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George Krashos
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I do.

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The Sage
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And here we all thought THO was the worst tease at Candlekeep!

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Chataro
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With so many war going on, its a miracle faerun can still survive, especially since the Tot just passed with so many dead. Is there a war of evermeet?
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Shadovar
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quote:
Originally posted by Chataro

With so many war going on, its a miracle faerun can still survive, especially since the Tot just passed with so many dead. Is there a war of evermeet?



Check the local bookstores for the novel Evermeet: Island of Elves by Elaine Cunningham, the book details the war of Evermeet, two-three years before the war of Evereska.

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scererar
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quote:
Originally posted by Chataro

With so many war going on, its a miracle faerun can still survive, especially since the Tot just passed with so many dead. Is there a war of evermeet?



Depending on your own FR campaign timeline, the ToT was in 1358, It is now 1370's. There has been a lot going on though, keeps things interesting. there has been several wars happening or has happened since the ToT, but globally it probably is not all that large. It would be interesting just to see how many major conflicts have occurred since the ToT with an approx. body count. I think the elves have taken the brunt of things though, at least with the "goodly" races.

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Paj
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Posted - 02 May 2006 :  15:47:49  Show Profile  Visit Paj's Homepage  Click to see Paj's MSN Messenger address Send Paj a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Check the local bookstores for the novel Evermeet: Island of Elves by Elaine Cunningham, the book details the war of Evermeet, two-three years before the war of Evereska.


Like Shadovar said, see the Novel for more details but basically:

A large force of Thayan Red Wizards, Human mercenaries and pirates along with Gold Elves from another planet attack Evermeet at several places at once. The Elves and the Fey creatures on Evermeet rally to fight off the intruders

Theres also the Stinger War occuring between Amn, allied with the Sothillisian/Sythillisian Empire versus a colony of Stingers from Maztica.

And, there was all the minor wars/conflicts that the Bhaalspawn caused. Saradush was besieged by an army of Fire Giants led by one of the 'Five'.

Also, theres still (afaik) fighting going on in Dambrath between Gareths army and the Horde that attacked during the Year of Rogue Dragons. The Rite states that there was many months of campaigning left before the Pass was retaken and Dambrath secure.

Edited by - Paj on 02 May 2006 15:53:18
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Octa
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Hey, has anyone compiled the exact dates for these battles? Specifically the ones I don't have are in the Death of the Dragons series (books in box in mom's basement). I'll try and post some of the ones where I do have the books.
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Kalin Agrivar
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quote:
Originally posted by Octa

Hey, has anyone compiled the exact dates for these battles? Specifically the ones I don't have are in the Death of the Dragons series (books in box in mom's basement). I'll try and post some of the ones where I do have the books.



look for the Realms timeline A Grand History of the Realms in Candlekeep for most of the dates you are looking for

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar

quote:
Originally posted by Octa

Hey, has anyone compiled the exact dates for these battles? Specifically the ones I don't have are in the Death of the Dragons series (books in box in mom's basement). I'll try and post some of the ones where I do have the books.



look for the Realms timeline A Grand History of the Realms in Candlekeep for most of the dates you are looking for



A Grand History of the Realms.

Ed gave a specific date for Azoun IV's death, in his thread.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by kalin agrivar

quote:
Originally posted by Octa

Hey, has anyone compiled the exact dates for these battles? Specifically the ones I don't have are in the Death of the Dragons series (books in box in mom's basement). I'll try and post some of the ones where I do have the books.



look for the Realms timeline A Grand History of the Realms in Candlekeep for most of the dates you are looking for



A Grand History of the Realms.

Ed gave a specific date for Azoun IV's death, in his thread.


In his '05 replies -- Death:- Mirtul 11th 1371 DR with the funeral on Kythorn 11th, a month later.

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Ateth Istarlin
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What about the invasion of Unther by Mulhorand?
I know it started in 1372, but is there any more information?

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The FRCS, Unapproachable East, and Dragons of Faerun cover the invasion of Unther.

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Kajehase
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Posted - 27 Sep 2006 :  15:58:43  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As well as Power of Faerűn.

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Ateth Istarlin
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Thanks
I've now got all but UE. I was kind of hoping for some more indepth details 'tho.
Also, why have Selune's aasimars attacked Mulhorand forces without at least seeking a truce to find the reasons behind the invasion? As things stand they are just helping the various evil groups to consolidate their positions & take control of Unther!

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Lemernis
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I'm working with a NWN2 persistent world project that will be set in Amn beginning in the early winter of 1370, and we think it will be a very exciting place to adventure.

An earlier poster corrected some of the early misinformation in the thread about the war in Amn. Central Amn has been conquered by an army of monster races (ogre mages, ogres, Underdark hobogblin tribes, goblins, kobolds, amd hill giants) under the leadership of the ogre mage Sythillis and his mate Cyrvisnea. The Cyricist temple the Twin Towers of the Eternal Eclipse has joined forces with Sythillisian Empire, and together they occupy Esmeltaran. The Sythillisian Empire extends from the Lake Esmel region, through the Small Teeth mountains all the way to Murann. Land of Intrigue feature a map of the political divisions created by the war. Amnian forces stationed at Lake Esmel's Scrimitar battle the Sythillisian Empire at a siege line drawn at the Splendarrllur River. The Cyricist temple in the Cloud Peaks, the Mountain of Skulls, a rival temple of the Twin Towers of the Eternal Eclipse in the Small Teeth, has allied with Amnian forces. The Nelanther Pirates are allied with Sythillians in Murann.

It is all left in a very exciting and precarious place, and that is where we'll begin our own tale.

Power of Faerun (p. 43) has some updated material, but I have no idea if it is considered official at this point. It is rather disappointing for our purposes, so we will not be using it. There seems to be some mistakes in that material, eg, it confuses Dark Embrace, a temple of Shar, with the Cyricist Mountain of Skulls temple far to the north. Sythillis is mispelled as Sothillis. Anyway, we think we have a much more satisfying tale in the works.

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by Lemernis

Sythillis is mispelled as Sothillis. Anyway, we think we have a much more satisfying tale in the works.



This isn't a mistake. WOTC decided to change the name because the original sounded to much like a sexual disease. :) No, I'm not kidding.

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Ergdusch
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quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by Lemernis

Sythillis is mispelled as Sothillis. Anyway, we think we have a much more satisfying tale in the works.



This isn't a mistake. WOTC decided to change the name because the original sounded to much like a sexual disease. :) No, I'm not kidding.



Gods above - what RPG designers have to worry about.... tstststs!


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Edited by - Ergdusch on 29 Sep 2006 09:39:46
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Kalin Agrivar
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Posted - 29 Sep 2006 :  13:48:36  Show Profile  Visit Kalin Agrivar's Homepage  Click to see Kalin Agrivar's MSN Messenger address Send Kalin Agrivar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
and "Sothillis" is any worse than ??

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KnightErrantJR
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Thank goodness they decided against including the sage Herpetes in Chessenta . . . ::ducks flying books thrown at him::

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ericlboyd
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Posted - 29 Sep 2006 :  14:06:42  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lemernis

Power of Faerun (p. 43) has some updated material, but I have no idea if it is considered official at this point.


Why wouldn't it be? It is official.

quote:
It is rather disappointing for our purposes, so we will not be using it.


Whatever works for your campaign.

One of my motivations here was to come up with a reason to justify a 4 year stalemate. By my reading, the situation in LoI was NOT stable, and yet the FRCS had not updated it as of 1372 DR and I was writing a book for 1374 DR. Therefore, in the official stuff at least, we needed an explanation as to why the situation was roughly the same 4 years later.

quote:
There seems to be some mistakes in that material, eg, it confuses Dark Embrace, a temple of Shar, with the Cyricist Mountain of Skulls temple far to the north.


Good catch. I meant the Mountain of Skulls. Not sure how I got those two swapped in my head. (And I'm really not sure how I snuck that mistake past George. ;-) )

quote:
Sythillis is mispelled as Sothillis.


This was a deliberate choice on the part of WoTC. I have speculated as to why I think they did it, but never had any official confirmation.

quote:
Anyway, we think we have a much more satisfying tale in the works.


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George Krashos
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Probably because I was struggling to reconcile the Twin Towers stuff with Paul's novels. That fix consumed far too much of my feeble powers.

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Lemernis
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Eric, sorry if that came off like a slam at your creativity. (Kinda forgot the authors of source books hang around here, eep.) I hear you on the need to square things away for a 4 year lapse in canon for the region. That specific region must catch up to a greater surrounding world where so much else has already happened. So you are restricted in many ways, I realize.

And in our own way, a persistent world framework is limited in a large number of ways as well. Not the least of which, graphically. Owing to complexities of the NWN2 game engine, we may never be able to feature formians and stingers, for example. Certainly not any time soon (if ever at all).

But anyway, the stage is so beautifully set for an epic adventure at the end of Lands of Intrigue. As we've spent the last year brainstorming about what all could happen there we got very excited at all the story possibilites. It's in that spirit that I said what I said. (Which I think you clearly recognize but I just felt the need to say it anyway. :))
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Matthus
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Hi paec_djinn,

is there any chance to reopen your topic? Are you still around this halls?

Its seems to me that your spoilers may have been solved - I really do hope you got the chance to read all the books since then

There are some discussions about current wars - for example gold dwarfs v.s. duergar but I would like the idea to come back to this "sticky" place...

Hope to hear from you

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Matthus
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Has anybody heard from the paec_djinn recently. Unfortunately there seems to be no mail address for contacting him.

I don’t know if there is a chance to reopen this topic – would it be within the Code of Conduct to copy the part about the wars into a new topic if the author wouldn’t walk within the halls anymore? Is there a time limit for such projects? Anybody else interested in the topic, so that there may be a petition to the great Head Moderator?
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Paec-djinn was last active here at Candlekeep on the 15th of January '07.

You're free to open a new scroll if you wish. However, I think it would be best to keep all the references in this particular scroll, as it's easier to search and it is currently a "sticky" scroll. And there wasn't a specific time-limit for this project, so you're free to continue adding to it...

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