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Magus Rages
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  01:46:19  Show Profile  Visit Magus Rages's Homepage Send Magus Rages a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:
Hello everyone, I had just thought of a question and had been wondering for some time. All right, this poll asks all the scribes, veteran and elite scribes of candlekeep who you think is the best, most powerful, most superior spellcaster in the realms in terms of your own opinion, not based on some stats. A honest vote and honest reply is greatly appreciated, I express my thanks to all in advance. Thank you.


Choices:

Halaster Blackcloak
Elminister the Old Sage
Telamont Tanthul
Alassra Silverhand(Alassra Shentrantra)
Laeral Silverhand(Anamanue Laeral)
Manshoon
Szass Tam
Vangerdahast
Sammaster
Karsus
Endue Alustriel (Alustriel Silverhand)
Khelben Blackstaff Arunsun

(Anonymous Vote)

Arivia
Great Reader

Canada
2879 Posts

Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  02:02:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Awesome. Another version of this thread, this time with a poll and no discussion. I'll take the staggeringly old one with lots of lore in it, thank you very much.
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  02:11:02  Show Profile  Click to see Crennen FaerieBane's MSN Messenger address Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Uhm - Go Szass Tam! Well, I have to vote that way, since he's my dog!

C-Fb

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Kianna
Learned Scribe

USA
155 Posts

Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  02:31:44  Show Profile  Visit Kianna's Homepage  Click to see Kianna's MSN Messenger address Send Kianna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Szass-man rules!

Huzzah!
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader

USA
7106 Posts

Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  02:52:32  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted Elminster, not only because of his levels , but also because of his experience, and the fact that his tempers the use of his powers with wisdom.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  02:58:54  Show Profile  Click to see Crennen FaerieBane's MSN Messenger address Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Removed at the moderators request.

C-Fb


Still rockin' the Fey'ri style.

Edited by - Crennen FaerieBane on 26 Oct 2005 03:07:34
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  03:00:58  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

Removed by moderator. :)



But...but...he didn't raise the Simbul.

And come on, you gotta admit El has more good qualities than bad ones.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)

Edited by - Kuje on 26 Oct 2005 03:08:57
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  03:03:07  Show Profile  Click to see Crennen FaerieBane's MSN Messenger address Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry... I was joking about the Simbul, wasn't trying to start any false rumors.

And El does have more good qualities than bad, I admit. H

C-Fb

Still rockin' the Fey'ri style.

Edited by - Crennen FaerieBane on 26 Oct 2005 03:05:55
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  03:12:45  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

Sorry... I was joking about the Simbul, wasn't trying to start any false rumors.

C-Fb



I didn't think you were. :)


"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time)
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  04:19:03  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I had to vote for Karsus, after all he the wrench away the power of a god for a brief time.

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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  04:35:50  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is Alassra Silverhand the Simbul?

Btw, I would go for Larloch

Edited by - Skeptic on 26 Oct 2005 04:36:48
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  05:33:29  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

Is Alassra Silverhand the Simbul?




Yes.

"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Darkheyr
Learned Scribe

264 Posts

Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  08:33:09  Show Profile  Visit Darkheyr's Homepage  Send Darkheyr an ICQ Message  Click to see Darkheyr's MSN Messenger address Send Darkheyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Me!

And... /signed @Arivia.

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Talanfir Swiftfeet
Learned Scribe

Finland
143 Posts

Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  08:48:31  Show Profile  Visit Talanfir Swiftfeet's Homepage Send Talanfir Swiftfeet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Halaster would be the greatest if he only got his head together.

I am Talanfir Swiftfeet. (In)famous across the Swoardcoast as "Tal the Swift", Brandobaris´ seraph of mischief. If ye find yer shoelaces tied together while trying to catch a thief or meet a king who is angry because somebody switched the places of his chamberpot and his crown, ye can usually (try to) find me near.

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Misericordia
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Italy
66 Posts

Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  09:59:19  Show Profile  Visit Misericordia's Homepage Send Misericordia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Karsus rules! Maybe not for a long time...but rulez!

Omnia sunt communia.
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore

Brazil
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  12:15:57  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage  Click to see Chosen of Moradin's MSN Messenger address Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My vote go to Elminster. The old one is very wise in the use of the magic and of her other abilities...

Now... if Iolaum was in the list....
After all, he was all that Karsus was... but with good sense

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Amraz one arm
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Netherlands
42 Posts

Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  12:47:29  Show Profile  Visit Amraz one arm's Homepage Send Amraz one arm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ioulaum. By far. Not only was he the greatest genuis to come forth from the netheril empire. But he's still alive, kind of...

"You smell human to me."
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sabre
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Turkey
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  18:18:00  Show Profile  Send sabre an ICQ Message Send sabre a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Unquestionably and undisputed,the most dangerous mage in the realms...Not because he is a marvellous talent in the "art",and also he is marvellous in the spinning webbed conpiracies of sinister drow city!!Ladies and gentleman i prensent you:Gromph Ba'enre The archmage of Menzoberranzan and first son of House Ba'enre!!

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hooper101
Learned Scribe

USA
117 Posts

Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  19:53:30  Show Profile  Visit hooper101's Homepage Send hooper101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ahhh no Harkel Harpell! Come on! I voted El beacause he was able to help just about all the others in a problem of spellfire. Shandrel should have been on the list although shes not that sage.

Die, die, die ,die, die, why won't you just die you silly dragon!
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Forge
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USA
218 Posts

Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  19:56:57  Show Profile  Visit Forge's Homepage  Send Forge a Yahoo! Message Send Forge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted Zass Tam cause Karsis isn't IN the Realms anymore, and ELminster has so much divine influence governing his spells and actions that he's hard to take serious as a straight mage.
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khorne
Master of Realmslore

Finland
1071 Posts

Posted - 27 Oct 2005 :  13:20:48  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage  Click to see khorne's MSN Messenger address Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sabre

Unquestionably and undisputed,the most dangerous mage in the realms...Not because he is a marvellous talent in the "art",and also he is marvellous in the spinning webbed conpiracies of sinister drow city!!Ladies and gentleman i prensent you:Gromph Ba'enre The archmage of Menzoberranzan and first son of House Ba'enre!!

Gromph? My impression of him is that Halaster or Elminster could squash him like a bug.

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Rocheval
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Posted - 27 Oct 2005 :  19:46:51  Show Profile  Visit Rocheval's Homepage Send Rocheval a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know were not supposed to respond, as its strictly a poll, but I chose curtain #2, the guy with the half-working Frigid-aire. Alassra, Karsus, Ioulum, and maybe Telamont have more in terms of raw power but El is the most cagey fighter of them all. He'll bend like a reed in the storm but will not break and then somehow turn your spells against you. Although, it was mentioned somewhere that Alassra could best both Mordenkainen and Elminister in a wide open spell battle!

"I will vanish into the night; change my body to wood or stone; sink into the earth and walk through locked doors. I will be killed many times, yet will not die" excerpt from Ninja No Chigri (Way of the Tiger series)
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warlockco
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Posted - 28 Oct 2005 :  00:38:35  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rocheval

I know were not supposed to respond, as its strictly a poll, but I chose curtain #2, the guy with the half-working Frigid-aire. Alassra, Karsus, Ioulum, and maybe Telamont have more in terms of raw power but El is the most cagey fighter of them all. He'll bend like a reed in the storm but will not break and then somehow turn your spells against you. Although, it was mentioned somewhere that Alassra could best both Mordenkainen and Elminister in a wide open spell battle!



Not sure about the 3E stats, haven't really looked at them.

But in 2E the Simbul was the most powerful of the Chosen.

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Rocheval
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Posted - 28 Oct 2005 :  01:47:27  Show Profile  Visit Rocheval's Homepage Send Rocheval a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe not only the the most powerful of the Chosen, but in Ed's own words, "Perhaps the greatest living human master of magic,..." Of course his words can be considered parsed that for one thing there were more powerful archmages before her time, and the phrase excludes any undead spell-casters or non-human ones that exist today. I don't have any 3ed products and I haven't played in a decade, but I hope the powers that be keep Ed's power hierarchy of archmages the same.

"I will vanish into the night; change my body to wood or stone; sink into the earth and walk through locked doors. I will be killed many times, yet will not die" excerpt from Ninja No Chigri (Way of the Tiger series)
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore

USA
1378 Posts

Posted - 28 Oct 2005 :  02:01:39  Show Profile  Click to see Crennen FaerieBane's MSN Messenger address Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't believe that anyway - Halastar is easily a match if not greater than The Simbul.

C-Fb

Still rockin' the Fey'ri style.
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Kianna
Learned Scribe

USA
155 Posts

Posted - 28 Oct 2005 :  02:08:54  Show Profile  Visit Kianna's Homepage  Click to see Kianna's MSN Messenger address Send Kianna a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But Szasser could take 'em both!

Huzzah!
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