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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 05 May 2009 :  14:37:30  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@sfdragon: whatever it turns out she is, Myrin is NOT a genasi. Nor is she an orc, elf, dwarf, halfling . . .

@gomez: I couldn't speculate on all the titles right now, but Twilight (who the books are loosely based on) has been to Shadowdale on at least one very memorable occasion.

Cheers

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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

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gomez
Learned Scribe

Netherlands
254 Posts

Posted - 06 May 2009 :  09:25:28  Show Profile  Visit gomez's Homepage Send gomez a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe she is a reborn Deva? Her looks don't match, but that doesn't say anything, as Fayne demonstrates - I am now just reading the events at the revel.
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sfdragon
Great Reader

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Posted - 09 May 2009 :  03:54:32  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
finished downshadow, very enjoyable

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edappel
Learned Scribe

Brazil
211 Posts

Posted - 26 May 2009 :  16:44:57  Show Profile  Click to see edappel's MSN Messenger address Send edappel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Erik, do you read the reviews of yours books on Amazon?
I read "downshadow" review and had a good surprise.
3 reviews, two of them 5/5, the other 4/5.

But... look what the "Four star person]" wrote about one thing that he liked on your book:

In Ghostwalker Mr. de Bie showed that he could write a fight scene almost as well as R.A. Salvatore, however in this book he proves he is no longer near the level of Salvatore, but equal to (if not better) than Salvatore. The fight scenes in this book are descriptive, action packed, but more importantly they are realistic.



Congratulations for that. It's hard to find a 4,7/5,0 book on Amazon.com

Probably, on the near future I well buy some autographed copy from you. I'm waiting anxiously to have it on my hands.

--- Ed Appel

*** I'm a brazilian FR fan. So, feel free to correct my writing mistakes to improve my english.
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4586 Posts

Posted - 26 May 2009 :  17:46:09  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Awesome, Ed. Thanks for taking the time to read up on the book.

Yes, I have been blessed by good reviews of my books, this one in particular. Thanks to all those who took the time to share with me how they felt about my work.

That said, we could always use more! If you read DS, like it, and believe in it (or, more probably, you want to see what happens next), post a review! I would count it as a personal favor.

(Plus, you're more likely to secure a walk-on role in my next novel. You'll likely be killed mercilessly within a page or two, but hey. )

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

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skychrome
Senior Scribe

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Posted - 27 May 2009 :  01:20:30  Show Profile  Visit skychrome's Homepage Send skychrome a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Erik, I will finally get DS shipped down here and I can't wait to read it (thanks to your marketing activities here which come close to psychological torture *drools on the keyboard*)!

I will let you know how I liked it as soon as I finish it.

"You make an intriguing offer, one that is very tempting. It would seem that I have little alternative than to answer thusly: DISINTEGRATE!" Vaarsuvius, Order of the Stick 625
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 27 May 2009 :  01:44:28  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Excellent. I hope you enjoy.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

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sfdragon
Great Reader

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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 :  10:47:35  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
so is it possible to use Vindicator to resurrect Helm???


and would you do it given the chance??

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4586 Posts

Posted - 03 Jun 2009 :  15:25:08  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

so is it possible to use Vindicator to resurrect Helm???
and would you do it given the chance??

That's an interesting idea . . . it is indeed possible that the godsword holds some of his essence inside . . .

Whether I'd do it or not depends entirely on the demands of the story and the direction of the Realms. I kinda like Helm's status as a mostly-forgotten deity who still kicks ass from beyond the grave at the moment. Who knows if I'd want him to come back?

CHeers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

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sfdragon
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Posted - 03 Jun 2009 :  17:37:25  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
never liked Tyr.


dont care to much for Torm.
liked him better than tyr.

liked Helm...







(never betray your trust)

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Erethar
Seeker

Germany
20 Posts

Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  13:08:12  Show Profile  Visit Erethar's Homepage Send Erethar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's some time since I posted here, but i finally tackled Depths of madness and completed it.

First of all, it was a really good read. I liked how the reader is thrown into the unknown and then discovers what's going on along with the protagonists. What I liked as well was how the characters at first seemed a collection of stereotypes but then deepened alongside the way.
As i already read in some reviews, the dungeon IS the main protagonist. Your descriptions set the mood of the various environments very good, I got a very clear picture in my head. Also your approach to the demise of characters was refreshing as you didn't shy away from gory ends to sympathetic figures like the elf.
Another point from a gamers point of view (though I don't play myself) is, that in the End you give a DM a great Adventure Hook in an original setting with lots of possibilities.

The one thing that put a little flaw in the hole thing for me is that I couldn't get warm with the main character - Fox. She goes too intimate too fast for my liking, likewise in the greater treasure. but on the other Side your description of Erevans behavior was brilliant and I think tackled this God exactly as it should.

I look forward to downshadow, which I will read after i finish the twilight war and shield of wheeping ghosts. Keep up the good work!

regards,
Erethar
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4586 Posts

Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  14:18:47  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erethar

It's some time since I posted here, but i finally tackled Depths of madness and completed it.

Erethar--good to see you again, and I'm glad you enjoyed the book! Thanks for the feedback.

quote:
The one thing that put a little flaw in the hole thing for me is that I couldn't get warm with the main character - Fox. She goes too intimate too fast for my liking, likewise in the greater treasure.

Hmm. Good feedback as well. It's interesting you use the word "intimate"--do you mean that she is quick to establish a deep emotional connection or that she just "moves fast" (i.e., gets sexual with guys she likes very quickly)? Because my intention is to have her use physical intimacy as a way of *avoiding* emotional attachment; i.e., the reason she moves fast is to keep herself from building a relationship with someone.

Whether that works for you or not is a totally separate issue--I just wanted to let you know what I was going for.

I'd be curious to see your reaction to her in my later work . . .

quote:
but on the other Side your description of Erevans behavior was brilliant and I think tackled this God exactly as it should.

Glad you liked it. Erevan is one of my favorites, and it's good to hear that I did him right.

quote:
I look forward to downshadow, which I will read after i finish the twilight war and shield of wheeping ghosts. Keep up the good work!


I will, and I hope you enjoy those books as well!

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Signature of Shameless Self-Promotion +6: Order my sixth novel, Shadow of the Winter King (Amazon, e-signing, Dragonmoon Press)

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Erethar
Seeker

Germany
20 Posts

Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  15:37:38  Show Profile  Visit Erethar's Homepage Send Erethar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It was the "move fast" thing. but I must say if she does it to avoid emotional attachment, I don't get it how this will help. And in Depths, it sure didn't worked for her too :)

But I can see that this perhaps comes from the relationship with Erevan which you hinted at. The love of a God combined with betrayals in the past (I interpret the hints on her past like that) can drive one mad ;)

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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4586 Posts

Posted - 04 Jun 2009 :  16:30:27  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erethar

It was the "move fast" thing. but I must say if she does it to avoid emotional attachment, I don't get it how this will help.

Well, rushing into physical intimacy before a relationship is sufficiently progressed causes its own problems--usually the ending of said relationship. So Twilight basically scuttles her relationships before they get much of a chance . . . except for the occasions when she meets up with someone who gets really attached to her, in which case it doesn't work and causes her more headaches. (I think "The Greater Treasure" showed an example of the "love-em-and-leave-em" pattern Twilight prefers).

What I'm going for here is to make Twilight self-destructive in a lot of ways--a very flawed anti-heroic sort of character.

quote:
And in Depths, it sure didn't worked for her too :)

Case in point. She saw that she *could* fall in love with this Liet guy, acted to avoid it, failed, and suffered major consequences.

quote:
But I can see that this perhaps comes from the relationship with Erevan which you hinted at. The love of a God combined with betrayals in the past (I interpret the hints on her past like that) can drive one mad ;)

Erevan is not an easy god to know/follow/love.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4586 Posts

Posted - 05 Jun 2009 :  22:35:12  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey all,

This post was spawned in the discussion of there being "too many good looking characters" in the Realms--specifically, I noted that I (as a man) was hard-wired to admire good-looking ladies, and it was observed (about Downshadow specifically) that sometimes I have said good-looking ladies make out. Which I, as a man, don't mind either.

So I wanted to say something about how I treat non-heterosexuality in my novels, but it was a substantial tangent from the discussion at hand. Thus, here:

The sexuality thing is an important issue. I don't make it a habit to *out* my characters (unless it's significant to the plot), meaning their romantic preferences are, generally speaking, a matter of interpretation.

If I include characters who could be interpreted as being attracted to members of the same sex, it isn't because it's titillating for me (though again, ahem!)--it's because I try to be sensitive to the issues (I'm very interested in gender theory) and want to portray my characters the way they should be: as real people with real feelings and characteristics.

(Or you could just view it as everybody being attracted to everybody and huzzah--it is the Realms, after all!)

Though I will confess that I wrote three 100% same-sex-attracted named-characters in Downshadow, but it's very subtle, and I don't really expect anyone to pick up on it.

(Hint: Not Kalen, obviously--or Fayne, who is "greedy.")

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

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sfdragon
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  20:02:52  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hmmmm Fox at twilight.

never told anyone, but My take on she who gets her p;oint across, always seamed to act like a rebellious daughter.

She isnt Erevan's Daughter is she??


( she problely has used that line on someone.....(

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Erethar
Seeker

Germany
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Posted - 06 Jun 2009 :  21:18:45  Show Profile  Visit Erethar's Homepage Send Erethar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think not, for in 'The greater treasure' she hints at a sexual relationship with Erevan
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sfdragon
Great Reader

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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 :  01:09:37  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
that would still depend on if she was telling the truth.



why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4586 Posts

Posted - 07 Jun 2009 :  07:02:53  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It would be really creepy if I said "yes" to both questions, wouldn't it?

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'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

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sfdragon
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 :  09:44:47  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

It would be really creepy if I said "yes" to both questions, wouldn't it?

Cheers

well if you did, it would explain why she always said his betrayal.......

so no, I wouldnt find it creepy, just strange.....

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Erethar
Seeker

Germany
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 :  10:48:40  Show Profile  Visit Erethar's Homepage Send Erethar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, she could be lying, but in Depths he visits her at the end, and if i recall correctly, no father should show such behavior ;)
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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4586 Posts

Posted - 07 Jun 2009 :  18:40:05  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
She also appears rather bewildered to see him . . . much as though they have never actually met.

But then, it *is* a dream sequence . . . who knows?

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Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

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sfdragon
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Posted - 07 Jun 2009 :  18:57:32  Show Profile Send sfdragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

She also appears rather bewildered to see him . . . much as though they have never actually met.

But then, it *is* a dream sequence . . . who knows?

Cheers



well I'd imagine you'd know......

hmmmm fox at twilight.... could you see her dating Kalen?

why is being a wizard like being a drow? both are likely to find a dagger in the back from a rival or one looking to further his own goals, fame and power


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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4586 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2009 :  15:19:39  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sfdragon

hmmmm fox at twilight.... could you see her dating Kalen?

Well, anything is possible. [wink wink]

Burning living things at a touch kind of puts a damper on romance, though . . . then again, he doesn't feel pain, so how would that work?

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

'Tis easier to destroy than to create.

Signature of Shameless Self-Promotion +6: Order my sixth novel, Shadow of the Winter King (Amazon, e-signing, Dragonmoon Press)

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Kastaph
Acolyte

USA
5 Posts

Posted - 14 Jun 2009 :  03:00:19  Show Profile  Visit Kastaph's Homepage  Click to see Kastaph's MSN Messenger address Send Kastaph a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey, Erik.

I just wanted to drop by and compliment you on the fine works you have done for Forgotten Realms. I own Realms of the Elves, and your contribution was fantastic. I also managed to procure the Depths of Madness and Downshadow.

Before anything else, I must say that your work on Downshadow was outstanding. Without a doubt, one of the best I've read of late.

"Depths" was also very good, though, like another on this forum, I have similar issues with Twilight. She is a very well thought out character, don't get me wrong (I mean, if she wasn't, how could we like her or not?) Though I think my issue stems from the end of the Realms of the Elves, leaving poor ole' Yldar (Whom I adore. He reminds me a lot of one of my own characters, Urlyn, another Sun Elf Duskblade)

That aside, I love your work, and look forward to future projects.
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