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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
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 Posted - 19 Sep 2005 : 14:19:18
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I'd start with these:
Sembia Series
Cleric Quintet
Eliminster Series |
“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”
"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 21 Sep 2005 : 19:57:49
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Originally posted by Brom Greenstar
which of the newest trilogies should I purchase? I've already planned to buy scions of arrabar and my latest reading has been the return of the archwizards and counselors and kings
what i want is to buy something to keep up with the events of the realms that's also a good reading, and to be honest i have a limited budget (marriage is not so good for the hobby)
The Year of Rogue Dragons trilogy has excellent characters and dialogue as well as interesting information about dragons. Contrary to what one might think looking the book covers, it isn't just about people fighting off dragons, it's much more complex and interesting than that. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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The Twin Scimitars
Seeker
USA
96 Posts |
Posted - 22 Sep 2005 : 04:24:09
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Endure, in enduring we grow strong.
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DrJackal
Acolyte
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Posted - 23 Sep 2005 : 15:12:51
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The Wyvern's Spur trilogy -- a fun read, and it leads up to the installation of a new god. Plus, Giogoni Wyvernspur is one of most nicest guys in the Realms, and I know Olive has inspired some halfling bards out there.
The Simbul's Gift -- The best-written FR novel in my opinion, as well as the best example of how even a godawful powerful character (The Simbul) can't always fight a foe by gazotting everyone in sight. The Simbul's concerns about her family are great, and the exchange between her and Alustriel about childcare was a hoot.
Starlight and Shadows trilogy -- I adore Liriel. Not really good, not really bad, with a better explanation of her non-typical outlook than Drizzt got. She does things, she takes risks, she changes, she has something to lose...and she does.
Elfshadow, Elfsong, Silver Shadows: If you want to read about elves, I'd start here. They're good adventure stories with great characters, and the nuances of elven society and psychology are woven into the plot.
ETA:
Finder's Bane
Prince of Lies
I'd recommend both of these books because they deal with the gods of Faerun, in different ways. Finder's Bane is an example of how a human might react upon being elevated to godhood if said human isn't entirely comfortable with it. Prince of Lies deals more with the politics of the gods, how they interact with each other, and how their nature inhibits them in certain ways. Mystra points out that only the gods who were once human can see another's viewpoint; the rest, being created (or imported) for a specific duty, can't. |
"I was never on anyone's side in the first place, so how could I betray them?" -- Akabane Kuroudo.
"No man is a black magician in his own eyes." --- Richard Cavendish, The Black Arts |
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Beezy
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 01 Oct 2005 : 05:40:32
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I started with Spellfire, my brother loaned it to me somehting like 10 years or more ago. I instantly fell in love with that novel. I didn't overly care for the other 2 in Shandril's saga but Spellfire is one of my favorite FR novels to date.
I went from Spellfire to the Avatar Trilogy, to The Pools Trilogy, Realms of Valor, Realms of Infamy, to the Dark Elf and then Icewind Dale, and then on to the Cleric Quintet. After which my older brother gave me his 30-40 novel collection and then my interest really took off.
I think books like The Avatar Trilogy, Evermeet, and Cormyr are essential to read early on but it may be best to start off with some of the more popular books to get a real interest in the realms. Most people I think would enjoy Icewind Dale Trilogy, Songs and Swords series. It is important to get aquainted with some of the important characters early on such as Mystra's Chosen
I disagree with an earlier post stating that you should start with The Hunters Blade Trilogy. Not only are you skipping a lot of the story line and jump into the tail end of alot of big events that are constantly being brought up (relationship issues, past fights and events) but also these three books are not as good as the first 8 or 9. |
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Keravin
Seeker
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 20:39:33
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I love everything Elaine Cunningham's written.
Really disliked the original avatar trilogy, but the sequels have been much better. I would not recommend the sequels to someone that's not familiar with the sourcebooks though.
Drizzt - I think I'm about 5 books behind. |
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scererar
Master of Realmslore
USA
1618 Posts |
Posted - 12 Oct 2005 : 04:55:17
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| My first FR novel was Spellfire, then I went into the Avatar trilogy. I understand now days the sembia series is supposed to be the starting point for reasders new to the realms. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 06:10:23
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It can be, but it doesn't have to be. :)
I recommended Spellfire because in spite of its flaws, I found it hard to put down--and it has that special "Realms feeling", to boot. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Beezy
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 16 Oct 2005 : 06:35:05
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| Spellfire really captured my attention as well, like you said I didn't want to put it down. When I read it the second time it had the same effect and it was hard to stop reading. |
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Dhomal
Senior Scribe
USA
565 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2005 : 01:29:46
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Hello-
Heh - seems like this thread keep coming back every once in a while!
I have twide now recomended and leant my copy of Azure Bonds to two girlfriends of mine to read. I chose this one because I felt that it did indeed have a good amount of 'realms-flavor' - but also because it had a strong female main character. I felt that was important - so that neither of them got the impression that it (gaming or the novels) was dominated by males.
However - I must say - in neither case did the ploy really work. Neither one has been terribly interested in continuing the series, nor become interested in gaming. I suppose there is still a chance for the second one - as I am planning on starting a game 'soon-ish' - and I told her that she was welcome to play if she felt so inclined. Her responce was not an emphatic yes, but she did not seem to pooh-pooh the idea either....
As for opinions on other series - I was looking for myself too - as I have read quite a lot - but have become more and more behind. That - and I will not start a series now until they are all out (unless they are unrelated - like the class-novels) - it changes the way I read things.
I agree with the Icewind Dale books - and somewhat disagree with the Avatar series. It was confusing for me - or maybe I just could not get into it.
Another missed series that I liked was the original Moonshae Trilogy. That was my first FR read - the first book preceeding the original FR boxed set by a couple of months IIRC - and I liked it a lot! I have as yet, however - to read the second trilogy.
I may go make a couple of lists - what I've read and what I liked / disliked - and submit the information with the objective of looking for suggestions on what to read next.
Dhomal |
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Beezy
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2005 : 05:58:37
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| I didn't really enjoy the Moonshae trilogy or the second one either. It just didn't seem very realms-ish. It seemed as if it was set somewhere else. It didn't have the same sort of magic used in other realms books and just didn't seem to fit the Realms of today but then again wasn't the moonshae trilogy the first FR books written? I suppose that would be why. I didn't hate them but I would not put them anywhere near the top of the list of best FR books |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 31 Oct 2005 : 07:40:24
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Originally posted by Beezy
I didn't really enjoy the Moonshae trilogy or the second one either. It just didn't seem very realms-ish. It seemed as if it was set somewhere else. It didn't have the same sort of magic used in other realms books and just didn't seem to fit the Realms of today but then again wasn't the moonshae trilogy the first FR books written? I suppose that would be why. I didn't hate them but I would not put them anywhere near the top of the list of best FR books
The first one was the first FR novel but it was originally supposed to be set in Dlance. :) Ed's Moonshae's are different then Dougs. :) |
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hooper101
Learned Scribe
USA
117 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2005 : 17:15:36
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Okay I would start with the Harper series and here are the five reasons.
1. You are introduced to a wide variety of landscapes
This series covers alot of the realms
2. You are introduced to a wide variety of classes
There are rangers, druids, witches, bards, wizards etc.
3. You are introduced to a wide variety of different groups of power
Zhents, harpers,Red wizards,Lords of waterdeep, Night masks?I think El, many different adventuring groups
4. You get to read from a wide variety of authors
From here you can find an author out of the many big realms authors and find another series written by them, it was here I discovered Elaine
5. You are introduced to a wide variety of the realms races
You get lots o' Elves, dwarfs, halflings, Dragonbait(I cant remember his race's name), gnolls, giants,constructs, gods
In short it probably is the most comprehensive series out there covering a world, it's gods, people, and politics, which we all have come to love
The novels are mostly good, a few rough spots here and there but as a general whole good reads |
Die, die, die ,die, die, why won't you just die you silly dragon! |
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Belthor
Seeker
USA
52 Posts |
Posted - 01 Nov 2005 : 20:18:48
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| Ok, I realize that I'm gonna catch alot of flack for this,but if I had read Spellfire as my first FR book, I would not have read another one. I started with the Dark Elf Trilogy and read on through all the Drizzt books. That may not be the best way to go, but if you want to hook someone on FR, it's not a bad way to start. The Harper series was also excellent. As an intro to new characters, places and peoples, the harper books covered alot of ground with relatively little pain or confusion. |
If the rest of humanity were only as smart as my familiar...... |
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Beezy
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2005 : 07:14:32
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Originally posted by hooper101
Okay I would start with the Harper series and here are the five reasons.
1. You are introduced to a wide variety of landscapes
This series covers alot of the realms
2. You are introduced to a wide variety of classes
There are rangers, druids, witches, bards, wizards etc.
3. You are introduced to a wide variety of different groups of power
Zhents, harpers,Red wizards,Lords of waterdeep, Night masks?I think El, many different adventuring groups
4. You get to read from a wide variety of authors
From here you can find an author out of the many big realms authors and find another series written by them, it was here I discovered Elaine
5. You are introduced to a wide variety of the realms races
You get lots o' Elves, dwarfs, halflings, Dragonbait(I cant remember his race's name), gnolls, giants,constructs, gods
In short it probably is the most comprehensive series out there covering a world, it's gods, people, and politics, which we all have come to love
The novels are mostly good, a few rough spots here and there but as a general whole good reads
Dragonbait was a surial, forgive me if my spelling is off. The harper's series overall was pretty good. It would not be a bad place to start at all, since as you said it covers a wide range of the realms. |
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hooper101
Learned Scribe
USA
117 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 22:29:02
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| If I was going to try to hook someone in one book it would have to be either Homeland or Elfshadow. Which one would be dependant on the person. If the person wanted fights and action RAS. If the person wanted character development Elaine |
Die, die, die ,die, die, why won't you just die you silly dragon! |
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hooper101
Learned Scribe
USA
117 Posts |
Posted - 04 Nov 2005 : 22:31:19
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| The anthologies are a great idea as well! |
Die, die, die ,die, die, why won't you just die you silly dragon! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31701 Posts |
Posted - 05 Nov 2005 : 00:33:51
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Originally posted by hooper101
If I was going to try to hook someone in one book it would have to be either Homeland or Elfshadow. Which one would be dependant on the person. If the person wanted fights and action RAS. If the person wanted character development Elaine
I don't think I'd ever recommend a RAS book for a beginning FR reader. It's not because of RAS's style or the focus on Drizzt, but rather the limited scope of the Realms taken in his novels.
I'd rather offer a beginning FR reader a novel that presents a broad view of the Realms and it's inherent components. My earlier suggestion for Ed's Spellfire is a clear example of this.
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 06 Nov 2005 : 03:02:43
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by hooper101
If I was going to try to hook someone in one book it would have to be either Homeland or Elfshadow. Which one would be dependant on the person. If the person wanted fights and action RAS. If the person wanted character development Elaine
I don't think I'd ever recommend a RAS book for a beginning FR reader. It's not because of RAS's style or the focus on Drizzt, but rather the limited scope of the Realms taken in his novels.
Agreed...although to be fair, the first book I ever read was The Crystal Shard, and look how I turned out. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Ironstar
Acolyte
Germany
19 Posts |
Posted - 25 Nov 2005 : 09:14:21
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Hello all!
What would be your suggestion for the order to read FR novels if one wants to get a best possible knowledge about the history and the events in the Realms?
In other words, at the moment I don't search necessarily a good gripping story but a good understanding of the history of the world.
I recently ordered the Avatar trilogy and the Icewind Dale trilogy and am now waiting for them to arrive. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 25 Nov 2005 : 22:19:51
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Originally posted by Ironstar
Hello all!
What would be your suggestion for the order to read FR novels if one wants to get a best possible knowledge about the history and the events in the Realms?
In other words, at the moment I don't search necessarily a good gripping story but a good understanding of the history of the world.
Honestly, I wouldn't worry about that too much. In my experience, you learn about the Realms by spending time with it, reading novels and sourcebooks, talking with other Realms fans (online or otherwise), and doing research. You learn little bits at a time, and even the most devoted Realms fan isn't going to know *everything*.
Still, for first time readers I have to recommend Spellfire. It is written by the creator of the FR, it introduces many popular characters, and I thought it was a fun story. It's not perfect, but it doesn't really have to be, and I found it addicting. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 : 23:34:59
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by hooper101
If I was going to try to hook someone in one book it would have to be either Homeland or Elfshadow. Which one would be dependant on the person. If the person wanted fights and action RAS. If the person wanted character development Elaine
I don't think I'd ever recommend a RAS book for a beginning FR reader. It's not because of RAS's style or the focus on Drizzt, but rather the limited scope of the Realms taken in his novels.
Agreed...although to be fair, the first book I ever read was The Crystal Shard, and look how I turned out.
Cute and elvish?
Edit: Eeep! Did I actually say that? Um...sorry about that, I had been "channeling" the half-elf bard I play in Kuje's PbEM-game for a bit before posting... |
There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
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darkcrow
Learned Scribe
USA
269 Posts |
Posted - 25 Nov 2005 : 23:38:17
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| The very first book I read was The Making of a Mage and I'm glad I did since Elminster has made an apperance in alot of what I've read. I think this should be a new comers first book cause it's good to now how the man come to be what he is today. I agree with alot of people with The Finder's Stone Trilogy. After that read the rest of Kate and Jeff's books. I'm half way through with thier last book, Tymora's Luck and I got to say I've been wanting more after ever one of thier books. It's to bad that after Tymora's Luck, I won't have anything left form them to read. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2005 : 02:11:32
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Originally posted by Kajehase
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Agreed...although to be fair, the first book I ever read was The Crystal Shard, and look how I turned out.
Cute and elvish?
Edit: Eeep! Did I actually say that? Um...sorry about that, I had been "channeling" the half-elf bard I play in Kuje's PbEM-game for a bit before posting...
 Hee hee hee. Thanks!
Anyway, Elminster: The Making of a Mage is a good book, but I'm hesistant to recommend to first time Realms readers because it takes place in the distant past. But still, that doesn't mean that one will be "ruined" by reading that book first or anything. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Ironstar
Acolyte
Germany
19 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2005 : 11:56:49
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Thanks!
I'll consider buying the Spellfire in addition to the ones which i just got |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 26 Nov 2005 : 22:26:59
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Originally posted by Ironstar
Thanks!
I'll consider buying the Spellfire in addition to the ones which i just got
And I really hope you enjoy it! Tell us what you think when you've read it. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Beezy
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 28 Nov 2005 : 05:04:01
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| Spellfire was my first FR read, my older brother loaned it to me when I was in middle school and I fell in love with it and started borrowing all of his FR novels until he moved out and gave me his whole collection due to limited space at his new residence. Spellfire is one of my all time favorite FR novels. |
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Posted - 21 Dec 2005 : 11:16:40
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Hiya peeps.
First of all I wanna thank you all for your effort, time, tips and suggestions.
Im new to the FR novels, but I aint new to D&D. I have read 3 bookshelves of Dragonlance / Krynn novels the past 2 years. And I love these novels a lot. I still cant get enough of them.
I did read all previous posts. And I narrowed down the list of reading starting points to 3 books / series:
* Dark Elf Trilogy
* Icewind Dale Trilogy
* Spellfire (I couldnt ignore all post about this book; my first list didnt include this one)
What Im looking for, is a starting point just like the War Of The Lance Trilogy is for the Dragonlance / Krynn world. Which of the above novels would be suited best for this?
Thanks again for ya time,
Amsterdamned
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Kajehase
Great Reader
Sweden
2104 Posts |
Posted - 21 Dec 2005 : 14:32:52
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Azure Bonds  |
There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
Terry Pratchett |
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Winterfox
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 21 Dec 2005 : 14:58:45
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Originally posted by Kajehase
Azure Bonds
Seconded. If only it weren't out of print... (I've a copy of it, but haven't been able to find the rest of the trilogy, bleh.) |
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Experienced help for recommending FR Novels.
