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Seethyr
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Posted - 20 Oct 2020 :  03:35:50  Show Profile  Visit Seethyr's Homepage Send Seethyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Karsus

-Ka'Narlist is probably my favorite Forgotten Realms character. A true G.



LOL, except he makes Szass Tam look like a jolly fellow.

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cpthero2
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Posted - 27 Oct 2020 :  04:51:57  Show Profile  Visit cpthero2's Homepage Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great Reader sleyvas,

quote:
Just a thought regarding Anguileusis and the ritual performed by the Anguillians along with "the Deep Mother" and "the Deep Father"... its said they created a "child god" from one of their perfect offspring... we know this from Sea of Blood. Given other lore, we might even tie anguillians to the batrachi as they're a fallen civilization. Secondarily, perhaps the "death" of Anguileusis created a powerful version of "Atropal".


So, to begin with: under-the-seas area is my least knowledgeable arena for the Realms. I know very, very little about it. That being said, I just read Sea of Blood, the entry in Drizzt DoUrden's Guide to the Underdark, and your self-created deity entry [badass entry by the way!], and I have some questions if you don't mind?

I get the "Deep Mother", as I just read about it. However, looking into the "Deep Father", if I am reading the right stuff here, the Deep Father is none other than Demogorgon, a.k.a. Leemooggoogoon. Am I on the right track here, or did I get off at the wrong stop? haha

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sleyvas
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Posted - 27 Oct 2020 :  11:47:55  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cpthero2

Great Reader sleyvas,

quote:
Just a thought regarding Anguileusis and the ritual performed by the Anguillians along with "the Deep Mother" and "the Deep Father"... its said they created a "child god" from one of their perfect offspring... we know this from Sea of Blood. Given other lore, we might even tie anguillians to the batrachi as they're a fallen civilization. Secondarily, perhaps the "death" of Anguileusis created a powerful version of "Atropal".


So, to begin with: under-the-seas area is my least knowledgeable arena for the Realms. I know very, very little about it. That being said, I just read Sea of Blood, the entry in Drizzt DoUrden's Guide to the Underdark, and your self-created deity entry [badass entry by the way!], and I have some questions if you don't mind?

I get the "Deep Mother", as I just read about it. However, looking into the "Deep Father", if I am reading the right stuff here, the Deep Father is none other than Demogorgon, a.k.a. Leemooggoogoon. Am I on the right track here, or did I get off at the wrong stop? haha

Best regards,




Well, I'm skimming the history, but

The Adherents' spell blasted aside the still weak magical defenses of the evil child-god, turning Anguileusis's new flesh to
inanimate mineral. The Deep Father was likewise affected, holding the child-god in his arms; thus was born the Stone Which Abides.


So, the Deep Father was turned into stone along with the "child god" and became the "Stone Which Abides".

Where (as in page and book) do you see the name Leemoogoogoon other than "Out of the Abyss" a 5e module about the underdark? Is that name actually in Sea of Blood or Sea Devils or something? If its that he's taken on the epithet "the Deep Father" I wouldn't put much stock to it being related to the Anguillians. After all, other demons, like Demogorgon, claim to be "The Prince of the Undead" and there are other demon lords who claim to be "the Ghoul King" or somesuch. The name Leemoogoogoon, I believe, was some 5e authors creation to use with whichever underdark culture was worshipping his arrival (was it the kuo-toas?) and was just a play on words. I doubt they had any intentions to tie it to a an unnamed entity in some 2e module from 20+ years prior.

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Seethyr
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Posted - 27 Oct 2020 :  19:26:39  Show Profile  Visit Seethyr's Homepage Send Seethyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
@Sleyvas. Sent an email with some raw notes. Will post an outline of a new project here after we discuss it a bit.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 28 Oct 2020 :  00:00:37  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Seethyr

@Sleyvas. Sent an email with sine raw notes. Will post an outline of a new project here after we discuss it a bit.



Thanks for the heads up. Logging into that email account for the first time in a while


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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 28 Oct 2020 :  02:17:57  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is there a picture of this critter in Stormwrack or somewhere? I'm having trouble picturing it.

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Seethyr
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Posted - 28 Oct 2020 :  02:30:05  Show Profile  Visit Seethyr's Homepage Send Seethyr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden

Is there a picture of this critter in Stormwrack or somewhere? I'm having trouble picturing it.



Yes, there is artwork in Stormwrack and The Sea Devils before that. They claim in looks like a sahuagin in many ways but is more eel-like. To me the toothy mouth gave them more of a leech-with-legs look but that wasn’t intended.

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cpthero2
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Posted - 28 Oct 2020 :  05:55:11  Show Profile  Visit cpthero2's Homepage Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great Reader sleyvas,

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Where (as in page and book) do you see the name Leemoogoogoon other than "Out of the Abyss" a 5e module about the underdark?


Sorry for the confusion here. No, I saw the reference to "Deep Father" from your post on 13 Oct 20. When I read Sea of Blood and didn't see it, I used my Google-Fu doctorate and found it listed that way, with citations pointing towards Out of the Abyss.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 28 Oct 2020 :  14:03:51  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey going back to my regular email. I know you said you were having someone else do a drawing for you, but your idea for the city sounded like something that would be fun and relatively easy to make a real quick 3d model of and do a quick and dirty paint job of in blender and then do some artist effects in paint.net. I know its not the greatest thing in the world, but you may find it useful. If not, no biggie. I had fun doing it. If you respond, just let me know here, as I probably won't think to check that account again for a while.

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sleyvas
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Posted - 28 Oct 2020 :  14:08:20  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Seethyr

quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

Is there a picture of this critter in Stormwrack or somewhere? I'm having trouble picturing it.



Yes, there is artwork in Stormwrack and The Sea Devils before that. They claim in looks like a sahuagin in many ways but is more eel-like. To me the toothy mouth gave them more of a leech-with-legs look but that wasn’t intended.



Just to note, I like the 2e sea devils imagery better, though that was all in black and white I think. Look at that first Dalor.

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