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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author

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Posted - 20 Mar 2006 :  00:47:50  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nbnmare

Well, Steven was the one who originally fleshed out the Shadow Thieves, detailing the Grandmaster of Shadows, three of the eight 2E era Shades as well as numerous Cloakmasters, Silhouettes and other lesser thieves in LoI. I'm guessing the fellow who pretty much created the group at least has his own ideas and opinions to explain all the changes and additions, even if it wasn't he who actually decided upon or implemented them :).

The sentence "The internal hierarchy of the Shadow Thieves is jealously guarded; a member knows only his immediate superior and underlings" from LoI would suggest Steven is certainly the person to ask in regards to 5), at the very least.



You were both right--I'm not the best guy to ask why changes were made in LORDS OF DARKNESS as I don't know what their design directives were and why they made changes. Rather than make up stories about changes to characters I wrote ten years ago, I chose not to comment too much. I'll give it all a look-see and if ideas pop up as they do sometimes, I'll note that.

As for that rule of knowing the immediate superior et al, it's as hard and fast a rule as you can have among the thieves. It can be manipulated and adjusted as needed for your campaign, but at the absolute least, it operates just like the Twisted Rune: The bulk of the hierarchy of agents and aliases and whatnot serve to ALWAYS protect and hide the identities of the top-most leaders.

Steven

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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author

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Posted - 20 Mar 2006 :  00:55:43  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Octa

Steven- What can you tell us about Amn pre-council of six? Specifically I am looking for a description of the Coats of Arms and some details on how the Kingdom was run, i.e. was it a straight Feudal Monarchy like Tethyr?

I'll look through lands of intrigue and the empires of the Sands and see what I find.



I'll try and wrack my brains, but I'd suggest asking Ed Greenwood about this, as most of my thinking went into Amn after the Council. Thus, FR3 would be the source in addition to LOI and EOSS for that info. Any more would best come from Ed.....unless inspiration strikes.....

Take care, and sorry for the rash of short, pithy answers....best I can do with the storm of busy-ness I've got going on these days.....

Steven

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Lemernis
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Posted - 21 Mar 2006 :  11:48:00  Show Profile  Visit Lemernis's Homepage Send Lemernis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I realize my question about regulation of magic could require a complicated answer. In particular, how the Sythillisian war has affected Amn's views on magic may be something that perhaps you'd want to consult with other developers about. But is my summary above of regulation of magic in Amn more or less how the system works, at least prior to the war?

Also: Steven, I'm working with a gaming group that would love to share ideas for development of the finer aspects of the Lands of Intrigue setting, especially the impact of the war on Amn from 1370-1373. Unfortunately much of it is DM-only material that would spoil players if I post that material on these boards. We understand it's up to DMs to extrapolate their own original ideas from a setting and further develop them creatively as they wish, in their own campaigns. But we would consider your commentary on our ideas invaluable. If you have any interest in such material please let me know (via PM or email) and we'd feel honored to send it you. :)

Happy to hear things are going so well, enjoy! :D
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Steven Schend
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Posted - 11 Apr 2006 :  23:08:45  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi folks. Pinging myself here to remind me of things I meant to answer and/or acknowledge but haven't.....

As soon as I can track down my original files for LANDS OF INTRIGUE, I should be able to find the details on these places (as George surmised, from the pre-edited version of the material).

One of these days, I'll find the time to build up my steveneschend.com website and be able to answer things there (and store the answers there as well). As time's not been exactly plentiful for me of late, don't hold your breaths.

quote:
Originally posted by Herr Doktor

Hello, Steven, I'm huntin' fer Tethyrian lore and I was told that you are the man to talk to about such. I asked about these locales on the Ask Ed thread:

- Banshivale
- Brinniq Dell
- Canaith
- Castle Dasaajk
- Caves of Memory
- Grapton
- Grapevine’s Root
- Guardian’s Garrison
- Hostim
- Keeperstone
- Marakir
- Nine Ladies
- Samyte’s Tomb
- Seven Stars
- Strohm IV's Tomb
- Tinkersdam's Cave
- Tresqyl Vineyards

And learned that some are in Volo's Guide to Baldur's Gate II, but Eric L. Boyd also chimed in with: [quote]"A few might be from the pre-edit version of Lands of Intrigue. I really liked some of the local flavor places that got cut, so I refuse to believe they are not really part of the (published) Realms. ;-)" /quote]

I was wonderin' if you could share anymore lore on any of the above locales, or any other cut Tethyr bits that you care to share! The more Tethyr the merrier. Thanks ahead.


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George Krashos
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We've now got the back cover blurb for "Blackstaff", Steven.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/frnovel/955447400

Care to drop us any more hints?

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author

USA
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Posted - 15 Apr 2006 :  15:29:36  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

We've now got the back cover blurb for "Blackstaff", Steven.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/frnovel/955447400

Care to drop us any more hints?

-- George Krashos




Sure, George.

The back cover copy accurately reflects and hints what's between the covers of the book.

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The Sage
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Posted - 15 Apr 2006 :  16:13:12  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

We've now got the back cover blurb for "Blackstaff", Steven.

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/frnovel/955447400

Care to drop us any more hints?

-- George Krashos


..."one of the Forgotten Realms settings most prolific sages"...

I love the sound of that .

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Wooly Rupert
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This part sounds promising:

quote:
and reveals secrets and lies from a thousand years of Realmslore.



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Arivia
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Posted - 15 Apr 2006 :  19:09:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

This part sounds promising:

quote:
and reveals secrets and lies from a thousand years of Realmslore.






It's Steven. What were you expecting? Fried Chicken? Dancing gnomish pleasure girls?
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 15 Apr 2006 :  19:50:49  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I hope that this is easy to answer, Steven, but what, prithee, is the "correct" (i.e. local) pronunciation of "Whamite" (as in Whamite Islands)? I can think of several pronunciations, most of them silly-sounding.




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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author

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Posted - 16 Apr 2006 :  00:48:22  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

This part sounds promising:

quote:
and reveals secrets and lies from a thousand years of Realmslore.






It's Steven. What were you expecting? Fried Chicken? Dancing gnomish pleasure girls?



Well, I know I wasn't expecting the dancing gnomish pleasure girls with fried chicken, but what a wonderful gesture, Arivia. Thank you, sweetie.

And I'm not telling if it's a thousand years' of secrets or lies. Could even be both.

What will I say? Okay--one teensy hint: As it's a thousand (or more) years involved and Khelben's only 880 the year of the book, there are mysteries afoot that predate the nameless son of House Maerdrymm. Heck, they predate the last prince of Athalantar's lifespan too, for that matter.

But I'm sayin' too much. You'll just have to wait only 12 more weeks...just like me....and I think I'm more anxious to see this book in print than nearly anyone else.

SES

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 16 Apr 2006 :  00:54:44  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

I hope that this is easy to answer, Steven, but what, prithee, is the "correct" (i.e. local) pronunciation of "Whamite" (as in Whamite Islands)? I can think of several pronunciations, most of them silly-sounding.



Well, it depends on how canon you wish to make THE GREAT KHAN GAME, a game by Tom Wham (both names pronounced the same there--first big hint). It was slapped with an FR logo right around the time of the grey box release. It's a marvelous game that I've played 100s of times and love it to death.

Still, the only place that'll mention it in canon is SEA OF FALLEN STARS, where I believe I fiddled with the name a bit before I killed everyone on the islands and made them all sea zombies in the thrall of Iakhovas.

That said, I always pronounced it WAM-ite, accent on the first syllable. If we pronounced it as Tom says his name, it'd be WOM-ite.

Now I have to ask--why do you need to know this? Just curious...

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Posted - 16 Apr 2006 :  01:22:42  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

What will I say? Okay--one teensy hint: As it's a thousand (or more) years involved and Khelben's only 880 the year of the book, there are mysteries afoot that predate the nameless son of House Maerdrymm. Heck, they predate the last prince of Athalantar's lifespan too, for that matter.
Oooh!

May we be reading a little more about the ancient Realms... Neato!

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 23 Apr 2006 :  21:52:53  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Have I mentioned in here yet how much I love my lady?

Sarah came early this weekend to take care of me while I'm down to one useful hand. And she brought me an early birthday present I'd never have guessed--the Gollancz hardcover collection of all of Robert E Howard's Conan stories! Had to go through amazon.uk as it's not a book normally available in the States....

I loves me lady, I does....

Steven
Who'll have both hands up and running in time for book signings he's hoping to set up in July and August before Gen Con....

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Wooly Rupert
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Hey, that's good to hear, O Master of the Right Hand!

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Posted - 23 Apr 2006 :  23:00:07  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage  Click to see Alaundo's MSN Messenger address Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Have I mentioned in here yet how much I love my lady?

Sarah came early this weekend to take care of me while I'm down to one useful hand. And she brought me an early birthday present I'd never have guessed--the Gollancz hardcover collection of all of Robert E Howard's Conan stories! Had to go through amazon.uk as it's not a book normally available in the States....

I loves me lady, I does....

Steven
Who'll have both hands up and running in time for book signings he's hoping to set up in July and August before Gen Con....



Well met

Interesting indeed, Steven. What with my birthday also looming, and the very same Conan hardcover on my wishlist (I assume ye have the black cover\gold text edition?), I can only hope for the same treatment

Ahem, not from THY lady, of course

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Hmmm... Hopefully I can drop enough hints to the Lady K before the celebrations begin for the anniversary of my portentous birth in two weeks .

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Asgetrion
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quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend

Have I mentioned in here yet how much I love my lady?

Sarah came early this weekend to take care of me while I'm down to one useful hand. And she brought me an early birthday present I'd never have guessed--the Gollancz hardcover collection of all of Robert E Howard's Conan stories! Had to go through amazon.uk as it's not a book normally available in the States....

I loves me lady, I does....

Steven
Who'll have both hands up and running in time for book signings he's hoping to set up in July and August before Gen Con....



Well met

Interesting indeed, Steven. What with my birthday also looming, and the very same Conan hardcover on my wishlist (I assume ye have the black cover\gold text edition?), I can only hope for the same treatment

Ahem, not from THY lady, of course



Ah, you'll certainly enjoy it, both of you (I did, a lot ;)

It's also a fantastic opportunity to read also some of his personal letters and original drafts

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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore

Canada
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 :  22:23:11  Show Profile Send Skeptic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Steven,

I just wanted to know if you finally took a look at my Calimshan questions ? My players finally never went there because the campaign is on the ice, but I would still appreciate to have your thoughts on these subjects.

I just want to add that July will be my favorite month this year

After this book on one of my favorite archmage, I want one about his dark rival Marune

Edited by - Skeptic on 30 Apr 2006 22:25:40
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Skeptic
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Hi again,

On a completly different topic, I don't know how much familiar you are with 3.x, but I would like to know how would you picture the Lion tribes in terms of classes and such things. Mainly figthers or Barbarians ?

It seems that 3e sources have completly ignored them...

Edited by - Skeptic on 11 May 2006 19:09:34
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Octa
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Posted - 12 May 2006 :  17:53:21  Show Profile  Visit Octa's Homepage Send Octa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would suggest definitely fighter with lots of Paladins and Rangers as well. These tribes even though they are nomads are certainly civilised, and cultured. I would be surprised if there were more than a handfull of barbarians amongst them.

Plus is it possible for Barbs to make Ride checks while Raging? I don't know from memory because its not one of my favorite classes.

Paladins because of the influence of Nobanion on the tribes and the fact that at least one is mainly LG.

Rangers make really good mounted combatants, with the ranged combat feats and mounted combat, as well as animal companion horses, to survive they would have to have lots of Rangers.
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Skeptic
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Yeah I could see paladins for Nobanion's follower, they are described as lawful peoples (they follow tradition, etc.)

Riding rangers, yeah why not I love the idea.

For barbarians, no problems with Ride while riding, and I would see that class mainly for the Garagos' followers.
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Steven Schend
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Posted - 14 May 2006 :  16:03:10  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage  Send Steven Schend a Yahoo! Message Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Octa

I would suggest definitely fighter with lots of Paladins and Rangers as well. These tribes even though they are nomads are certainly civilised, and cultured. I would be surprised if there were more than a handfull of barbarians amongst them.

Plus is it possible for Barbs to make Ride checks while Raging? I don't know from memory because its not one of my favorite classes.

Paladins because of the influence of Nobanion on the tribes and the fact that at least one is mainly LG.

Rangers make really good mounted combatants, with the ranged combat feats and mounted combat, as well as animal companion horses, to survive they would have to have lots of Rangers.



These sound like great ideas all, including your follow-up musings, Skeptic.

One other option would be to have a few out-of-the-ordinary undead hunter types (clerics of various faiths, a druid or three, or something new if you wish), given the incidence of undead types around the SOFS in that area, those in the Thornwood, etc. Think of them as pro-active milita types who want to keep their lands free of the undead scourge and the Red Wizards who're most wont to use them.

Steven
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Purple Dragon Knight
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quote:
Originally posted by Skeptic

Riding rangers, yeah why not I love the idea.

If you like the idea, I suggest you take the ranger version with no spells (don't remember where that was... maybe Complete Warrior or Complete Adventurer) then move on to the Shaaryan Hunter prestige class as soon as you can. With it, you can track while mounted, eventually at top horse speed I think, and you have a slew of abilities for mounted archery. Take the "Saddleback" feat at first level, take the light warhorse animal companion at 4th, and then take the "Nature's Bond" feat at 6th (which will make your horse the equivalent of an animal companion owned by a 6th-level druid; i.e. it adds '3 effective druid levels' to your companion: 3 for ranger 6/2 and 3 from the feat...)

I'd have to check the prerequisites of the class once more to make sure this is possible, but a character build with this general idea should amount to something very interesting. For dungeons: I recommend you teach him the trick "transform to monkey" and have a caster cast alter self on it or some type of polymorph (or do it yourself if "Use Magic Device" is not cross-class for rangers, by buying a want of alter self and using your share spell thingy...)

Something to that effect, anyhow.
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Skeptic
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Rangers and Paladins without spells are in CW (I and plan to use them yeah).

But for me it's a bit strange to use the Shaaryan Hunter prestige class when this class is designed for different tribes of a near region...
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