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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 17 Apr 2019 :  16:58:19  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
So my wife and I were watching the tv show "The Goldbergs" (which I recommend to everyone!) and an episode called "Dungeons & Dragons Anyone?" came on (for sure at least watch that one!).

It got me to thinking though: how often might Elminster have visited Earth PRIOR to visiting Ed???

Was he at Woodstock? Did he see the World Wars? The Hundred Years War? How far back does his visitation go...

And if it was way back, did he use his visits to inspire people down certain paths.

The reason I'm being silly with this is that I'm thinking of having the party go through a "reverse portal" to Earth for an adventure where they have to recover something lost through the portal.

Would this be a good point for Elminster to encounter the group for the first time as sort of a "Lets get you all home so you don't mess up Earth!" or what have you.

Does the party go to a local library to recover a tome only to discover Ed Greenwood talking to Elminster...or even later and El is in disguise handing out rulebooks for D&D?

Not sure where to go with this one...but the question remains:

How long has Elminster been visiting Earth before Ed Greenwood was alive?

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Dalor Darden
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Posted - 17 Apr 2019 :  17:19:02  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I found Yellowstone at about 1894...

Still looking for earlier.

EDIT:

changed to correct year...thanks Wooly

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According to Realmspace, he has a portal keyed to Yellowstone National Park, in 1894.

On a related note, I recently asked Ed if anyone from the Realms had gone to Earth and stayed there -- after all, we know of multiple wizards that have gone to Ed's place, or to TSR headquarters. I also asked if any dragons had journeyed to Earth.

Ed's response was that there was a big NDA in place, there.

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Posted - 17 Apr 2019 :  17:22:45  Show Profile Send Dalor Darden a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

According to Realmspace, he has a portal keyed to Yellowstone National Park, in 1894.

On a related note, I recently asked Ed if anyone from the Realms had gone to Earth and stayed there -- after all, we know of multiple wizards that have gone to Ed's place, or to TSR headquarters. I also asked if any dragons had journeyed to Earth.

Ed's response was that there was a big NDA in place, there.



Sounds like a big fat yes.

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sleyvas
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Was El SECRETLY also visiting George Lucas and showed him a brilliant energy vorpal weapon? Were "star destroyers" actually just spelljammers, and travelling at light speed simply passing through a crystal sphere?

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quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

According to Realmspace, he has a portal keyed to Yellowstone National Park, in 1894.

On a related note, I recently asked Ed if anyone from the Realms had gone to Earth and stayed there -- after all, we know of multiple wizards that have gone to Ed's place, or to TSR headquarters. I also asked if any dragons had journeyed to Earth.

Ed's response was that there was a big NDA in place, there.



Sounds like a big fat yes.



I'm guessing Will Wheaton. He seems like a Red Wizard of Thay.

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quote:
Originally posted by ericlboyd


quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

According to Realmspace, he has a portal keyed to Yellowstone National Park, in 1894.

On a related note, I recently asked Ed if anyone from the Realms had gone to Earth and stayed there -- after all, we know of multiple wizards that have gone to Ed's place, or to TSR headquarters. I also asked if any dragons had journeyed to Earth.

Ed's response was that there was a big NDA in place, there.



Sounds like a big fat yes.



I'm guessing Will Wheaton. He seems like a Red Wizard of Thay.



Nah, not enough tattoos.... unless he's using a hat of disguise.... hmmm....

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The Arcanamach
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Well crap, I HATE NDAs lol. Now I'm reeeaaallly interested to know who is hiding out on Earth.

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Posted - 19 Apr 2019 :  03:24:52  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Arcanamach

Well crap, I HATE NDAs lol. Now I'm reeeaaallly interested to know who is hiding out on Earth.



It's Bill Gates. He's secretly a Red Wizard. It was, in fact, his idea for the Thayan mercantile enclaves. The early ones were partially funded by sales of Windows 98.

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The Arcanamach
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Honestly, I'm thinking it would be agents of certain power groups but I now have this nagging suspicion in my head that, among groups such as the Harpers and the Zhentarim, one of the most likely candidates would be the Twisted Rune...and that's scary.

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Posted - 20 Apr 2019 :  16:55:58  Show Profile Send moonbeast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

So my wife and I were watching the tv show "The Goldbergs" (which I recommend to everyone!) and an episode called "Dungeons & Dragons Anyone?" came on (for sure at least watch that one!).

It got me to thinking though: how often might Elminster have visited Earth PRIOR to visiting Ed???

Was he at Woodstock? Did he see the World Wars? The Hundred Years War? How far back does his visitation go...

And if it was way back, did he use his visits to inspire people down certain paths.



I sure hope Elminster was always mindful of the "Prime Directive" hehehe.

P.S. D&D's canonical Baba Yaga is also a time traveller. But she was apparently a meddler in Earth history. In the old Dragon Magazine article adventure devoted to her, Baba's Hut is spacious inside (like a dimensional pocket with vast amount of space), and she has a museum that contains a Soviet tank, among other "trophies" she collected from the past.



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moonbeast
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Posted - 20 Apr 2019 :  16:57:47  Show Profile Send moonbeast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by sleyvas

Was El SECRETLY also visiting George Lucas and showed him a brilliant energy vorpal weapon? Were "star destroyers" actually just spelljammers, and travelling at light speed simply passing through a crystal sphere?



I posit that Jar Jar Binks only existed because of El's meddling in 1980s Earth history.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 20 Apr 2019 :  17:05:41  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moonbeast

quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

So my wife and I were watching the tv show "The Goldbergs" (which I recommend to everyone!) and an episode called "Dungeons & Dragons Anyone?" came on (for sure at least watch that one!).

It got me to thinking though: how often might Elminster have visited Earth PRIOR to visiting Ed???

Was he at Woodstock? Did he see the World Wars? The Hundred Years War? How far back does his visitation go...

And if it was way back, did he use his visits to inspire people down certain paths.



I sure hope Elminster was always mindful of the "Prime Directive" hehehe.

P.S. D&D's canonical Baba Yaga is also a time traveller. But she was apparently a meddler in Earth history. In the old Dragon Magazine article adventure devoted to her, Baba's Hut is spacious inside (like a dimensional pocket with vast amount of space), and she has a museum that contains a Soviet tank, among other "trophies" she collected from the past.







Baba Yaga has shown up in a lot of RPG settings. She's a fourth-generation Nosferatu in the old Vampire: The Masquerade game; there are some scary D&D versions of her (depending on edition); in Pathfinder, she conquered one of the northern nations in a matter of days *and* is the mother of the historical Rasputin; and the Iron Kingdoms even has a version of her -- though they just call her the Old Witch and make her a powerful warcaster.

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Rymac
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Posted - 21 Apr 2019 :  03:13:05  Show Profile  Visit Rymac's Homepage Send Rymac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

According to Realmspace, he has a portal keyed to Yellowstone National Park, in 1894.

On a related note, I recently asked Ed if anyone from the Realms had gone to Earth and stayed there -- after all, we know of multiple wizards that have gone to Ed's place, or to TSR headquarters. I also asked if any dragons had journeyed to Earth.

Ed's response was that there was a big NDA in place, there.



My 1st thought was, so Manshoon hid a clone here as well. And Azoun IV may have visited Earth in his ne'er do well youth.

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The Arcanamach
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Posted - 21 Apr 2019 :  13:43:54  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Posted by Rymac:

quote:
My 1st thought was, so Manshoon hid a clone here as well. And Azoun IV may have visited Earth in his ne'er do well youth.


Now THIS I like. The idea that Azoun had a love-child on Earth brings up all sorts of cool possibilities. I wonder if he was at Woodstock?

Manshoon stashing a clone here raises the question as to why he didn't port over any tech to the Realms. Imagine the Zhentarim with modern firearms at their disposal.

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Any spellcaster could casually declare himself absolute god-king of Earth. There's exactly diddly-squat that anyone could do against high level wizards.

Basically, this is a can of worms that nobody needs to open. Manshoon could declare himself God-Emperor and barring PIS, there is nothing anyone could do to stop the teleporting, mind-reading psycho who could be anywhere on the planet, listening in on your private conversations while chilling and enjoying a pina colada while disguised as the President of the United States.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 Apr 2019 :  15:02:04  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LordofBones

Any spellcaster could casually declare himself absolute god-king of Earth. There's exactly diddly-squat that anyone could do against high level wizards.

Basically, this is a can of worms that nobody needs to open. Manshoon could declare himself God-Emperor and barring PIS, there is nothing anyone could do to stop the teleporting, mind-reading psycho who could be anywhere on the planet, listening in on your private conversations while chilling and enjoying a pina colada while disguised as the President of the United States.



Ah, but who's to say that there aren't people here to prevent exactly that sort of thing from happening?

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Posted - 21 Apr 2019 :  16:01:59  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moonbeast

quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden

So my wife and I were watching the tv show "The Goldbergs" (which I recommend to everyone!) and an episode called "Dungeons & Dragons Anyone?" came on (for sure at least watch that one!).

It got me to thinking though: how often might Elminster have visited Earth PRIOR to visiting Ed???

Was he at Woodstock? Did he see the World Wars? The Hundred Years War? How far back does his visitation go...

And if it was way back, did he use his visits to inspire people down certain paths.



I sure hope Elminster was always mindful of the "Prime Directive" hehehe.

P.S. D&D's canonical Baba Yaga is also a time traveller. But she was apparently a meddler in Earth history. In the old Dragon Magazine article adventure devoted to her, Baba's Hut is spacious inside (like a dimensional pocket with vast amount of space), and she has a museum that contains a Soviet tank, among other "trophies" she collected from the past.



So... Baba Yaga is a time traveler... who uses a transportive device that's larger on the inside than the outside.... could it be that one of the reincarnations of Doctor Wh... no don't even think it …..

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Posted - 21 Apr 2019 :  16:06:10  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by LordofBones

Any spellcaster could casually declare himself absolute god-king of Earth. There's exactly diddly-squat that anyone could do against high level wizards.

Basically, this is a can of worms that nobody needs to open. Manshoon could declare himself God-Emperor and barring PIS, there is nothing anyone could do to stop the teleporting, mind-reading psycho who could be anywhere on the planet, listening in on your private conversations while chilling and enjoying a pina colada while disguised as the President of the United States.



Ah, but who's to say that there aren't people here to prevent exactly that sort of thing from happening?



Yeah, are you saying I'm lazy and not doing my jo.... I mean, um, yes, yes, you're right, that's very scary. I mean he could be the president... or the pope... I mean he's probably Vladimir Putin himself.

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quote:
Originally posted by LordofBones

Any spellcaster could casually declare himself absolute god-king of Earth. There's exactly diddly-squat that anyone could do against high level wizards.

Basically, this is a can of worms that nobody needs to open. Manshoon could declare himself God-Emperor and barring PIS, there is nothing anyone could do to stop the teleporting, mind-reading psycho who could be anywhere on the planet, listening in on your private conversations while chilling and enjoying a pina colada while disguised as the President of the United States.


But Doctor Who would stop him dead in his tracks.
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-I remember I brought this up years ago at the WotC boards in relation to the coming 4e time jump and the weirdness it would cause regarding the portals/connections to Earth and someone reported me and tried to get me banned for threatening Ed Greenwood. Good times, lol.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Karsus

-I remember I brought this up years ago at the WotC boards in relation to the coming 4e time jump and the weirdness it would cause regarding the portals/connections to Earth and someone reported me and tried to get me banned for threatening Ed Greenwood. Good times, lol.



I do not miss those forums at all.

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Posted - 28 Apr 2019 :  14:31:18  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Karsus

-I remember I brought this up years ago at the WotC boards in relation to the coming 4e time jump and the weirdness it would cause regarding the portals/connections to Earth and someone reported me and tried to get me banned for threatening Ed Greenwood. Good times, lol.



Sheesh... all you wanted to do was warn El so that he could make an adjustment to appear at the right coordinates in the time/space continuum. Some people.

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-It was someone who posted here too.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Karsus

-It was someone who posted here too.



Indeed, lol
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Delnyn
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Perhaps there are still Imaskari portals connecting to what is now Egypt and Iraq. When the Imaskari wizards abducted the Mulan people, I would expect the grabbed Mulhorandi, Untheric and Chessentan people from these areas.
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