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Xysma
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 24 Oct 2005 :  15:54:39  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Poll Question:
We all know there are evil organizations across Faerun, which begs the question, "Who do we love to hate the most?" I've listed the major players in the war on goodness, but there are certainly more than twelve, so someone's favorite may have been left out. For that I am truly sorry, but pick your second favorite . I've intentionally left out "Church of (enter evil god here)" since that would likely degenerate into an argument over whose favorite god is more powerful.

Choices:

Rundeen Consortium
Zhentarim
Twisted Rune
Cult of the Dragon
Night Masks
Iron Throne
Knights of the Shield
Kraken Society
Shadow Thieves
House Dlardrageth
Eldreth Veluuthra
Red Wizards

(Anonymous Vote)

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sleyvas
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You racist from the west <g>. Where's all the eastern power groups? Ahem, the red wizards of Thay? The cult of Tiamat? The Cult of Set? The shadowmasters of Telflamm? The shadow mages of chessenta? The nine golden swords? The demon cultists of Narfell? The Blightlords? The Durthans? The witches of Rashemen (still not convinced they're all good)?

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

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DestroyYouAlot
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Posted - 24 Oct 2005 :  17:37:17  Show Profile  Visit DestroyYouAlot's Homepage  Send DestroyYouAlot an AOL message  Send DestroyYouAlot a Yahoo! Message Send DestroyYouAlot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Red Wizards are definitely conspicuous by their absence, here.

I've got to say, I'm a sentimental old traditionalist. In my humble opinion, the Zhentarim are just so damn versatile - whether it's low level or high, no matter where you are in the Realms, whatever monkey business and dirty dealing you want done, you can always turn to those wacky, fun-loving Z-guys. I tend to use several different villains/organizations in any given campaign, but they're always in the mix, somewhere.
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Misericordia
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Italy
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Posted - 24 Oct 2005 :  18:33:06  Show Profile  Visit Misericordia's Homepage Send Misericordia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good old Zhents...

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 24 Oct 2005 :  18:48:12  Show Profile  Click to see Crennen FaerieBane's MSN Messenger address Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I voted for House Dlardrageth... I am unabashedly in love with Sarya.

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Kajehase
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Nah, the Twisted Rune for me, nothing like a bunch of master-minding undead evil mages trying to run a whole region from behind the scenes.

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Thysl
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Posted - 24 Oct 2005 :  20:15:53  Show Profile  Visit Thysl's Homepage Send Thysl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zhents: they make sense to me, they seem realisic; they've gone through huge power struggles, 2 religious cullings, lost cities, gained cities, etc.
A close second is Dlardrageth. They look cool and - I got your back, Crennen - Sarya is HOT!!

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DestroyYouAlot
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Posted - 24 Oct 2005 :  20:25:10  Show Profile  Visit DestroyYouAlot's Homepage  Send DestroyYouAlot an AOL message  Send DestroyYouAlot a Yahoo! Message Send DestroyYouAlot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

Nah, the Twisted Rune for me, nothing like a bunch of master-minding undead evil mages trying to run a whole region from behind the scenes.



"Trying"? ;)
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Thelonius
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Posted - 24 Oct 2005 :  20:35:46  Show Profile  Click to see Thelonius's MSN Messenger address Send Thelonius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've chosen the Eldreth Veluuthra, as long as I find fascinating the idea of the racist faction of such a fancy race as the elves. A race that has always been represented as the perfection the human ones couldn't reach, endless life, perpetual youth such a perfect looking..., can fall too in the failures of them...

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Kajehase
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quote:
Originally posted by DestroyYouAlot

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

Nah, the Twisted Rune for me, nothing like a bunch of master-minding undead evil mages trying to run a whole region from behind the scenes.



"Trying"? ;)



Well, they've not quite gotten Tethyr and Amn under their thumbs yet

There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 24 Oct 2005 :  20:57:19  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Zhentarim! While I realize that they wouldn't be as powerful as they are if they were truly idiotic, I have to be honest. They've given me plenty of laughs over the years.

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Wooly Rupert
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Most of the groups listed are after either money or power, be it political power or arcane might. That's kinda boring, for me. That's why I picked the Eldreth Veluuthra -- a bunch of xenophobic elves is more interesting than someone grubbing for money or magic.

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Forge
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Posted - 24 Oct 2005 :  21:10:46  Show Profile  Visit Forge's Homepage  Send Forge a Yahoo! Message Send Forge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I personally favor Thay. On one hand they are reprehensible and thoroughly corrupt on nearly all levels, but on the other hand they are an acknowledged sovereignty that you can't just write off as a splinter group or religious nuts.

I mean, c'mon, generation of wizards who don't have to worry about the constraints of law or conscience? Yup, evil at it's best. (worst?)
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The Sage
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Posted - 25 Oct 2005 :  01:43:18  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's the Twisted Rune for me.

When it comes to matters of manipulation and the cunning use of magic... no other evil-aligned group has these aspects down to a fine art. And their interest in Calimshan is another reason for my choice, since it is a favorite region of the Realms for me.

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Shadovar
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I voted Cult of the Dragon, I like how they run their organization and enjoyed watching those lunatics going round convincing wyrms to take up the mantle of undeath especially that Sammaster got some sort of charisma. Second it up will be the Eldreth Veluuthra, for they exhibit elven patriotism which is quite lacking in most elves.

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warlockco
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Posted - 25 Oct 2005 :  02:35:01  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zhents, they have a bit of everything.

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Arivia
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Posted - 25 Oct 2005 :  02:42:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Eldreth Veluuthra.

For some reason, I just inexplicably like the concept of a group of xenophobic, ultra-conservative elves.
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Steven Schend
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Posted - 25 Oct 2005 :  03:04:02  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You all realize, of course, the Twisted Rune will subliminally influence your votes to drive themselves back into the shadows, from whence they can manipulate all the above groups at their leisure.....

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 25 Oct 2005 :  03:06:51  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

quote:
Originally posted by DestroyYouAlot

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

Nah, the Twisted Rune for me, nothing like a bunch of master-minding undead evil mages trying to run a whole region from behind the scenes.



"Trying"? ;)



Well, they've not quite gotten Tethyr and Amn under their thumbs yet


That's what they want you to think....

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Dargoth
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Posted - 25 Oct 2005 :  03:27:08  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Well, they've not quite gotten Tethyr and Amn under their thumbs yet


That's what they want you to think....
[/quote]


I wonder if thats a confession?

George let the cat out of the bag saying that theres "Lands of Intrigue" update in the works

SO Steven been up to anything lately???

Wooly: Fetch the RACK!

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

You all realize, of course, the Twisted Rune will subliminally influence your votes to drive themselves back into the shadows, from whence they can manipulate all the above groups at their leisure.....

You know, I had a funny feeling you were going to say something like that .

But they're not manipulating my choice. ::shakes head:: Nope. No way... they aren't .

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warlockco
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quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Well, they've not quite gotten Tethyr and Amn under their thumbs yet


That's what they want you to think....




I wonder if thats a confession?

George let the cat out of the bag saying that theres "Lands of Intrigue" update in the works

SO Steven been up to anything lately???

Wooly: Fetch the RACK!
[/quote]

I'll get the thumbscrews.

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Arivia
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quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
quote:

Well, they've not quite gotten Tethyr and Amn under their thumbs yet


That's what they want you to think....




I wonder if thats a confession?

George let the cat out of the bag saying that theres "Lands of Intrigue" update in the works

SO Steven been up to anything lately???

Wooly: Fetch the RACK!



I'll get the thumbscrews.



*starts making Intimidate checks*
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khorne
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quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
quote:

Well, they've not quite gotten Tethyr and Amn under their thumbs yet


That's what they want you to think....




I wonder if thats a confession?

George let the cat out of the bag saying that theres "Lands of Intrigue" update in the works

SO Steven been up to anything lately???

Wooly: Fetch the RACK!



I'll get the thumbscrews.



*starts making Intimidate checks*

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Khaa
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Posted - 25 Oct 2005 :  14:01:31  Show Profile  Visit Khaa's Homepage Send Khaa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I agree with Sleyas, where is The Red Wizards of Thay?

Anyone ever think of the Flaming Hand as evil? My beliefs are they are D&D's Templars. Anyone else think so?

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Xysma
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Posted - 25 Oct 2005 :  17:01:56  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by DestroyYouAlot

The Red Wizards are definitely conspicuous by their absence, here.




I tend to think of the Red Wizards on a grander scale, they rule an entire country, not just an organization, hence their absence. (I know, The Twisted Rune rules even more than that, but nobody knows it!) By popular demand, I have gone back and added them, since the general consensus seems to be that they should be on this list.

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