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Nightbreeze
Acolyte
Italy
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 Posted - 11 Jun 2006 : 00:25:29
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Originally posted by The Hooded One
I quite understand your position, Nightbreeze, but there's a BIG difference between the way Ed Greenwood (who created the character) writes Storm, and the way other writers handle her. None of the specific examples you cite are Ed-penned, and most Realms scribes view them as very "out of character" for Storm.
Now if you want crazy in your Seven, The Simbul's your woman.
love,
THO
Well then, that's good to know. I was starting to veiw her as the old crazy cat-thrower from the simpsons
As for Alassra....don't know. She is of course a little bit insane ( a little?  ) but she is insane only about thayans. That's not something unique ( but i think that if her cake tasted bad, she would blame a Thayan conspiracy...traitors, infiltrator! Boooom, splash, sbong! Fireballs, lightnings and energy beams all over the place!  ) However i find it...just amusing...while the way Storm was portrayed was getting me really angry at her...and yes, reading the RotA novel i really hoped that Aglarel kicked her nice butt....just a little....
However, that nude-woodchopping intrigues me
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Ergdusch
Master of Realmslore
Germany
1720 Posts |
Posted - 19 Jun 2006 : 14:45:05
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Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Dove.
Rangers represent!
Hail to Dove - the true free spirit!
A Ranger (reprensents) |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 00:33:11
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I've said this already, probably, but it's well worth saying again...Storm.
She's just so down to earth, the kind of person I'd love to chat with. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 00:42:43
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| Some of my favorite Storm moments are from the Shadows of the Avatar trilogy. Its interesting to see her operate solo, training new Harpers, and playing the diplomat when she is trying to get to the bottom of a few mysteries. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jun 2006 : 00:50:54
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Some of my favorite Storm moments are from the Shadows of the Avatar trilogy. Its interesting to see her operate solo, training new Harpers, and playing the diplomat when she is trying to get to the bottom of a few mysteries.
Yes, I enjoyed those, myself! I can't recall a Storm story that I didn't like, to be honest. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Sarephim
Acolyte
USA
33 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 02:31:19
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Sadly enough I don't like any of them...
Now I'm not saying that shouldn't be powerful... but I mean come on at least give those Red Wizards a chance. All throughout the Archwizard's Trilogy I was rooting for the Shadovar... and to see them so easily defeated... ack. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 21 Jun 2006 : 04:25:18
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Originally posted by Sarephim
Sadly enough I don't like any of them...
Now I'm not saying that shouldn't be powerful... but I mean come on at least give those Red Wizards a chance. All throughout the Archwizard's Trilogy I was rooting for the Shadovar... and to see them so easily defeated... ack.
But if they win, they would hurt a lot of people. :-/ |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Aglaranna
Learned Scribe
166 Posts |
Posted - 23 Nov 2006 : 23:48:47
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by Sarephim
Sadly enough I don't like any of them...
Now I'm not saying that shouldn't be powerful... but I mean come on at least give those Red Wizards a chance. All throughout the Archwizard's Trilogy I was rooting for the Shadovar... and to see them so easily defeated... ack.
But if they win, they would hurt a lot of people. :-/
Couldn't they have at least put up a fight? The bad guys are losing their touch! |
"You can choose a ready guide
In some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears
And kindness that can kill
I will choose the path that's clear
I will choose freewill." -'Freewill' by Rush |
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dwarvenranger
Senior Scribe
USA
428 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2006 : 00:08:18
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| Gotta be Dove, truen enough a freer spirit has been never born in these Realms. 'Sides no woman wears leathers better. Now I just gotta outlive that Florin fellow |
If I waited till I knew what I was doing, I'd never get anything done.
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Aglaranna
Learned Scribe
166 Posts |
Posted - 24 Nov 2006 : 22:34:26
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"You can choose a ready guide
In some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears
And kindness that can kill
I will choose the path that's clear
I will choose freewill." -'Freewill' by Rush |
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Alediran
Acolyte
Argentina
36 Posts |
Posted - 27 Nov 2006 : 14:26:33
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| It's hard to make a single choice, the top 3 in my list would be Qilué, Alustriel and Laeral. |
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1176 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 23:05:38
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Have just bought a copy of Stormlight.
Storms last chance for me not to hate her after behaving badly in the Avatars and the Last Mythal Trilogies |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 23:10:01
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Originally posted by Kaladorm
Have just bought a copy of Stormlight.
Storms last chance for me not to hate her after behaving badly in the Avatars and the Last Mythal Trilogies
The best way to understand Storm's character is to read novels written by her creator, Ed Greenwood...and Stormlight is one such novel.
The novels you mentioned were created by people who didn't create the character. I will say, though, that I didn't think Storm behaved "badly" in the Last Mythal trilogy, she was simply rather grim and serious (unlike how Ed portrays her) and kind of bland. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Kaladorm
Master of Realmslore
United Kingdom
1176 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2006 : 23:13:25
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I realised I might be misinterpreted there but was too lazy to write a longer post
I didn't mean behaved badly as such, but I didn't like how she handled the situation. She was a little too haughty for my liking, like she was coaxing the military leaders into finding the 'right' solution themselves, whilst knowing full well what was effective.
Almost like a teacher trying to coax a pupil to learn on their own, and I think that's great but a warzone is not the best place for people to 'learn from their mistakes'. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 29 Nov 2006 : 01:20:15
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| Actually yeah, I agree that she sort of came off as haughty in that novel. Which isn't what she's supposed to be like at all. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Marquant Volker
Learned Scribe
Greece
273 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 11:26:37
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| Alustriel: the wise mage, the kind ruler, the beautyful woman |
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Swordcoast Wanderer
Acolyte
Canada
10 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 14:05:13
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| I picked Dove shes not quite as overpowered as all the others. |
"Why do they always come when I need to relieve myself? Tymora if you're listening-tell me that!" |
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Blueblade
Senior Scribe
USA
804 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 14:15:32
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Hmm. This brings up the old debate about what's "overpowered." These aren't - - and never were - - player characters. They are mortals bred by a goddess to be her divine servants. From that point of view, a good argument can be made that they're UNDERpowered.
I did ask Ed at a long-ago Gencon about why Dove was magically weaker than the rest, and he said it was due to Mystra "molding each Chosen to serve her as their innate natures and individual talents best allow."
Not trying to start a fight here, just pointing out the underlying lore.
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore
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Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 14:19:36
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And without comment on Blueblade's post (other than to confirm his quotation of Ed), Ed tells me that Dove "in action" will appear briefly in the second Knights of Myth Drannor novel, SWORDS OF DRAGONFIRE.
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Swordcoast Wanderer
Acolyte
Canada
10 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2006 : 14:30:22
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Originally posted by Blueblade
Hmm. This brings up the old debate about what's "overpowered." These aren't - - and never were - - player characters. They are mortals bred by a goddess to be her divine servants. From that point of view, a good argument can be made that they're UNDERpowered.
I did ask Ed at a long-ago Gencon about why Dove was magically weaker than the rest, and he said it was due to Mystra "molding each Chosen to serve her as their innate natures and individual talents best allow."
Not trying to start a fight here, just pointing out the underlying lore.
I suppose your right, I just that they approach the power of Elminster at least in 2nd Edition and they have far less experience(He raised most of them). However, on the same note maybe Elminster's underpowered? |
"Why do they always come when I need to relieve myself? Tymora if you're listening-tell me that!" |
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Korginard
Learned Scribe
USA
126 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2006 : 15:23:41
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I admire them all, but if I were forced at wand point to pick one I suppose I'd go with Sylune. (Although no wand was involved so I voted for all of them)
From everything I read she was a caring compasionate woman who made time for everyone who needed her. I like her idea for creating good in the realms by picking a small community and nurturing it and it's people. I love the idea of an imensely powerfull personage spending her days playing with children, healing the ill, and serving the good people arround her.
She truely loved the people of Shadowdale to the point where she gave her life for them. Did she know she'd "Live" on as a spirit? Perhaps, but it was still a huge sacrifice. She had to give up being there for the people of the dale as she had been. She can still watch over folk, but can never again be the kind mother figure of the dale, which I believe she cherished greatly and misses terribly.
This sacrifice and the good she still does makes her one of my favorites.
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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Ranin
Seeker
88 Posts |
Posted - 12 Dec 2006 : 23:03:56
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| Yes the Simbul is my favorite even though I now almost nothing of the seven sisters |
Listen to the silence of the wilds, in there lies the wisdom of ages. |
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Aravine
Senior Scribe
USA
608 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 00:09:47
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| the simbul is crazy. literatly. she is considered by her people to be crazy. there is nothing cooler than a insane spellcaster that also happens to be an insane leader. |
The brave don't live forever,the cautious don't live at all |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 12:04:34
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Originally posted by aravine
the simbul is crazy. literatly. she is considered by her people to be crazy. there is nothing cooler than a insane spellcaster that also happens to be an insane leader.
Well that would depend on how much you had to depend on her yourself. The Simbuls insanity is directed more outwards than inwards when it comes to her role as ruler. Thankfully for her subjects I would say. |
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Aravine
Senior Scribe
USA
608 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 12:52:31
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Originally posted by aravine
the simbul is crazy. literatly. she is considered by her people to be crazy. there is nothing cooler than a insane spellcaster that also happens to be an insane leader.
I had to personally get the simbul that one city of Nethril did not fall. I didn't know she was insane until after this encounter |
The brave don't live forever,the cautious don't live at all |
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Haman
Seeker
USA
60 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 15:18:38
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Ayup, the Simbul.
She's been cracking up due to all of her "magical alterations" shes been doing to herself, I think they discuss it in the old FR Seven Sisters. |
Some people say we gamers have no lives....I think we have too many. |
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sirreus
Learned Scribe
USA
118 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 15:41:56
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the simbul, after reading the simbal's gift. she is confident competent and follows her ideal of rightness. she's not nearly insane as the common folks complain because the common folk would, themselves, go insane were they dealing with the fate of the realms on a daily basis. she also wipes the floor with any thayan wizard she comes across.
If I know I'm going crazy;
I must not be insane. -- Dave Mustaine |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 05 Oct 2007 : 18:20:06
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Originally posted by Haman
Ayup, the Simbul.
She's been cracking up due to all of her "magical alterations" shes been doing to herself, I think they discuss it in the old FR Seven Sisters.
Nope. It is mentioned in there that many people believe her sanity has been affected by the numerous spells she's placed on herself, but nowhere in the text does it state or even imply that her sanity really has suffered. |
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GRYPHON
Senior Scribe
USA
527 Posts |
Posted - 02 Dec 2007 : 19:01:03
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Favorite Seven Sister
