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mastergeorge
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 05 Jan 2003 : 17:59:57
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What kind of thing do you use to upset your players if they are uncareful in using their wishes?
A particularly good one is if the players wish for an army and a stronghold, they get a terrible hoarde of Weasels and badger set.
--mastergeorge
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AutoSponge
Acolyte
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Posted - 06 Jan 2003 : 02:49:57
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| I never have and probably never will run or play a game that involves wishes. If I did it would probably be just as restrictive as the computer games. Basically it can only simulate another spells effects or make a spell effect permanent. It can be a permanent illusion of a stronghold, but not a stronghold per se. |
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Rellen Amostirren
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Jan 2003 : 21:31:08
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I think my favourite was when the party accidently gained a wish, they thought that they could vanquish their foe in one well worded spell...
"I wish <insert nasty grey haired mage enemy's name> would die!!"
The next time they came across the nasty mage imagine their surprise when they saw that the mage had "DYED" his hair black that is!! 
That taught them not to trust wishes they found "accidently" in dungeons!! 
Something similar occured in a campaign I played in. The campaign hinged on getting a name from a recently slain enemy. The name would be the proof we needed that the King's advisor was behind all the nastiness going on in the realm. The cocky cleric, cast his speak with dead spell. He had only one question he could ask before the soul drifted away.....
"Well...." says the cleric.
"Actually no because Im dead!!" answers the spirit who, with the one question answered departs for his soul's final resting place.
That was the best mixed up word play I'd ever seen in a campaign, we all laughed and groaned around the table, but for our characters it put years on finally solving that campaign!!
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mastergeorge
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jan 2003 : 13:37:43
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Lol, that was a quite a well done bit of Dm'ing, if not a little harsh. Were you Dm'ing that game, or were you playing.
One from the Baldurs Gate 2 game:
Cast spell: limited wish
"I wish that none of my party would die of their wounds"
Effect: All party suddenly drop dead of a supernatural illness with no cure or respite. |
"And in his death he shall spawn a score of mortal prodgeny, so sayeth the wise Alaundo."
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Rellen Amostirren
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jan 2003 : 19:47:56
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The first one I DM'ed, the second one I played in lol. I remember once awarding a player with a wish and him being so terrified of using it, in case I twisted the meaning, that he packed his stuff and left the game early....
.... he never EVER used that wish!!
lol
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ArcticKnight
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 07 Jan 2003 : 19:59:33
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Early in our gaming days when Plate Mail was all the rage. one of my players wished that he had Plate mail that had been enchanted 4 times over (+4 Plate)
so being devious, a wonderful suit of Enchanted Plate mail did infact appear on the Character. But it was a suit of Interlocking DINNER PLATES!!!!! LMAO i love it!!!! and it was enchanted with 4 different "Dinner" related magics!!!
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mastergeorge
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Jan 2003 : 21:13:19
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At least the poor bloke didn't go hungry!
C'mon, there must be some more people out there with evil deeds that they have inflicted upon their players!
--mastergeorge |
"And in his death he shall spawn a score of mortal prodgeny, so sayeth the wise Alaundo."
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Bookwyrm
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 14 Apr 2003 : 15:48:25
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Whoo! I must say I had a good laugh reading this topic! You people could give a leprechaun a run for his money! (And I'm talking the "real" ones, not the silly fantasy versions!)
Now, I don't have anything to add, really, but I wanted to resurrect this topic so that other people would know it was here, and maybe we (I) could get some more laughs! |
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 14 Apr 2003 : 23:24:55
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There are two things I have done to be nasty.
One person wished for the soell absorbing Ioun stone. They wished they had one. So they got one. It was fully lodges in the bone of thier A*S and they got a -2 dex penalty until they dug it out. Basically had to be killed, dig the stone out, and Raise Dead.
The other was one particular annoying player (when I was running in a game store) decided to be oh so by wishing for the item the party was going on quest for. I wish I had the Goblet in my hands, right now.
He thought that was enough... He thought wrong.
Immediately he was transported to the bottom of the magma pit where the enchanted goblet was. SSSSSSSS! The party was supposed to convince a salamander, eventually, to go get it for them. The party succeeded in their quest, but that particular character was beyond ressurection... Pity.
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Targon Moonrise
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 15 Apr 2003 : 05:51:35
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| I love the Ioun stone and the goblet wishes. If I ever DM'ed and they used a wish, I'd make sure to do something like that to the party. |
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Lich Lord
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 18 Apr 2003 : 06:52:20
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LOL after 3 very bad encounters with wishes my players have just about given up on that spell.
WISHES GRANTED round 1 be careful what you wish for.
my players were fighting an army of grey dwarves and were cornered in a little room.
Banden (the cleric): I wish the grey dwarves never existed)
DM: are you sure?
Banden: yes, they are going to kill us all.
DM: are you absoultely sure that is your wish?
Banden: yes
DM: as you wish, granted. the blight of the grey dwarves was never released upon the land. many people now live that were killed by there raids, and a lonely mount stands still untouched by hammer or pick. standing as a moument to the 5 poor adventures trapped in solid stone.
DM:1 adventures: 0 round 2 ignorence is not bliss.
my players were plundering a dragon hoard and found a ring of three wishes but didn't know what it was. the cleric puts it on till someone can cast identfy on it. they are walking out of the cave.
Fighter: wonder what kind of dragon will take up in here next.
Cleric: I don't know. i wish it would just collapse.
DM: granted. huge blocks of stone start falling from the celing of the cave.
they were able to make reflex saves every 20 feet. they were unlucky that day but the theif almost made it out. if he had succeeded one more time he would have made it.
DM: 2 adventures 0 round 3 percentage dice can do some strange things.
adventures are faceing a mad cleric.
Mad cleric: i wish for a great red wyrm to attack these fools. ( i was using a 3% chance of success on the spell. i never thought it would accually come up 3%. it did.)
DM: a magic gate opens before you and the snout of a red dragon starts through, smoke curls out of it's nose, and-
Thief: run!
they got away that time but they had to tack the cleric down again.
DM: 3 adventures: 0 |
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Targon Moonrise
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 18 Apr 2003 : 23:34:48
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ROFL!!!!! I loved that! Just remember, be careful what you wish for. |
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 02 May 2003 : 17:40:00
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Originally posted by mastergeorge
What kind of thing do you use to upset your players if they are uncareful in using their wishes?
A particularly good one is if the players wish for an army and a stronghold, they get a terrible hoarde of Weasels and badger set.
--mastergeorge
And yet again I shall give you my plot upon wishes. I do not give wishes. Incaft if someone finds anything in my game that is a whish item (unles they have the spell of wish which I will twist a bit to my own DMish likings) is a ring. This ring refuses to be identifyed. After all. Most party members are going to wan tto pay cheap to get their items looked over by a mage. And .. Since wish is a high ranked spell ... it wont be identifyed.... Later on... Eventully the bearer of the ring might ask "I wish I knew what this ring dose" ... and that is the time that you let them know that it was a ring of wishes.... Witch one charge.... heh  |
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Cult_Leader
Learned Scribe
USA
337 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2003 : 17:43:03
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Originally posted by Lich Lord
LOL after 3 very bad encounters with wishes my players have just about given up on that spell.
WISHES GRANTED round 1 be careful what you wish for.
my players were fighting an army of grey dwarves and were cornered in a little room.
Banden (the cleric): I wish the grey dwarves never existed)
DM: are you sure?
Banden: yes, they are going to kill us all.
DM: are you absoultely sure that is your wish?
Banden: yes
DM: as you wish, granted. the blight of the grey dwarves was never released upon the land. many people now live that were killed by there raids, and a lonely mount stands still untouched by hammer or pick. standing as a moument to the 5 poor adventures trapped in solid stone.
DM:1 adventures: 0 round 2 ignorence is not bliss.
my players were plundering a dragon hoard and found a ring of three wishes but didn't know what it was. the cleric puts it on till someone can cast identfy on it. they are walking out of the cave.
Fighter: wonder what kind of dragon will take up in here next.
Cleric: I don't know. i wish it would just collapse.
DM: granted. huge blocks of stone start falling from the celing of the cave.
they were able to make reflex saves every 20 feet. they were unlucky that day but the theif almost made it out. if he had succeeded one more time he would have made it.
DM: 2 adventures 0 round 3 percentage dice can do some strange things.
adventures are faceing a mad cleric.
Mad cleric: i wish for a great red wyrm to attack these fools. ( i was using a 3% chance of success on the spell. i never thought it would accually come up 3%. it did.)
DM: a magic gate opens before you and the snout of a red dragon starts through, smoke curls out of it's nose, and-
Thief: run!
they got away that time but they had to tack the cleric down again.
DM: 3 adventures: 0
I will state this. There is one time a chars whishes would come true. And that is when they wished that they could kill the terask.... It even states in the monster manuel that you need a wish to kill it. |
"Madness you say! Do you fear me? Are you afraid of what I might do, of what I might say? What a fascinating reaction. Don't you find it somewhat encumbering?"
Piddles assumes a deep and resonant voice. "Space...the Final Frontier. These are the voyages of the starship...Garou. It's mission: to slay Wyrm creatures where they live and breed. To accumulate more Garou than the world's entire population. To produce metis like no one has before." - Piddles
"Aren't you people supposed to be doing something? Like, entertaining me, the fascist wizard?" - InleRah
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 21 May 2003 : 22:28:59
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Heh you folk are vicious. I make it plainly known to my players that wishes not worded carefully can be disasterous, as well as wishes used to inflict harm directly on another lifeform.
This leaves so much leeway but they are afraid to actually use up the wishes so they never get used.
Nighteyes often writes out his wishes before he casts them and makes sure to close all the loopholes and so on. He has never been nailed by a bad wish but he never uses them foolishly.
I am actually thinking about a new kind of wish such as a Greater Benevolent Wish such as one that would be granted by a Greater Power or above. Such a wish would be interpreted in the best possible way for the wisher and would be exceedingly rare. As in only granted once in 10000 years by a greater artifact or by a greater god. Something along those lines |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 26 May 2003 : 08:17:57
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I have nothing to add at present to these discussions, other than I place very tight restrictions on the usage of the 'Wish' spell in my campaigns. It is a potential problem creator if not used appropriately, and when used in my campaign, the caster must pass a series of stringent tests in order to carry out his/her 'wishes'.
I am however, having a delightful time reading about some of these other experiences that go along with using the 'Wish' special - very interesting .
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I am actually thinking about a new kind of wish such as a Greater Benevolent Wish such as one that would be granted by a Greater Power or above. Such a wish would be interpreted in the best possible way for the wisher and would be exceedingly rare. As in only granted once in 10000 years by a greater artifact or by a greater god. Something along those lines
I once used something like this in my Planescape campaign several years ago. I was running under a modified cosmology, and Baator was the plane of Hell. There was no Abyss, Limbo etc. just a chaotic evil realm called Hell. Anyway, to get to the point, the Gods of Light needed to retreive an item of holy creation from the pits of Hell, so the Gods gave the PC's (they were all 30th level characters in 2e) the power of a Godly-wish spell in order to help them complete their mission. Understandably, there had to be restrictions on what the PC's could ask for, but in the end, the 'Gods' Wish' as it became known worked so well that it soon found itself in my homebrew spellbook. It was only to be used once more before the conversion to 3e, but at the time I placed it alongside the Quest Spells of the old 2e Tome of Magic, so that a very precise set of circumstances had to be met before the spell could ever be granted or used.
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