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Lhynard
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Posted - 29 Aug 2016 :  22:15:31  Show Profile  Visit Lhynard's Homepage Send Lhynard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

Wow! Thanks so much, George.

One more question: do you know anything about Queen Anais, who ruled Tethyr as late as 1489 DR (5e)? Is she the daughter of Cyriana III?



Steven's family tree doesn't reference the 4E lore and I suspect was written well prior to the release of the 4E FRCS.

I have done some padding and further work to it and have Queen Anais as the daughter of Queen Cyriana III and her consort Errilam Linden. She is born in 1445 DR and comes to the throne in 1460 DR (Tethyr has a history of young monarchs).

Princess Zandra is the daughter of Prince Coram, brother to Queen Sybille II. She was born in 1399 DR and became Court Vizera at the age of 70 with the death of Mynda in 1469 DR.

-- George Krashos



You, sir, are amazing.
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Lhynard
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Zandra had a sister Jemra, who married into the noble line of Cormyr. Which sister was born first?
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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

Zandra had a sister Jemra, who married into the noble line of Cormyr. Which sister was born first?



You mean Zaranda. Zaranda is older, otherwise Jemra would have been queen of Tethyr in her place.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus

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Lhynard
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

Zandra had a sister Jemra, who married into the noble line of Cormyr. Which sister was born first?



You mean Zaranda. Zaranda is older, otherwise Jemra would have been queen of Tethyr in her place.

-- George Krashos



Hmm, something is not right then....

Actually, I did mean Zandra, but I had made an assumption about Jemra that may not be true.

Jemra is said in "Backdrop: Cormyr" from Dragon #365, p. 44, to be the niece of Queen Sybille II. This conflicts with what you are implying here about her being Zaranda II's sister.

I had been assuming that she was the daughter of Prince Coram, but this is nowhere stated directly. She could also have been the daughter of Princess Cyriana Rhindaun.

So we have Zaranda as the daughter of Sybille, Zandra as the daughter of Coram, and Jemra as the daughter of either Coram or Cyriana, but which one?

(I hope you don't mind all of my questions; your wonderful answers have been helping me to build this: http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Rhindaun_Dynasty/Family_tree)
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KanzenAU
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Hi Steven,

I recently finished Blackstaff Tower, which I thoroughly enjoyed by the way, so thank you. I've always been very interested in how Waterdeep functions as a city, and I had a question for you about the Watchful Order.

Within Blackstaff Tower you describe apprentices within the Watchful Order as "third years", "fourth years", and so forth, making me wonder if the Order in 1479 serves a dual function as a magic academy. I had always imagined the guild as a group of independent mages with loose agreements on sharing some knowledge, doing some policing for the city and so forth - I hadn't considered that they may be teaching magic to apprentices in a school-like fashion, rather than the traditional master-apprentice relationship.

Anything you can share with us about the Watchful Order would be appreciated, but I'm especially interested in whether or not it functions as a magic school - and if so, what sort of requirements would a student have to meet to move up to the next year level?

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George Krashos
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Posted - 10 Oct 2016 :  09:40:25  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard
Hmm, something is not right then....

Actually, I did mean Zandra, but I had made an assumption about Jemra that may not be true.

Jemra is said in "Backdrop: Cormyr" from Dragon #365, p. 44, to be the niece of Queen Sybille II. This conflicts with what you are implying here about her being Zaranda II's sister.

I had been assuming that she was the daughter of Prince Coram, but this is nowhere stated directly. She could also have been the daughter of Princess Cyriana Rhindaun.

So we have Zaranda as the daughter of Sybille, Zandra as the daughter of Coram, and Jemra as the daughter of either Coram or Cyriana, but which one?

(I hope you don't mind all of my questions; your wonderful answers have been helping me to build this: http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Rhindaun_Dynasty/Family_tree)



I wasn't aware of the reference in the Backdrop: Cormyr article (and note that I'm working off Steven Schend's Tethyr notes, not Brian Cortijo's Cormyr notes which Brian James likely had access to).

I note also that the novel "The Fanged Crown" appears to deal with the Tethyr royal family and the line of succession. I don't have that book (have just ordered a copy) but I suspect that it will put a significant monkey wrench into the Tethyr lore I have provided here and the Tethyr lineage I have will need a significant revamp. I'll get back to you in a couple of months!

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Barastir
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Mr. Schend, can you tell us something about the Mielikkar, a sacred creature of Mielikki which was killed by a (now former) ranger which lives in Conyberry, according to the boxed set The North: Guide to the Savage Frontier? If so, I'd like to know which kind of creature it was, how it looked like and, if possible, special powers / stats.

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fought for to be attained and maintained.
Lead by example.
Let your deeds speak your intentions.
Goodness radiated from the heart."

The Paladin's Virtues, excerpt from the "Quentin's Monograph"
(by Ed Greenwood)
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Shadowsoul
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Hi Steven

I am interested in all the information you have on the Nekorrak that's not printed in the books.

Cheers.

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dazzlerdal
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Hi Steven, did you by any chance come up with the elven realm of Calmaercor mentioned in Richard Baker's Shadowstone novel.

If so id love to know a bit more about it if you have anymore thoughts on it?

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Asharak
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Posted - 12 Nov 2017 :  17:12:31  Show Profile  Visit Asharak's Homepage Send Asharak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
About cloisters of Ilmater, I found two list :

The cloisters of Ilmater are noted under their full names, though everyone refers to them simply by their saint's names (i.e. "St. Alaric's, St. Cabram's, etc.). They are listed by age (first number), and each has a second number, which ranks its prestige among the clergy:
1 // 2 // Convent of St. Rhynda // Night violet (deep bluish-purple flower). // Dedicated in the Year of Bright Nights (985 DR). (Queen Rhinda? page 35 LOI-Tethyr)
2 // 7 // Missionary of St. Cabram // Sunset daisy (deep orange) // Dedicated in the Year of the Stone Rose (1017 DR)
3 // 4 // Monastery of St. Natan // Calim lily (local pale blue floating lily) Dedicated in the Year of the Keening Gale (1050 DR)
4 // 5 // Seminary of St. Ostus // Morning glory // Dedicated in the Year of Shambles (1088 DR)
5 // 1 // Convent of St. Teresa // Bloodlily (scarlet lily) // Dedicated in the Year of Azure Blood (1126 DR)
6 // 3 // Abbey of St. Alaric // Briar rose // Dedicated in the Year of the Howling Moon (1130 DR)
7 // 8 // Hospice of St. Corin // Thistle // Dedicated in the Year of the Yellow Rose (1242 DR)
8 // 10 // Cloister of St. Ramedar // Rock violet (pale, miniature ground flower) // Dedicated in the Year of the Dragon (1352 DR). detailed in PP
9 // 9 // Monastery of St. Domin // Mountain daisy (tiny, ochre-yellow ground-crawling flowers) // Dedicated in the Year of Maidens (1361 DR). Volo’s Guide to Baldur’s Gate II page 99/100
10 // 6 // Priory of St. Silvyr // Tuarlye (blue flower with green highlights indigenous only to the Forest of Tethir) // Dedicated in the Year of the Staff (1366 DR). (King Silvyr? page 31 LOI-Tethyr)

The ten cloisters of Ilmater are, in order of age:
1) Convent of St. Rhynda: [385 yrs old; est. in 985] County Vintor; nuns' house, training area for specialty priests
2) Missionary of St. Cabram: [353 yrs old; est. in 1017] County Elemetar; facility for missionaries (w/port).
3) Monastery of St. Toramir: [320 yrs old; est. in 1050] County Monteshi; school, orphanage, paladins' garrison
4) Seminary of St. Ostus: [281 yrs old; est. in 1088] County Rivershire; general education school, scriptorium
5) Convent of St. Teresa: [244 yrs old; est. in 1126] County Alonmarch; school for midwives; one of few that also teaches nonhuman medicine.
6) Abbey of St. Alaric: [240 yrs old; est. in 1130] County Morninggold; advanced/senior school and library, training area for specialty priests.
7) Hospice of St. Corin: [128 yrs old; est. in 1242] County Surkazar; hospital & garrison vs. Forest of Mir
8) Cloister of St. Ramedar: [18 yrs old; est. in 1352] County Fyraven; cloistered place of penitence & sanitarium.
9) Monastery of St. Domin: [9 yrs old; est. in 1361] County Starspur; fortified orphanage, school, shipbuilders
10) Priory of St. Silvyr: [4 yrs old; est. in 1366] County Spellshire; elf/human allied monastic school, scriptorium

The St isn't the same in third entry :

3 // 4 // Monastery of St. Natan // Calim lily (local pale blue floating lily) Dedicated in the Year of the Keening Gale (1050 DR)
3) Monastery of St. Toramir: [320 yrs old; est. in 1050] County Monteshi; school, orphanage, paladins' garrison

The two are correct or one is wrong ? or is it the same character with two different name ?

"Soyez réalistes : demandez l'impossible"

Sorry for my English... it's not my native tongue.

Edited by - Asharak on 12 Nov 2017 17:17:01
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George Krashos
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I can see from Steven's "Lands of Intrigue" notes that in the drafts the third saint was St Toramir but in the final pre-edit write-up it was changed to St Natan. I'd go with the latter. For your information, here is what was cut from the final product and would have been on p.81 of the Tethyr Booklet:

Monastery of St. Natan: The Year of the Keening Gale (1050 DR) saw the dedication and construction of this garrison and Ilmatran temple in the name of the paladin Prince Natan, the third son of King Coram who died saving his family (including the future King Coram II) and a caravan of strangers from a trio of wereboars. While this had always been a paladins' garrison and temple in honor of Natan's dying wish, the prince was sanctified within a few months' time, and this became the Garrison and Monastery of St. Natan. For more than 300 years, this has been an orphanage, school, and paladins' garrison, all under the watchful eyes of St. Natan. He is buried in one corner of the courtyard, and this site, considered holy by more than just Ilmater's faithful, was left undisturbed during the Black Days and the Interregnum. This is only one of three known royal tombs that were left totally unspoiled. The complex lies in western Monteshi 20 miles west of Darromar and south of the River Ith.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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George Krashos
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quote:
Originally posted by Shadowsoul

Hi Steven

I am interested in all the information you have on the Nekorrak that's not printed in the books.

Cheers.



What's "the Nekorrak"?

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Asharak
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France
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Posted - 26 Nov 2017 :  13:05:38  Show Profile  Visit Asharak's Homepage Send Asharak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

I can see from Steven's "Lands of Intrigue" notes that in the drafts the third saint was St Toramir but in the final pre-edit write-up it was changed to St Natan. I'd go with the latter. For your information, here is what was cut from the final product and would have been on p.81 of the Tethyr Booklet:

Monastery of St. Natan: The Year of the Keening Gale (1050 DR) saw the dedication and construction of this garrison and Ilmatran temple in the name of the paladin Prince Natan, the third son of King Coram who died saving his family (including the future King Coram II) and a caravan of strangers from a trio of wereboars. While this had always been a paladins' garrison and temple in honor of Natan's dying wish, the prince was sanctified within a few months' time, and this became the Garrison and Monastery of St. Natan. For more than 300 years, this has been an orphanage, school, and paladins' garrison, all under the watchful eyes of St. Natan. He is buried in one corner of the courtyard, and this site, considered holy by more than just Ilmater's faithful, was left undisturbed during the Black Days and the Interregnum. This is only one of three known royal tombs that were left totally unspoiled. The complex lies in western Monteshi 20 miles west of Darromar and south of the River Ith.

-- George Krashos



Thank you very much for this reply.

"Soyez réalistes : demandez l'impossible"

Sorry for my English... it's not my native tongue.
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Lhynard
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Posted - 07 Apr 2018 :  20:16:08  Show Profile  Visit Lhynard's Homepage Send Lhynard a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
I wasn't aware of the reference in the Backdrop: Cormyr article (and note that I'm working off Steven Schend's Tethyr notes, not Brian Cortijo's Cormyr notes which Brian James likely had access to).

I note also that the novel "The Fanged Crown" appears to deal with the Tethyr royal family and the line of succession. I don't have that book (have just ordered a copy) but I suspect that it will put a significant monkey wrench into the Tethyr lore I have provided here and the Tethyr lineage I have will need a significant revamp. I'll get back to you in a couple of months!

-- George Krashos


Hey, did you ever get around to reading The Fanged Crown? If not, I might pick up a copy.

I found that the 4e Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide includes more details on Anais. She was half-sister to Evonne Linden and had a grandfather named Reinhold. She seems to have had no children of her own, because her niece, Ysabel, is the heir.
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Lhynard
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I also have questions about an entirely different family, the Pesarkals. I know from p. 65 of ''Empires of the Shining Sea'' that Ralan had at least 21 sons! Do Steven's notes answer any of the following questions:

  • Ralan el Pesarkhal had two wives (EotSS, p74) named Catahra (EotSS, p101) and Oma (EotSS, p108). Who was the mother of each of his sons Fahd, Tahyr, Harun, Tamal, and Faruk?

  • Ralan's much younger brother Nasim, the "Dark Caleph", was married to a woman named Nureh. Nureh's mother was named Catahra (EotSS, p116). Does this imply that Nureh was both daughter-in-law and daughter to Ralan?

  • Fatima was Ralan's oldest daughter. Was she older or younger than Fahd and Tahyr?

  • Where do his daughters Saida and Kadila fall in the birth order?

  • Were his nephews Asraf and Kadar sons of Nasim or another unnamed brother or sister? Were they older or younger than Maham and Nasim the Younger?


You can see what I have started here:
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/User:Lhynard/Projects/Family_Tree_Project#In_Progress
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George Krashos
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Posted - 08 Apr 2018 :  02:56:49  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
I wasn't aware of the reference in the Backdrop: Cormyr article (and note that I'm working off Steven Schend's Tethyr notes, not Brian Cortijo's Cormyr notes which Brian James likely had access to).

I note also that the novel "The Fanged Crown" appears to deal with the Tethyr royal family and the line of succession. I don't have that book (have just ordered a copy) but I suspect that it will put a significant monkey wrench into the Tethyr lore I have provided here and the Tethyr lineage I have will need a significant revamp. I'll get back to you in a couple of months!

-- George Krashos


Hey, did you ever get around to reading The Fanged Crown? If not, I might pick up a copy.

I found that the 4e Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide includes more details on Anais. She was half-sister to Evonne Linden and had a grandfather named Reinhold. She seems to have had no children of her own, because her niece, Ysabel, is the heir.



Hi Lhynard

Yes, the novel did finally arrive and notwithstanding that it is not the best FR novel out there, it had enough info there to let me revamp the Tethyr post-Spellplague royal line. It's all good now. Have sent it to Steven for his comments and am awaiting a response.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus

Edited by - George Krashos on 08 Apr 2018 03:20:35
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George Krashos
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Posted - 08 Apr 2018 :  03:50:13  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

I also have questions about an entirely different family, the Pesarkals. I know from p. 65 of ''Empires of the Shining Sea'' that Ralan had at least 21 sons! Do Steven's notes answer any of the following questions:

  • Ralan el Pesarkhal had two wives (EotSS, p74) named Catahra (EotSS, p101) and Oma (EotSS, p108). Who was the mother of each of his sons Fahd, Tahyr, Harun, Tamal, and Faruk?

  • Ralan's much younger brother Nasim, the "Dark Caleph", was married to a woman named Nureh. Nureh's mother was named Catahra (EotSS, p116). Does this imply that Nureh was both daughter-in-law and daughter to Ralan?

  • Fatima was Ralan's oldest daughter. Was she older or younger than Fahd and Tahyr?

  • Where do his daughters Saida and Kadila fall in the birth order?

  • Were his nephews Asraf and Kadar sons of Nasim or another unnamed brother or sister? Were they older or younger than Maham and Nasim the Younger?


You can see what I have started here:
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/User:Lhynard/Projects/Family_Tree_Project#In_Progress



This info is superfluous to the EotSS project but indicative of Steven's skill, creativity and drive.

Ralan's children and their mothers in order are:

Fahd (Catahra)
Fatima (Catahra) [daughter - married off to the Galsah family]
Tahyr (Catahra)
Kaelis (Catahra)
{Unnamed} (Catahra)
{Unnamed} (Fadila - jhasina)
Harun (Fadila - jhasina)
{Unnamed} (Fadila - jhasina)
{Unnamed} (Symari)
{Unnamed} (Zahra - jhasina)
{Unnamed) (Symari) [daughter]
{Unnamed} (Zahra - jhasina) [daughter]
{Unnamed} (Zahra - jhasina)
Raqiil (Symari) [daughter - married off to the Khomaya family]
Jafar (Leysaya - jhasina)
Saida (Oma - jhasina) [daughter - married off to the Synabbat family]
Aden (Symari)
{Unnamed} (Symari) [daughter]
Nur (Leysaya - jhasina)
{Unnamed} (Abiriel - jhasina) [daughter]
Faruk (Symari)
Oma (Symari) [daughter]
{Unnamed} (Abiriel - jhasina)
{Unnamed} (Abiriel - jhasina) [daughter]
{Unnamed} (Symari)
{Unnamed} (Abiriel - jhasina)
{Unnamed} (Nada - jhasina) [daughter]
{Unnamed} (Nada - jhasina)
{Unnamed} (Adiva - jhasina) [daughter]
{Unnamed} (Malira - jhasina)

I note that the numbers don't quite add up but these are Ralan's living children - it is likely that there are several deceased. You also have to understand that these were fragmentary, work in progress notes. Steve had a lot of those on his projects.

As for the extended family, no details on family connections.

-- George Krashos

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Markustay
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quote:
Originally posted by Lhynard

  • Ralan's much younger brother Nasim, the "Dark Caleph", was married to a woman named Nureh. Nureh's mother was named Catahra (EotSS, p116). Does this imply that Nureh was both daughter-in-law and daughter to Ralan?


  • Its late here so if I made a mistake forgive me, but it would seem that if its the same Catahra, that it would be his Daughter and sister-in-law, which would mean Nasim married his niece (no big deal in either the Realms or in 'Ye olden times').

    "I have never in my life learned anything from any man who agreed with me" --- Dudley Field Malone


    Edited by - Markustay on 08 Apr 2018 08:50:53
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    Demzer
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Markustay

    quote:
    Originally posted by Lhynard

  • Ralan's much younger brother Nasim, the "Dark Caleph", was married to a woman named Nureh. Nureh's mother was named Catahra (EotSS, p116). Does this imply that Nureh was both daughter-in-law and daughter to Ralan?


  • Its late here so if I made a mistake forgive me, but it would seem that if its the same Catahra, that it would be his Daughter and sister-in-law, which would mean Nasim married his niece (no big deal in either the Realms or in 'Ye olden times').



    Going by the list George posted there are no Nureh or unnamed daughters of Catahra so it's probably a different Catahra.
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    quote:
    Originally posted by George Krashos
    This info is superfluous to the EotSS project but indicative of Steven's skill, creativity and drive.

    Ralan's children and their mothers in order are:

    ...

    I note that the numbers don't quite add up but these are Ralan's living children - it is likely that there are several deceased. You also have to understand that these were fragmentary, work in progress notes. Steve had a lot of those on his projects.

    As for the extended family, no details on family connections.

    -- George Krashos



    Once again, thank you so much for this! This is wonderful and better than I had hoped. It doesn't answer all of my questions, but it is a huge help. I'll post a link to the final family tree when I finish it, if you or anyone are curious how it comes out.
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Demzer

    quote:
    Originally posted by Markustay

    quote:
    Originally posted by Lhynard

  • Ralan's much younger brother Nasim, the "Dark Caleph", was married to a woman named Nureh. Nureh's mother was named Catahra (EotSS, p116). Does this imply that Nureh was both daughter-in-law and daughter to Ralan?


  • Its late here so if I made a mistake forgive me, but it would seem that if its the same Catahra, that it would be his Daughter and sister-in-law, which would mean Nasim married his niece (no big deal in either the Realms or in 'Ye olden times').



    Going by the list George posted there are no Nureh or unnamed daughters of Catahra so it's probably a different Catahra.



    Yes, very true. :)
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    quote:
    Originally posted by Markustay

    quote:
    Originally posted by Lhynard

  • Ralan's much younger brother Nasim, the "Dark Caleph", was married to a woman named Nureh. Nureh's mother was named Catahra (EotSS, p116). Does this imply that Nureh was both daughter-in-law and daughter to Ralan?


  • Its late here so if I made a mistake forgive me, but it would seem that if its the same Catahra, that it would be his Daughter and sister-in-law, which would mean Nasim married his niece (no big deal in either the Realms or in 'Ye olden times').



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