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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 03 Oct 2005 :  18:40:45  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One


(snip)
Gerath Hoan, your only question in the queue is a request from March 28th of this year, wherein you asked: “. . . So who is the Realms’ Lucifer and what happened to him?” (And khorne promptly and correctly answered you, at that time.) Feel free to add new questions, so long as you can live with Ed taking months to answer them. He is truly snowed under, despite it being only September. Sigh.
love to all,
THO
(snip)




Is there a sense among demonologists in Faerun that demons and devils are fallen "angels"? Or are they regarded as inextricably linked to the substance of their Hellish planes, as in some other campaign settings? The Tragickal Historie of Doctor Faustus would take on a whole different tenor if Mephistopholes was a native of one of the Nine Hells and not an exile there, while Paradise Lost would lose almost everything which gives it literary power if it were a account of Hellish denizens trying to conquer a Prime Material Plane (or one particular world in a Prime crystal sphere) with which they have no prior connection.

May we have a word or so, if you please, on Faerunian demonology from the man who wrote the book (or at least several articles) on Hell itself?

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 03 Oct 2005 :  18:51:30  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

Here's another for Ed:-

A couple of weeks ago I was reading a book that included in-depths accounts about the war strategies and tactics employed by Napoleon during many of his latter campaigns in central Europe. They were reports utilising his own writings on the topics and included brief details about how he might consider conflicts fought in environments his armies were not familiar with. So this got me me thinking about how some of the more powerful and unified nations in the Realms -- like Cormyr for example -- wage large-scale battles. What can you tell me about the overall use of military tactics and strategies that realms like Cormyr may have employed in the past?

Now I know we've learned tidbits here and there in the various sourcebooks, and the Army of the Alliance during the Tuigan invasion provided some serious details about how such techniques are employed in the Realms. But I'm really hoping for your take on this Ed.

Obviously, given what we know of armies and military campaigns in the Realms, we can assume the strategies of previous realm-rulers and military commanders are studied, just like in our world. In Cormyr, the war planners of the Purple Dragons likely spend months studying the tactics of enemies and allies alike... searching for vitual points that their military forces can exploit to their nation's advantage.

But what are the actual techniques used? That's what I'm looking for here. Simply put, how does a nation like Cormyr wage large-scale battles, or even wars, in the Realms?




I have a character who is a devotee of the Red Knight and have considered writing analyses of famous Toriliean battles from a tactical perspective (Metagame Lore: how real world battles were fought when the terrain or the combatants were similar to Realms battles).

If Ed and the other sages were to supply some details of some decisive battles(rather less than we have for the Battle of the Bones), I would be willing to write up a few battles as Realmslore for others outside my own campaign -- *IF* people were interested. Who knows? "Marek Ilsor's Fifteen Decisive Battles of Faerun" may one day be a classic!



(deflate gently my ego. deflate gently!)


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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 :  01:01:41  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message
Good Ed, Master of all things that go bump in the Realms . . .

Are the Phaerimm suppose to have rows of eyes running from their maw down to their tails, as they are illustrated in their first appearance in FR13 Anauroch. Current illustrations show them as plain looking funnels with arms and a mouth, but I rather liked the rows of eyes and spikes. Was this just an artistic flourish from Valerie Valusek, or did you discribe the rows of eyes originally, but it just didn't make it into the description of the monster in their MC entry?

Thanks Ed!

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Dargoth
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 :  01:22:26  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message
Ive always thought of Tempus Red Book of War as being a cross between the real world books On War by von Clausewitz's and the Art of War by Sun Tzu

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 :  04:23:33  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all.
Ed takes another brief break before finishing up his Cormyrean guilds descriptions, to deal with a few more questions about The Simbul from . . . The Simbul.
Ed speaks:


The Girdle of Rods has magical powers of its own, but they are [NDA]’d except for this one: it can cause up to four rods that have been carried within it for more than a day at a time (anytime in the past) to levitate in a ring around the girdle-wearer, and “fire” simultaneously, under the girdle-wearer’s mental command (i.e. he or she need not hold them, can aim them mentally, at a seen target or a known location, and can do other activities while using them, such as running, leaping, or even spellcasting.
The Girdle has nothing to do with The Simbul’s power of taking certain sorts of magic items ‘inside herself;’ that’s her personal power, and I plan to say more about how she got that power someday, if I get the chance (for now, consider it NDA’d). And yes, she can store many sorts of magic rods (and certain other sorts of magic items) inside her AND call on their powers, without taking harm from their discharges or altering their effects (i.e. you read the novel correctly), but I’m going to keep the precise details of what, how, and limitations secret for now. After all, it’s not as if SHE’S going to tell you (and if she shows you, it’s usually the last thing you ever see :} ).
Regarding the Spell Trigger scrolls and written spellbook inscriptions spread by Magister Lawkland: The Simbul did nothing to recover them, because she was specifically forbidden to do so by Mystra. Which is indeed why they are now, as per the 3e Realms sourcebooks you cite, “available to anyone” (er, who can find them, of course). The main task Mystra sets her Chosen is spreading magic more widely among intelligent beings of Faerûn, and working to make access to magic possible for more of them (in other words, acting against tyrant-wizards who try to restrict magic use or keep copies of spells only for themselves, denying them to others).
And yes, The Simbul learned how to wear (and use) a large number of rings at once (one per toe and thumb, and two per finger; they still won’t function if worn as earrings or piercings, though they can be “carried inert” in such a way), though not from that now-deceased Magister (again, NDA time). The Chosen are reluctant to just “let fire” with lots of magic items and spells simultaneously, by the way (although The Simbul, enraged and spell-battling Red Wizards, is perhaps the most reckless of them all in this regard), because they know (and can “feel”) the potential damage to the Weave this can cause (wild magic echoes, instability and even Shadow Weave tears or small dead-magic zones).



So saith Ed. Who knows your spellstoring gems query is still outstanding, The Simbul, and will get back to it after he’s answered a few more pending queries.
love to all,
THO
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Kuje
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 :  04:32:05  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
Speaking of queries.... :)

I believe I have some from last year still floating out there? And who knows how many from this year.....

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 :  00:07:02  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hi again, all. Ed replies to Gareth Yaztromo’s question: “are there any subcultures in Toril?” hereafter:


Yes, of course there are. Wealthy youths (we might call them “teenagers”) who because of their family prosperity have time (freedom from working to feed themselves) and coin enough to pursue fashions and interests that disgust or unsettle their parents often do so, as a form of rebellion. This happens all the time in Waterdeep, Athkatla, Suzail, the cities of Sembia, and so on. Some young nobles go through a “play at being a street beggar” or “gang member” or even worse “prostitute” phase, or join weird cults (or even CREATE weird cults, complete with “shocking” clothing, secret passwords and catch-phrases, and preoccupations with drugs, arcane sagecraft or herblore or desires to “go wild” and live with packs of wild animals in forests, adopt the bygone fashions, manners, and mores of ancestors from several centuries back, and so on. For many individuals, these are just “passing fads,” but because so many of them try it, there is always a group of people sharing such an interest in existence (thus, a “subculture”).
For instance, in both Athkatla and Waterdeep, nobles and the youth of wannabe-noble rising merchant houses play at “Farforevermore,” which is wearing the fashions popular among nobles of their cities more than a century ago, courting in the old ways, playing at keeping (and flogging) slaves as the nobles once did . . . and so on. “Forevers” adopt persona names while playacting, often maintain hidden or private garret rooms where they can change clothing from their everyday selves to their personas, and pool funds to host revels or even rent mansions where they can play at Farforevermore (though of course most of them would hotly deny that they’re “playing” at anything, insisting instead that they’re improving themselves, and ultimately their cities, by cleaving to the “better” ways of yesteryear.
This is just one subculture, out of many others (consider doppelgangers and dragons who dwell shapechanged among humans not to hide or to blend in, but to try to shift human attitudes towards accepting doppelgangers or dragons - - not just as social neighbours, but as sexual and family mates). We just haven’t dwelt much on these in print because the nature of the game sourcebooks, adventure “modules,” and novels TSR and now WotC publish just haven’t (beyond the “here’s an evil or deluded cult” facet) had the right opportunities to delve into them.



So saith Ed. Who’ll return with a quick reply to KnightErrantJR tomorrow, and then get to the last trio of guilds.
love,
THO
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The Hooded One
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 :  01:31:07  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, fellow scribes. Ed replies to KnightErrantJR about the ORIGINAL gaming group of mainly-PC adventurers to explore the Realms: the Company of Crazed Venturers. Ed speaks:


I would LOVE to feature or explore the Crazed Venturers (nearest and dearest to my heart) in a fiction trilogy. However, right now, it just doesn’t seem likely that I’ll have the chance. The Knights books are coming out one a year, from 2006 through 2008, and then the Books Department guys’n’gals and I already have more than one “hot project” (no, of course I can’t say more, for obvious reasons) agreed-upon. Sales figures tend to indicate that for all the moaning and kvetching about Elminster as Ed’s Ego-Fulfillment Perfectly Tireless Lover And All-Powerful Fix-The-World-While-Being-A-Jackass Wizard, you folks love to buy Elminster books. So I’m sure there will be pressure for me to return to Elminster . . . and the Crazed Venturers haven’t had nearly as much contact with the Old Mage as the Knights have.
However: yes, the Crazed Venturers are important, and yes, I have a very soft spot for them. I guess we’ll just have to see . . .



So saith Ed, who REALLY WILL return with the last trio of Cormyrean guilds tomorrow. (Or else.)
love,
THO
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Kuje
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 :  01:50:09  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Sales figures tend to indicate that for all the moaning and kvetching about Elminster as Ed’s Ego-Fulfillment Perfectly Tireless Lover And All-Powerful Fix-The-World-While-Being-A-Jackass Wizard, you folks love to buy Elminster books. So I’m sure there will be pressure for me to return to Elminster...

love,
THO


I love this part, especially since someone over on those other boards tried to claim that Ed doesn't know how to read sales figures and WOTC doesn't use them to base thier decisions on which NPCs to keep alive and who to kill off or to no longer write about. :)

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The Sage
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 :  02:13:17  Show Profile  Send The Sage an AOL message  Click to see The Sage's MSN Messenger address  Send The Sage a Yahoo! Message Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Sales figures tend to indicate that for all the moaning and kvetching about Elminster as Ed’s Ego-Fulfillment Perfectly Tireless Lover And All-Powerful Fix-The-World-While-Being-A-Jackass Wizard, you folks love to buy Elminster books. So I’m sure there will be pressure for me to return to Elminster...

love,
THO


I love this part, especially since someone over on those other boards tried to claim that Ed doesn't know how to read sales figures and WOTC doesn't use them to base thier decisions on which NPCs to keep alive and who to kill off or to no longer write about. :)

What?!

That's ridiculous . This particular part of Ed's reply really needs to be quoted over there then.

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Kuje
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 :  02:45:48  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Sales figures tend to indicate that for all the moaning and kvetching about Elminster as Ed’s Ego-Fulfillment Perfectly Tireless Lover And All-Powerful Fix-The-World-While-Being-A-Jackass Wizard, you folks love to buy Elminster books. So I’m sure there will be pressure for me to return to Elminster...

love,
THO


I love this part, especially since someone over on those other boards tried to claim that Ed doesn't know how to read sales figures and WOTC doesn't use them to base thier decisions on which NPCs to keep alive and who to kill off or to no longer write about. :)

What?!

That's ridiculous . This particular part of Ed's reply really needs to be quoted over there then.

'Tis a strange place... that other world .




I've quoted a similiar reply by Ed in the past, it got ignored and I was told Ed didn't know what he was talking about. :)

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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Damian Naïlo
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 :  03:47:05  Show Profile  Visit Damian Naïlo's Homepage  Send Damian Naïlo an AOL message Send Damian Naïlo a Private Message
Hello there.

First, I take the chance to thank both Ed for actually taking some of his valuable time to answer our queries. It really means a lot to know you truly care about your Realms the way you do, and it's always great to read the seemingly-neverending Realmslore that pours out of your mind for these forums. Of course, I'll not forget Ed's messenger and intermediary. Lady Hooded One: thank you. It's everything I can think of writing to you right now, but there's a lot more behind those words than eight simple letters.

Now to the questioning (yes, I have a question......I just couldn't stop at the flattery, could I? *sigh......*). I think I posted this before, but it seems it wasn't noticed. Anyway, my concern is about Silverymoon. Most of my roleplaying took (and still takes) place in or near Silverymoon when I was a player, and it's a tradition I've mantained as DM. You could say Silverymoon is my Waterdeep (at least in regard to importance). Well, my question is more precisely about the Lady's College (a very important landmark with a lot of sentimental value for me and my players). I came up with some ideas as to how things work there, but I'd like to know Ed's view on the Lady's College:

- Can ANYONE join the Lady's College? Are there any "enrollment" requirements? Are applicants tested in any way before joining the academy?
- What about teachers? How are they chosen? Who chooses them?
- How's a typical class? How many students? Is there a particular schedule?
- Are Silverymoon's rulers involved in the school's affairs? What about Alustriel?

Sorry for intruding, and sorry for the long rambling. Thanks in advance.

"Why won't you look at me!? It's always Alustriel this, Alustriel that......look at me, for Mystra's sake!"
-Ilya Silverstar, from my campaign
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khorne
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 :  15:28:34  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage  Click to see khorne's MSN Messenger address Send khorne a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

quote:
Originally posted by Kuje

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

Sales figures tend to indicate that for all the moaning and kvetching about Elminster as Ed’s Ego-Fulfillment Perfectly Tireless Lover And All-Powerful Fix-The-World-While-Being-A-Jackass Wizard, you folks love to buy Elminster books. So I’m sure there will be pressure for me to return to Elminster...

love,
THO


I love this part, especially since someone over on those other boards tried to claim that Ed doesn't know how to read sales figures and WOTC doesn't use them to base thier decisions on which NPCs to keep alive and who to kill off or to no longer write about. :)

What?!

That's ridiculous . This particular part of Ed's reply really needs to be quoted over there then.

'Tis a strange place... that other world .




I've quoted a similiar reply by Ed in the past, it got ignored and I was told Ed didn't know what he was talking about. :)

They actually said Ed didn`t know what he was talking about? And I thought that nothing in the nine pits of Baa.....ahem, The Boards That Shall Not Be Named could amaze me anymore.

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Kuje
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 :  17:36:12  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by khorne

They actually said Ed didn`t know what he was talking about? And I thought that nothing in the nine pits of Baa.....ahem, The Boards That Shall Not Be Named could amaze me anymore.



Aye,

They did and it isn't the first time. :) But enough of this, we're taking over his scroll and I just had to comment the first time because I found it amusing.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 :  18:52:33  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Kuje, I'll add just one informational bit to this topic before we let it rest. I have always found Ed to be scrupulously honest, and all writers receive royalty reports that either specify copies sold or can be deciphered to do so.
Moreover, anyone who pays the VERY steep fees can get access to the BookScan numbers that tell accurate sales and returns figures for all of North America. Through his library, Ed can occasionally glance at these. He's been a librarian (book buyer), writer, editor, publisher, and occasionally a book sponsor in publishing for over thirty years. So, yes, he DOES know how to read sales figures.
The "ridiculous" response posted above for the contention that WotC doesn't pay attention to sales figures for making publishing decisions is, I think, the best possible comment. Whatever anyone said on the WotC boards, I can attest that Hasbro DOES pay close attention to sales figures - - and expects its subsidiaries, divisions, brands, and imprints to do so, too.
And lastly, Ed and the Books Department people are friends as well as colleagues in the publishing of the Realms. Even if WotC wasn't legally obligated to keep Ed informed (and yes, like everyone human, occasional slip-ups in communications occur), they want to do so because Ed can provide lore about the Realms, suggest and co-ordinate things (his new city articles in DRAGON provide settings for Realms novel writers, for example), and so on.
love,
THO
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Kuje
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 :  19:58:40  Show Profile  Send Kuje an AOL message  Click to see Kuje's MSN Messenger address  Send Kuje a Yahoo! Message Send Kuje a Private Message
My thanks THO.

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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The Following was posted by the board member Boz at the Paizo forums, in the context of what demon lords and princes should show up in the Demonomicon articles being run in Dragon Magazine:



Argolcheir was very obscure indeed. i don't know if anyone has any additional info about him, or if Ed Greenwood even remembers him since he wrote that article nigh on 20 years ago. :)


Sounds like a challenge to me

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Kuje
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quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR


The Following was posted by the board member Boz at the Paizo forums, in the context of what demon lords and princes should show up in the Demonomicon articles being run in Dragon Magazine:



Argolcheir was very obscure indeed. i don't know if anyone has any additional info about him, or if Ed Greenwood even remembers him since he wrote that article nigh on 20 years ago. :)


Sounds like a challenge to me



Well,

I did ask Ed about this for Boz sometime in September. :) So now he's gotten 2 requests for it....

For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird

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The Hooded One
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Posted - 07 Oct 2005 :  01:06:14  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again. As promised, Ed details the last three current guilds of Cormyr:


THE TANNERS AND LEATHERERS GUILD
Guildmaster: Samvaert Holoathyn (NE male human Rog3/Exp10; a nasal-voice, stooped, slender “rat-like” man, soft-spoken and sidling, who dreams of rising to true power in Cormyr - - say, Vangerdahast’s level - - by becoming the “all-powerful right hand” of a noble usurper, or of the infant Azoun V if no other Obarskyr or senior courtier is left standing; failing that, he wants to make himself and his guild rich and behind-the-scenes influential and investors in everything, through cultivating close ties with many powerful, energetic, scheming nobles)
Headquarters: The Old House (Suzail, south-side Promenade; mansion that’s an office only, not an active tannery!)
Portfolios: tanners, leather-dyers, glovers, corvisers (boot- and shoe-makers), cobblers, harness-makers, battle leatherers (makers of leather armor and under-armor), trimmers (who sew leather “trim” to garments), weatherdarrs (makers of leather caps, hats, “deep-snows” leggings, and weather-cloaks), leatherwork repairers and alterers
Badge: brown barrel-mouth (black interior) out of which is pouring, in a widening trapezoid, a ribbon of glossy brown (leather) to fill the entire bottom edge of the white, long-vertical rectangular background
Notes: most members of this guild are hard-working, no-nonsense men and women who are far too busy to be mindful of anything more than their own (great) daily importance and worth to the realm; they make (and repair) many of the “daily essential” items, from smiths’ aprons to footware to belts to hold breeches up and weapon-scabbards attached to their warriors - - but a few of the more successful ones are being encouraged by “Guildmaster Samvaert” (as everyone invariably calls him) to cultivate close personal relationships with various dissaffected nobles (which gives the guildmembers “airs” of importance beyond their station and wealth, and also involves them doing little shady deeds for the nobles, to curry favour, and so becoming “useful agents” of said nobles); it remains to be seen how soon these practises will take to end in disaster

THE GUILD OF WEAVERS AND COOPERS
Guildmaster: Ahltoebur Maravillus (LN male human Exp14; a very smart, superbly controlled in face, voice, and reactions actor of a man who looks like a retired warrior, is actually both a cooper AND a weaver by trade, and is one of the most farsighted and shrewd-judge-of-folk people in all Cormyr; he prides himself on correctly anticipating what all of his fellow guilds, important Court and Crown personages, and prominent merchants and nobles will do, are striving for, and what’s most likely to befall their plans; he expertly maneuvers his guild to be low-profile, “always there and always dependable,” making as few enemies and as many coins as possible, useful to everyone but in no-one’s way; he sees dark times ahead for Cormyr, from the direction of Sembia, and is quietly investing in properties and businesses elsewhere in the Heartlands)
Headquarters: Wondercloak House (Suzail, south-side Promenade)
Portfolios: coopers (barrel-makers), weavers, textile-dyers, garment-cutters, embroiderers, clothiers (sellers of garments), drapers (sellers of draperies and tapestries)
Badge: a horizontal sky blue oval, and centered on it a side-on brown barrel with three black iron bands around it; protruding from both ends of the barrel (which are apparently open, though they aren’t shown) is a wavy strip of mauve cloth, flaring at both ends and with elaborate tri-flower-pattern embroidery visible on its four corners
Notes: one of the busiest and wealthiest of the guilds, “the Weavers” are seen as fussy, timorous, short-sighted scuttling men totally devoted to their work; many of them really are (and a lot of the others are over-the-top flamboyant “artistes” of fluting language and effeminate tantrums) - - which is why they tend to send the large-handed, burly, grim-eyed, worldly-wise coopers to do a lot of their hard negotiating (for instance, with shipcaptains selling coffers of snails for use in making dyes), while the brilliant Maravillus remains in the background, keeping a “retiring” reputation and hiding his intellect as much as possible; he often volunteers information to the War Wizards and is regarded by them as one of the most loyal and useful men in all Cormyr, in precisely the same way as the War Wizards themselves are: he serves the good of the realm first, and the monarch second

THE GUILD OF NATURALISTS
Guildmaster: Elmdaerle (NG male human Wiz4, sage: zoology, botany; a friendly, charismatic leader who is currently Cormyr’s foremost expert on forest life of all kinds in the realm, and looks like everybody’s idea of a kindly tall, gaunt, bearded and robed wizard of mature years but not yet aged and white-haired; Elmdaerle isn’t quite as “soft” as he looks or acts, but does want to like people and think the best of everyone he meets; he’s genuinely consumed by his hunt for knowledge, and hasn’t a malicious or an ambitious bone in his body)
Headquarters: Oldoaks Stair (upstairs in Elmdaerle’s house: Arabel, encircled by a city block, directly between the rear wings of Vondor’s Shoes & Boots [feature 127 on the Arabel map on pages 46 and 47 of the Grand Tour booklet of the 2nd Edition FR boxed set] and the various House Hiloar Warehouses [all marked 129 on the same map])
Portfolios: medicinal, edible, lubricant, dye-source, and craft-worthy uses for plant and animal matter, either as distillates or solids (and all who work with such substances and associated research and vending)
Badge: a staring white eye with a three-taloned yellow claw protruding out of it below, two brown wings (mirror-images of each other) projecting out of either side of it, and a light blue fish tail projecting out of the top of it, all on a shield-shaped purple background
Notes: more of a sages’ debating society than anything else, this guild is being watched carefully (and infiltrated) by the War Wizards, to make sure its members don’t develop handy murder weapons (poisons) that could be used against the realm (unless the War Wizards get them, and their antidotes, first), or take it into their heads to breed new hybrid monsters or “designer beasts” for wealthy nobles or any other such lunacy; thus far, its members tend to be dabblers and sages more than anything else, and to be working most actively on salves, lubricants, scents, and dyes for sale to merchants everywhere - - those who aren’t really arguers and collectors of monster trophies (and hiring adventuring bands to bring back more of same); Elhazir (CN male human Wiz15, the semi-retired, urbane and handsome dragonhunting mage and owner of Elhazir’s Exotica [a shop that’s feature 122 on the Arabel map]) and Adolphus (handsome, distinguished, aging LN male human Exp6 [calligrapher and drafter-of-laws-and-contracts], high-fees sage: astronomy and physical sciences [expert at identifying metals, base minerals, woods, and plants], likes to be contacted at The Dancing Dragon tavern, feature 112 on the Arabel map) are both members, and have aided Elmdaerle in hiring adventurers to aid guild members in mounting materials-gathering (hunting) expeditions into the Stonelands and the Hullack Forest



So saith Ed, at last completing his survey of the guilds of Cormyr for Asgetrion and us all. No rest for the Wicked old Weirdbeard, however: he’ll be back with another Realmslore reply tomorrow.
love to all,
THO
P.S. to Kuje re. my previous post: if anyone on those other boards wants to know just how it is * I * know so much about Hasbro following sales figures, tell them: I'm a Hasbro shareholder.
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Hi

I have a question about dwarven burial customs, specifically what would be deemed appropriate if a large group of dwarves (e.g. the majority of a clan) has been killed in battle, and the survivors are only a handful (5-10 survivors, hundreds killed)?

In Demihuman Deities (under Dumathoin) it is mentioned that a dead dwarf will be washed, his/her beard braided, clad in armor, and a song will be created that honors the dwarf's life and deeds. I would imagine that the surviving dwarves would prefer to do it like this for every one of their dead, but realistically I'm thinking there should be some sort of "mass burial seremony".

My own ideas (inspired by the text under Clangeddin) are that the survivors might arrange a gigantic funeral pyre accompanied by drums and a mournful dirge, but I can't recall having read anywhere that dwarves are cremated. Of course, it might be a local custom.

Just in case it is relevant: The dwarves in question are from the Iron House of Tethyamar, and were killed in one of their deep halls.

Many thanks in advance :)
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quote:
Originally posted by Arthedain

Hi

I have a question about dwarven burial customs, specifically what would be deemed appropriate if a large group of dwarves (e.g. the majority of a clan) has been killed in battle, and the survivors are only a handful (5-10 survivors, hundreds killed)?

In Demihuman Deities (under Dumathoin) it is mentioned that a dead dwarf will be washed, his/her beard braided, clad in armor, and a song will be created that honors the dwarf's life and deeds. I would imagine that the surviving dwarves would prefer to do it like this for every one of their dead, but realistically I'm thinking there should be some sort of "mass burial seremony".

My own ideas (inspired by the text under Clangeddin) are that the survivors might arrange a gigantic funeral pyre accompanied by drums and a mournful dirge, but I can't recall having read anywhere that dwarves are cremated. Of course, it might be a local custom.

Just in case it is relevant: The dwarves in question are from the Iron House of Tethyamar, and were killed in one of their deep halls.

Many thanks in advance :)



There might be more information in an old Dragon article by Steven Schend entitled "Sleep of Ages". I can't recall the issue number, but I think it's in the 200s. The paragraphs in the Dumathoin entry were a condensed version of Steven's most excellent article.

(This is not to be confused with my adventure "Sleep of Ages" in Dungeon #69.)

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quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd

There might be more information in an old Dragon article by Steven Schend entitled "Sleep of Ages". I can't recall the issue number, but I think it's in the 200s. The paragraphs in the Dumathoin entry were a condensed version of Steven's most excellent article.
It was in DRAGON #224.

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As others are checking up on the status of their 2004 questions, I'd like to ask the same for mine. Hopefully it is still "in the queue".

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Baalster, you’re very welcome, and your Whitehorn, White Peaks, and Ride tribes lore requests are duly noted, though I’m afraid the wait is going to be long for an answer (I’m thinking Christmas, knowing Ed’s workload and the queue already built up here!). However, I’ll tackle your other four questions in a post immediately following this one.


Granted you didn't say what christmas.

In the meantime, I am thoroughly enjoying reading the Realmslore coming from the contributors to this thread. My thanks to you all.

Baalster

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Hello again, fellow scribes. Hang in there, Baalster. Ed has many, many demands on his time, and a lot of factors we scribes either don’t know (or can’t make public yet) as to why this or that query gets answered or delayed . . . like someone else writing a novel that uses locations or people you or someone else asks about. However, Ed has NOT forgotten you, I promise (because he said so, in an e-mail to me about an hour ago).
Herewith, however, Ed replies to nagitive D’s question: “i was just wondering if Ed was planning on restoring sylune of the silver fall novel to full life instead of having her to use those magicaly created bodies ,and what spells does Elminster use to create said bodies.”
Ed speaks:


Elminster doesn’t use spells to create those bodies. Syluné can “ride” willing hosts (living beings), but her mental presence will swiftly “burn out” (drive to mindless insanity) most mortals, who don’t have the mental resilience of the Chosen (or other intelligent beings who’ve existed for centuries). However, she prefers to inhabit a body that’s already gone mindless due to other causes, or ‘spin her own’ by calling on the Weave. Just how she creates said bodies is still (and for now, will remain) a secret (sorry), but it’s something she can readily (though not quickly) do, in her spectral state, but that’s far more difficult for still-living, still-corporeal Chosen to accomplish. It is VERY mentally tiring for her.
I’m not planning on restoring Syluné to “full life” because that wouldn’t be in keeping with Mystra’s Chosen, Syluné’s own character, or leaving some dramatic impact to her death in the first place. If everything can be magically undone with no cost, then there’s no lasting weight of meaning to any achievement or event.



So saith Ed. Who adds a postscript to The Sage:


If Lady K joins you in chasing and whipping lovely THO, don’t worry about knowing where to begin. I’ll be right there doing the “beginning” for you. :}


Ahem. You can begin on me any time, dear, but can you finish me off?
love to all,
THO

Edited by - The Hooded One on 08 Oct 2005 01:50:21
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quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

So saith Ed. Who adds a postscript to The Sage:


If Lady K joins you in chasing and whipping lovely THO, don’t worry about knowing where to begin. I’ll be right there doing the “beginning” for you. :}
Oh hoo!

quote:
Ahem. You can begin on me any time, dear, but can you finish me off?
love to all,
THO
Hehe... 'Tis strange, but I hear that alot from the Lady K as well .



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