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Auzoros
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quote:
Originally posted by MerrikCale

can I vote for the authors of the 4E Campaign book? Those are indeed the greatest villians of the Realms in my book



Indeed.
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The Sage
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Folks, let's try to keep this focused on actual villains who populate the Realms campaign setting.

Thank you.

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gwalchavad
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The sojourner FTW completely selfish, but completely mundane
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Jakk
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quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Folks, let's try to keep this focused on actual villains who populate the Realms campaign setting.

Thank you.



Uh... Sage? They *are* the actual villains who depopulated and (sort of) repopulated (what was left of) the Realms campaign setting. What more do you want?

That's why I voted "other" in the poll.

Seriously, in-world... definitely Halaster. He ran Undermountain like a demented collaboration of Poe and Lovecraft, then when he learned about the Spellplague, he blew his soul to atoms rather than stop it. That's what I call evil.

(And yes, I know it wasn't his choice to blow his soul to atoms, but it was somebody's choice, wasn't it?)

Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.

If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Jakk

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Folks, let's try to keep this focused on actual villains who populate the Realms campaign setting.

Thank you.



Uh... Sage? They *are* the actual villains who depopulated and (sort of) repopulated (what was left of) the Realms campaign setting. What more do you want?

That's why I voted "other" in the poll.
Nice try, Jakk. But Smyther's opening post for this scroll makes it pretty clear he asking about villains within the context of the FORGOTTEN REALMS setting.

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Teneck
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This is a wee bit creepy...I found this on page one of the post...way back in '05. Seems he is a prophet.


quote:
Originally posted by Sir Vengeance



1) Cyric-this lunatic deity is a great threat to the Realms and the Pantheon. He reminds me of the Norse god, Loki, and who knows one day he might ally with the Elder Eternal Evils and lead a revolt against the Pantheon. It was a serious lack of perception on Ao's part to allow an man as insane as Karsus to assume a deity position.




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skychrome
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quote:
Originally posted by Jakk
Seriously, in-world... definitely Halaster. He ran Undermountain like a demented collaboration of Poe and Lovecraft, then when he learned about the Spellplague, he blew his soul to atoms rather than stop it. That's what I call evil.

(And yes, I know it wasn't his choice to blow his soul to atoms, but it was somebody's choice, wasn't it?)


Where can I read what has happened to Halaster during the spellplague and in 4e? Any info out there?

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by skychrome

quote:
Originally posted by Jakk
Seriously, in-world... definitely Halaster. He ran Undermountain like a demented collaboration of Poe and Lovecraft, then when he learned about the Spellplague, he blew his soul to atoms rather than stop it. That's what I call evil.

(And yes, I know it wasn't his choice to blow his soul to atoms, but it was somebody's choice, wasn't it?)


Where can I read what has happened to Halaster during the spellplague and in 4e? Any info out there?

-



He was no longer around by the time of the Sellplague. In the core module Expedition to Undermountain (yeah, it wasn't even an FR product), Hally detected some coming magical threat and tried to stop it, but got blown to tiny pieces instead. What the threat was or what he was doing remain unspecified. It all happened offstage.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by skychrome

quote:
Originally posted by Jakk
Seriously, in-world... definitely Halaster. He ran Undermountain like a demented collaboration of Poe and Lovecraft, then when he learned about the Spellplague, he blew his soul to atoms rather than stop it. That's what I call evil.

(And yes, I know it wasn't his choice to blow his soul to atoms, but it was somebody's choice, wasn't it?)


Where can I read what has happened to Halaster during the spellplague and in 4e? Any info out there?

-



He was no longer around by the time of the Sellplague. In the core module Expedition to Undermountain (yeah, it wasn't even an FR product), Hally detected some coming magical threat and tried to stop it, but got blown to tiny pieces instead. What the threat was or what he was doing remain unspecified. It all happened offstage.

And Halaster's demise was later referenced in Grand History of the Realms. Grounding the events of EtU in FR canon.

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skychrome
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Achhhh! What a shame! I really liked this guy and Undermountain without Halaster is just like beer without alcohol...

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Brynweir
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quote:
Originally posted by Teneck

This is a wee bit creepy...I found this on page one of the post...way back in '05. Seems he is a prophet.


quote:
Originally posted by Sir Vengeance



1) Cyric-this lunatic deity is a great threat to the Realms and the Pantheon. He reminds me of the Norse god, Loki, and who knows one day he might ally with the Elder Eternal Evils and lead a revolt against the Pantheon. It was a serious lack of perception on Ao's part to allow an man as insane as Karsus to assume a deity position.







Maybe it wasn't so much that he's a prophet as some guy over at WOTC saw the post

Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D

He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness.

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Teneck
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quote:
Originally posted by Brynweir

quote:
Originally posted by Teneck

This is a wee bit creepy...I found this on page one of the post...way back in '05. Seems he is a prophet.


quote:
Originally posted by Sir Vengeance



1) Cyric-this lunatic deity is a great threat to the Realms and the Pantheon. He reminds me of the Norse god, Loki, and who knows one day he might ally with the Elder Eternal Evils and lead a revolt against the Pantheon. It was a serious lack of perception on Ao's part to allow an man as insane as Karsus to assume a deity position.







Maybe it wasn't so much that he's a prophet as some guy over at WOTC saw the post



LOL...I can see it now
"OH wow...what a great idea...Cyric kills EVERYONE...whew!!! was wondering how we were gonna do 4th ed...problem solved"

"Go ahead...Sleep in the church...the vampires can't get ya in the church" Any DM...any time.

"He's like a trained ape...without the training"
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LordManshoon
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Gee, I wonder who got my vote...

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Drizztsmanchild
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I have a question about Halaster. If the spellplague caused normal mages to go insane what about insane ones?
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Drizztsmanchild

I have a question about Halaster. If the spellplague caused normal mages to go insane what about insane ones?



Doesn't matter. He was already dead when it happened.

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Brimstone
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quote:
Originally posted by LordManshoon

Gee, I wonder who got my vote...


You again.




"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Brimstone
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Drizztsmanchild

I have a question about Halaster. If the spellplague caused normal mages to go insane what about insane ones?



Doesn't matter. He was already dead when it happened.


Maybe he is, maybe he wont be?

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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creyzi4zb12
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Cyric!! The Cyrinishad....was the coolest thing to ever happen in the Realms

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Brimstone
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I agree.

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Bladewind
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I vote Manshoon, one of the few villains who doesn't fall for the villainous tropes others fall to (like explaining the grandmaster plan to the good guys). He is the man with the plan that nobody can unravel proper (even able to confound his own clone selves!).

Honorable mentions:
Zasian Mensz, he shows the power of deception and lies can propel one to great heights.

Sojourner, a villain I could relate to till the very end

Irenicus, loved to hate this one and aptly brought to life by the voiceacting of David Warner

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swifty
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quote:
Originally posted by Bladewind

I vote Manshoon, one of the few villains who doesn't fall for the villainous tropes others fall to (like explaining the grandmaster plan to the good guys). He is the man with the plan that nobody can unravel proper (even able to confound his own clone selves!).

Honorable mentions:
Zasian Mensz, he shows the power of deception and lies can propel one to great heights.

Sojourner, a villain I could relate to till the very end

Irenicus, loved to hate this one and aptly brought to life by the voiceacting of David Warner

was zasian mensz from a novel.

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Brimstone
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Zasian Mensz was in the Thomas Reid trilogy:Empyrean Odyssey.

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Cleric Generic
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Cyric and Bane. The former is the deific embodyment of treachery and murder, etc. The latter the deific embodyment of tyrrany and oppression. The most evil, in my opinion, if for no other reason than their single minded persuit of their brand of evil as gods and their unrivalled power to do and inspire it in that capacity.

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Sandro
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quote:
How about Ghost from Night Masks?

Aye, I must say that he'd take my vote as well. Especially the way he treated the firbolg (forget his name). Just so... evil.

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i'm partial to netheril, so my vote goes to Telemont. he's unreadable face, calm attitude, (arguably) unparalleled cunning, and great power make him stand out.

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