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Valen
Acolyte

USA
5 Posts

Posted - 17 Jan 2019 : 20:42:09

Hi all!

I'm new to Candlekeep, but have been reading lots of forums since I found you all. I have a question, as a lover of all things elvish, about mythals. Is it possible to create new mythals? I'm been searching other threads to try for a little insight, but I'm not finding what I'm looking for. I've been in love with the Realms for ages, but I'm only getting back into playing and am thinking about tinkering with a little fan fiction just for fun. I'd appreciate any insight that those of you who are more learned that I might have to give.

Thanks in advance!

Edited by - Valen on 17 Jan 2019 20:42:37

Gary Dallison
Great Reader

United Kingdom
4427 Posts

Posted - 17 Jan 2019 : 21:15:24

I think the original idea of mythal is that they were a lost art of the elves, now long forgotten. The ruins that possessed mythal served as adventuring sites that would serve to warp the normal rules of magic that players would be used to.

In 2e that idea held true and mythal could not be created by any but the most powerful and ancient of individuals, and they would be unlikely to cooperate on such a risky and costly project (mythal creation tends to kill the creators).

3e started twisting many of Eds creations and misusing them, making portal creation, mythallar, enclaves, etc as common as muck. Indeed a mythal was created at the end of 3e to found the city of hope in the high moor.

In 4e and 5e I've no idea where mythal stand. I wouldn't be surprised to read of a magic wand that creates mythals like a pez dispenser gives out sweets.

If it's a story then you can do whatever you want. If it's for a game then I would have the creation be an endgame scenario for a campaign in which the pcs sacrifice themselves for the greater good.

But that's just my opinion.

Valen
Acolyte

USA
5 Posts

Posted - 17 Jan 2019 : 21:49:28

Thanks for that. I appreciate the insight!

TBeholder
Master of Realmslore

1793 Posts

Posted - 18 Jan 2019 : 03:38:29

quote:
Originally posted by Valen

Is it possible to create new mythals? I'm been searching other threads to try for a little insight, but I'm not finding what I'm looking for.

FRwiki (currently) gives a decent summary. https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Mythal

It is possible to make a new one, but...
Wizardly ritual requires extremely rare level of competence in arcane magic to even plan, a small crowd of secondary and tertiary casters (able and willing to work together and sacrifice some of their lifeforce), and approval of the gods of magic (as any spell stronger than 9 level).
High Magic ritual requires a bunch of High Mages, who are kind of uncommon, though tertiary casters may be normal elven wizards.
Either way, the primary caster is likely to suffer total lifeforce drain - stop living and not even make it to the afterlife, but stick around indefinitely as a ghost in the ~~machine~~ mythal.
Which is a part of the problem, since wizards whose work is likely to be approved by the gods of magic are unlikely to take this lightly, while most High Mages already have Call of Arvandor playing in their ears non-stop, and stave it off only with dedication to "a job that needs to be done". Mythanthar was an unusual case in unusual circumstances.

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Edited by - TBeholder on 18 Jan 2019 03:39:58

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