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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
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 Posted - 10 Mar 2006 : 13:31:48
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| I was thinking Halaster at first because of Undermountain, but I voted Karsus because anyone who can cast a spell to steal divinity HAS to be rated number one :) that and the fact that I am biased towards all things Netherese :P |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 15 Apr 2006 : 19:49:05
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Originally posted by Magus Rages
Hello everyone, I had just thought of a question and had been wondering for some time. All right, this poll asks all the scribes, veteran and elite scribes of candlekeep who you think is the best, most powerful, most superior spellcaster in the realms in terms of your own opinion, not based on some stats. A honest vote and honest reply is greatly appreciated, I express my thanks to all in advance. Thank you.
I base my reply in large part on his stats, but Shoon VII ought to be CR 42 or thereabouts, given that he is a demi-lich. Having passed beyond the "I'm a skull on the ground" stage, he gives a clue as to what might become of a lich whose ego is overwhelmingly powerful -- he ... just ... won't ... go ... away!
Apropos of liches, let us not forget the Teraseer, who manipulated Netheril with an easy grace (and who is due to return soon, if he hasn't already).
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 16 Apr 2006 : 00:57:59
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I want to see the votes for Khelben jump through the roof after his novel comes out....  |
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atlas689
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 29 Apr 2006 : 17:57:29
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Karsus I'll just say one word... Godhood!
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Soldiers fight, thieves steal, bards sing, wizards cast, sages think, assassins kill. Good or Evil we all have a job. So tell me this. What the hell are nobles and merchants for?
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
688 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 02:16:56
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This thread just goes to show how many cool archmage/epic spellcasters there are in the realms. I've argued this topic many a time but upon hearing of Larloch's powers.... It would seem that even Karsus would be challenged by this powerful spellcaster. But you know I might actually say Azuth because wasn't he a mortal before he attained godhood by Mystra's grace???  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 02:51:10
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Originally posted by Wandering_mage
This thread just goes to show how many cool archmage/epic spellcasters there are in the realms. I've argued this topic many a time but upon hearing of Larloch's powers.... It would seem that even Karsus would be challenged by this powerful spellcaster. But you know I might actually say Azuth because wasn't he a mortal before he attained godhood by Mystra's grace???
Yup, Azuth was a mortal spellslinger before becoming a deity... Kinda like Mystra 2.0 and Velsharoon. |
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Wandering_mage
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 22:48:03
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Wandering_mage
This thread just goes to show how many cool archmage/epic spellcasters there are in the realms. I've argued this topic many a time but upon hearing of Larloch's powers.... It would seem that even Karsus would be challenged by this powerful spellcaster. But you know I might actually say Azuth because wasn't he a mortal before he attained godhood by Mystra's grace???
Yup, Azuth was a mortal spellslinger before becoming a deity... Kinda like Mystra 2.0 and Velsharoon.
That being verified. Was he any good???? From what I remember he study magic with the elves and traveled lots not unlike another wizard we all know and respect. But for some reason I guess he became the first chosen of mystra (although I might have that wrong). He also was the Magister right? This all would be very interesting to gauge his strength as a spellcaster when he was mortal. |
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Ilsidahur
Acolyte
Denmark
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Posted - 02 May 2006 : 19:19:28
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Tanthul is far more powerful than any other. No one has that amount of power in their grib. By pure will he makes a very powerful dragolich bow down and serve him even though it is against its will.
He has hold the "High most" titel in a city of very powerful wizards for more than 2000 years, on the plane of shadow... Who other than him could have done that!!? The people of the shade enclave worship him and not Shar. He would without a doubt come out victorios in any fight against the others. |
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darkflame millithor
Seeker
USA
52 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2006 : 20:29:49
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are you asking about living mages or dead mages?
living mages-I hate to say it but I've read of her enough to not deny it,THE MOST POWERFUL MAGE is THE SIMBUL(capital letters for a capital, capable,caster. In elminster in hell,she proved her self to be supreme over some of the most powerful(I won't spoil it for u but check it out!) I thought el was the star but man!hold up!
as far as dead wizards I must admit I'm racially
bias. The ilithiri mage KANARLIST from seacrets of blood/spirits in realms of the arcain(I think)
HE created the sahaugin race of the forgotten realms,and he had a hand in making the koldbol race too/and gnoll from a race called koldingobul. He weilded HighMagic with the same if not more faculty than the light elves.He was even mighty enough to attract Lolth as his consort. He was the reason the sea elves of the
forgotten realms lost their magic(he took it!)
Sadly he suposedly died in the after math of the
highmagic ritual that created evermeet(the Sundering)right before he could conquer the lightelves. Basicly because of his highmagic,ablility to create a race who to this day hold all drow in awe millenia later something
few mages have been able to do,and his drowdom he reigns supreme in my heart.Check him out in the novels, realms of the arcane,Elves of evermeet. |
purge all weakness in the cleanzing flame of
rightousness.tear down the false idols of love,compassion,and self-sacrifice.down with the tyranny of the seldarine |
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darkflame millithor
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 02 May 2006 : 20:40:01
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are you asking about living mages or dead mages?
living mages-I hate to say it but I've read of her enough to not deny it,THE MOST POWERFUL MAGE is THE SIMBUL(capital letters for a capital, capable,caster. In elminster in hell,she proved her self to be supreme over some of the most powerful(I won't spoil it for u but check it out!) I thought el was the star but man!hold up!
By the way mordikinen of oerth and elminster both admitted to dalamar in "the wizards Three" that she could best both of them in open spell battle.now that's a beaming compliment and an honest one!
as far as dead wizards I must admit I'm racially
bias. The ilithiri mage KANARLIST from seacrets of blood/spirits in realms of the arcain(I think)
HE created the sahaugin race of the forgotten realms,and he had a hand in making the koldbol race too/and gnoll from a race called koldingobul. He weilded HighMagic with the same if not more faculty than the light elves.He was even mighty enough to attract Lolth as his consort. He was the reason the sea elves of the
forgotten realms lost their magic(he took it!)
Sadly he suposedly died in the after math of the
highmagic ritual that created evermeet(the Sundering)right before he could conquer the lightelves. Basicly because of his highmagic,ablility to create a race who to this day hold all drow in awe millenia later something
few mages have been able to do,and his drowdom he reigns supreme in my heart.Check him out in the novels, realms of the arcane,Elves of evermeet.
P.S. If karsus wasn't so darn insane and stupid(and human) he would reign supreme over all the others |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 03 May 2006 : 03:58:28
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In my perspective, the Simbul had the great potential to be a powerful archwizard but she is merely a walking timebomb to the realms.
The greatest spellcaster would had to be the Netherese archwizards such as Iolaum Lvl 41. Following it up should be Telamont Lvl 35, his powers are complimented by his active wise mind, making him a potent stable force for evil. Even Queen Amlaruil should be lined up with these two as well, her command of High Magics augmented with wisdom makes her a stable force for good. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2006 : 14:39:17
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Certainly - my vote goes to: Elminster the Old Sage! He simply is the most powerful and intersting, having out-"lived" them all, raised three of those that are also on this very poll themselves and being the only one who had an intimate experience with a god (or goddess in his case) and survived it. Besides - who are Khelben "Black"-what and Hallaster anyway?! ;)
Elminster rules! Hail to Elminster! Bravo!
Ergdusch
P.S.: One should never forget Azuth the Lord of Spells, who has made his way into the FR pantheon afterall, as well as Velsharoon Archmage of Necromany, who seems to be well on his way to true deity status. And what about Harkle Harpell??? Just a few thoughts in the aftermath... |
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The Cardinal
Senior Scribe
Canada
647 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2006 : 18:39:59
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The One and Only Karsus, You don't see that doddering Old El trying to Rip power from a God do ya  |
It has to be Certain, the Gods Hate Me. For whatever irrevokable Fate, I have been made the walking Joke. Either that, or Beshaba is overlyfond Of Me.
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2006 : 19:30:53
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| ... No Larloch? |
Planescape Fanatic
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 13:59:40
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Originally posted by The Cardinal
The One and Only Karsus, You don't see that doddering Old El trying to Rip power from a God do ya
Where though has the trying brought Karsus to? Only painful death and a world in chaos and ruins. (what a waste of potential, by the way.) Is not Wisdom and Forsight also part of determining a spellcasters greatness and power? |
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Sarephim
Acolyte
USA
33 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 18:23:37
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| What about Vhostym from the Erevis Cale Trilogy? I would think he would be on the list. Anyone who can single handedly kill millions and raze entire worlds has some serious power. |
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FridayThe13th
Learned Scribe
USA
132 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 14:00:24
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| Um, where is my favorite Archlich, LARLOCH!!!!! You forgot to add that uber-badass. Well, since he is not there I will vote for Szarss Tam. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 03:28:45
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
Um, where is my favorite Archlich, LARLOCH!!!!!
He's not an archlich. An archlich is another type of critter altogether -- it's a type of good-aligned lich. |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 03:29:53
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| He's an Ultralich. :) |
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danifae
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 16:26:24
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| I voted halastar, though on second thought I should've done elminster. However I've been greatly impressed by the undermountain. |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 16:32:32
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
Um, where is my favorite Archlich, LARLOCH!!!!!
He's not an archlich. An archlich is another type of critter altogether -- it's a type of good-aligned lich.
Larloch is a good lich ?!?
I agree with Gothicdan, he is described as an Ultralich...which really didn't mean anything, just a title to say he is a super-bad lich  |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jul 2006 : 16:51:41
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| Well, and also to mean he probably has abilities above and beyond those of other liches - the least of which that we know about being his curses. |
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FridayThe13th
Learned Scribe
USA
132 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 16:16:29
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
Um, where is my favorite Archlich, LARLOCH!!!!!
He's not an archlich. An archlich is another type of critter altogether -- it's a type of good-aligned lich.
Oh, sorry, I meant Ultralich. I thought Archlich and Ultralich were one and the same? I didn't know there were good liches. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 17:13:43
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
Um, where is my favorite Archlich, LARLOCH!!!!!
He's not an archlich. An archlich is another type of critter altogether -- it's a type of good-aligned lich.
Oh, sorry, I meant Ultralich. I thought Archlich and Ultralich were one and the same? I didn't know there were good liches.
Archlichs and baelnorns are two types of lich that are good-aligned. Alatheene Moonstar, in Waterdeep, is an archlich. I can't recall any named baelnorns off the top of my head, but Kuje's NPC list surely names a couple. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 17:38:14
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by FridayThe13th
Um, where is my favorite Archlich, LARLOCH!!!!!
He's not an archlich. An archlich is another type of critter altogether -- it's a type of good-aligned lich.
Oh, sorry, I meant Ultralich. I thought Archlich and Ultralich were one and the same? I didn't know there were good liches.
Archlichs and baelnorns are two types of lich that are good-aligned. Alatheene Moonstar, in Waterdeep, is an archlich. I can't recall any named baelnorns off the top of my head, but Kuje's NPC list surely names a couple.
Indeed it does, both the 1/2e version and the 3/3.5e version does. :) |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 18:13:49
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Originally posted by GothicDan
He's an Ultralich. :)
Talking about Ultralichs, and Druth Daern? 
Something new about him?
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 18:53:55
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| Druuth isn't an Ultralich! |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
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Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 19:25:07
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Originally posted by GothicDan
Druuth isn't an Ultralich!
Well, IŽll not say this too loud, nor too much close of Myth Drannor. 
HeŽs always lurking in the shadows, I swear this!
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 07 Aug 2006 : 20:57:36
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Fireballs?
Try Meteor Swarms and Chain Lightning. *Twitches at his only encounter with a lich, at least 10 levels higher than his character.* |
Planescape Fanatic
"Fiends and Undead are the peanut butter and jelly of evil." - Me
"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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Marc
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 30 Aug 2006 : 16:39:34
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| Karsus, of course. |
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