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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 13 Jan 2019 :  05:07:03  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
On descending from Netherese flying cities:


@William21Strong
Planning a Netheril campaign, and wondered: how might one ascend to or descend from a flying city? Did it always require magic such as a fly/teleport spell, or did some/all of the cities have nonmagical means for that as well? #DungeonsAndDragons

@TheEdVerse
All of the cities had non-magical means, even if it was just what we might call a "cablecar elevator" system. Some had miles-long, cloud-condensation-water-lubricated SLIDES for the downbound journey. :}

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On Rhauntides' Tower:


@garethgarfoot
Greetings from England! I hope this week is going well? I wonder what you can reveal about Rhauntides' Tower? The survivors of the visit to Chondalthripe's tower, are planning on taking an obscure artifact to Rhauntides for his opinions. Many thanks ~GG


@TheEdVerse
Rhauntides and Shaunil finally accepted elven offers to relocate to Evermeet, and did so, silently slipping away from their tower in Highmoon, likely in the spring of 1382, although they told no one, and even neighbors, thanks to the spells they left active, thought they were still in residence.
Their tower was guarded by many traps, almost all of them sequenced spell triggers that discharged arrays of “hanging”-ready spells that renewed themselves daily.
So a trap in their tower wouldn’t be a pit or a deadfall or a discharged missile; it would be several unleashed spells in succession, often of different sorts and set so as to afflict an intruder retreating from an initial spell attack.
The Spellplague didn’t destroy these traps. Rather, it twisted them into an everchanging array of weird, wild spell effects, some of them not harmful—but some of them even more deadly than the norm, like magic missile and minute meteors volleys that emanate from the body of an affected being, in all directions, not under their control, at random times.
Rhauntides and Shaunil left behind not a single written spell or note on magic, so their tower should be a trapfest with very little treasure, beyond domestic furniture (including their “second-best” flying carpet bed). The beings known as “living spells” may or may not be in residence.

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On the death of Rhauntides:


@gkrashos
The 3E FR Campaign Setting Book states that Rhauntides died in 1371 DR and Shaunil had left with the Belt of Stars on a secret mission. His tower was given over to a monk. I know this because I remember arguing with WotC re the changes. Was it all a ruse on Rhauntides' part?


@TheEdVerse
:} It was. The best way to get out of being hounded by various rulers and nobles who had fallen into the habit of using Rhauntides for valuations on nigh-everything, and settling disputes, drudge-work he'd grown more than tired of. :}#Realmslore

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On the splitting of Waterdeep's House Ruldegost into Houses Ruldegost and Gost:


@LazarStojkovic
How — and, more importantly, why — did the Gosts spliter off from the Ruldegosts in Waterdeep? Thanks in advance! #128522;


@TheEdVerse
Hi!
Here’s the fast, slimmed down version:
House Gost split from House Ruldegost in 1197 DR over profound disagreements over religion and ethics: the Ruldegosts, bankers and investors in caravan-mastering (and mercenaries, primarily as caravan escorts, and bounty-hunting, primarily to track down and jail swindlers) who venerated Waukeen and Tempus, tried to expel two younger sons and a daughter of the family who had taken up worship of Mask, and invested their personal coins in the Shadow Thieves. (In other words, a dispute between wealthy law-and-order types who made profits if the status quo laws and order were maintained, versus “get rich quick” sorts who wanted to profit from breaking the same rules.) Those shunned Ruldegosts became House Gost, and got involved in plundering noble tombs, swindling guilds, kidnapping nobles (such as some of the Gundwynd nobles of the day), and even working with, and and interbreeding with, yuan-ti (so some Gosts have the Snake Blood feat, to this day). This bare bones reason was complicated by the personalities involved, and you will hear many different tales today as to why the split happened.

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On castle and city walls:


@foggio
hi, Just a simple question. Castle and city walls in The Heartlands are made of bricks or stones?


@TheEdVerse
Fitted stones (i.e. all different sizes, like a drystone wall), usually in two thicknesses with stone rubble in between (a "stone sandwich"), but it varies. Some castles have magically-fused outer walls (spells heated stone like glass to melt together), and some city walls are so thick they're buildings (with interior rooms and corridors) with really thick outermost walls on both sides. Brickwork is typically found only for small running repairs, and to line water or heat conduits to get a smoother, sealed inner surface.
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Thanks for collating all of these Wooly. For future reference, it might also assist if you noted the date of Ed's Twitter reply. Cheers.

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On equivalent terms to "black and white" - 13/01/2019:

@sno4wy:
Are there any sayings in the Realms that is analogous to the phase, "black and white" (involving clearly defined opposing principles or issues) in our world?

@TheEdVerse:
Oh, yes. "Clear before the gods" is the phrase, which is a corruption of a quote from Augathra the Mad: "Clear before all gods." The dwarves have an equivalent, now (rendered into Common) in common use among all trading races: "Edge and flat" [meaning any fool can FEEL the difference between the edge and flat of a blade [of an axe or a sword]. The elven equivalent is "sun and moon" [meaning anyone with eyesight can tell the difference between sunlight and moonlight]. #Realmslore

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On Neverwinter's layout - 9/01/2019

@Bluzpicker:
@TheEdVerse Dear Mr. Greenwood, I returned to play 5e after 32 years away from D&D. I want to run a 5e campaign in the city of Neverwinter and am seeking details. I'm frustrated I can't locate shops and streets mentioned in canonical materials on a city map. Can you please help?

@TheEdVerse:
Sure, but this is something I've answered a LOT, here on Twitter and on Facebook and at Candlekeep. (Where others have answered, too.) You do have the Neverwinter Campaign Setting book, and have looked at the Locations in Neverwinter on the FR wiki, yes?

@Bluzpicker:
Thanks for responding to my inquiry. Sorry for wasting your time. I have the Neverwinter Campaign Setting, but no maps of Neverwinter come with street names, only a few buildings identified unlike the Waterdeep maps I have seen. I'll look at Candlekeep. TY

@TheEdVerse:
No worries! Here's the first relevant previous tweet of mine: Dannar’s Mechanical Marvels (from Volo's GuidettNorth) stands in the Blacklake District, next door to Jaesor’s Fineware Porcelain Works. Jaesor’s is on the NE corner where The Street Of Storms (which runs along the inside of the NWern run of the city wall) meets Hantor’s Lane, which runs SE. Dannar’s fronts on Hantor’s Lane. Blackule Lane (which several schools and academies front on) is also in the Blacklake District. (I'll look for more.) The backlore is that past rulers of Neverwinter forbade publication of maps of the city "for security reasons." Which meant no maps with tags. When Lord Neverember relaxed this, we got maps with individual sites marked...but still no street names. So I've been directing traffic for gamers ever since. ;}

@Bluzpicker:
Thanks again. I collected enough fragments of information that I can proceed assigning locations on the excellent map I purchased from Mike Schley. I realize that my assignment of some businesses and shops will be somewhat arbitrary, but will suffice for my campaign purposes.

@TheEdVerse:
Great. Some of the shop/building locales are "fuzzy" even when we designers discuss things privately, I'm afraid, because the maps don't QUITE match what was said in fiction prose or in published adventures. The computer game locales don't exactly vie with the maps, either. If I were you, I'd put it down to businesses moving after fires or to upsize while enjoying successes or downsizing because trade is bad, plus the upheavals within the city, and site individual things where they work best for you.

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On the Dodkong:

@newbiedm
i’m just going to go to the source. i love The Dodkong from the Grand History book. What is his goal? I want to make him the big bad guy in a campaign, what drives him, what would be a neat way to use him? How do you all envision using him in a game?


@TheEdVerse


I've always intended the Dodkong to be a guy who wants (very slowly and patiently, working "under the radar" for as long as possible to avoid interference from the likes of Larloch and the Srinshee and the Seven) to shatter the dominance of humans, and then elves and orcs after that so as to prevent their rising to fill the power vacuum, so he can "restore" giants to mastery over Faerűn. And at the same time, he would "reorder" the status quo among giants by humbling cloud giants and storm giants, to let the stone and fire giants have their chances to reign. And he would do this in part by manipulating dragons and dracoliches into personal fights with cloud and storm giants, to weaken and eliminate as many dragons as possible ere giants rose to ascendancy.

Not small goals, and not easily or swiftly achieved. But he's all about playing the Long Game. Like Larloch, remaking Toril the way he wants it to be. Fomenting wars amongst humans, widespread slaughter among the drow and all goblinkin, and tolerating only hin, gnomes, and dwarves as acceptable giant servitor races.

However, I defer to Tom Costa in this, a superb sage of Realmslore who's contributed much over the years yet remained largely unsung. If he has something different in mind, run with it...

(And BTW, what I've outlined here doesn't clash with Storm King's Thunder. Run both at once)


@jaa0109
Just once I want Ed to respond with a lore question with, "I was shitfaced when I wrote that, I have no idea."

Just one time!


@TheEdVerse
I have no idea. I was shitfaced when Tom Costa wrote that. ;}


@JuhlAagaard
Hot dang, that's awesome. Thanks, always wanted to use the dodkong in my own campaign ever since I first saw him in the Grand History of the Realms. This might make it happen, finally.


@TheEdVerse
The Dodkong has no interest in fighting adventurers; the "running under the radar" style means he's almost always going to work through intermediaries (like manipulated bands of NPC adventurers, orc tribes, drow, cloud and storm giants). YEARS of mayhem at the gaming table.


@JuhlAagaard
That's exactly what appeals to me, nothing is what it seems in my campaign. The players my think that they are fighting small time criminals, giblinoids etc, but behind those groups, there is almost always something more sinister going on. Be it the Zhents, Red Wizards or the Eldreth Veluuthra. Sometimes they don't discover that right away. So I shelve the idea or return to it at a later date. I like to surprise... and sometimes confuse my players a bit.


@TheEdVerse
Heh. The "home" Realms campaign is like that, too. And has been, for forty years. (Which is one of the reasons it's so hard to impart its feel in one-shot games at conventions.) Intrigues and subplots, intrigues and subplots. Great training for the real world, too.


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On Lliiran celebrations:


@jayeedgecliff
today being Christmas got me to wondering about my Lliiran cleric.
Has she got a calendar of holy days? Or is every day containing at least one vowel or consonant a festival day and requiring a grand celebration?


@TheEdVerse
Heh. You're welcome!
Lliiran clerics are all about spontaneous celebrations, made meaningful by links to personal meanings. So they celebrate things friends and acquaintances do, or achieve, or did (anniversaries). Unlike other faiths, it's about "all of us" (incl. commoners).

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On Hillfarian or Hillsfarian:


@Dvergr76
Hillfarian or Hillsfarian? I've seen both used.


@TheEdVerse
Folk in the Realms use both, but sages and scribes stick with "Hillsfarian."

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On surfing in the Realms, 12/24/18:


@Welhaven1
Does anyone go surfing in the Realms? I kind of want to make a Point Break style adventure somewhere on the Sword Coast


@TheEdVerse
On the coast of Tethyr, right where it adjoins Calimshan, local folk fish for the small brown local crayfish by swimming out with a board that has a small parachute-shaped stone-weighted drag-net attached to it, then surfing the waves in, to fill the net. Some do it with style.;}


@Welhaven1
Awesome! Thank you so much


@TheEdVerse
A pleasure. I would think they'd have done the same in Ulgarth and Var the Golden, circa the 1350s, but haven't yet developed lore that far in those areas...

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

On Lliiran celebrations:


@jayeedgecliff
today being Christmas got me to wondering about my Lliiran cleric.
Has she got a calendar of holy days? Or is every day containing at least one vowel or consonant a festival day and requiring a grand celebration?


@TheEdVerse
Heh. You're welcome!
Lliiran clerics are all about spontaneous celebrations, made meaningful by links to personal meanings. So they celebrate things friends and acquaintances do, or achieve, or did (anniversaries). Unlike other faiths, it's about "all of us" (incl. commoners).



I find this very fitting. I see Lliiran clerics as the consummate "wedding and firstmorn planners" of the realms. Its not about celebrating in a massive festival, but simply celebrating individuals and the notable things that they make of their lives. They focus on the small achievements that show people that they matter, and in return the "small folk" give what they can to the church to help someone else celebrate down the line.

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On elven bladesong:

@Jon_4L
was there a particular inspiration for the Bladesong that Elves have? And have you ever performed one or asked someone to perform one?


@TheEdVerse
One of my earliest daydreams of elves dancing in forests with drawn swords (age 5 or so, so about a decade before D&D) was the inspiration. Yes, I've performed several at early GenCons (when my knees still worked, and pre-throat surgery when I could still sing).

I've never asked someone to perform one, but have watched several performances of bladesongs by others at RenFaires and conventions.

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On Waterdhavian prisons:

@ethankillett
I'm having a hell of a time finding any information about an actual prison or dungeon in Waterdeep. I have a character that's murdered a citizen and a horse "in self defense." I'm even looking at the TSR books and can't find a solid answer.


@TheEdVerse
This was covered in my Wizards website articles on the Watch, some years back. Every wall-tower in the city serves as a Watch barracks/armory/patrol station, with before-sentencing lockup cells beneath it. Sentences increasingly tend towards fines, then exile and so on, but the "imprisonment" parts are served in the dungeons beneath Castle Waterdeep, with overflow cells more recently carved out of the chilled-by-sea-winds north face of Mount Waterdeep (which is extensively tunneled and holds many things). ;}
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(In response to a picture of a lawyer's office; Ed uses the lawyers names in his post)

@MileyMan1066
your take good sir?


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Elminster frowns on worldhopping legal shenanagins. Pretty sure Skadron the bandit leader and sometime pirate hasn’t the temperament for legal work; “Harps” is a half-elf exotic dancer known for her musical accompaniments to her own performances on stage; the “Slate” I know in Toril is Dannath Durslate, a wealthy and respected dwarf builder who’s been erecting ever-taller and -grander stone mansions and business premises in the cities of Sembia for two centuries; “Meager” was the nickname of a long-ago Lord of Sessrendale, Maryn Ameigrar (also known as “the Miser” and “Lord Starvation”) whose crackpot ideas that his people should live on handfuls of cheese, nuts, and bread eventually got him walled away and starved to death at their hands; and Amratha “Flom” Flombarr was a successful adventurer of the 1200s DR who had a hand in the slaying of at least one dragon, and retired rich to a well-hidden and modest country compound in the shade of the Wealdath where she died in 1296 DR. Perhaps Matt is mistaking them for the litigious half-orc roofers Skuddren and Halark Slates, Tiles, and Mareigur, active in the rural Vilhon (“mareigur” is rothe-dung-and-lime thatch used to roof homes cheaply throughout the north; half-orcs have some secret treatment, likely involving their own urine, that renders it resistant to flame, whereas the mareigur of others is notorious for being unquenchable, once something ignites it).

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On translating the name "Willowcrest" to elven:

1/21/19
@dreamwisp
A rather specific query: how would the surname "Willowcrest" translate from Common to Elvish? Any guidance would be much appreciated if you have the time!


@TheEdVerse
Hi! In the Realms (as opposed to Middle Earth), “Willowcrest” is either Sarrbarand [from “sarr,” plural sarren = willow(s)] or Sarrasharl [“barand” is crest of avian, creature, or heraldic, “sharl” is a geographic ridge, and “asharl” is its top/edge/dropoff, or crest]. So, your choice of Sarrbarand or Sarrasharl. :}

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On deities claiming souls:

@True_Retwerd
Hi, Ed! Quick question. What canonically happens to souls that are contested between two powers? Like, if someone is a devoted follower of a good-aligned deity, but their line is cursed to be damned to the Hells. What would happen in this instance?


@TheEdVerse
Only priests, paladins, and fanatics are devoted to one deity in the Realms. Everyone believes in all deites, and worships (even if only lip-service, now and then) most of them. So if an individual is devoted to one deity, that deity would have the strongest claim on their soul.

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On Pennae and Florin Falconhand:

1/21/19
@SatanNinja198X
Pennae was one of my favorite characters in the Knights trilogy, so I was sad to learn that the only additional lore on her is a passing mention in FR7 about her dying at the hands of a weretiger. Could you elaborate on what happened to her in the home Realms?


@TheEdVerse
Lune Lyrohar, resident of Shadowdale, was secretly a weretiger. Pennae did her "I'm a thief, I'll go out on my own stealthy stealthy" thing to try to find the big cat that was savagely mauling villagers to death...and found it, the hard way. :{ Vivid 1979 roleplaying session.


@SatanNinja198X
Ah, thanks so much for giving me a bit of closure. FR7 also mentions that Florin was "enamored" of her. So by the time of her death, had she and Florin moved beyond the casual flirting they did in the books?


@TheEdVerse
Yes. But Pennae was always a "wild spirit," not wanting marriage nor just one lover (or only lovers of one gender, for that matter). And by then, Mielikki was appearing in Florin's dreams and hinting to him that she had a mate in mind for him (Dove).


@SatanNinja198X
After the tragic loss of Narantha (assuming that occurred in the home Realms), then Pennae, I suppose the guy deserved a happy relationship with Dove. I know Florin "rescued" Dove from a Voonlar tavern. Was that their first real meeting in the home Realms?


@TheEdVerse
It was. Unbeknownst to Florin, an arrow that flashed to his aid in a forest fight a year earlier came from Dove's bow (as a Harper working against Zhent raiders), but The Whistling Wizard rescue was the first time Florin knowingly laid eyes on Dove.

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On Murdane:

12/23/17
@Madhatterhim
Tying itself a bit to my last question relating to Ancient Sune, I'm aware that the aspects of Murdane have been kept purposefully vague. I am however curious what her faith was like in the broader sense?
Like, do you have any thoughts on what her Symbol would have been like, or such?
Essentially things people of Toril might still know of the dead goddess?


@TheEdVerse
Murdane is still revered by some sages as the champion and most skilled proponent of what we real-world moderns call “the deductive method” (she could do the astound-Watson Holmesian “Ah, a retired potter, I perceive, but lately returned from X and now down on his luck”).

She was depicted as having a long mane (ponytail) of rich reddish-black hair, so a lock of hair in that rare hue is often used as a “touchstone”/keepsake by those who revere her (or want her aid when they have to “think something through”).

However, her holy/temple symbol was a chevron-shaped (like Superman’s chest shield) group of three side-on black interlocked cogs (“gears”/toothed wheels, big top wheel interlocked with medium middle wheel that’s interlocked with a small bottom wheel (on a field of gold).


1/21/19
@Madhatterhim
Over a year ago, I asked you about some information on the goddess Murdane, and you described her holy symbol. However, when I got back to it, I was struggling a bit with grasping the description, so I tried to design it.


@Madhatterhim
Is this visual design how the description is meant to be interpreted?
Additionally, there is no indication of what the Field-of-Gold is shaped like; is there a specific shape? Or is that unimportant?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxdbDbkWkAca7Lp.png


@TheEdVerse
You've nailed it. In heraldry, the "field" is the background. In this case, the shape of the field would depend on where and how the symbol was depicted. Temple door: entire door gold, black gears upper center. Breast badge on priest's tabard or very large on a temple wall behind/above an altar: the field would be chevron-shaped, echoing the gear arrangement (so, making a border of gold all around the gears, of the same chevron shape). Sometimes (cufflinks, pendant) an oval, but usually a chevron-shield-shape.

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On Vangey:

1/21/19
@ShanHaddock
@jayeedgecliff’s Cormyrean noble cleric talking about Vangey: He really *does* think every time he goes to the privy or washes his backside it’s in the service of the realm! #DND #ForgottenRealms @TheEdVerse is she right? #128512;


@TheEdVerse
Oh, yes! I've written scenes about this in published Realms fiction: both his very real and dedicated service to Cormyr, and his now-effortless habit of rationalizing that his every personal preference and druthers is what the realm truly needs. ;} That's what makes Vangey so effective...and scary. ;}


@jayeedgecliff
Oh my ... and my Truesilver-replacement-family scion said this, aloud to herself & her goddess, while shouting at him, too #128579;
She loves cousin Azoun. War Wizards & Vangey she has rather sharp words for. To be fair she DOES feel that he’s endangered dear Daddy (bluedragon cmdr)


@TheEdVerse
Now here's the strange thing about Vangey: he'd be irked at hearing this, but NOT show it, and would think this Lady Truesilver would bear closer watching from now on (traitor? ALL nobles have the tendency!) BUT would respect her more...as someone who sees shrewdly ("no fool").

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On griffons:


1/16/19
@Shaherr9000
Hi Ed, long time listener first time caller. Just wondering where Griffons originated from? Being monstrosities, were they made? Or were they just always *there*?


@TheEdVerse
So far as everyone now alive (or sentiently undead) in the Realms knows (and that includes REALLY old folks), griffons have "always been there." They may well be older than humankind on Toril.

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One the pronunciation of "ffolk":

1/18/19
ţ@webjr1981
How does one pronounce the "ffolk" of the Moonshaes. I've always just said "folk" but I'm listening to one of Doug's books on Audible, and they are doubling the f in the verbal pronunciation and it sounds... odd.


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From the early TSR "published Realms" days, as Doug's Albion campaign was eased into the Realms to replace my original Moonshaes, the TSR staff pronounced "Ffolk" with the double "f" so that's how it has always been to me.

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On Phalorm, Neverwinter, and Castle Cragmaw:

1/17/19
@DysonLogos
Was Neverwinter ever part of Phalorm? Waterdeep rejected the alliance initially, but later joined, but Neverwinter had the assistance of Palarandusk during that era.

Phalorm claimed land in the region, but did they ever have dominion over the city itself?


@Aclippinger
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To HELPFULLY expand on that, the three participating kingdoms (Ardeep forest elves, Dardath dwarves, and Delimbiyran humans) were all closely centralized around the Delimbiyr River south/SE of the High Forest and east of modern day Secomber. (Dove in for an upcoming Guild thing)


@DysonLogos
Cool. They did have an unnamed castle in the woods near Neverwinter, so I was curious.


@TheEdVerse
Heh. That castle was not unnamed. I drew the original map for it in 1979, and named it. ;}
Alex hath the right of it. Neverwinter was never part of Phalorm. And there was a huge difference between Phalorm proper, the "wide patrol area" Phalorm maintained to give themselves advance warning of orc hordes and other armies on the move, and the "this is all ours, so keep off" claim made by waving at maps, but doing nothing beyond scouting on the ground. ;}


@DysonLogos
Awesome, thanks!

So, as the obvious follow-up question, what was the name of the castle that became Cragmaw castle in the modern era?


@TheEdVerse
It was one of three identical-layout "Castle Crag" fortresses, all built and designed by the same man, Konstal Cragar (whom very few humans knew was a mere front for a dwarf stronghold-building firm run by Clan Blackstone). TSR wanted all name duplications gone from the Realms to Dispel Confusion, so my "demon and devil both named Astaroth, so be VERY careful when summoning" went away, so did the Castle Crags, and all that survived was a handful of humans (Torm, Helm) sharing names with gods (there were many).

Postscript: The other two Castle Crags were in Cormyr (became Castle Kilgrave in the TSR-published Realms) and (ruined and overgrown) in Shadowdale.

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On post-1385 Magisters:

1/7/19
@coolguy73360922
After Talatha's demise in 1385DR, was there a successor of Magister? Or that office was be defunct (because of Mystra's death)?


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There was no Magister while Msytra was "dead." There is a new one now. Identity: NDA. (Sorry.)

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