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Dargoth
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Posted - 09 Sep 2005 :  01:31:36  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Anyone managed to get their hands on it yet?

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Not as yet.

Do you know its Australian release date Dargoth?

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Dargoth
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Posted - 09 Sep 2005 :  02:21:13  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Apparently end of the Month they ordered it on Monday

the North American scribes will likely have it sooner

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jameslt0
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I didnt think it was released in the US yet.

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Noble Knight Games seems to have copies, and I just ordered one, along with Castle Zagyg: Yggsburgh and some magazines. (I note that the blurb sells the Realms as 'classic high fantasy', when Peter Archer said it was 'sword and sorcery', which is what I'd go with.)
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Dargoth
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Posted - 09 Sep 2005 :  06:02:17  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Faraer

Noble Knight Games seems to have copies, and I just ordered one, along with Castle Zagyg: Yggsburgh and some magazines. (I note that the blurb sells the Realms as 'classic high fantasy', when Peter Archer said it was 'sword and sorcery', which is what I'd go with.)



Looks like you'll have the duty then

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Sep 2005 :  11:24:14  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I recall seeing today as the release date for this tome. I know I'll be looking for it as I'm out and about, mańana...

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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 09 Sep 2005 :  14:31:13  Show Profile  Click to see Crennen FaerieBane's MSN Messenger address Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think it got pushed back along with Magic of the Incarnum. There was a message posted on the WotC homepage saying that MotI was pushed back, and they usually like to penny pinch and ship everything together.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 09 Sep 2005 :  15:04:52  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fane of the Drow (another September release) is out

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EvilKnight
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Posted - 09 Sep 2005 :  15:21:23  Show Profile  Visit EvilKnight's Homepage Send EvilKnight a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Paizo has it up to buy.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Sep 2005 :  23:57:24  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
According to an email from my FLGS, it's available now. So I'll have it tomorrow.

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Kuje
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I tried to get this today but the comic guy didn't have it. :( He had Fane of the Drow and the modern book though but I only grabbed Fane. I guess he has to order me Sons.

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Patrakis
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I could grab a copy today.

It has 32 pages with a nice cover painting but all black and white interiors. The inside art is very disappointing to me i must say (average photocopy quality).It's for level 4 characters.

The action mostly takes place in an old orc Bastion called XUL-JARAK (The gray citadel). The adventurer starts in the city of Melvaunt.

SPOILER....

- OROGs are used extensively.
- There is a full description of a fable artifact called the Hammer of Grummsh.
- The story is centered around an invasion of the moonsea region by an orc horde.

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Dargoth
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Posted - 10 Sep 2005 :  08:47:42  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Patrakis

I could grab a copy today.

It has 32 pages with a nice cover painting but all black and white interiors. The inside art is very disappointing to me i must say (average photocopy quality).It's for level 4 characters.

The action mostly takes place in an old orc Bastion called XUL-JARAK (The gray citadel). The adventurer starts in the city of Melvaunt.

SPOILER....

- OROGs are used extensively.
- There is a full description of a fable artifact called the Hammer of Grummsh.
- The story is centered around an invasion of the moonsea region by an orc horde.

Pat



Im guessing the Hammer of Gruumsh is the weapon the Orog Warlord mini in Angelfire is using

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Sanishiver
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I just ordered it online from EnWorld. Hope to have it by Thursday or Friday next week!

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Posted - 10 Sep 2005 :  10:52:45  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage  Click to see Alaundo's MSN Messenger address Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Patrakis

I could grab a copy today.

It has 32 pages with a nice cover painting but all black and white interiors. The inside art is very disappointing to me i must say (average photocopy quality).It's for level 4 characters.

The action mostly takes place in an old orc Bastion called XUL-JARAK (The gray citadel). The adventurer starts in the city of Melvaunt.

SPOILER....

- OROGs are used extensively.
- There is a full description of a fable artifact called the Hammer of Grummsh.
- The story is centered around an invasion of the moonsea region by an orc horde.

Pat



Well met

Thank ye for the information, Patrakis, this is very useful. Tell me, are there any maps contained within?

Does you (anyone) plan on running this module soon? I'd appreciate ye posting herein with thy thoughts.

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Patrakis
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Well met,

SPOILER...

First, Dargoth, i cant guess at the origin of the Hammer. In the adventure, It does belong to an Orog named Thrull, a level 9 fighter.

Alaundo, the adventure does contain maps. A complete description of the Bastion called Xul-Jarak. The 2 above ground levels and the 4 dungeons levels.

If i can comment, i find the maps, to my taste, and like in all FR products, very uninspired and blend. But that is just me.

I cant comment on the adventure yet because i haven't found the time to read it. Let's just say i hope it is better than the packaging :)

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Wooly Rupert
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I just got home from wandering... I picked up Sons of Gruumsh, but I'll not have time to flip thru it until later.

Those of you who have paid attention to my feelings of WotC artwork may find this line a bit shocking: I kinda like the cover art!

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Patrakis
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I agree Wooly, the cover art is the one exception about the packaging that i like.

Hey, we agree on something :)

JK

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warlockco
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Posted - 11 Sep 2005 :  03:24:46  Show Profile  Visit warlockco's Homepage Send warlockco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I just got home from wandering... I picked up Sons of Gruumsh, but I'll not have time to flip thru it until later.

Those of you who have paid attention to my feelings of WotC artwork may find this line a bit shocking: I kinda like the cover art!



Well Todd Lockwood did do the cover art. Unfortunately the interior art doesn't hold up, but then again, what would in comparision?

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by warlockco

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I just got home from wandering... I picked up Sons of Gruumsh, but I'll not have time to flip thru it until later.

Those of you who have paid attention to my feelings of WotC artwork may find this line a bit shocking: I kinda like the cover art!



Well Todd Lockwood did do the cover art. Unfortunately the interior art doesn't hold up, but then again, what would in comparision?



Well, I've spent much time bemoaning the lack of really good artwork. Remember, I got into TSR stuff when they had Larry Elmore, Clyde Caldwell, and Jeff Easley doing the exterior art, and Valerie Valusek doing some of the interior art. I think they've yet to return to that level of outstanding artwork.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Well, I've spent much time bemoaning the lack of really good artwork. Remember, I got into TSR stuff when they had Larry Elmore, Clyde Caldwell, and Jeff Easley doing the exterior art, and Valerie Valusek doing some of the interior art. I think they've yet to return to that level of outstanding artwork.
Indeed.

The works of both Elmore and Easley for the DL setting were part of the reason for the saga's early success as both a novel and game line.

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I was surprised to even find out that WOTC published a Forgotten Realms adventure! Regardless of the modules few short coomings let us hope it is one of the many new adventures that lay ahead. :)
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Patrakis
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It is a very good read so far. The first part of the adventure gives a lot of good background on the city of Melvaunt. Mostly on the 5 major families that pretty much rule the place.

Perkins can do incredible things with a simple plot.

So far so good for me. I gettin in the citadel of Xul-Jarak right now :)

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Crennen FaerieBane
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Well, I've spent much time bemoaning the lack of really good artwork. Remember, I got into TSR stuff when they had Larry Elmore, Clyde Caldwell, and Jeff Easley doing the exterior art, and Valerie Valusek doing some of the interior art. I think they've yet to return to that level of outstanding artwork.
Indeed.

The works of both Elmore and Easley for the DL setting were part of the reason for the saga's early success as both a novel and game line.




I really enjoyed a lot of the early art for 3E - especially Lockwood's art, which I continue to enjoy today. I also am quite fond of Wayne Reynolds art - which is a shame since they snatched him up as the official artist of Eberron. I think his pictures, though a little cartoony, capture the high fantasy in both the core world and FR. Oh well, beggars can't be choosers.

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warlockco
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Only one big problem I can see with this adventure.
I don't know of too many parties that can play as a "commando" type force. And without that type of approach, I can very easily see a TPK with this adventure, or at least that is my take.


As to my own groups, we are very wishy-washy on how "stealthy" we can be. Every single cyber-punk campaign I have been in (as Player or GM) has resulted in an event that is visable from Orbit. And several of those people are in my D&D group.

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