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Icelander
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Posted - 03 Oct 2019 :  20:30:28  Show Profile  Visit Icelander's Homepage Send Icelander a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Are the dwarven words for copper, iron and other useful metals recorded anywhere?

Dwarves Deep has words for gold and some fantastic metals, but I didn't find the more common, everyday ones.

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Wrigley
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Posted - 03 Oct 2019 :  22:11:53  Show Profile  Visit Wrigley's Homepage Send Wrigley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ed Greenwood posted on line some additional words of dwarven in a post over in the Candlekeep forums. The text of his post is as follows:

"The dwarven language section of FR11 was kept short, because even back then there was an attitude of “Runes are okay for dungeon inscriptions, but THIS is fluff! Keep it short, and give us more new monsters and magic instead!” You’ve no doubt noticed that I tended to stick to “adventuring-situation” words. However, I quite agree that a LOT is missing.
Quite honestly, I don’t have the time to work up a proper “tongue” right now, and probably won’t for a long time to come, but I can certainly expand the working Dwarvish vocabulary by listing some of the ‘missing words’ you mention, as follows:


adamantine: ohloro (usually shortened to “hloro” in everyday speech)
adamantite: oro
armor (plate or piece): harth
chain (linked end to end in rope-like form, not armor): burr
chainmail shirt: hauburr
cold: thorord (“THOR-ord”)
dragon: aug
giant (the creatures): raullen (“RAWL-un”) (literally “tall-walker”) (plural: raraullen)
gleam (reflected light, also a reflected image): spaerend (“SPAYUR-end”)
goblin: usarr (plural: sarr)
hammer: dorth
helm: tholdokh (“thole-DOCK”)
hoard (usually of a dragon, but can be any monster-guarded treasure): augdauh (“og-DAW”)
hobgoblin: usark (plural: sark)
journey (‘walk’): ullen (“ULL-en”)
kobold: ubol (plural: boldrin)
leathers (underlayer for armor, or forge-aprons and other protection): surk (plural: surrthen)
light (true, steady light, such as sunlight, moonlight, and phosphorescence): hara
light hammer (the weapon): hardorth (“HAR-dorth”)
light hammer (a finework tool, smaller than a hardorth): trast
mithral: himral (“HIMM-rall”)
pick (the tool or weapon, not the act of selection): isson (“ISS-awn”) (literally “pierce-stone”)
pierce: iss
priest: thaebrast (“THAY-brast”) (plural: thaebrar)
shield (the item): harbarak (“HAR-bay-ur-ak”) (often shortened to “barak” in daily use)
silver: thordspaer (literally “cold-gleam”)
stone: onn (“AW-nnn”)
tall (high): rau (“RAWW”)
war: aragh (“AR-ag”)
war hammer: aragh dorth
winter: arauthorord (“ar-AW-thor-ord”) (literally “great-cold”)

There are some words in different dwarven than Dethek in Races of Stone (p.25) and Dragon 278 (p.45)
Beside that you can use giant words (Giantcraft p.28)
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Icelander
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Posted - 31 Oct 2019 :  09:02:18  Show Profile  Visit Icelander's Homepage Send Icelander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks, I've looked through these and George Krashos's dwarven lexicon.

I can't actually find dwarven words for bronze, copper or iron in any of these sources. Which is a weird omission, but given how many words a true language requires, any published lexicon will inevitably be very incomplete.

Do any scribes know of other sources for dwarven words in the Realms?

Has Ed provided any others more recently?

Or Sage Krashos?

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George Krashos
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Posted - 31 Oct 2019 :  10:59:34  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Icelander

Thanks, I've looked through these and George Krashos's dwarven lexicon.

I can't actually find dwarven words for bronze, copper or iron in any of these sources. Which is a weird omission, but given how many words a true language requires, any published lexicon will inevitably be very incomplete.

Do any scribes know of other sources for dwarven words in the Realms?

Has Ed provided any others more recently?

Or Sage Krashos?



Ed provided the following to me:

hadand: bronze
hath: copper
rar: iron

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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Icelander
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Posted - 31 Oct 2019 :  11:35:41  Show Profile  Visit Icelander's Homepage Send Icelander a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos

Ed provided the following to me:

hadand: bronze
hath: copper
rar: iron

-- George Krashos


Great!

Thanks a bunch.

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