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The Wanderer
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 13 Oct 2004 :  15:08:40  Show Profile  Visit The Wanderer's Homepage  Click to see The Wanderer's MSN Messenger address Send The Wanderer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by The Wanderer
Was it hard to come up with all of those acronyms, BTW?



I hope she answers you with a, "Nope, it was Standard author's procedure.





It would be most appropriate. Although it could also have been a Harrowing And ReDoutable experience.

The Wanderer
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Senbar Flay
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Posted - 19 Oct 2004 :  22:10:35  Show Profile  Visit Senbar Flay's Homepage Send Senbar Flay a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would first of all like to say that Extinction was an excellent book it somehow seemed diffrent from the others and overall interesting so thanks for writing it. However I would like to know how you feel and why you did change Halisstra's feelings toward Lloth. Anyway it was a good book and i look forward to reading Venom's Taste and viper's kiss.

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Ryss Firemaster
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Denmark
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Posted - 28 Nov 2004 :  20:43:18  Show Profile  Visit Ryss Firemaster's Homepage Send Ryss Firemaster a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello there. I too have just read Standard Delving Procedure. Funny stuff and interesting characters. So I'm sort of hoping that you'll do more stories with those two.

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Xysma
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 07 Dec 2004 :  16:59:05  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I haven't read your contribution to the War of the Spider Queen for the same reason I haven't read any of that series yet, I am sick of drow. I do however, love Venom's Taste, and can't wait for the next book. I have read nearly all of the Shadowrun novels, and the Lucifer Deck is my favorite, but I honestly had no idea you had written that when I picked up Venom's Taste. Arvin is a great character, I immediately cared about him. I never cared for psionics in-game, however I've always been fascinated by the idea. Arvin seemed very low-level in the beginning, was that intentional? Was it a concious decision to start the novels with a first-level character and follow him through three novels?

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Wood Elf Ranger
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Posted - 07 Dec 2004 :  17:10:29  Show Profile  Visit Wood Elf Ranger's Homepage  Click to see Wood Elf Ranger's MSN Messenger address  Send Wood Elf Ranger a Yahoo! Message Send Wood Elf Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Arvin is by no means a first level character Xysma. He has a lot of past and history and a lot of skills, like rope making just to mention one. To me he would have quite a few rogue levels but thats just me. He just discovered his psionic talent though and is just beginning there which is very interesting and very informative as well to see how someone who wasn't raised by psionic parents/guardian/teacher can still learn to harness their talent.

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Xysma
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Posted - 08 Dec 2004 :  14:36:54  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe not first level, but low level. He just seemed to stumble and luck his way through the beginning of the book, which is usually what low level characters do in my games. It's like, we can see his potential, we're just watching as he tries to reach it. It was a cool book, again, I love the character.

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Kentinal
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Posted - 18 Jan 2005 :  19:06:14  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi there.

From: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=books/fr/yarnocp

I found a writting of yours.

What caught my attention was this.

"The parents made their journey to the temple and asked the priestesses if they would cure their son. By the time they received an answer, the moon was almost full. As they began the long journey home again, they turned into werewolves. Unfortunately, their transformation occurred just as Eilistraee’s priestesses set out on one of the “hunts” they hold on a regular basis to clear the forest of monsters. Caught up in a religious furor, the priestesses swept down upon the werewolves and slaughtered them.

Yarno’s grandfather found their corpses a few days later. The heads had been taken and placed in one of the “trophy trees” that mark the boundaries of Eilistraee’s sacred grounds. The grandfather buried what remained."

While not sure that good were would be attacked in the first place, I do imagine such errors can occur. What concerns me more is the 2nd paragraph. This due to the fact. Source: http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ex/20020503a

"The High Hunt, celebrated at least once each season, is a nocturnal pursuit of a dangerous beast or monster, led by clerics of Eilistraee. By tradition, the hunters may use any bladed weapons and wear anything—except the clerics, who go naked, each carrying only a single sword. If the quarry is slain, the celebrants chant prayers and perform a circle dance to the deity. ... Be always kind, except in battle with evil."

2nd Ediition had a fuller write up on the Eilistraee which includes this. "When priests of the goddess must fight evil, they are to bum the bodies of the evil creatures they slay as an offering to the goddess-unless such creatures are edible and nonsentient, and there
are hungry folk near."

Thus I would have expected the bodies of the Were to have been burned.

So question is this.
Has Eilistraee stopped burning the bodies of evil killed or perhaps a continuity problem?
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Lameth
Learned Scribe

Germany
196 Posts

Posted - 18 Jan 2005 :  22:52:28  Show Profile  Visit Lameth's Homepage  Send Lameth an ICQ Message Send Lameth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ryss Firemaster

Hello there. I too have just read Standard Delving Procedure. Funny stuff and interesting characters. So I'm sort of hoping that you'll do more stories with those two.



I love the story..hmmm ok there are dwarves in the story and I like dwarves very much.
I`m very dissapointed that there isn`t a book in all the FR series that only has dwarves as charakters.
Standard Delving Procedure is a very good work. *thumps up*
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Shemmy
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492 Posts

Posted - 25 Mar 2005 :  10:31:59  Show Profile  Visit Shemmy's Homepage  Send Shemmy an AOL message  Send Shemmy an ICQ Message Send Shemmy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Vipers Kiss has vastly exceeded my expectations and it's kept me raptly entertained this past week during my office hours ;)

I have just one question about some of the content of the book though. How in the heck did you manage to get the one scene of Dmetrio and Glisena past the editor? It's a bit more... descriptive than I expected out of a WotC book, though frankly I'm not making a complaint about it. If it's a relaxation on content in general, or just a better conception of the target audience for the novels on WotCs part I'd be quite happy.

And actually, are there content guidelines for the material in the novels?

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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
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Posted - 30 Mar 2005 :  05:08:05  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met, LS,

I was just breezing through your thread and the comment you made about enjoying "fleshing out what are otherwise mere game mechanics" struck me as very near to one of my own favorite past times. And as I see it, your work with the yuan-ti is the perfect opportunity. Do you find psionics easier or harder to work with than magic? Psionics get less play in the Realms, it seems, but I would guess that some of your Dark Sun background helps out with that as well.

Also, thanks to the glowing appraisals people have given Extinction on this thread (and because WotSQ is quite captivating), I'm very much looking forward to (finally ) picking that one up.

Cheers

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Lisa Smedman
Forgotten Realms Author

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Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  08:18:28  Show Profile  Visit Lisa Smedman's Homepage Send Lisa Smedman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hello everyone,
Sorry for being out of the loop for so long. My thanks to Alaundo for reminding me to check in!
Here's some answers:

Standard Delving Procedure
This title of this story came out of a gaming group I DMed many years ago. They always used "standard operating procedure" for opening doors. "SOP!" they would shout. Then they would check for traps, listen... then kick the damn thing in. Oh, and maybe check to see if it was actually locked. :-) Very much a hack 'n' slash group.
The acronyms in this story were fun, but time consuming. Some came to me right away, others had me pacing back and forth, trying to come up with just the right letter combo. The writing technique was, in a word, Frustrating and Unusual but Necessary. :-)

Viper's Kiss
In regard to the mature subject matter, nothing wound up on the cutting room floor, somewhat to my surprise. I really wondered if the Dmetrio and Glisena sex scene would survive intact, and am glad to see that it did. It certainly made Arvin blush... and I nearly did, too.
The decision to make Arvin a "beginner" psionicist and advance him up through the levels, book by book, was indeed mine. It allowed me to explore a class from the ground up, and to give it my own unique spin.
What's often lacking, in AD&D, is a sense of "how" the magic works, over and above the rules mechanics. And how it feels. I hope I've provided that... and some starting points for DMs out there who want to incorporate a distinctive form of psionics in their campaigns.
As to whether psionics is easier to write than magic, I'd say about the same. There are always the frustrations, when working within an established rules system (as opposed to a world entirely of your own invention), of needing something to happen, narratively, but there not being that exact spell or magic item in the game to accomplish what's required. You can make some of it up, sure, but add too many "unique new magic items/spells" to the mix and you've strayed too far from the path.
I found psionics fun to describe because it's so much a part of the person and so much in their head (so to speak). In the Dark Sun novels (all of which I've read) I noticed that the psionics tended to have a virtual reality feel to them -- the manifestations were described as events in a surrealistic landscape. I took psionics in the opposite direction, deep into the gut-level feelings of the person working them (or on the receiving end of things).

Extinction
Well, you got me on the continuity thing. I missed the line about burning the bodies of evil creatures. (My only excuse is that it's in a separate section from the bit on the High Hunt, which is what I was describing.) I suppose I could try to fix this continuity flaw after the fact by saying that the werewolves were slain in full-on wolf form, were mistaken as (neutral) wolves and their (animal, non-evil) bodies left for other creatures of the forest to feed on, but that would be fibbing. :-)

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Lord Rad
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  11:06:39  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage  Click to see Lord Rad's MSN Messenger address Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Lisa

Firstly, loved Venom's Taste! Loads of flavor and very well written. I'm chomping at the bit for Vanity's Brood!!

One question I have at the moment is more regarding the back cover blurb of both released novels of the House of Serpents... In Venom's Taste, the back cover listed Dediana who wasn't even in the book, in Viper's Kiss (as you may have read somewhere else on the forum) it mentions Karell's race...which is a spoiler I just wondered if you are powerless againt the editors or whoever, with respect to what gets written for the back cover? Even so, it takes away no enjoyment from the novels themselves

Lord Rad

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Erik Scott de Bie
Forgotten Realms Author

USA
4586 Posts

Posted - 06 Apr 2005 :  18:44:00  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage  Send Erik Scott de Bie an AOL message Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Erik Scott de Bie
Also, thanks to the glowing appraisals people have given Extinction on this thread (and because WotSQ is quite captivating), I'm very much looking forward to (finally ) picking that one up.



Just to update: I have read Extinction now (took about 3 days tops). Quite enjoyable -- I liked the romance and the character development, and thought that's what the series had been lacking before. Not that any of the former books were the worse for it, but I thought your addition, LS, was well thought out and well executed.

Cheers

Erik Scott de Bie

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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 07 Apr 2005 :  02:09:25  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Lisa

I'd like to chime in and say that I too really enjoyed your short story in "Realms of the Dragons". It was one of the highlights of the anthology - and of course it dealt with dwarves (my favourite race!).

Also just finished up "Extinction", and very much enjoyed that also. Your treatment of the aboleth gave great insight into how these beasties think/operate and I like the attention given to Halisstra's outlook/worship change. The one downside was your fabulous idea for her sword (the hilt being like a flute) - having an FR interest in swords and 'new ideas' re them (there are about 90 or so I need to write up in Impiltur ), I was unhappy that I didn't think of the concept first! If I use it now, I hope that I'll have your permission - mayhap there's a tradition of such swords within the church of Eilistraee.

Once again, good stuff and I plan to grab your serpent series as soon as I next get to my gaming store.

-- George Krashos

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Prince Forge of Avalon
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 08 May 2005 :  05:20:04  Show Profile  Visit Prince Forge of Avalon's Homepage Send Prince Forge of Avalon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dear Lisa,

It's been months since I've been on the site but I just wanted to say I've read all your FR books, and they were all quite good and very enjoyable. I really liked Vipers Kiss, I blew through that in 2 days. I just wished you could write faster hehe. Anyway thanks for the stories they were great, I'm look g forwadr to the 3rd book as soon as I can get it.

PFoA
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Jemima Aslana
Acolyte

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Posted - 12 Jul 2005 :  23:48:14  Show Profile  Visit Jemima Aslana's Homepage  Send Jemima Aslana an AOL message  Click to see Jemima Aslana's MSN Messenger address  Send Jemima Aslana a Yahoo! Message Send Jemima Aslana a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I read Venom's Taste and Viper's Kiss both in one day. I love that vacation allows for reading all day hehe

So, dear Ms Smedman, some comments and questions for you:

I am absolutely thrilled about these books, because I have long wanted to know more about the monster races and their societies(if applicable) One thing is having many options for player characters in your games, another is the challenge of the GM to set up a credible BBEG - and these novels have provided me with exactly the food for thought I wished for after going through Serpent Kingdoms. So thank you for that.

As for the books themselves:

I must say I prefered Venom to Viper for the simple reason that it stayed among the Yuan-ti, at least more so than Viper did. While an important aspect of a race is how they conduct themselves amongst other races (I loved the scene with the arriving yuan-ti ambassador and the young pickpocket), I felt that Viper strayed a bit from the previous focus on the yuan-ti. I'm guessing you found it necessary.

Admittedly I have a preference for the darker stuff(I'm positive it comes from being a GM and thinking up so many villains), and I really loved the atmosphere you created in Hlondeth during Venom, I think Arvin at some point recalls it as a 'constant slithering sound' or somesuch. It made a big impression, and it somewhat disappointed me that this sense of foreboding and evil didn't follow the protagonists as much in Viper as it did in Venom. It made the 'final' encounter at the end of Viper appear much less threatening and much less dangerous than walking in Hlondeth's streets did, and though Hlondeth isn't a safe place to be if you're human, it is still safer than facing off against a demon.

I'm rather curious, though, do you prefer the way you present Arvin while he's in Hlondeth or do you prefer him in Sespech? It is two very different 'pictures' we get of him. Also, which one was more enjoyable to write for you?

Ia Ia Cthulhu Fthagn!

Edited by - Jemima Aslana on 12 Jul 2005 23:50:01
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The Twin Scimitars
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USA
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 :  21:27:30  Show Profile  Visit The Twin Scimitars's Homepage  Send The Twin Scimitars an AOL message Send The Twin Scimitars a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I really enjoyed Extinction. It had some real twists and turns, but of course it is the way of Lolth so you did a really great job. Oh yeah and why did they change the Spider Queens name from Lloth to Lolth?

Endure, in enduring we grow strong.
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Kentinal
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 :  21:34:08  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Twin Scimitars

Oh yeah and why did they change the Spider Queens name from Lloth to Lolth?



This is an old question, the Lloth version apears to be a typo (however has become canon as a local name that some cities use).

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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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The Twin Scimitars
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USA
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 :  21:56:03  Show Profile  Visit The Twin Scimitars's Homepage  Send The Twin Scimitars an AOL message Send The Twin Scimitars a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I apoligize for asking an old question for I did not know that it was an old question.

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Dewaint
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Germany
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Posted - 04 Sep 2005 :  20:55:51  Show Profile Send Dewaint a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well Met Ms. Smedman

Thank your for writing such exciting novels like Venom's Taste and Viper's Kiss. i really enjoyed them
Actually i finished to read Viper's Kiss and was again intrigued by the personal experiences of Arvin. His fears from Zelia, his approach to the psionic powers and the feelings between him and Karrell. The menace of Sybil's scheme combined with the political situation of the Vilhon Reach .... What a wonderful book !!
I am a bit sad about the fate of Karrell. She was an interesting character, i don't have expected to find so many "human feelings" in such a creature. I am glad about it. Are there any chances to see her again ?
I am wondering if the main characters of “The House of Serpents Trilogy” will be printed in a Dragon article ....
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 05 Sep 2005 :  03:02:35  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Twin Scimitars

Well I apoligize for asking an old question for I did not know that it was an old question.



Don't worry about it. You won't be the last person to ask that question. I'm glad you liked the novel.
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Lisa Smedman
Forgotten Realms Author

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Posted - 06 Sep 2005 :  02:10:44  Show Profile  Visit Lisa Smedman's Homepage Send Lisa Smedman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi everyone,
Glad to hear that you're all enjoying the House of Serpents trilogy. I was really happy to be given a chunk of the Realms to play in that hadn't been explored much. The yuan-ti proved even more interesting than I'd anticipated. In preparation for writing the trilogy, I read a LOT about snakes, and some odd details found their way into the work.
As for the settings in the trilogy, the plan from the beginning was to gradually "widen the focus" of the novels by starting in Hlondeth and pulling out from there. The editors at WOTC wanted me to explore the yuan-ti in several different settings, gradually revealing the scope of their reach and influence. In Book 3, the scene shifts once again... this time, far to the south.
Zelia, by the way, was a really fun villain to write. My original concept that she would be a throw-away villain for Book 1, not to appear again, but my writer's group (who provide invaluable help with their critiquing) urged me to keep her. And so she remained, and grew, in terms of menace and threat. Expect to see a really BIG confrontation in Book 3.
I'd love to have Zelia, Karrell, Arvin, etc. appear in a Dragon article. It would certainly be easy enough to write, since I kept careful track of their stats, capabilities, equipment, etc. I'll have to pitch that one to Dragon and see what they say.
Yes, the flute sword was something of my own creation. Glad you liked it. Go ahead and give it gaming stats, with my blessing.
On another topic, the characters in Realms of the Dragons (and other dwarven Delvers) are definately something I'd like to do a novel-length treatment of, at some point. I mentioned this to my editor, but WOTC already had other things in mind for me. Now that the final draft of "Vanity's Brood" is in the can, I'll be doing another Forgotten Realms trilogy. I can't mention, quite yet, what it's going to be about, but will be hashing out details next week with my editor and can maybe say a little bit about it after that.
Meanwhile, I have a story in the upcoming Realms of the Elves anthology (I believe that anthology is a Feb. 2006 release). "Necessary Sacrifices" focuses on the drow... but from the point of view of followers of Shevarash. Quite a neat turnaround from writing "Extinction!" I'd looking forward to hearing what you all think of it.
Cheers, Lisa
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TylerXKJ
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Posted - 06 Sep 2005 :  05:23:05  Show Profile  Visit TylerXKJ's Homepage Send TylerXKJ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is there a running gag that Arvin will obtain a weapon that magically makes frost, only to loose it against a monster? I might be crossing different books together, but in Venom's Taste, didn't Arvin use an icy sword against a gibbering mouther or some other mutant? Then in Viper's Kiss he got that icicle-like dagger? I just noticed that it happens in both books and found it funny.


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Ebonshine
Acolyte

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Posted - 07 Sep 2005 :  20:07:40  Show Profile  Visit Ebonshine's Homepage Send Ebonshine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have always been a fan of the Yuan-Ti and others of their ilk since I first read of them.

It is great to read stories about them in your trilogy Lisa.

I don't have a question I just wanted to say thanks for doing a great job and that I'm really looking forward to the final book.

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The Twin Scimitars
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 10 Sep 2005 :  03:53:46  Show Profile  Visit The Twin Scimitars's Homepage  Send The Twin Scimitars an AOL message Send The Twin Scimitars a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It sounds like a good trilogy I think I might read it.

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