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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 18 Apr 2007 :  02:56:11  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have to agree, though, it can be pretty hard to feel sexy when you are dirty, smelly, and afraid. Anyone who can feel sexy even under those circumstances...well, I give them credit.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 18 Apr 2007 :  16:50:06  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wholehearted agreement here, folks -- on all sides.

I think Twilight goes pretty far through this novel, exposing varying angles of her personality and the way she copes with her situation.

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ericlboyd
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When is Depths of Madness set? What are the dates over which the novel unfolds?

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The Sage
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No dates were specifically mentioned in DoM, as I recall. However, there were hints that this was a fairly "recent" novel, in terms of discussion between the characters.

I'd be curious to see whether Erik had a particular date/year plotted for DoM actually.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 30 Apr 2007 :  03:37:47  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm generally all about dating things, but Depths of Madness was purposefully note date-marked because the characters have very little way of keeping track of time (other than, as Twilight points out, knowing roughly when it's midnight) -- they don't know how long they've been down there, in the dark.

For reference, however, the novel takes place roughly throughout the month of Nightal of 1374. The webstory ("That Time of the Tenday," which takes place before DoM) is date-marked once as Uktar 1374.

There's some flex-time as to actual specific days of the month for the novel. I see the last day presented in the novel as Hammer the first, 1375--a new year, a new Twilight.

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Zanan
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Edit ... the note i wrote beforehand didn't actually suit the character. Mea culpa and never mind


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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 :  06:15:05  Show Profile  Send Lord Karsus an AOL message Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-I have a few mostly minor questions, that, if you don't mind, could use some answering. Here they go:

-What does the Elven term "Mahri" mean? (Depths of Madness, Pg. 40)
-What does the Elven term "Thareea" mean? (Depths of Madness, Pg. 66)
-What does the Elven phrase "Gys Sa Salen" mean (Depths of Madness, Pg. 272)
-What, word for word, does Nar'Talas (Locklimb Poison) mean, and could you tell us a little about this poison?

-Any answers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 :  17:53:59  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dagnirion

-I have a few mostly minor questions, that, if you don't mind, could use some answering.


So they could!

Before I go into this, note that I am *not* the expert when it comes to Realms Elvish, and certainly not Elvish in general. (I do better at Gol-kaa, actually. As far as translations go, most of the phrases found in DoM come straight from Races of Stone.) My answers should not be taken as canonical--the good folks at Wizards may have a different translation. I can only give you roughly what I intended.

Also, it should be noted that Elvish isn't strictly parallel with the Common tongue, much less English. The best answers to these questions are in describing the concept behind the words.

quote:
-What does the Elven term "Mahri" mean? (Depths of Madness, Pg. 40)


It means, loosely, "mage-fiend." It comes from mah-, which is something to do with magic, and -ri, which I interpret as something to do with fiendishness (as in feyri, which would be "fey-fiend").

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-What does the Elven term "Thareea" mean? (Depths of Madness, Pg. 66)


This is a question more appropriately directed toward Ed Greenwood, who outlined the answer to a series of questions about adventurer toiletries in one of his Questions scrolls, of (I think) 2006, or possibly late 2005. Thareea (which isn't necessarily from Elvish) are easily cleaned, reusable cloths adventurers often carry in Realmsian dungeons for cleanliness purposes.

(Am I going to be this delicate about this? Ok--what the hells? They use them as wipes.)

quote:
-What does the Elven phrase "Gys Sa Salen" mean (Depths of Madness, Pg. 272)


This would mean "I need a drink," or "give me a drink," which you'd say in that kind of hung-over, dizzy frame of mind.

quote:
-What, word for word, does Nar'Talas (Locklimb Poison) mean, and could you tell us a little about this poison?


The nar'talas is a rare type of centipede found on Evermeet (its name can be translated as: "stone-body," "frozen-soul," "statue-form," or something similar; "nar" = immovable/eternal/stone, "talas" = body/soul/self), known for its paralytic venom, which when extracted and condensed forms a powerful toxin that renders humanoids rigid as statues for a brief time.

As far as game stats, I recommend the following: injury, Fort DC 19; initial effect: paralysis for 2d6 rounds; secondary effect: paralysis for 2d6 minutes; price 250 gp.

Long term exposure to this venom (say, 10 poisonings or more) builds up a resistance in a body, giving a creature +4 on saves to resist its effects.

"Locklimb" is Twilight's own translation of the word nar'talas. It isn't flowery or poetic like the other possible translations of the word--doesn't talk about the body as a concept of a sacred thing--only the brute physical "limb." She uses it particularly because it's something of a vulgar translation; some elves who hear it crinkle up their noses a little (which never fails to amuse 'Light).

The effect is parallel to someone from Japan talking about his ancestral katana (which represents his soul) as a "big knife" in order to offend traditional Japanese.

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Zanan
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Posted - 18 Jun 2007 :  21:44:38  Show Profile  Visit Zanan's Homepage Send Zanan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello again!

Was there a special reason that the Elven lass got "Fox" instead of "Vixen" ... i.e. one that might be revealed later on in another novel? Perhaps alongside her reason why she is so at odds with Erevan?

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

quote:
-What does the Elven term "Thareea" mean? (Depths of Madness, Pg. 66)


This is a question more appropriately directed toward Ed Greenwood, who outlined the answer to a series of questions about adventurer toiletries in one of his Questions scrolls, of (I think) 2006, or possibly late 2005. Thareea (which isn't necessarily from Elvish) are easily cleaned, reusable cloths adventurers often carry in Realmsian dungeons for cleanliness purposes.

(Am I going to be this delicate about this? Ok--what the hells? They use them as wipes.)
See both of Ed's '06 replies for January 23rd and and February 8th.

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Lord Karsus
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 :  14:59:02  Show Profile  Send Lord Karsus an AOL message Send Lord Karsus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
-Why, thank you. I feel so enlightened now!

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 :  15:07:21  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Zanan

Was there a special reason that the Elven lass got "Fox" instead of "Vixen" ... i.e. one that might be revealed later on in another novel?



Good question! And one that I shan't be able to answer. Though I might hint that it has something to do with where the title came from--which wasn't Twilight's head (or that of any elf, for that matter).

(Ahem. Or I might not hint that. )

quote:
Perhaps alongside her reason why she is so at odds with Erevan?


If and when I write more about Twilight, it's a pretty good bet that I will explain at least *some* more about her relationship with Erevan and the church thereof.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 19 Jun 2007 :  15:11:03  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

See both of Ed's '06 replies for January 23rd and and February 8th.


Bet we thought I just made 'em up, eh?

Ed's Q&A thread is one of the best available resources for Realmslore.

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

See both of Ed's '06 replies for January 23rd and and February 8th.


Bet we thought I just made 'em up, eh?
Well, I knew you didn't just make up "Thareea" because I remembered Ed's replies from last year -- or rather, the Lady K remembered and she reminded me.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 20 Jun 2007 :  17:32:44  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Little known fact: I also confirmed Ed's intention as regards the co-rulers of Elversult before I wrote "The Greater Treasure" from reading his thread.

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The Red Walker
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Erik,

Just wondering what is keeping you busy these days?

I am a bit out of the loop here, we have 23 days until
"junior" arrives(our 2nd child) and it has been a
difficult pregnancy to say the least. All is well now,
but I have not had the time to spend at the Keep as I
usually do for several months.

Loved Depths. As long as you keep growing as an author the way you have been, I can't wait for your next Realms foray.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 05 Sep 2007 :  18:20:36  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Erik,

Just wondering what is keeping you busy these days?


Well met again, Walker! Good to see you.

I've been writing a non-Realms-related fantasy novel called "Whisper," which I am currently shopping around to agents/editors. Also the sequel, which is called "Faceless."

quote:
I am a bit out of the loop here, we have 23 days until
"junior" arrives(our 2nd child) and it has been a
difficult pregnancy to say the least. All is well now,
but I have not had the time to spend at the Keep as I
usually do for several months.


Congratulations!

quote:
Loved Depths. As long as you keep growing as an author the way you have been, I can't wait for your next Realms foray.



Thank you much, and neither can I, really.


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The Red Walker
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Well met indeed friend!

quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie


I've been writing a non-Realms-related fantasy novel called "Whisper," which I am currently shopping around to agents/editors. Also the sequel, which is called "Faceless."


Very cool! Keep flexing those writing muscles. Can't wait to hear that they have been picked up!

quote:

Congratulations!


Thank You! We are quite excited with the impending arrival of our "Miracle Baby"

quote:
Thank you much, and neither can I, really.


Anything cooking on the FR stovetop for you?

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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 07 Sep 2007 :  21:46:05  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Anything cooking on the FR stovetop for you?



It all depends on if/when they've got space. I'd love to write for them if/when they do, of course!

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The Red Walker
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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Anything cooking on the FR stovetop for you?



It all depends on if/when they've got space. I'd love to write for them if/when they do, of course!

Cheers



We will keep our fingers crossed that it happens soon!

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Erik Scott de Bie
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I'll just hint at it again . . . more reviews of my already-published work won't hurt that process . . .

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Blast! I'd forgotten it again. Sorry Erik.

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The Red Walker
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Look who's sneaking up on # 1000.

I suppose your gonna want a fancy new title eh?

I am sure that we Scribes can think of one that is appropos.

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Erik Scott de Bie
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quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Look who's sneaking up on # 1000.

Gasp! I hadn't realized!

On the one hand, I feel honored to be a guest so long--on the other, I wonder if I need to get a life. (j/k, all you wonderful scribes! Lots a love. )

quote:
I suppose your gonna want a fancy new title eh?
I am sure that we Scribes can think of one that is appropos.


You mean like "Garrulous FR Author"?

Perhaps "Resident Disciple of Baalzebul"?

Or "Founder and President, Fox-at-Twilight fan club"?

(although I wonder if that's one true . . .)

Cheers

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quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie

quote:
Originally posted by The Red Walker

Look who's sneaking up on # 1000.

Gasp! I hadn't realized!

On the one hand, I feel honored to be a guest so long--on the other, I wonder if I need to get a life. (j/k, all you wonderful scribes! Lots a love. )

quote:
I suppose your gonna want a fancy new title eh?
I am sure that we Scribes can think of one that is appropos.


You mean like "Garrulous FR Author"?

Perhaps "Resident Disciple of Baalzebul"?

Or "Founder and President, Fox-at-Twilight fan club"?

(although I wonder if that's one true . . .)

Cheers





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