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Darkstar Daimonizomal
Acolyte
USA
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 Posted - 25 Jul 2009 : 06:24:39
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Cleric and wizard.
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 26 Dec 2009 : 15:17:14
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With none but the Core classes to choose from, I went with the Paladin. Though why all their spells are based off of Wisdom is beyond me, Pathfinder does a pretty good job of making it more of a viable class.
And I can also do UNGODLY amout of damage with Charging Smite, which always makes me feel warm and fuzzy inside  . |
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Kno
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 27 Dec 2009 : 09:13:52
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
713 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2009 : 21:56:47
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There are many classes I really like, but usually I end up being especially fond of the tanks and there it is the
Fighter 
mostly, sometimes also the Ranger (two weapons style) or Paladin.
Also love wizards and sorcerers (and psyonics which I consider most cool), but as said above, in the end it is usually the tanks. |
"You make an intriguing offer, one that is very tempting. It would seem that I have little alternative than to answer thusly: DISINTEGRATE!" Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick 625 |
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Bird844
Acolyte
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Posted - 13 Jan 2010 : 01:47:01
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| I like alot of classes(espesially magic-users), but Wizards are, always have been, and always will be, my favorites. |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Laerrigan
Learned Scribe
USA
195 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2010 : 07:37:38
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| Wizard....I have my complaints about the class as compared to others, but a good DM and quirky, thoughtful RP can work around them or even turn them into great stuff . I think my love of the class is the obsessive artist and the bookish scientist in me dancing around together with linked hands in childish delight at getting to face the same direction and accomplish something as one. And little twists of magic can be just plain fun for secretly backstabbing unsuspecting targets who seriously need it. |
"Your 'reality,' sir, is lies and balderdash, and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever." (Baron Munchausen)
"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was not made for this world." (C.S. Lewis, "Surprised by Joy") |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 23 Mar 2010 : 05:08:20
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Agreed! Course, a well-played bard can do that too- and then write a song about it!! And whoever said they're no good in combat earlier, has obviously never seen me play mine... I think monks are way under-rated, too. There is so much you can do with one depending on how you build/play it.
*starts singing while miming kicks, running up walls, and massive jumps: "Spider-Monk, Spider-Monk...Does whatever...."* |
The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
Lothir's character background/stats: http://forum.candlekeep.com/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=5469
My stories:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Mickeys_Comic_Tavern/index.php?showforum=188
Lothir, courtesy of Sylinde (Deviant Art)/Luaxena (Chosen of Eilistraee)
http://sylinde.deviantart.com/#/d2z6e4u |
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Gambit
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 23 Mar 2010 : 16:35:00
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Originally posted by Knight of the Gate
It's funny: When playing as a teenager, I was all about the fighter/thief- these days, I love me some paladin-ness, though.
Having said that, from a mechanical POV, they're totally drawers. To play what I think of as a 'real' Paladin, you need to hit up a PrC after 5th level. Unless you just LOVE curing disease.
Have you checked out the Pathfinder Paladin.....simply amazing! |
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
588 Posts |
Posted - 29 Mar 2010 : 09:54:57
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Originally posted by Vangelor
Bard. All around good support for any party. And a bard is not necessarily at a loss in combat. A bard makes a lousy meat-shield, but good back-up. A little stealth, a little steel, a little magic - bards do it all. And look good, doing it!
Same here. I mean, fighter is cool, I admire their prowess, but he is reduced to fight only. Wizard is great, but he depends too much on his spells and someone who is completely immune to them is his bane. Specialising is good but vain at the same time. Why I must concentrate on battle if there won't be any? Seriously, in the age of absolute harmony and understanding fighters will be extinct.
With some planning you can overcome foes that no greatest warrior or wizard can overcome. For such people bard is created.Bard is someone, who must do all talk, patch up here and there, cast some useful spell here, singing ballad to raise spirit or annoy enemies all along. Basicaly, bard of epic level is omnipotent, master of all and nothing.
Too bad that I don't have enough diplomacy to persuade harpers of letting me join them, ignoring my half-drow heritage. |
You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias
"May your harp be unstrung, your dreams die and all your songs be unsung." - curse of the harper, The Code of the Harpers 2 ed.
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
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Laerrigan
Learned Scribe
USA
195 Posts |
Posted - 30 Mar 2010 : 07:37:29
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Tell me about it. Try gettng a drow bard into Evermeet!
That's what a big "dumb" elven fighter friend is for. "Look at the stuffed drow trophy I brought to show my love for our queen! It even plays music! Those silly gnomes...."
Expeditious retreat might be good to have on hand, since translocation will probably be blocked. Stupid humorless elven nobles.... |
"Your 'reality,' sir, is lies and balderdash, and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever." (Baron Munchausen)
"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was not made for this world." (C.S. Lewis, "Surprised by Joy") |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
2165 Posts |
Posted - 30 Mar 2010 : 21:42:41
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Until 4th Edition my favorite class has always been Wizard.
Before NOW, they had the most versatile function in the game.
My favorite character actually started as an Illusionist; but only because I knew once I had the spells of the Illusionist I was going to dual-class into Wizard to rack up some serious spells...and thus was born Dalor Nal'Raesik Darden (DND).
Now, I'm leaning toward Warlock or Rogue for 4th Edition...and trying really hard to like the new rules; but nearly three decades as a wizard player is making it hard to do!
Really? I LOVE the new rules... Pathfinder rocks!
My favourite class... okay, let's go edition-by-edition here...
1E: Ranger or Wizard.
2E: Early: Fighter (Complete Fighter's Handbook FTW) or Wizard
2E: Late: Ranger (Complete Ranger's Handbook FTW!) or Wizard
3.0: Fighter or Wizard; sorcerers are cool too, but metamagic feats make wizards somewhat superior imho (and I know there will be others who disagree on this).
3.5: Barbarian, Fighter, Ranger or Wizard; same thing for sorcerers as 3.0; UA gestalt Bbn/Rgr (no spells) FTW!
4E: What's the difference? Seriously: From what little we played before switching permanently back to 3.5/over to Pathfinder: Fighter or Ranger.
Pathfinder: Barbarian, Fighter, Paladin, Ranger, or Wizard; I always liked playing Paladins before, but Pathfinder made them brilliant! If I had to pick a single Pathfinder class, it would probably be Paladin, but Rangers and Barbarians will always make that a tough decision for me. |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3240 Posts |
Posted - 30 Mar 2010 : 21:57:05
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Originally posted by Jakk
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden
Until 4th Edition my favorite class has always been Wizard.
Before NOW, they had the most versatile function in the game.
My favorite character actually started as an Illusionist; but only because I knew once I had the spells of the Illusionist I was going to dual-class into Wizard to rack up some serious spells...and thus was born Dalor Nal'Raesik Darden (DND).
Now, I'm leaning toward Warlock or Rogue for 4th Edition...and trying really hard to like the new rules; but nearly three decades as a wizard player is making it hard to do!
Really? I LOVE the new rules... Pathfinder rocks!
My favourite class... okay, let's go edition-by-edition here...
1E: Ranger or Wizard.
2E: Early: Fighter (Complete Fighter's Handbook FTW) or Wizard
2E: Late: Ranger (Complete Ranger's Handbook FTW!) or Wizard
3.0: Fighter or Wizard; sorcerers are cool too, but metamagic feats make wizards somewhat superior imho (and I know there will be others who disagree on this).
3.5: Barbarian, Fighter, Ranger or Wizard; same thing for sorcerers as 3.0; UA gestalt Bbn/Rgr (no spells) FTW!
4E: What's the difference? Seriously: From what little we played before switching permanently back to 3.5/over to Pathfinder: Fighter or Ranger.
Pathfinder: Barbarian, Fighter, Paladin, Ranger, or Wizard; I always liked playing Paladins before, but Pathfinder made them brilliant! If I had to pick a single Pathfinder class, it would probably be Paladin, but Rangers and Barbarians will always make that a tough decision for me.
I think that the Paladin and Bards are the ones that got the biggest boost with Pathfinder. Having the paladin's spellcasting be based off Charisma and the divine bond with their sword (instead of a career searching for a Holy Avenger) is brilliant. And the bard's versatile performance ability makes putting ranks in multiple Perform skills more engaging. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
588 Posts |
Posted - 31 Mar 2010 : 06:15:43
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Tell me about it. Try gettng a drow bard into Evermeet!
I AM NOT DROW!!! I AM HALF-DROW!
If you judge by the avatar, then shame on you.There is just no half-drow avatar. Moreover, what in Nine Hells do I have with Underdark and drow except from heritage!? What if I am Drizzt's unacknowledged son?
Well... The idea was to use my heritage to help harpers to plant spies in evil encampments. I just have to wait for approval. |
You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias
"May your harp be unstrung, your dreams die and all your songs be unsung." - curse of the harper, The Code of the Harpers 2 ed.
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 31 Mar 2010 : 06:18:29
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Originally posted by Laerrigan
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Tell me about it. Try gettng a drow bard into Evermeet!
That's what a big "dumb" elven fighter friend is for. "Look at the stuffed drow trophy I brought to show my love for our queen! It even plays music! Those silly gnomes...."
Expeditious retreat might be good to have on hand, since translocation will probably be blocked. Stupid humorless elven nobles....
LOL!!! Hmm, put enough ranks into perform-mime, and you might even be able to pull that off!! But why settle for Exped Ret when you've got Invis and Silence?
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The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
Lothir's character background/stats: http://forum.candlekeep.com/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=5469
My stories:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Mickeys_Comic_Tavern/index.php?showforum=188
Lothir, courtesy of Sylinde (Deviant Art)/Luaxena (Chosen of Eilistraee)
http://sylinde.deviantart.com/#/d2z6e4u |
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Laerrigan
Learned Scribe
USA
195 Posts |
Posted - 31 Mar 2010 : 08:21:52
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'Cause High Mages have a nasty habit of seeing through invisibility, IIRC. But they never expect you to escape with a coward's favorite 1st level spell. After all, who the heck uses kitschy base-level magic for outwitting epics? Like ninja don't expect you to throw a pillow into their face when they sneak up to your bed in the middle of the night. [sage, solemn nod]
/OT....  lol |
"Your 'reality,' sir, is lies and balderdash, and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever." (Baron Munchausen)
"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was not made for this world." (C.S. Lewis, "Surprised by Joy") |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 31 Mar 2010 : 23:25:09
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Originally posted by Sill Alias
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Tell me about it. Try gettng a drow bard into Evermeet!
I AM NOT DROW!!! I AM HALF-DROW!
If you judge by the avatar, then shame on you.There is just no half-drow avatar. Moreover, what in Nine Hells do I have with Underdark and drow except from heritage!? What if I am Drizzt's unacknowledged son?
Well... The idea was to use my heritage to help harpers to plant spies in evil encampments. I just have to wait for approval.
Easy, big guy! I was talking about mine. He's a full-blood drow bard, who would like nothing better than to see the so-called "Elven Homeland" he's heard so much about. Alas, even Eilistraeeans are still barred from there. I didn't even notice your avatar, to be honest.
Hey, Laer- you're right, of course, but don't they kinda have to suspect someone is even there before they start looking for Invis creatures? Exp Ret is still a good spell, though, but then again, so is Hideous Laughter- they'd be too busy rolling on the floor to chase after him! |
The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
Lothir's character background/stats: http://forum.candlekeep.com/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=5469
My stories:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Mickeys_Comic_Tavern/index.php?showforum=188
Lothir, courtesy of Sylinde (Deviant Art)/Luaxena (Chosen of Eilistraee)
http://sylinde.deviantart.com/#/d2z6e4u |
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Laerrigan
Learned Scribe
USA
195 Posts |
Posted - 31 Mar 2010 : 23:42:19
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Hey, Laer- you're right, of course, but don't they kinda have to suspect someone is even there before they start looking for Invis creatures? Exp Ret is still a good spell, though, but then again, so is Hideous Laughter- they'd be too busy rolling on the floor to chase after him!
Ok, this is not OT because it's part of what I love about a magic-using class ---all the little quirks of tactics besides judging terrain and positioning in combat (not to knock non-casters at all, they have their own forms of awesomeness, it's just my own preference for handling confrontations).
Don't High Mages have butt-kicking spell resistance (not to mention likely having all kinds of protective items or permanent spells on them)? Or is that just part of my friend's house rules that I've been playing by for a couple of years....In any case, in an emergency, never rely on targeting someone with a spell if you're pretty darn sure they're way more powerful than you  . Especially if there are a lot of them fairly close. SR and saves suck when your enemy gets them. "Target: You" is the way to go. And I was talking about how to escape if you went in as a mechanized stuffed drow life-size music box . They'd already see you before you went invisible.
Crap like that gave my first long-term DM headaches....but made for some really fun gaming for us all, lol. |
"Your 'reality,' sir, is lies and balderdash, and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever." (Baron Munchausen)
"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was not made for this world." (C.S. Lewis, "Surprised by Joy") |
Edited by - Laerrigan on 31 Mar 2010 23:43:35 |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Laerrigan
Learned Scribe
USA
195 Posts |
Posted - 01 Apr 2010 : 00:27:05
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Ok, you win the "my class beats your class in this scenario" |
"Your 'reality,' sir, is lies and balderdash, and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever." (Baron Munchausen)
"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was not made for this world." (C.S. Lewis, "Surprised by Joy") |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
588 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2010 : 10:31:36
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
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Originally posted by Sill Alias
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Originally posted by Alystra Illianniis
Tell me about it. Try gettng a drow bard into Evermeet!
I AM NOT DROW!!! I AM HALF-DROW!
If you judge by the avatar, then shame on you.There is just no half-drow avatar. Moreover, what in Nine Hells do I have with Underdark and drow except from heritage!? What if I am Drizzt's unacknowledged son?
Well... The idea was to use my heritage to help harpers to plant spies in evil encampments. I just have to wait for approval.
Easy, big guy! I was talking about mine. He's a full-blood drow bard, who would like nothing better than to see the so-called "Elven Homeland" he's heard so much about. Alas, even Eilistraeeans are still barred from there. I didn't even notice your avatar, to be honest.
I am sorry, my lady, please accept my apologies for such outburst. I hope our characters will meet one day. The truth is I believe, that there is alternative world, that uses the energy of minds to give flesh to our fantasies (like Outer planes). In that world the characters we created are living their lives freely, almost like in some old book, based on D&D about magic playboard and players, who created their characters, and unadvertendly gave them lives in their played world. Their characters one time contacted them, when one of the DMs created some kind of Elder Evil creature. I'm searching for this book on english, but I can't remember the title.
Well, the moral is - keep your characters, they are not just some shells or your imagination. They are beings with your essence.
By the way, why do you see elves as some kind of racists? |
You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias
"May your harp be unstrung, your dreams die and all your songs be unsung." - curse of the harper, The Code of the Harpers 2 ed.
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Apr 2010 : 15:47:38
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Originally posted by Sill Alias
By the way, why do you see elves as some kind of racists?
There has been a LOT of fiction in the last five or six decades that portrayed elves as everything from 'superiority-complexed snobs' to outright genocidal rascists.
Looking at just Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms fiction, many of the elves of Krynn and Faerūn believe they are superior to the other races due to their long lives and longer racial memories. I'm not going to start the who racism argument here (put down the stick, Wooly) because it's been done over and over and OVER again on every forum that exists. But many authors portray that some elves interact with the other races like 'adults interacting with children'. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
Ashe's Character Sheet
Alphabetized Index of Realms NPCs |
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Alystra Illianniis
Great Reader
USA
3750 Posts |
Posted - 03 Apr 2010 : 19:41:21
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Well, I don't see most of them as being actively racist, but as Ashe said, they do tend to have a slightly condecending attitude toward most other races, with the possible exception of dwarves, who they seem to see as equal, but odd. I was simply stating that as of the latest canon I am aware of, the Mythal that protects Evermeet currently bars ALL drow from entering, or was supposed to, regardless of their actual alignment or faith. Thus, any elf of drow blood full or half) would be unable to go there, at least up to the invasion that occured in Cunningham's book Evermeet. some apparently came up from tunnels below the island, but those were collapsed after the invaders were repeled. Queen Amlaruil was supposed to be negotiating with some of Eilistraee's followers to bend the restriction, but I don't know if that ever came about.
I'm not familiar with the book you mentioned, but it sounds like a theory of mine that everything ever imagined or created in fiction is real in some other world/dimention/reality (call it what you will) and we simply tap into those other worlds when we dream something up, be it comic-book heroes, fantasy characters, or what-have-you. But if that's the case, then my characters would likely wish to have words with me over some of the things that I've put them through! (A certain young bard and a mutant teen hero would probably be the first to complain...) |
The Goddess is alive, and magic is afoot.
"Where Science ends, Magic begins" -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491
"You idiots! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -Spaceballs
Lothir's character background/stats: http://forum.candlekeep.com/pop_profile.asp?mode=display&id=5469
My stories:
http://z3.invisionfree.com/Mickeys_Comic_Tavern/index.php?showforum=188
Lothir, courtesy of Sylinde (Deviant Art)/Luaxena (Chosen of Eilistraee)
http://sylinde.deviantart.com/#/d2z6e4u |
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Sill Alias
Senior Scribe
Kazakhstan
588 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2010 : 07:29:17
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| Revenge of the characters! LOL! Bards still rule. |
You can hear many tales from many mouths. The most difficult is to know which of them are not lies. - Sill Alias
"May your harp be unstrung, your dreams die and all your songs be unsung." - curse of the harper, The Code of the Harpers 2 ed.
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Laerrigan
Learned Scribe
USA
195 Posts |
Posted - 05 Apr 2010 : 07:42:23
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| "Gamers" movie.... |
"Your 'reality,' sir, is lies and balderdash, and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever." (Baron Munchausen)
"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was not made for this world." (C.S. Lewis, "Surprised by Joy") |
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Alystra Illianniis
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Laerrigan
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 05 Apr 2010 : 20:59:24
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| You completely missed the "Gamers" movie? *SPOILER* The players' PCs find them and kill them. It's freaking hilarious spoof, start to finish, made by people who really know fantasy tabletop RPing, lol. Absolute classic. |
"Your 'reality,' sir, is lies and balderdash, and I'm delighted to say that I have no grasp of it whatsoever." (Baron Munchausen)
"If I find in myself a desire which no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that I was not made for this world." (C.S. Lewis, "Surprised by Joy") |
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Ashe Ravenheart
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