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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
31701 Posts

Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  00:09:23  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Oh, rest assured that trencherman that he is, Ed has already celebrated Canadian Thanksgiving and is girding himself for another round of feasting for the American one. Well, in the time he has after writing the second half of Swords of Eveningstar, planning the 2nd book in the trilogy, doing stuff on Castlemorn, writing a DRAGON article or two and reviewing other FR novels currently in the pipeline. The man walks around in his own personal 'time conduit' ...

-- George Krashos


Well, I guess that "sort-of" answers my question about the current status of CASTLEMORN.

Thanks bud .

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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
6645 Posts

Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  01:44:50  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
Actually from his 23/11 e-mail the exact term used was "Castlemorn to fix" ... hmm, whatever could that mean. I'll pass on the query to the "great man" himself.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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The Hooded One
Lady Herald of Realmslore

5056 Posts

Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  03:30:07  Show Profile  Visit The Hooded One's Homepage Send The Hooded One a Private Message
Hello again, fellow scribes. My apologies for the silence. Which may continue for some time after this message, I’m afraid (I gave the medical staff here the slip, picked a lock - - let me tell you about hospital locks, some day - - and got into an office I wasn’t supposed to reach; after I waded through all the Internet porn jpegs that I can only conclude the surgeon was doing some extensive research on , I found his browser, managed to hail my own computer, and dug out one more reply from Ed, which follows.
I’ll be back with you as soon as I can. One of the bullets is a little deep, and it’s still in there for now, while they argue about when to do more surgery . . .

Back in August, webmanus asked, on behalf of “many fellows,” about the precise day and month King Azoun IV of Cormyr died. Ed replies:


Hi. As stated in “The Long Road Home,” the last story in my (ahem) Best of Eddie collection (oh, ALL right: THE BEST OF THE REALMS Book 2: The Stories of Ed Greenwood, Wizards of the Coast, July 2005, ISBN-10 is 0-7869-3760-2, ISBN-13 is 978-0-7869-3760-8, and there’s also this product number: 620-96711000-001-EN), Azoun’s funeral, glimpsed briefly at the end of DEATH OF THE DRAGON, befell on Kythorn 11, 1371 DR.
Azoun fell in the battle of Dragonfall a tenday earlier, dying on Mirtul 11th, 1371.



So saith Ed. So there’s THAT little bit of Realmslore cleared up.
In support of that death-date, despite some obliquely-conflicting Realmslore written by others, note that Alusair is wearing brand-new armor at the funeral, and even the best of armorers, working at a mad scramble, can hardly craft a full suit of armor, even if it’s “show armor,” in much less than ten days. Note also that a grieving widow in “The Long Road Home,” speaking on Flamerule 2, 1371 DR, spoke of her husband’s death (a man who died fighting at Azoun’s side, just before Azoun himself was dealt his mortal wound) as “two months gone.” The bodies of the dead royals were magically preserved for a one-month mourning period . . . and adding all of this Realmslore up gives us Mirtul 11th. Ed and Troy did work out a timeline for DotD, albeit after writing and trimming the text, so Ed’s not plucking a date from thin air here.
love to all,
THO


Edited by - The Hooded One on 25 Nov 2005 03:31:17
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Dargoth
Great Reader

Australia
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  03:43:25  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

One of the bullets is a little deep, and it’s still in there for now, while they argue about when to do more surgery . . .




Bullets?!??!?



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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  04:26:09  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
Welcome back THO! I think I speak for everyone when I say that your missive is joyously received. But I echo my countryman, Dargoth: bullets! Let's hope that was a bit of joshing on your part.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus

Edited by - George Krashos on 25 Nov 2005 04:26:45
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Bakra
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  04:35:12  Show Profile Send Bakra a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Welcome back THO! I think I speak for everyone when I say that your missive is joyously received. But I echo my countryman, Dargoth: bullets! Let's hope that was a bit of joshing on your part.

-- George Krashos



[/quote]
I don't think she is...from what I recall she does some dangerous stuff from time to time. And Lady Hood please don't forget, Concelment is not Cover!

I hope Candlekeep continues to be the friendly forum of fellow Realms-lovers that it has always been, as we all go through this together. If you don’t want to move to the “new” Realms, that doesn’t mean there’s anything wrong with either you or the “old” Realms. Goodness knows Candlekeep, and the hearts of its scribes, are both big enough to accommodate both. If we want them to be.
(Strikes dramatic pose, raises sword to gleam in the sunset, and hopes breeches won’t fall down.)
Enough for now. The Realms lives! I have spoken! Ale and light wines half price, served by a smiling Storm Silverhand fetchingly clad in thigh-high boots and naught else! Ahem . .
So saith Ed. <snip>
love to all,
THO
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

Australia
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  04:35:37  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Actually from his 23/11 e-mail the exact term used was "Castlemorn to fix" ... hmm, whatever could that mean. I'll pass on the query to the "great man" himself.

-- George Krashos


Thanks George, I appreciate that .

quote:
Hello again, fellow scribes. My apologies for the silence.
So, I see Alaundo finally let you go. Hehe... .

Seriously though, it's good to have you back at Candlekeep THO, even if it is just for a little bit .

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Dargoth
Great Reader

Australia
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  04:36:35  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Welcome back THO! I think I speak for everyone when I say that your missive is joyously received. But I echo my countryman, Dargoth: bullets! Let's hope that was a bit of joshing on your part.

-- George Krashos




either that or the Hooded One needs to pick her holiday destinations more carefully!

Might I suggest Tahti or Fiji for your next trip

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Kajehase
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Sweden
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  06:14:40  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
Welcome back, oh Hooded One, even if it's only for a short while. Oh, and let me echo a few others - bullets! I do hope you'll show us the scars, though

And Dargoth, I seem to recall there being quite a bit of an upheaval in Fiji, not that long ago, so maybe she should try a place that's been largely untouched by violent political struggles, internal or external, for about 2 centuries now, like hmm...Sweden? *whistles innocently*

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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  06:32:03  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase
And Dargoth, I seem to recall there being quite a bit of an upheaval in Fiji, not that long ago, so maybe she should try a place that's been largely untouched by violent political struggles, internal or external, for about 2 centuries now, like hmm...Sweden? *whistles innocently*



Hey, I've heard about your handball matches - so don't start up about no violent (political) struggles! Not to mention having to deal with the hordes making beer runs from Helsingborg to Helsingoer in Denmark. Nasty, nasty stuff.

-- George Krashos

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Kajehase
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  07:05:10  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase
And Dargoth, I seem to recall there being quite a bit of an upheaval in Fiji, not that long ago, so maybe she should try a place that's been largely untouched by violent political struggles, internal or external, for about 2 centuries now, like hmm...Sweden? *whistles innocently*



Hey, I've heard about your handball matches - so don't start up about no violent (political) struggles! Not to mention having to deal with the hordes making beer runs from Helsingborg to Helsingoer in Denmark. Nasty, nasty stuff.

-- George Krashos




Bah, you're just upset because our handball-team beat Australia with 6 arms (one for each player) tied behind their back in the Sydney-olympics. And those are our hordes.

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Dargoth
Great Reader

Australia
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  07:13:36  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

Welcome back, oh Hooded One, even if it's only for a short while. Oh, and let me echo a few others - bullets! I do hope you'll show us the scars, though

And Dargoth, I seem to recall there being quite a bit of an upheaval in Fiji, not that long ago, so maybe she should try a place that's been largely untouched by violent political struggles, internal or external, for about 2 centuries now, like hmm...Sweden? *whistles innocently*



Yeah but Im pretty sure they didnt shoot the Tourists

and what do you mean no violence in Sweden! You guys are almost as bad as the Brtish when it comes to Soccer Holigans!

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MW Turnage
Acolyte

USA
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  09:21:15  Show Profile Send MW Turnage a Private Message
What Gray said about thanks to both Ed and the lovely Hooded One. Ditto what many said about 'bullets' just being a turn of phrase....

Since someone's brought up dates and fiction, I recently reread 'Elminster at the Magefair' in Realms of Valor. Roughly when was this supposed to have occurred? It doesn't sound as if Storm had travelled all that much with Elminster, nor does it sound like many of those at the Magefair knew who he was? Was this after his return from one of his lengthy off-Toril absences?

Mark
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MW Turnage
Acolyte

USA
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  09:23:27  Show Profile Send MW Turnage a Private Message
Urk. Hit 'post' with one sentence left. I've seen timelines that set 'Magefair' in 1355 or 1356 but this seems far, far too recent (and Storm far more inexperienced than I would have thought).

Mark
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore

Brazil
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Posted - 25 Nov 2005 :  11:46:48  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message
Well, let me make a choir with my fellow scribes here: it´s a great pleasure to see you again in the Keep, dear Lady.

And...

bullets?

Wow! You came here from Brazil and don´t tell me? When? Where?

Dwarf, DM, husband, and proud of this! :P

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Finglas Leaflock
Acolyte

USA
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Posted - 26 Nov 2005 :  14:52:03  Show Profile Send Finglas Leaflock a Private Message
Good to see you back, milady, and glad your lock-picking skills are still sharp. Hope your recovery goes well, we're all pulling for you here.
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Neriandal Freit
Senior Scribe

USA
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Posted - 26 Nov 2005 :  15:04:20  Show Profile  Visit Neriandal Freit's Homepage Send Neriandal Freit a Private Message
I just wanted to say, up untill recently (with Ed's post he made about being busy, THO absence, etc.), I thought THO was either him in a female way (C'mon...Elminster does it), or maybe his wife (which then I felt sorry for THO ;)) - but, it is much more fun when you learn a bit of THO finally.

So, it's nice to see your back and can do what you can now :). Now I can stalk this messageboard and read silly questions and long answers :)

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Blueblade
Senior Scribe

USA
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Posted - 28 Nov 2005 :  18:34:06  Show Profile  Visit Blueblade's Homepage Send Blueblade a Private Message
Hi, everybody. I just ran into Ed (no, not literally) in a bank in Toronto, and he asked me what Realms characters I thought had been neglected in fiction so far.
I suggested asking all of you, and he thought that was great. I'm wondering if he's thinking of having walk-on cameos of characters in the Knights trilogy, but maybe not.
So, fellow scribes: who do you want to see make an appearance in Realms novels? (Not as main characters.)
I was going to say just in Ed's novels, but it would be probably be more useful to say in a book by anybody, plus who would you really like to see Ed handle?
Perhaps when THO returns, we'll have a nice list ready for the Bearded One . . .
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Kentinal
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Posted - 28 Nov 2005 :  18:59:56  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Blueblade

Hi, everybody. I just ran into Ed (no, not literally) in a bank in Toronto, and he asked me what Realms characters I thought had been neglected in fiction so far.




Indeed an interesting question, that might be better served with its own thread. The answers an be very diverse. Even much written about characters some might consider neglected because they want to know more about them. I can think of The Nine could use more information, there are so many characters in the realms that more indeed would be nice to see to get to know better.

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khorne
Master of Realmslore

Finland
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Posted - 28 Nov 2005 :  19:40:58  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message

quote:
Originally posted by The Hooded One

One of the bullets is a little deep, and it’s still in there for now, while they argue about when to do more surgery . . .




Bullets? What happened?! I was really worried about you!!

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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 28 Nov 2005 :  20:46:44  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message
Welcome back, THO! I have been jonesing for a fix of Realmslore for weeks. Which prompts this question: in the common parlance of Waterdeep and elsewhere, just how would one say that one was "jonesing for a fix"? (I also eagerly await Ed's reply about artistic styles in Faerun.)


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Zandilar
Learned Scribe

Australia
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Posted - 29 Nov 2005 :  12:36:56  Show Profile  Visit Zandilar's Homepage Send Zandilar a Private Message
Heya,

I'm neither Ed nor the Hooded One, but I might take a shot at answering this one...

Warning: Spoilers for Elminster's Daughter follow.

quote:
Originally posted by Zanan
Now, I had the pleasure to read Elminster's Daughter recently and while dusting off my older books, I glanced into the Heroes' Lorebook and read a bit about Myrmeen Lhal, amongst others. The book gives some detailed descriptions about various of our much loved heros, but, after reading the aforementioned novel, I was somewhat surprised to discern that Myrmeen was, back then, in her mid-40s. Given the events described in the novel (dated in the early 1370s, I would assume), she would be (at least) some 5 to 10 years older nowadays. My study of human physiology - far from being that extensive - lead me to believe that it would be rather difficult for her to ... ahem .. well ... you know, the happy time she spent with Vangherdahast near the end of the novel. Could it be then - given the fact that human females tend to keep the secret about their true ages close to their chests - that those two authors of the Heroes' Lorebook erred when writing down her age?


When I asked Ed about this (earlier this year I think), he responded that Myrmeen was in her mid-40s (I think it was, might have been late), but looks younger since she's really quite striking.

I'm with you on the "she's too old to be having a child, at least not without complications", but I should remind you of a couple of facts here. Myrmeen Lhal is a Ranger who serves Tymora, so she has the blessing of Lady Luck (Myrmeen originally served Mielikki, but was "traded" by the Forest Queen to the Lady who Smiles for some reason or other that I think we don't know right now). It was Myrmeen's city of Arabel that Tymora chose to appear in during the Time of Troubles, so this could be interpreted more strongly as Her favour. So, there is that. Secondly, Vangerdahast comes from a line that is descended from elves, and while the blood of his line has thinned to the point where their vitality is not what it used to be, it would still have an effect. Likewise, Vangerdahast's body has likely been effected by years of magic use - now this could be detrimental, but it could also be advantageous.

Lastly, it is not impossible for a woman her age to become pregnant. There have been examples of women having children (healthy ones too) well into their 60s (I kid you not, do a quick search on Google)... It's just that women over 40 or so tend to have more difficulties with their pregnancies and have a higher incidence of things like Down syndrome (which I believe is the most common thing to go wrong). Also, just because Myrmeen suspects that she's pregnant (I didn't see the cleric hanging around that lodge to confirm it ), doesn't mean she is. It also doesn't mean she won't lose the child at some point along the line. Pregnancy is a very dangerous thing for a woman to go through, even when she's fit, healthy and young... It's never a guaranteed thing... However, in this case, perhaps the touch of Lady Luck might sway things in favour of the child surviving.

quote:

I noted the same thing with that lass called Cattie-brie, who was supposed to be in her late 30s close to the year of 1358 D.R.. That would send the companion of the well-known scimitar-wielder into her early 50s, now that we have 1374 D.R..



Aren't the Drizzt books set a little back in time?

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Zanan
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Posted - 30 Nov 2005 :  12:36:46  Show Profile  Visit Zanan's Homepage Send Zanan a Private Message
Vendui Zandilar!

Thanks for replying to the age conundrum (in Ed's stead). Well, I only noted the age thing by accident. Heroes' Lorebook refers to a time just after the Night Parade's incursions in Calimport, and the Battle of Keeper's Dale (re Cattie-brie). On the other hand, Azoun's death and Vhangerdahasts experiments as described as being past in Elminster's Daughter happen after 1370 D.R., as does Obould's first appearance at the gates of Mithril Hall. So in either case, 10 to 12 years between now and the time for which the ages were given.
Now, I have no problem to envisage that Myrmeen has some magic at her disposal to help her along, or divine assistance. I would doubt that in Cattie's case though. It should not translate into me blaming the authors here ... I just noted the discrepancies between sourcebook and novels.

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bearsden
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I am new to these forums so forgive me if I have posted this in the wrong spot.

I would like to know the role of male Eilistraeen worshipers in Eilistraeen rituals. Do the males participate? Are the males excluded from any? Any insight into these questions would help me out immensely.

Thanks in advance for your time and help.

bd
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The Sage
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Males do not have a specific place in Eilistraee's clergy. Ed has stated this on numerous occasions in both his 2004 and 2005 replies (and the "debate" on the WotC boards earlier this year should have been enough to put this issue to rest). Basically, Eilistraee chooses not to grant spells to male worshippers and thus there can be no male clerics for the deity. And since Ed's primarily responsible for Eilistraee's creation... I would think his word on this should be taken as fact.

She can have (and does allow) male lay worshippers into her clergies however, but that is all they will ever be. And since most divine rituals require the casting of divine spells or for the participants to have access to divine abilities, we can assume from this that the roles of any male lay worshippers in an Eilistraee ritual would be minor to non-existent.

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bearsden
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I know that males do not become priest of Eilistraee. But they do worship her. What I want to know is, do they take part in rituals like the High Hunt, the Run, and the Circle of song. If they do, what is their part? The source material talks about lay worshipers participating in some of these. It is just not clear if the male worshipers are among them.

Thanks again for the help,
bd

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Kentinal
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Perhaps take a look here: http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4516

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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High

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quote:
Originally posted by bearsden

I know that males do not become priest of Eilistraee. But they do worship her. What I want to know is, do they take part in rituals like the High Hunt, the Run, and the Circle of song. If they do, what is their part? The source material talks about lay worshipers participating in some of these. It is just not clear if the male worshipers are among them.

Thanks again for the help,
bd

As I said, there are male lay worshippers of Eilistraee among her clergy, but rituals with a god usually involve (or necessitate that clerics have) some level of divine energy. Since males cannot be clerics of Eilistraeee, I would imagine that they would have very little *actual* involvement in any Eilistraee-based rituals beyond assisting female clerics (perhaps with the preparation of the ritual) or high priestesses who are presiding over the ritual itself.

Male lay worshippers of Eilistraee in the clergy likely have secondary roles when compared to the prominent positions females have in the church as a whole.

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Rowan
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Many greetings to Lady Hooded One and all the rest of you.

I am a long-time player but first time DM, and after perusing some of the archives, I am humbly posing a request for a campaign idea as some others have done before. I will provide the needed information in the following.

I am playing 3.5 edition Forgotten Realms, and the campaign will have four to six players, each playing a 1st-level adventurer. As for classes, we will likely have a mixture of the normal base classes, and I am trying to make sure that nobody is the same class in the beginning, for the sake of variety. For an example of two PCs, there are a moon-elven fighter and a human cleric already.

I'm looking to make a campaign that is a mixture of both dungeon crawling and participating in intrigues, and my campaign is set initially within the city of Silverymoon. My players do not have any preference as far as the 'action' goes, but I would like a good mix, seeing as all are experienced roleplayers, but not necessarily experienced within the D&D line of products, though most are.

I don't plan on using any official modules/adventures, but I may if I decide I feel like it one day. I have already come up with the band's 'archenemy' if you will, a cleric of Cyric who is based in Secomber but travels the North from time to time looking for rare or expensive knick-knacks. The merchant company he runs through an underling has dealings with the Red Wizards of Thay, and he actively (but secretly) is a supporter and spy of the Zhentarim.

We have run a small dungeon crawl 'test adventure' already, and during the course of the adventure the party found a magical wand that functions as a dowser for gems and precious metals, which the evil cleric had ordered sent to him before the party intercepted it, with the (unknown by the party) intent to use it to amass enough wealth to help finance a buyout of a Secomber's weapons trade to funnel the items to the Zhents.

I am a bit lost on what to have my villain do now, or what else I should introduce or let be known, or what other intrigues to get my players into...and that is why I have written.

I understand if you are busy or unavailable, so I will keep working on it just in case.

Thanks in advance!
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Zandilar
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Heya,

quote:
Originally posted by bearsden

I know that males do not become priest of Eilistraee. But they do worship her. What I want to know is, do they take part in rituals like the High Hunt, the Run, and the Circle of song. If they do, what is their part? The source material talks about lay worshipers participating in some of these. It is just not clear if the male worshipers are among them.



I feel I must must humbly dissent from the more learned scholars who have offered their opinion.

There is no reason why Eilistraee wouldn't have many rituals that specifically include her lay worshippers - males, females, or whatever.

Some rituals, certianly, would be restricted to clergy...

However, I can point out that most real world religions have rituals that include lay people (just think of the Eucharist, the leaping of the Beltaine fire, marriage ceremonies, and a plethora of others), so it's not really a stretch to think Eilistraee, being a goddess who specifically preaches tollerance and accetance, would have rituals of inclusion for her lay worshippers. Working of magic in the ceremonies would definitely be left to the priestesses, but there's no reason why a lay person couldn't sing, dance, chant, run, laugh, and love their deity through ritualised prayer.

Zandilar
~amor vincit omnia~
~audaces fortuna iuvat~

As the spell ends, you look up into the sky to see the sun blazing overhead like noon in a desert. Then something else in the sky catches your attention. Turning your gaze, you see a tawny furred kitten bounding across the sky towards the new sun. Her eyes glint a mischevious green as she pounces on it as if it were nothing but a colossal ball of golden yarn. With quick strokes of her paws, it is batted across the sky, back and forth. Then with a wink the kitten and the sun disappear, leaving the citizens of Elversult gazing up with amazed expressions that quickly turn into chortles and mirth.

The Sunlord left Elversult the same day in humilitation, and was never heard from again.
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