win. (3e DMs can of course - - and should - - load up the above-listed NPCs with Weapon Finesse and other rules touches to enhance their combat superiority.)
Oh, one more matter: I’ll get to Gerath Hoan’s request for more about Sraece Telthorn as soon as I can. Promise.



So saith Ed. You heard it here first.
love to all,
THO
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I have a question about the end of Elminster, Making of a Mage, and please forgive me, my copy is 2,500 miles away, so I can't look up exact names.

At the big dance at the end, after the good guys have won, Myrjala pulls the old herald out onto the dance floor after teasing him about when they had met in his youth. I'd really like the story behind that. Who was he? Where did he meet Myrjala/Mystra, and why did he think she couldn't dance? When and how did he find out who she actually was?

This is a little area of Realmslore, one of the many little backstories, that I've always loved, and always been curious about. Thanks in advance... hopefully *this* question shouldn't require any NDA dodging!

Doggedly converting 3e back to what D&D should be...
Sigh... And now 4e as well.
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