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Shadovar
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 Posted - 03 May 2006 : 03:58:28
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In my perspective, the Simbul had the great potential to be a powerful archwizard but she is merely a walking timebomb to the realms.
The greatest spellcaster would had to be the Netherese archwizards such as Iolaum Lvl 41. Following it up should be Telamont Lvl 35, his powers are complimented by his active wise mind, making him a potent stable force for evil. Even Queen Amlaruil should be lined up with these two as well, her command of High Magics augmented with wisdom makes her a stable force for good. |
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- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1719 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2006 : 14:39:17
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Certainly - my vote goes to: Elminster the Old Sage! He simply is the most powerful and intersting, having out-"lived" them all, raised three of those that are also on this very poll themselves and being the only one who had an intimate experience with a god (or goddess in his case) and survived it. Besides - who are Khelben "Black"-what and Hallaster anyway?! ;)
Elminster rules! Hail to Elminster! Bravo!
Ergdusch
P.S.: One should never forget Azuth the Lord of Spells, who has made his way into the FR pantheon afterall, as well as Velsharoon Archmage of Necromany, who seems to be well on his way to true deity status. And what about Harkle Harpell??? Just a few thoughts in the aftermath... |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2006 : 18:39:59
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The One and Only Karsus, You don't see that doddering Old El trying to Rip power from a God do ya  |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2006 : 19:30:53
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| ... No Larloch? |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1719 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 13:59:40
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Originally posted by The Cardinal
The One and Only Karsus, You don't see that doddering Old El trying to Rip power from a God do ya
Where though has the trying brought Karsus to? Only painful death and a world in chaos and ruins. (what a waste of potential, by the way.) Is not Wisdom and Forsight also part of determining a spellcasters greatness and power? |
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Sarephim
Seeker
USA
33 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 18:23:37
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| What about Vhostym from the Erevis Cale Trilogy? I would think he would be on the list. Anyone who can single handedly kill millions and raze entire worlds has some serious power. |
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FridayThe13th
Learned Scribe
USA
132 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 14:00:24
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| Um, where is my favorite Archlich, LARLOCH!!!!! You forgot to add that uber-badass. Well, since he is not there I will vote for Szarss Tam. |
"The Lady of Pain? You mean Loviatar runs this place?"
-- Torilian Prime
"You guys should seriously rename yourselves The Horny Society, you popularity would soar."
-- A miscillaneous Kender to a member of the Horned Society
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 03:28:45
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
Um, where is my favorite Archlich, LARLOCH!!!!!
He's not an archlich. An archlich is another type of critter altogether -- it's a type of good-aligned lich. |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 03:29:53
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| He's an Ultralich. :) |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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danifae
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 16:26:24
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| I voted halastar, though on second thought I should've done elminster. However I've been greatly impressed by the undermountain. |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 16:32:32
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
Um, where is my favorite Archlich, LARLOCH!!!!!
He's not an archlich. An archlich is another type of critter altogether -- it's a type of good-aligned lich.
Larloch is a good lich ?!?  
I agree with Gothicdan, he is described as an Ultralich...which really didn't mean anything, just a title to say he is a super-bad lich  |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 16:51:41
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| Well, and also to mean he probably has abilities above and beyond those of other liches - the least of which that we know about being his curses. |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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FridayThe13th
Learned Scribe
USA
132 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 16:16:29
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
Um, where is my favorite Archlich, LARLOCH!!!!!
He's not an archlich. An archlich is another type of critter altogether -- it's a type of good-aligned lich.
Oh, sorry, I meant Ultralich. I thought Archlich and Ultralich were one and the same? I didn't know there were good liches. |
"The Lady of Pain? You mean Loviatar runs this place?"
-- Torilian Prime
"You guys should seriously rename yourselves The Horny Society, you popularity would soar."
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
30083 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 17:13:43
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
Um, where is my favorite Archlich, LARLOCH!!!!!
He's not an archlich. An archlich is another type of critter altogether -- it's a type of good-aligned lich.
Oh, sorry, I meant Ultralich. I thought Archlich and Ultralich were one and the same? I didn't know there were good liches.
Archlichs and baelnorns are two types of lich that are good-aligned. Alatheene Moonstar, in Waterdeep, is an archlich. I can't recall any named baelnorns off the top of my head, but Kuje's NPC list surely names a couple. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 17:38:14
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
Um, where is my favorite Archlich, LARLOCH!!!!!
He's not an archlich. An archlich is another type of critter altogether -- it's a type of good-aligned lich.
Oh, sorry, I meant Ultralich. I thought Archlich and Ultralich were one and the same? I didn't know there were good liches.
Archlichs and baelnorns are two types of lich that are good-aligned. Alatheene Moonstar, in Waterdeep, is an archlich. I can't recall any named baelnorns off the top of my head, but Kuje's NPC list surely names a couple.
Indeed it does, both the 1/2e version and the 3/3.5e version does. :) |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 18:13:49
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Originally posted by GothicDan
He's an Ultralich. :)
Talking about Ultralichs, and Druth Daern? 
Something new about him?
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 18:53:55
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| Druuth isn't an Ultralich! |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 19:25:07
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Originally posted by GothicDan
Druuth isn't an Ultralich!
Well, IŽll not say this too loud, nor too much close of Myth Drannor. 
HeŽs always lurking in the shadows, I swear this!
Chosen of Moradin, the target of so many fireballs... |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 20:57:36
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Fireballs?
Try Meteor Swarms and Chain Lightning. *Twitches at his only encounter with a lich, at least 10 levels higher than his character.* |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
618 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2006 : 16:39:34
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Corran Horn
Seeker
54 Posts |
Posted - 30 Aug 2006 : 19:23:33
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| Well, Karsus in 2 ed. was 41 level wizard. Ioulaum is also 41 level wizard, but he is also lich and elder brain, so he is much more powerfull than Karsus was. Srinshee is 40 level wizard and she is chosen of Mystra. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 31 Aug 2006 : 01:04:14
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| Power is a tricky thing, though. Ioulaum is brought up all the time, but he's immobile and--as I've heard--not all that interested in combat and being a "mover and shaker". |
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Thangorn
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
77 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2006 : 01:51:46
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Manshoon will pwn everyone once he figures out how to shift his consciousness between his clones...
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Entreri1000
Seeker
Canada
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Posted - 21 Oct 2006 : 15:35:20
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Sheer power wise has to be Larloch, was level 45, under new rules he is level 36. Ed said Telemont comes very close to Larloch. Telemont being level 35.
Telemont easily tames a dragolich (ruler of the Blues) to do his every bidding.
Karsus etc, were around level 42, but using the new rule sets, they are around level 34 (i.e. slightly less powerful than Telemont is now). Karsus had Godhood for a while, just because he gets it does not necessarily mean he is the most powerful, may be the others were wiser...
If you are thinking these surviving Netherese would grow in levels over time, that is logical, but Halaster is 4000 years old, and still level 30...
Erevis Cale trilogy supermage: Somebody mentioned the Sorjourner (sp?), 12000 years old, destroyer of worlds, he has be well over level 30, may be even around level 40 (or level 50 using earlier rules).
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1) Larloch 2) Telemont
Others like Simbul, Sammaster, Eliminster, Halaster, Szas Tam are all around level 30....Thus Eliminster would be #1 (in a novle he defeated the Simbul, Simbul also mentioned he was more powerful than her), unless one fights Halaster in Undermountain! |
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Gellion
Learned Scribe
140 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2006 : 00:05:49
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"Paladine, you see the evil that surrounds me! You have been witness to the calamities that have been the scourge of Krynn... You must see now that this doctrine of balance will not work! I can sweep evil from this land. Destroy the ogre races. Bring the wayward humans into line! Find new homelands far away for the dwarves and the kender and the gnomes, those races not of your creation... I demand that you give me, too, the power to drive away the shadows of evil that darken the land!"- THE REIGN OF ISTAR, Tales IV |
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Who is the best spellcaster in the realms
