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ode904
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Posted - 24 Aug 2006 :  19:09:39  Show Profile  Click to see ode904's MSN Messenger address Send ode904 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, it may be the best.. Siege of Darkness is a nice book, I have to mention
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MerrikCale
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I loved the old Harper series. I wished they'd bring those back. I know you can find many at a used book store. The first 2 or 3 Elaine Cunningham Danilo Thann novels were part of this 16 book series. I also liked the "shadow" books in this run.



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Ilztfryn Claddghym
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Last year was the first time I was introduced to the forgotten Realms and I read the Hunters Blades Trilogy! This got me hooked and I think is a perfect intoduction into the Forgotten Realms!

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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 14 Sep 2006 :  20:59:14  Show Profile  Visit Kalin Agrivar's Homepage  Click to see Kalin Agrivar's MSN Messenger address Send Kalin Agrivar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Tom Bombadillo

Last year was the first time I was introduced to the forgotten Realms and I read the Hunters Blades Trilogy! This got me hooked and I think is a perfect intoduction into the Forgotten Realms!



you should go into the Candlekeep main web site and find the downloadable Realms Bibliography...it will be a big help to you as the older players and/or scribes discuss Realms Materials..


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lelorien
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Posted - 16 Sep 2006 :  21:30:24  Show Profile  Visit lelorien's Homepage  Click to see lelorien's MSN Messenger address Send lelorien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hey
in the avatar series there is also the book prince of lies and the crucible:trial of cyric. Do i include them?
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scererar
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quote:
Originally posted by lelorien

hey
in the avatar series there is also the book prince of lies and the crucible:trial of cyric. Do i include them?



I tend to lump them into the same storyline overall. additionally, the shadow of the avatar trilogy shows some of the behind the scenes tales and goings on with Elminster and the rangers three.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by lelorien

hey
in the avatar series there is also the book prince of lies and the crucible:trial of cyric. Do i include them?

Yes.

The reprinted "Avatar Series" now includes the original ToT trilogy -- Shadowdale, Tantras, and Waterdeep, with Prince of Lies and Crucible: The Trial of Cyric the Mad added to the original trilogy to make the series.

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lelorien
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Posted - 19 Sep 2006 :  18:32:27  Show Profile  Visit lelorien's Homepage  Click to see lelorien's MSN Messenger address Send lelorien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
in the recommended FR reading list it tells me to read the avatar series but after the shadow of the avatar it tells me to read the prince of lies so should i read it when i read the avatar series or after the shadow of the avatar? and if it is the later were do i include the crucible?
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The Sage
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I'd recommend you read the novels following the format they've now been re-printed in.

That means the original ToT books -- Shadowdale, Tantras, and Waterdeep -- followed by Prince of Lies and Crucible. From there, you start on Shadows of the Avatar.

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lelorien
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Posted - 29 Sep 2006 :  21:00:04  Show Profile  Visit lelorien's Homepage  Click to see lelorien's MSN Messenger address Send lelorien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
On this same website i found out that there were newer versions of the avatar series. But when i went to a bookstore they told me the book was out of print. Is there a reason why i can't get the newer books?
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The Sage
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It's likely that even the reprints have sold out in some locations -- I knew they have here in Perth.

I'd try a few online bookstores, you're likely to have better luck.

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dannyfu
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i was asking about bladesinger character builds a while back on the RPG thread and someone mentioned to me RAS writing one and i know that it's from the realms of magic short story. but they also mentioned that there was a bladesinger in year of rogue dragons (or realms of the dragons, i can't remember which).........anyway, my question is: can anyone tell me which book(s)it actually is and if the character is in the story enough to satisfy my bladesinging needs.i think after this i have exausted the realms novels of all the books with my favorite prestige class. thanks in advance for the help.
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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 02 Oct 2006 :  16:04:32  Show Profile  Visit Kalin Agrivar's Homepage  Click to see Kalin Agrivar's MSN Messenger address Send Kalin Agrivar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dannyfu

i was asking about bladesinger character builds a while back on the RPG thread and someone mentioned to me RAS writing one and i know that it's from the realms of magic short story. but they also mentioned that there was a bladesinger in year of rogue dragons (or realms of the dragons, i can't remember which).........anyway, my question is: can anyone tell me which book(s)it actually is and if the character is in the story enough to satisfy my bladesinging needs.i think after this i have exausted the realms novels of all the books with my favorite prestige class. thanks in advance for the help.



this isn't really a "novel" post but the bladesinger first appeared as a kit in 2E in the Complete Book of Elves...than mentioned in the 2E Elves of Evermeet...it was later reprinted in 3E in the Races of Faerun (I think )

and as for the "novel" bladesingers...they aren't really like much of the original flavour of the bladesinger...the bladesinger was one of the most ancient elven arts and to be a bladesinger made you "the best of the best" and a champion of the elven race...

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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 02 Oct 2006 :  16:26:01  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage  Click to see Chosen of Moradin's MSN Messenger address Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, there is the Bladesinger novel, in the Fighter series, and there is one bladesinger in the Rogue Dragons trilogy first book - I donīt read the two others, yet.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Oct 2006 :  17:12:28  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dannyfu

i was asking about bladesinger character builds a while back on the RPG thread and someone mentioned to me RAS writing one and i know that it's from the realms of magic short story. but they also mentioned that there was a bladesinger in year of rogue dragons (or realms of the dragons, i can't remember which).........anyway, my question is: can anyone tell me which book(s)it actually is and if the character is in the story enough to satisfy my bladesinging needs.i think after this i have exausted the realms novels of all the books with my favorite prestige class. thanks in advance for the help.



Taegan Swiftwind appeared in all three books of the Year of Rogue Dragons trilogy. He's an avariel bladesinger. I've no idea whether or not that meets your bladesinging needs...

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dannyfu
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Posted - 02 Oct 2006 :  22:30:37  Show Profile  Visit dannyfu's Homepage Send dannyfu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thank you guys for the 411, i have read the bladesinger novel and i actually have a copy of the 2e source book enroute. i am starting to expand my source material beyond 3.5, realizing the old books are full of great ideas for roleplaying. thanks much to you Wooly that was what i was looking for. an avariel, wow that's unique. i think i'll give'em a read.
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lelorien
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Posted - 17 Oct 2006 :  21:15:11  Show Profile  Visit lelorien's Homepage  Click to see lelorien's MSN Messenger address Send lelorien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is there a book that talks about how elminster creats the harpers?
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The Sage
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There is no one specific novel that deals with that. There are tidbits in various El novels by Ed.

I would suggest you track down a copy of Code of the Harpers, a sourcebook, which details the origins and creation of the Harpers.

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lelorien
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Posted - 22 Oct 2006 :  21:48:25  Show Profile  Visit lelorien's Homepage  Click to see lelorien's MSN Messenger address Send lelorien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
is there any book that talks about netheril?
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Jorkens
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Well, the first ones I can think of are the Arcane age, or Netheril trilogy. Its out of print, but I thinl that's the books that will have the most information on Netheril.
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scererar
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also the nether scrolls and (scererar ducks) the return of the arch wizards trilogy hints at some lore from that time period.

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Victor_ograygor
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Arcane age is a must if you want to know somthing about netheril

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quote:
Originally posted by Victor_ograygor

Arcane Age: Netheril--Empire of Magic
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/dnd/downloads

As well, Lost Empires of Faerun.

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lelorien
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Posted - 26 Oct 2006 :  01:12:39  Show Profile  Visit lelorien's Homepage  Click to see lelorien's MSN Messenger address Send lelorien a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello again. I was looking for the avatar series on this very site and I fell on books called avatar adventure trilogy. What exactly are these books?
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Kuje
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quote:
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Hello again. I was looking for the avatar series on this very site and I fell on books called avatar adventure trilogy. What exactly are these books?



Probably the trilogy of modules that tie in with the trilogy of novels. :) Both the novels and the modules have the same names. I.e Shadowdale novel and Shadowdale module, repeat the titles for the other two modules/novels.

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