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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
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 Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 11:17:00
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D&D Forgotten Realms Laeral Silverhand's Explorer's Kit is a book that is coming out in March and a set of accessories as well (dice ect...).
It's clear this will FINALLY be 5e's FRCG, but in the style of Eberron: Rising From the Last War.
I am so excited.discuss.
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3286 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 12:33:55
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John Daker
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 15:23:13
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/0786966998
Laeral Silverhand's Explorer's Kit now has a listing on Amazon.
It's not a book; rather, it's another "dice and miscellany" (like the one they recently put out for Descent into Avernus). The "miscellany" part could be maps, monster cards, etc.
It is, however, almost certainly thematically connected to https://www.amazon.com/Dungeons-Dragons-Release-announced-January/dp/0786966912/ the new book coming in March, which is set to be announced this Thursday. We'll know more then.
For now, to me it seems likely that the book is either a rest-of-Faerun follow-up to the Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide (meaning those two books put together would be our 5e FRCS); or else a rest-of-Toril campaign guide (perhaps some combination of Zakhara, Kara-Tur, and Maztica, presented Marco Polo-style); or (my least favorite possibility, but I think equally likely, especially since the last release was *also* a campaign setting book) a loosely themed adventure anthology in the Realms.
Note that the dice and miscellany is "Forgotten Realms" themed, which we haven't seen before in 5e (the font an placement is identical to what we've seen now for "Waterdeep," "Baldur's Gate," and "Eberron" in previous supplements). |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 15:35:28
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Those dice do not impress me. I'm not saying anything negative about them; I'm just too big a fan of Q-Workshop to be impressed by much else.
I need to know what the "miscellany" is before I commit.
I am interested to know what that other book is, though. |
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John Daker
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 17:04:31
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| Whatever the book turns out to contain, I would wager good money it will be titled "Laeral Silverhand's something something," with "Forgotten Realms" above the title. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
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Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 17:14:09
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not sure why one would think its a campaign guide. I wouldn't be surprised if its new game options for explorers (i.e. crunch) like the Xanathar's guide, etc... It might include new spells, items both mundane and magical, etc... That being said, if they chose to expand knowledge of the realms in other areas since the sundering, it would be of interest, but in my view this could be pretty much anything.
On the dice pack... $30 for a set of dice to me means there better be a lot of miscellany in that.... especially since I don't need any new dice. They look to be plastic as well, so not even something that I might be impressed with like metal dice or stone dice, etc... |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 17:42:39
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Product Dimensions: 5 x 5 x 1 inches
I would not expect much. Certainly not campaign guide. |
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keftiu
Senior Scribe
656 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 18:27:29
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| Saw an image of the Miscellany that seemed to be a map of the Sword Coast and a set of flashcards of people and places. |
4e fangirl. Here to queer up the Realms. |
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John Daker
Seeker
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 18:51:16
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Originally posted by Kentinal
With quote:
Product Dimensions: 5 x 5 x 1 inches
I would not expect much. Certainly not campaign guide.
Those are the dimensions for the "Dice and Miscellany"; it's the hardcover book that procuct will be paired with that we're speculating might be a campaign guide.
Edit: AND...now that the full details on the Dice and Miscellany have been revealed, and it turns out to be entirely confined to the Sword Coast, I'm revising my speculation: it now seems quite unlikely the book will venture outside the same territory they've already explored in other 5e books. Sigh... |
Edited by - John Daker on 06 Jan 2020 18:58:01 |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 22:02:11
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Originally posted by keftiu
Saw an image of the Miscellany that seemed to be a map of the Sword Coast and a set of flashcards of people and places.
Got a link?
A map, some meh dice, and flash cards with what I expect to be underwhelming and/or recycled art -- that does not strike me as being worth $30. If the map was good, I might go $15, but that's it. |
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John Daker
Seeker
USA
78 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 22:41:41
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Got a link?
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6646 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2020 : 23:14:41
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Another trip to Old Owlbear Well. Let's dip away!
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 07 Jan 2020 : 03:38:01
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-In my experience, Forgotten Realms-related stuff and "Miscellany" have never been a good combination.
-I'd like the concept if it was like a Volo's Guide or Aurora's kind of thing, like Laeral talking about adventuring and what you encounter and what you need and so on, but this? Eh, not exactly seeming like that. |
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Seethyr
Master of Realmslore
USA
1151 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2020 : 03:56:02
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| Some of the art that you can see in the promo is quite beautiful. I love that rendition of Neverwinter. Still not worth $30, but better. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36779 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2020 : 04:38:08
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Originally posted by Seethyr
Some of the art that you can see in the promo is quite beautiful. I love that rendition of Neverwinter. Still not worth $30, but better.
Agreed. |
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Nilus Reynard
Learned Scribe
Canada
137 Posts |
Posted - 07 Jan 2020 : 06:47:40
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| No matter what the quality or actual worth of it, you can bet that it will sell. There are enough folks out there that will buy just about anything. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1621 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2020 : 02:16:29
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Originally posted by John Daker
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Originally posted by Kentinal
With quote:
Product Dimensions: 5 x 5 x 1 inches
I would not expect much. Certainly not campaign guide.
Those are the dimensions for the "Dice and Miscellany"; it's the hardcover book that procuct will be paired with that we're speculating might be a campaign guide.
Edit: AND...now that the full details on the Dice and Miscellany have been revealed, and it turns out to be entirely confined to the Sword Coast, I'm revising my speculation: it now seems quite unlikely the book will venture outside the same territory they've already explored in other 5e books. Sigh...
The title of the dice set is Forgotten Realms: Laeral Silverhand's Explorer's Kit and the book being revealed will undoubtedly have a similar name. So the name this book is most like would be Eberron: Rising from the Last War. No other 5e book had FR in the title. So logically it will be a 5e style Campaign Setting book for FR. 5e style meaning it will also likely have Player and DM stuff beyond the usual FRCG type books.
The cards in the Dice set are "From across the realms" not from across the Swordcoast suggests more then just the Swordcoast. Yes the map is very... Limited and disappointing, but perhaps they decided to have a city of Sharn like chapter in the book dedicated to Waterdeep.
And I've heard suggestions that these two won't be the only products revealed at the announcement. Perhaps there will be a seperate Map Pack item like Eberron got when E: RftLW was released. That would explain why only a Swordcoast/Waterdeep map in released with the dice. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1621 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2020 : 02:19:10
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Those dice do not impress me. I'm not saying anything negative about them; I'm just too big a fan of Q-Workshop to be impressed by much else.
I need to know what the "miscellany" is before I commit.
I am interested to know what that other book is, though.
The announcement has been pushed back to Monday the 13th, WotC ran into somekind of snag. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6646 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2020 : 07:25:51
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I'm thinking they were trying to work out the best way to let you down easy, Gyor.
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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Stonwulfe
Seeker
Canada
81 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jan 2020 : 18:52:11
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| In my mind the only way they could make this better is if the map was fabric. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1621 Posts |
Posted - 11 Jan 2020 : 02:40:40
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Originally posted by George Krashos
I'm thinking they were trying to work out the best way to let you down easy, Gyor.
-- George Krashos
Hehehe you could be right, given that according to Greg Tito the dice are meant to be Evergreen and not tied to a campaign. Man was I pissed when I realized it wasn't going to be a FRCG style book.
But there is a new Ampersands out on Wizards Facebook page, which looks like a cog on a great wheel and so I'm going back to my predice guess that it's going to be a Planescape/Planeshift style book from the perspective of that Planeswalking Gnome Artificer from Eberron mentioned in E: RftLW. It's will be a mix of setting guide and XGTE style book.
That is my guess now. But I could be wrong. |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
3802 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2020 : 16:28:38
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| It's a 300 pages Critical Role Campaign Setting, basically: https://dnd.wizards.com/products/wildemount |
Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 13 Jan 2020 : 20:27:47
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| That's the 2nd or 3rd new campaign book? I wonder why they won't put one out for the Realms. :( |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
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Posted - 13 Jan 2020 : 20:33:16
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| Because they want to have free room to alter most things as they see fit to write their adventures. |
Mathematics is the art of giving the same name to different things. |
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Eilserus
Master of Realmslore
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2020 : 21:19:18
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| True, but they could just exclude the Sword Coast. Ah well, I can dream for a campaign guide and a dozen more Volo's guides at any rate. ;) |
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Irennan
Great Reader
Italy
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Posted - 13 Jan 2020 : 22:19:18
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| Well, as we see from ToA, they can sometimes go outside of the Sword Coast/The North, so I guess they just want to have free reign on every area. Ironically, they did make a CS for the Sword Coast... |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2020 : 23:34:35
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| I don’t get these campaign books...all that and they could be making setting material |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
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keftiu
Senior Scribe
656 Posts |
Posted - 13 Jan 2020 : 23:55:53
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Originally posted by Dalor Darden
I don’t get these campaign books...all that and they could be making setting material
I mean, this is setting material. It’s pretty rules-light: three subclasses, some magic items, and some monsters. The Ravnica book was also primarily fluff. |
4e fangirl. Here to queer up the Realms. |
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jan 2020 : 01:25:02
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| I just meant Forgotten Realms material lol |
The Old Grey Box and AD&D for me! |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1621 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jan 2020 : 02:43:36
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Originally posted by Irennan
It's a 300 pages Critical Role Campaign Setting, basically: https://dnd.wizards.com/products/wildemount
Well at least I got it right about it being a Campaign Setting book, even if the location is off.
And when it was leaked yesterday it rose to #15 on Amazon's best seller list and #1 after the official announcement, so clearly it was a good business move.
So the good news for FR fans is this did not take a setting slot for this year because Critical Role community did most of the work including half the art, and it's huge success (along with Eberron: Rising From The Last War and Guildmasters Guide to Ravnica) will encourage WotC to publish more Campaign Setting Guides,they will be hooked on the bigger profits they appear to generate compared to APs. Which means more Setting books.
Ravnica (most popular MtG setting), Exandia, and Eberron were all popular enough to be low risk settings compared to most of the rest, now that those were successful, WotC is more likely to explore risker settings (although honestly FR isn't a risky bet at all, so its likely coning out later this year or next IMHO).
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1621 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jan 2020 : 02:46:25
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Originally posted by Irennan
Well, as we see from ToA, they can sometimes go outside of the Sword Coast/The North, so I guess they just want to have free reign on every area. Ironically, they did make a CS for the Sword Coast...
And then they did ones for Waterdeep and Baldur's Gate as chapters in APs on top of that.
But I still have faith that WotC will some day smarten up, in some universe. |
Edited by - Gyor on 14 Jan 2020 02:49:18 |
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