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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
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 Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 03:46:50
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| I play either the totally neutral or lawful neutral roles. But somehow I always seem to revert back to the good alignment. |
“Darkness beyond twilight, crimson beyond blood that flows! Buried in the flow of time. In thy great name. I pledge myself to darkness. All the fools who stand in our way shall be destroyed…by the power you and I possess! DRAGON SLAVE!!!”
"Thieves? Ah, such an ugly word... look upon them as the most honest sort of merchant."
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 03:55:38
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There's philosophical neutral, as described above; there's selfish or indifferent neutral; animal neutral. What LD describes is just insanity.
I wouldn't want to play a non-good character for very long. In the Realms, tending around chaotic good. |
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Faramicos
Senior Scribe
Denmark
468 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2005 : 13:55:06
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| I dont make characters for my players. For the players pleasure i never premake any characters. They make their characters and then i will adjust the adventure if they dont choose what i thought. It works better that way. The players get more freedom and it doesnt take me long to adjust the adventure. |
"When dragons make war, worlds can only tremble in the shadow of angry wings" |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36781 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2005 : 17:27:11
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Originally posted by Faramicos
I dont make characters for my players. For the players pleasure i never premake any characters. They make their characters and then i will adjust the adventure if they dont choose what i thought. It works better that way. The players get more freedom and it doesnt take me long to adjust the adventure.
Well, what alignment do you prefer to play, when you're on the colorful side of the DM's screen? |
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Chosen of Bane
Senior Scribe
USA
552 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jul 2005 : 18:28:13
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I generally like to play LG or NG. The only way I would ever play an evil character is if the whole group decided to do an evil game for some reason (which I happen to be DMing right now actually).
As for Lord Desolation's view of True Neutral....Sounds like chaotic evil to me. I don't care if you donate to charity, feed the needy, help an old woman cross the road, and save a kitten from a tree 9 out of 10 days, if you slaughter a village on that 10th day...You are VERY evil!
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LordXenophon
Learned Scribe
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 26 Jul 2005 : 21:35:40
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| If I depart from the good alignments, It's almost always to play Lawful Neutral. In my group, we sometimes also call it Logical Neutral, because we play them like Khelben, Spock or Tuvok. That applies only to PC's, of course. My villains are usually Lawful Evil. The one time I joined an evil group, I played a Lawful Neutral golem who obeyed its master without question, which helped me to avoid the morality issues (briefly). |
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Faramicos
Senior Scribe
Denmark
468 Posts |
Posted - 27 Jul 2005 : 14:02:34
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| When on the "colourful" side of the screen i prefer to play the ultimate evil. Playing evil to the extreme gives an extra edge to the play and it is challenging for me to describe the horrific things a character do during a campaign... Actually experience once that the torture me and my fellow belivers of cyric "showed" some young peasants gave me goosebumps and a hint of a bad taste in my mouth... It was extreme .I love it. |
"When dragons make war, worlds can only tremble in the shadow of angry wings" |
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Arlenion
Acolyte
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Posted - 27 Jul 2005 : 18:06:42
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I usually play a lawful good character because its just how I think. However, for some reason I can play a neutral evil character as well. In that case it is usually a mage who simply doesn't care if he hurts another if it helps him.
I dislike chaotic neutral, and to a lesser extent true neutral, because people treat them as I can do anything I want which isn't what they are. As Wooly Rupert has said true neutral seeks to balance others actions. Chaotic Neutral seeks to preserve their own freedom to choose what they want to do and hate to be told what to do. Depending on their personality they may disobey the parties leader just to show they can. |
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Lord Desolation
Acolyte
USA
27 Posts |
Posted - 10 Aug 2005 : 22:24:04
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| You took what I said the wrong way. Because thats the way I play all of my true neutral characters. They bleive that each side of an argument shouldn't have more power than the other. They will step in at any time if they see that one side is gaining the upper hand over the otherside. That is what I had said origanly but only whith fewer words and alot less time. I am greatly pleased that you all have taken the time out of your bussy adventeurs to reply. |
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Damian Naïlo
Acolyte
Colombia
13 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 03:34:35
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I'd have to agree with magnakanus there. My trademark character (which gives me my name in these forums) was Lawful Evil most of his life (He was originally LN, turned evil with some tanar'ri intervention, and only just recently returned to LN...after some divine intervention). He was a person who most of the time he only cared about his goals of acquiring more and more magic, but some times was a loving and truly friendly person. When someone got in his way he made careful, long-term plans that eventually led either to the other's demise or to his gaining more power. Regardless of his evil, dark, selfish and greedy nature he had some (few) true friends, and he was able to feel true love just as any other person. To the people who knew him, he is a powerful, reliable and outgoing wizard...that is not to be messed with. He was dark, very dark, but it gave some truly wonderful roleplaying moments. That's why I'm very fond of him. None of my other characters have made it as far.
I've played other characters, but LE and LN are by far my favorites. Fortunately, it seems I've perfectly capable of roleplaying any alignment. Playing chaotic evil is not something I'm very fond of, but it's damn fun. |
"Why won't you look at me!? It's always Alustriel this, Alustriel that......look at me, for Mystra's sake!"
-Ilya Silverstar, from my campaign |
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webmanus
Learned Scribe
Sweden
338 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 10:06:19
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| My preferred characters are NG, and, as DM, I prefer NG male Chondathan human Com1 or Com3. As PC, NG ... multiclass ... |
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
1287 Posts |
Posted - 11 Aug 2005 : 21:47:57
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There is a trap I have seen over and over again in playing evil, whether it is chaotic evil, neutral evil, or one of my favourites Lawful evil...
Any one of thes alignments can become the very common Stupid evil.
A stupid evil character is one that does not see the world as a realistic place. They must slaughter peasants, cause sadness, pain, and suffering EVERYWHERE they go. If they have a friend they cannot keep them for long, for they must be sure to stab them in the back.
I don't mind evil characters. But I have been in too many game stores where I see the players just roleplaying out some sadistic fantasy of theirs. This is not the way to play evil. Evil played realistically and smart, can lead to some of the most interesting roleplaying characters available.
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Fletcher
Learned Scribe
USA
299 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2005 : 16:09:41
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Originally posted by Mournblade
There is a trap I have seen over and over again in playing evil, whether it is chaotic evil, neutral evil, or one of my favourites Lawful evil...
Any one of thes alignments can become the very common Stupid evil.
A stupid evil character is one that does not see the world as a realistic place. They must slaughter peasants, cause sadness, pain, and suffering EVERYWHERE they go. If they have a friend they cannot keep them for long, for they must be sure to stab them in the back.
I don't mind evil characters. But I have been in too many game stores where I see the players just roleplaying out some sadistic fantasy of theirs. This is not the way to play evil. Evil played realistically and smart, can lead to some of the most interesting roleplaying characters available.
I agree. Stupid evil is a constant nagging at the back of your mind. Almost as nagging as those blasted kids who keep coming around to try to ruin everything.
I played a neutral Evil character, I didn't let the other players know I was evil. They found out around ninth level when only good aligned people could enter an area, and I was unable to enter. They were horrified to have supported an evil character.
Although, the revelation of my alignment explained a lot of my characters attitudes desires and behaviors. They had thought I was a little on the extreme side of good, but still an OK person. The players treated me a little differently after that, but they still were more than willing to keep the support of a powerful evoker, who had many times over proven extreme loyalty to companions.
My reasoning behind the loyalty to my companions was as follows : strong companions are hard to find, loyal ones harder. Best not lose these. It has been a very profitable group of adventurers with a fair share of luck, and more than its share of intelligent people. (the lowest int in the party was 14, lowest wis was 12). They have few bad habits, didn't pick random fights, and they knew lots of important people who like them and tend to owe them favors.
They have also been very supportive in getting me the magical items and spells I have desired to increase my power. Not to mention that rogue is mighty cute, and very willing.
Plus in case everything goes to the abyss in a handbasket, I know their weaknesses, I know where they live, I know where their families live, etc etc etc. |
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
1287 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2005 : 03:34:29
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Originally posted by Fletcher
My reasoning behind the loyalty to my companions was as follows : strong companions are hard to find, loyal ones harder. Best not lose these. It has been a very profitable group of adventurers with a fair share of luck, and more than its share of intelligent people. (the lowest int in the party was 14, lowest wis was 12). They have few bad habits, didn't pick random fights, and they knew lots of important people who like them and tend to owe them favors.
They have also been very supportive in getting me the magical items and spells I have desired to increase my power. Not to mention that rogue is mighty cute, and very willing.
Plus in case everything goes to the abyss in a handbasket, I know their weaknesses, I know where they live, I know where their families live, etc etc etc.
That is EXACTLY the right kind of evil to play. To pull of an evil character in a good party is one of my favourite rollplaying challenges.
In the live action roleplay I participate in, we have Paladins and Dark Paladins. Dark Paladins are VERY EVIL, and illegal by the lawas of the land. Both Paladins and Dark paladins are FAITH and so are immune to Necromancy. There is a High ranking Nevromancy spelled called Death Slave. When a character is hit with Death Slave, and they have no magical defense, they IMMEDIATELY turn into an undead under the control of the caster. This is NASTY, means no chance for Revival you are dead and must go ressurect. Well Paladins and Dark Paladins are NOT changed into Undead, instead they are just killed (chance to revive). (Kill spell brings a character to the point of 5 minutes until ressurection needed, with a chance to revive them to health.)
Well my friend Pete played a Dark Paladin named Vorn. Everyone thought Vorn was just a warrior. He used to adventure with people but hated paladins. Well one day in our line battle, a necromancer casts DEATH SLAVE at VORN. Vorn did NOT turn into undead and was just killed. Everyone started asking... Is Vorn a paladin? then their eyes got wide, no he is NO paladin. Only ONE other choice.
So he was outed, banished, and became a GREAT VILLAIN. (I destroyed him last september however(pats on back)).
He played evil so WELL, that nobody ever knew until an unfortunate incident no fault of his own caused him to be revealed. The plot guys then revealed all the stuff Pete did while playing Vorn. We were all amazed he could pull it off, and none of us Knights knew it.
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Lord Desolation
Acolyte
USA
27 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2005 : 22:17:41
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| You can always play a truly evil character that doesnt have to kill all that comes in his path. I have played evil characters that have done unspeakable evils to simple people. But the evil character does have a sense of order and justice, and will join a party for the company of an intelecual wizard or to further his goals. |
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Zimme
Learned Scribe
Denmark
209 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 10:19:54
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| I play both good and evil, must have variation! ;) |
Sometimes I feel like Beshaba is sitting on my back, devoting her entire attention to me!
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Mr. Wilson
Seeker
USA
73 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 11:02:02
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This is old, but I answered Neutral, usually LN. I have to admit, the most fun I ever had was playing a character who waffled between LE and LN, followed closely up by a LG Monk with a 6 Int.
That said, I can play any alignment, though I dislike playing CE. |
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Jorkens
Great Reader
Norway
2950 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 11:28:09
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| I actually don't use alignment that much any more and I generally DM, but if a backup npc is needed to strengthen the group I prefer NG or CG. The only alignment I am uncomfortable with using even as a DM is CN. |
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Raelan
Acolyte
USA
49 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 15:08:07
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| Personally, I prefer good alignments. I've got a rather cynical worldview in real life, so playing in a setting in which hope actually exists and one can help others without totally screwing himself over in the process is something I cherish. |
"I am convinced that one of these days I will be able to run a regular game that doesn't fall apart due to scheduling conflicts. I am also convinced that, on this day, hell will freeze over." |
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Kalin Agrivar
Senior Scribe
Canada
956 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2006 : 20:37:19
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I play NG 75% of the time, LG 25% of the time...
as a DM I only allow good characters... |
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GothicDan
Master of Realmslore
USA
1103 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2006 : 18:46:17
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Let's see. Off the top of my head, the number of characters I've had of the various alignments -
LG: 2
NG: 3
CG: 3
LN: 3
TN: 2
CN: 1
LE: 2
NE: 3
CE: 2
So, a pretty even spread for the most part. But I DO tend towards 'extremes' of alignments. I play characters that are VERY Chaotic Good, or VERY Lawful Evil, etc. |
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"That attitude should be stomped on, whenever and wherever it's encountered, because it makes people holding such views bad citizens, not just bad roleplayers (considering D&D was structured as a 'forced cooperation' game, and although successive editions are pointing it more and more towards a me-first, min-max game, the drift away from 'we all need each other to succeed' will at some point make it 'no longer' D&D)." - ED GREENWOOD |
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boddynock
Learned Scribe
Belgium
258 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2007 : 23:24:50
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I prefer to play good or neutral characters. Evil characters are good to play in small, evil-minded campaigns, but not for long campaigns. Once upon a time, I played a small drow-campaign and I have to confess I enjoyed the campaign very much. But like, I told you, its good for a short period. If it took to long you become tired watching over your back that your "comrades" don't put a knife in YOUR back. (my companions offered me to Lolth so I became a Drider ... so you understand my fears lol)
I also try to give my characters always a bad habit ... even when they are lawful good. (even a lawful good paladin can have a bad habit ... maybe he is a lil' bit gruff, have a bad smell or somethings else :)) |
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Aglaranna
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 12 Jan 2007 : 23:43:26
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Hm...I usually stick with chaotic good. I can't help it. Sometimes it's fun to mess around with other alignments, but it's all acting for me. Butt-kicking goodness just comes naturally.  |
"You can choose a ready guide
In some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice
You can choose from phantom fears
And kindness that can kill
I will choose the path that's clear
I will choose freewill." -'Freewill' by Rush |
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Grimbolt Hammerhand
Acolyte
Germany
15 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jan 2007 : 11:22:54
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Most of the time I play good aligned characters, but I also played a blackguard once. I liked the Darth Vader style of that character, but after having killed a dozen henchmen for their sheer incompetence and having slaughtered a lot of Ilmater clercis, things became rather boring  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36781 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jan 2007 : 04:24:33
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| I would, at some point, like to try playing an NE character who, for whatever reason, is adventuring with a good-aligned party. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jan 2007 : 04:53:40
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The worst I could ever play anyone was the CN Black Magic User in a Lanhkmar campaign, when I waited until everyone fell asleep and I charmed them so that they would all view me as a friend. I was playing him as completely paranoid, and I didn't even try to get them to do anything bad, but I didn't trust them to be "on my side" without some help.
Of course, this is the same guy that used to carry a broadsword around even though he had no idea how to use it, because he hoped it would make him look more intimidating.
Most of the time though, I play NG characters. In order of most common alignments it would likely be NG, LG, LN, CG for characters that I play. |
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Sian
Senior Scribe
Denmark
596 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jan 2007 : 05:38:35
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| mostly i play NG or CG, but one of my best characters i've played is an NE priest of Auril that changed her faiths towards Akadi and a more neutral point of view, slowly turning towards N(NG) |
what happened to the queen? she's much more hysterical than usual
She's a women, it happens once a month |
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Grehnar
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jan 2007 : 23:17:17
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Beyond the odd cliche from the Order of the Stick, there doesn't seem to be many of us LG-prefering types out there.
But that won't change us! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36781 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jan 2007 : 00:48:50
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Originally posted by Grehnar
Beyond the odd cliche from the Order of the Stick, there doesn't seem to be many of us LG-prefering types out there.
But that won't change us!
I've played a couple LG characters. It's just not my preferred alignment. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jan 2007 : 01:02:56
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| I probably said this already, but I enjoy any type of good, and I like them all about equally. |
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