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Wooly Rupert
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On what Manshoon, Maaril, and Hesperdan were doing at age 43:

7 Feb 2019

@garethgarfoot
I've recently turned 43, so I was wondering if you could shed light on what my favourite three mages, Manshoon, Maaril, and Hesperdan were doing in their 43rd years. As always, thanks GG


@TheEdVerse
Right, here we go. Sages of the Realms, take note…
Hesperdan was 43 in 1106 DR, and though young, was rising in power among dragons. And faring badly against older and more powerful wyrms, several of whom had nearly slain him.

It was in this year that he first met Elminster, and Hesperdan’s desire to stay alive, revulsion at how paranoid, territorial, and grasping elder dragons he’d met had become, and fascination with humankind, their wizardry, and their society led him to overcome his acquisitive dragon nature and work with Elminster to gain arcane knowledge, to pursue his aim of attaining human shape, living among humans, and participating in his greatest love of all: intrigue and manipulation. Hesperdan first let Elminster into his mind in this year, and they shared thoughts and experiences. (This was the beginning of their long alliance, which led to Hesperdan later becoming an embedded spy for Elminster among the ranks of the Zhentarim.

Manshoon was 43 in 1271 DR, when the Zhentarim were a decade old and his hold on power in Zhentil Keep had become absolute. He spent much of this year in seclusion, ostensibly studying magic. Though he did craft some new spells (largely by refining existing spells, and combining stolen elven enchantments in new and more powerful ways), much of this year he spent doing two things: expanding and improving his private, personal spies both inside and outside the Zhentarim (his watchdogs on Fzoul and Fzoul’s priests, and his scouts to investigate future targets to conquer, such as Darkhold), and making ever-more-solid pacts with various beholders, to make his aims theirs, and so lessen chances of their betraying or sacrificing him. He also set about a long sideline project of magically enslaving several black dragon personal steeds.

Maaril was 43 in 1360 DR, a year he spent in seclusion in his Dragon Tower in Waterdeep. Or so Waterdhavians thought. In truth, he spent an eventful year traveling the Heartlands in disguise, getting over heartbreak at the loss of Tarrathra Delthond, his lover and trusted apprentice, taking on a new lover and apprentice (the shapeshifting Woevefril Tannakar) he hoped wouldn’t betray him as Tarrathra had, and rebuffing overtures from Manshoon to join the Zhentarim (Maaril was irked at the ease and persistence of Manshoon’s spies in finding him wherever he went and whatever guise he assumed, to petition him repeatedly).

There you go. ;}

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On ranks in the Purple Dragons:

8 Feb 2019

@ex_libris85
Hey @TheEdVerse need some help to figure out the ranking system of Cormyr's Purple Dragons. I am playing a PC who is a "lieutenant" in modern parlance so I have labeled him a Swordcaptain, but some places on google say this is more a enlisted sergeant-type rank. Volo's is scant


@TheEdVerse
You are correct. See POWER OF FAERUNp29 for a handy comparative ranks table. A modern private = blade in the Purple Dragons; corporal = telsword ("sword"); sergeant = first sword; lieutenant = swordcaptain; captain =lionar; major = ornrion; colonel = constal, etc.
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@ex_libris85
Thank you mighty Sage, I knew that Volo guy was sketchy.


@TheEdVerse
Heh. Sketchy indeed. And so shifty he escapes being drawn in many sketches. ;}

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Oh, you writers!

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If anyone has twitter would they mind asking a question of Ed about his original vision for Song Dragons for me pretty please.

I would like to know what he envisaged for the song dragon, how it differed from weredragons, how they reproduce (are there male and female and if not which other species are the cross fertile with), and any other information he might care to share about them. I realise this was all NDA regarding D&D song dragons a decade ago, but i was more interested in how he originally wanted them to be.

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quote:
Originally posted by dazzlerdal

If anyone has twitter would they mind asking a question of Ed about his original vision for Song Dragons for me pretty please.

I would like to know what he envisaged for the song dragon, how it differed from weredragons, how they reproduce (are there male and female and if not which other species are the cross fertile with), and any other information he might care to share about them. I realise this was all NDA regarding D&D song dragons a decade ago, but i was more interested in how he originally wanted them to be.



Done; will report here if I get an answer.

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Awesome, thank you

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quote:
Originally posted by dazzlerdal

Awesome, thank you



This is what Ed said:

quote:
Song dragons were essentially weredragons renamed, as D&D changed editions. In my original Realms, SOME weredragons were the result of dragon/human (or dragon/elf, or dragon/etc.) crossbreeding (in the ancestry of a particular weredragon). Which HORRIFIED TSR's Code of Conduct folks.

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quote:
Originally posted by dazzlerdal

If anyone has twitter would they mind asking a question of Ed about his original vision for Song Dragons for me pretty please.

I would like to know what he envisaged for the song dragon, how it differed from weredragons, how they reproduce (are there male and female and if not which other species are the cross fertile with), and any other information he might care to share about them. I realise this was all NDA regarding D&D song dragons a decade ago, but i was more interested in how he originally wanted them to be.




You can find THO/ED's response in his 2009 and 2011 threads here:

http://forum.candlekeep.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12023&whichpage=106


quote:
And Zandilar, you've spotted a WotC shift in how they viewed song dragons (the former "weredragons" of Ed-lore): initially (MoF) female-only, later seen as both genders with males VERY rare, for the very "how does the species reproduce, then?" reasons you bring up. Ed explained this discrepancy away by saying they all have the ability to take human female form, and are cross-fertile with humans when operating as females, but some of them use spells to APPEAR as human males for certain times, either out of preference or for business or personal mission reasons. So the male human is actually a magically-disguised human female who is really a song dragon in its only "natural" human form.
Myself, I share Ed's preference: that they'd stuck with weredragons all along, by all means revamping them for 3e if they wanted to do so, but thinking through such basics as species reproduction before writing up "official" rules. Sigh.


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quote:
As for Raumarth being a male, weredragons can be both male and female. 3e highlighted just the particular sort of weredragons known as Song Dragons, that take the form of female humans and female dragons, but the male weredragons who sire them still exist. They're just VERY rare now, thanks to being hunted by the Zhents AND the Cult of the Dragon for dragon-steed-breeding purposes (another largely untold tale of the Realms, though we Knights have seen quite a bit of it in play). Probably rare enough (like maedar, the male medusae) that a staff designer figured they didn't rate a writeup. Only really powerful unique creatures (the terrasque, demon princes, archdevils, etc.) usually get their own writeup, these days . . .

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These were I asked:

On fates of Kara-Tur and Maztica pantheon during the ToT

12 Oct 2018

@coolguy73360922
Hi Mr Greenwood! A question about the Time of Troubles. Did Ao cast down Kara-Tur and Maztica Pantheon from the heavens during the ToT?

@TheEdVerse
Oh, yes. However, the avatars of most of the deities from those pantheons hid or saw to personal business on Toril during the ToT, keeping much lower public profiles than those we read about in the "Avatar Trilogy."

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On Manshoon's clones

15 Oct 2018

@coolguy73360922
In "Only a Woman Can Take This Sort of Abuse", Manshoon forgetten stasis clone spell FOREVER. Did it included all his clones?

@TheEdVerse
No. What happens to one Manshoon affects only clones of that Manshoon (i.e. THAT Manshoon's subsequent uses of the clone spell), not any existing clones. They all have different memories, spell mastery and rosters, and powers.

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On Kelemvor's "jurisdiction"

29 Dec 2018

@coolguy73360922
A question about Kelemvor’s jurisdiction.
Do Faithless / False souls of Maztican or Kara-Turan judged and punished by Kelemvor?

@TheEdVerse
Only if they perish on hallowed ground (temples, blessed cemeteries or crypts, etc.) in Faerûn.

@coolguy73360922
I assume that Kelemvor unable to judge souls of Mulhorandi and Untheri either (except that "only if")?

@TheEdVerse
No, he can and does judge them, for all present-day (last 3 centuries) Mulhorandi and Untheri are daily aware of the presence, not just worship, of what we call the "Faerûnian" pantheon. As everyone saw from the Time of Troubles, a lot of godly "jurisdiction" is fuzzy/in flux.

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On drow harvesting roave and other spiders:

23 Feb 2019

@sno4wy
Can the internal juices of the roave be harvested without killing it? If not, how do the Lolthite Priestesses tolerate the practice of making Roavrae (or is the killing of spiders turned a blind eye upon so long as it produces a tasty/desirable outcome)?


@TheEdVerse
Skilled veterans can tap the internal juices without killing the spider, so they can be “milked” over long periods for a sustained supply. Some sorts of spiders, in particular situations, can be slain and “used” without incurring Lolth’s displeasure; she has made rules regarding this clear to many senior priestesses of Lolth.
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On using electricity, and cotton candy:

23 Feb 2019

@Jon_4L
have any inventors or faithful of gods of invention and crafting figured out anything electrically powered? Also have any figured out cotton candy machines, and if so, what's it called and where is it sold?


@TheEdVerse
Yes, there are electric DISCHARGE (not current) “devices” in the Realms, thanks to industrious gnomes and halflings—and a handful of humans—who saw what lightning rods could do. As a result, killing transmitted discharges make over twenty castles in the Realms deadly to try to assault during a storm. As for cotton candy: specifically NO. Thanks to a ruling made by TSR staff (DCS III was involved, I recall) long ago.
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On phan uth, and quess as root words:

Feb 23 2019

@killerasus
Hi @TheEdVerse The tree called phandar caught my attention, as Phandalin and Phandelver seem to share a root. Is there a connection, such as Phandalin being given this name due to a lot of phandars where it was built? Or is it just because of Phalorm?


@killerasus
A similar question would be about Uth. We've got Uthgardt barbarians and the Uthtower in the Mere of Dead Men. Is Uth a root with some meaning?


@killerasus
Lastly, when Terraseer created Quesseer (now Old Owl Well), as it was meant to be a spying spot to Illefarn, I presume Quess would be from the elven root for people (Tel'Quess) and seer would befrom it's spying function. So, could Quesseer mean "Elf Watcher"?


@TheEdVerse
“Phan” is a regional root shared by all three names, yes, but that doesn’t mean a local prevalence of phandar trees resulted in either of the other two names. “Uth” is indeed a similar shared root. Both roots are too ancient for anyone alive today, including sages, to be CERTAIN of the origins or original meanings of these two roots (for example, some sages of Silverymoon thought “Uth” meant “North,” but Elminster considers that to be a guess they’ve fallen in love with). Quesseer could indeed mean Elf Watcher, by the very reasoning you’ve laid out, but the key word is ‘could.’ Names are funny things, and origins are often lost or “improved upon,” over time.

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On the current state of Myth Drannor's mythal:

17 Feb 2019
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@LowWisdomCzech
Current year in my game is 1492 DR. I know that the Netherese flying city crushed Drannor, but what were the effects the last time it was up?


@TheEdVerse
Thultanthar crashed atop Myth Drannor in 1487 DR, shattering Myth Drannor’s mythal into a wild state. It has since (by about late spring of 1489 DR) settled down somewhat (largely due to the Weave-repairing efforts of Mystra’s Chosen), but remains unpredictable (i.e. a DM should feel free to have it exhibit wild magic effects, allow some magics on some occasions but not on others, and so on). At night, deep blue glows flicker at random over the ruined parts of the city (some areas weren’t damaged by the fall of the flying city at all, and others, including the site of the Tree of Life, were magically protected) as the mythal seethes. Mythal properties known to have survived from before the fall of Shade to after (again, wavering and unpredictably, as noted) are a prohibition on teleportation into and out of the mythal area (attempts to go in arrive at spots outside, attempts to even dimension door within fail utterly), the mythal wholly “drinks” energies of magic missiles and similar spells to replenish itself, and partially absorbs natural and magical lightnings, often deflecting what it doesn’t drink, and the mythal also absorbs shockwaves (lessening the percussive effect of explosions, thunderwave spells, etc.) and excess heat, but “leaks” heat when the climate is cold (so no creature should die of exposure or freezing while outside in winter, in the mythal area). Note that some of these properties were ‘turned off’ by powerful elf defenders of the city, and Chosen, during their defense of Myth Drannor just before the fall of Thultanthor.

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On the original version of the Moonshaes:

17 Feb 2019
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@RetroGamer_Meph
It’s interesting to note that in the original FR box set, in the rumours, there is mention of “the fueding merchant houses of the Moonshaes.” Not like the celtic feel that eventually was published. I’d love to hear the story of that


@TheEdVerse
Hi. My original Moonshaes were very like LeGuin’s Earthsea or the real-world Hebrides in physiography: a cluster of many islands of varying sizes, with independent city-states and “realms” of one island dominating or claiming at most two adjacent ones. It was a region of hardy fisherfolk, woodcutters, and miners, who over time had become master mariners sailing far up and down the Sword Coast trading, fearless faring in winter gales, among icebergs, etc. and over time, the wealthiest Shae merchants had established trading costers on mainland Faerûn, assembled their own private armies of caravan escorts and warehouse guards, and inevitably clashed with each other, rivalries rising into feuds (think the warring families of Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet). They were wealthy, proud, and increasingly into manipulating local politics in all the ports up and down the Sword Coast, as far south as Tharsult, because they were always aware that, as “outsiders,” they could be shut out if local rulers ashore, or popular sentiment among mainland populaces, turned against them.
This was all set aside because TSR designer Doug Niles had already developed an “Albion” campaign (Celtic elements, hence the castles named “Caer X” and “Caer Y,” the stallion Avalon, and so on) before TSR purchased the Realms. Jeff Grubb asked me if I minded if “my” Moonshaes got replaced by Doug’s, and I didn’t—which suited TSR’s needs perfectly, as that meant the Realms could be “rolled out” to the gaming public even faster (hence Doug’s novel Darkwalker On Moonshae leading the way as the first Realms product; TSR wanted to avoid at all costs my becoming a bottleneck that might slow Realms products appearing, and I agreed and still agree with that).

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On how big dragons can get:

18 Feb 2019
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@littlefartloser
I'm trying to figure out how large a dragon can actually grow in Faerûn. How large is the largest living dragon? The Robert Wadlow of dragons if you will. Is it Klauth?


@TheEdVerse
No, Klauth is just one of the larger dragons seen in the Sword Coast region. There are wyrms far to the east (“Utter East” and in the north of Raurin) that are far larger (some of them tend and “farm” their own herds of wild beasts to dine on, in mountain-locked high valleys).

They include a gargantuan gray great wyrm, Ralauthoarindulglaw “the Mountain,” so large its wings can’t lift it off the ground, and whose hide has been adorned down the years with fused-on sheets of rock and boulders, so that when lying at rest, it resembles a rocky ridge or mountain spur. Elminster says Ralauthoarindulglaw is about a quarter of a mile long, and about sixty feet tall at its foreshoulders, when on all fours.

Other “big drakes” have been reported, but when creatures get that big, and are typically seen in difficult, remote wilderland terrain, getting exact sizes is difficult.

So Ralauthoarindulglaw may in fact fall far short of being “the largest living dragon.”

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On worshipping Moradin in Waterdeep, and the Plinth:

18 Feb 2019

@alebelp
Sorry to bother you but I'm new to DMing and I've been searching much but to no avail. Is there a temple of Moradin in WD? I made up a little grotto/shrine in the vicinity of the Halls of Justice but I was wondering if there was an official one in the Lore. Thanks :)


@TheEdVerse
Hi! For years, Moradin was worshipped in the Plinth (the all-faiths temple), but local dwarves preferred their own private cellar chapels, and built them under properties they own, all over the city. Newcomers see dwarves, ask where the nearest temple is, and get taken to one of these. Which is why you won't find one in the lore. Gnomes and halflings tend to be like dwarves in that they prefer private cellar or "upper room" temples, not big stone edifices fronting on public streets. That's for humans.
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@Madhatterhim
Speaking of The Plinth. It was destroyed by the Spellplague; has it since been rebuild?
I've seen no indication that it has.


@TheEdVerse
Heh. That's one of those "bickering over funding" situations where the site has been cleared to the foundations, fencing has gone up, the Lords have approved rebuilding, the guilds have put in (sometimes-competing) bids, and there we sit. A project delayed by the tense final days of Neverember's tenure as Open Lord, then left in limbo. So it should still proceed, but is "back-burner" with more pressing issues on the local political plate. And of course, the longer Waterdhavians go without it and find their own worship alternatives, the less and less the need for the Plinth feels urgent, so more time can pass. And does.

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On the architecture of Cape Velen, in Tethyr:

18 Feb 2019


@Eric_Menge
I'm designing a home game set on Cape Velen in Tethyr. What would be a good real-world inspiration for the environment and architecture? I was looking at Galicia, Spain.


@TheEdVerse
Hi, Eric! Love the Moonshaes work!
Rural medieval Galicia (fieldstone buildings with tile or slate roofs) works, but not the grander city architecture of Tuy or Vigo, and certainly not the cathedral of Santiago de Compostela.

But all of these work for me:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/happiness-is-a-hamlet-all-to-yourself-in-rural-spain-8760036.html ...
and:
https://imgur.com/gallery/o4PTnPV/comment/276632322 ...
and:
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/traditional-galician-horreo-granary-architecture-rural-galicia-spain-destination.html ...
&:
https://www.alamy.com/old-and-new-houses-in-coastal-horreos-village-of-combarro-galicia-image9869723.html ...
and:
https://www.istockphoto.com/in/photo/small-old-village-in-a-rural-area-galicia-spain-gm537452354-95319127
...work for you?
I figure “grand” houses in Velen are akin to this:
https://www.spanishmonastery.com/
Lots of trees and scrub woodland, hilly country, rock outcrops everywhere, and rural field boundaries would be a mix of drystone walls (rock taken from the fields in tillage) and bocage-style tall living hedges, with dirt-lane-side ditches.


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On some elvish words:

14 Feb 2019


@gkrashos
we have a Realmslore emergency, Ed! For a cool FR connection I need the elvish words for “morning” and “song”. What do you have oh great sage?


@TheEdVerse
Hi, George! Sorry, was offline doing my taxes. :{
Elvish in the Realms: morning is "ormra" and song is "lalay"
(sunrise is "calam" and a sung saga or long epic ballad is a "omraestrum")


Feb 17

@gkrashos
Which of course means that I have another question. Black Logan is voracious as you know! Elvish words for the seasons? Also most, fog and storm? We are building a Realms weather station.#128521;


@TheEdVerse
Hi, George! Here you go:
Mist = daen
Fog = thu (pronounced “thoo”)
Storm = hethtalos
Spring = tuev (“toove”)
Summer = lildun (“lil-DOON”)
Fall = valan (“vahl-an”)
Winter = oth (also means freezing, frozen, killing cold)
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On breakfast in Cormyr:

Feb 11 2019
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@jayeedgecliff
rereading Stormlight today & it gives an intriguing (if sometimes disturbing) view of Fine Dining in easternmost Cormyr if one wishes to impress guests.

I suspect, given some signs of familiarity in the war wizards that Suzailian fancy feasting is quite similar.

So what of when one ISN’T trying to show off? What does a high noble of the realm have to break her fast, by preference? Or for lunch or dinner for that matter?

Is it, beyond details (quail or goose vs chicken or ... pheasant?), much different than a commoner has?


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Not really, except for the poorest commoners (who might have gruel or porridge, or if on a farm just that morning's fresh milk and eggs and naught else). A high noble of the realm will usually have a "board" morningfeast (that is, left out on the sideboard in dome-covered bowls and platters, kept warm by being wrapped in a succession of hearth-warmed towels from the kitchens. The food will be whatever the noble likes best, often hard-boiled eggs with a spicy dipping sauce often based in goat cheese, and fried bread (rather than toast), bacon (what we might call "back bacon" or Canadian bacon" but NEVER peameal-dressed), fried lamb's kidneys, and whatever exotic eggs the noble prefers, from turtle eggs to eagle eggs. There's where noble and commoner vary: enough exposure to "exotic" eggs to develop a taste for them, rather than settling for whatever (hen, duck, goose) eggs are readily available. Also, a commoner would have hearth broth or small beer to drink, whereas a noble might have mulled wine or ALL the decanters.
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

On how big dragons can get:


They include a gargantuan gray great wyrm, Ralauthoarindulglaw “the Mountain,” so large its wings can’t lift it off the ground, and whose hide has been adorned down the years with fused-on sheets of rock and boulders, so that when lying at rest, it resembles a rocky ridge or mountain spur. Elminster says Ralauthoarindulglaw is about a quarter of a mile long, and about sixty feet tall at its foreshoulders, when on all fours.

(...)

So Ralauthoarindulglaw may in fact fall far short of being “the largest living dragon.”



Considering this dragon is more than a thousand feet long and only 60 feet tall at its shoulders, it must be almost serpentine, no? Besides, is anywhere a description of a gray dragon, or is this mention only for describing its color, and is it unique?

EDIT: Could someone who has an active twitter account ask those questions there, please?

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I have conveyed your question. Hope Ed can answer it!

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quote:
Originally posted by Barastir


Considering this dragon is more than a thousand feet long and only 60 feet tall at its shoulders, it must be almost serpentine, no? Besides, is anywhere a description of a gray dragon, or is this mention only for describing its color, and is it unique?

EDIT: Could someone who has an active twitter account ask those questions there, please?




Ed said this:

It is almost serpentine, and as mentioned, can't fly. Nor does it go raiding; it sleeps, dreams, ponders, entertains itself by devising and trying new magics, and husbands/shepherds its (herd) food supply.

Gray dragons are also known as fang dragons (the name I gave them when I created them and added them to the game back in 2e days), and are an official dragon type described in many places.
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Zero's note: AFAIK gray dragons are in the Draconomicons. If you don't dislike 4e sources, I know for sure they are in Draconomicon: Chromatic Dragons

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My dragon/Corgi crossbreed idea was more fun.

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Cool! I know of fang dragons from 2e, BTW. Thank you, Zeromaru X, and thank Ed for me, if possible!

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