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Gyor
Master of Realmslore

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Posted - 05 Sep 2018 :  22:58:15  Show Profile Send Gyor a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not FR novels, but now that Ravnica is a D&D Setting, do the two Ravnica novels count as D&D novels?
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Irennan
Great Reader

Italy
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Posted - 06 Sep 2018 :  00:15:13  Show Profile Send Irennan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd say they are MtG novels, unless they used D&D lore (cosmology, spells, etc...) and they obviously won't.

I'm honestly beyond pissed that MtG is getting novels, while FR is left with Drizzt, and will be left with only Drizzt for the foreseeable future (who might as well not even be FR anymore, but just its own franchise).

To all Facebook-using FR fans, you might be interested in checking out this page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/450517575051806/

Edited by - Irennan on 06 Sep 2018 00:18:36
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Caolin
Senior Scribe

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Posted - 06 Sep 2018 :  00:31:33  Show Profile Send Caolin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Irennan

I'd say they are MtG novels, unless they used D&D lore (cosmology, spells, etc...) and they obviously won't.

I'm honestly beyond pissed that MtG is getting novels, while FR is left with Drizzt, and will be left with only Drizzt for the foreseeable future (who might as well not even be FR anymore, but just its own franchise).



Oh see now this is interesting. Because the entire reason we don't have a bevy of Realms novels is directly related to MtG. See, several years ago Hasbro reorganized their game division and forced each of the separate IPs to operate on their own budget.

Before that they were all under one umbrella and shared resources. That meant that meant DnD benefited from the popularity and income of MtG (which made far and away more money).

So now it seems MtG is gonna drink DnDs milk shake.
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sno4wy
Learned Scribe

USA
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Posted - 06 Sep 2018 :  01:34:31  Show Profile Send sno4wy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This makes me think of the Blizzard video games spin-off novels. As much as I love both books and Blizzard games, I didn't think they'd make for a good combination, an opinion that only became more solidified after I'd read most of them. Some of the writing in those novels is truly cringe-worthy, and while I enjoy the lore of Warcraft and Diablo more than I'd care to admit, I wish I could get the time I'd spent reading those books back. Nonetheless, they're successful enough that they'd branched out into things like mangas, because the parent franchise sells so incredibly well. I see the new MtG novels like that. Hasbro's willing to make them because MtG fans will consume them, even if they're not very good.
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KraziJoe
Acolyte

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Posted - 07 Sep 2018 :  19:34:22  Show Profile Send KraziJoe a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I guess I am partially to blame because I got lost after the Spellplague. I thought I had a pretty good grasp on the lore before then but after, it seemed to be so convoluted and without reason that I sort of gave up. Even Drizzt seemed that way until the gang was brought back to life to sort of right their ship.
I blame it all on killing of "Blackstaff". Everyone else gets to come back and he remained dead and now the novels are gone...
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creyzi4zb12
Learned Scribe

Philippines
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Posted - 13 Sep 2018 :  07:32:46  Show Profile  Visit creyzi4zb12's Homepage Send creyzi4zb12 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gyor

Not FR novels, but now that Ravnica is a D&D Setting, do the two Ravnica novels count as D&D novels?


If thatís the case, it seems like D&d is slowly abandoning forgotten realms for novels and now focusing on Ravnica.

I can only hope for one big crossover. At least to let the Realms stay alive.

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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore

Australia
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Posted - 13 Sep 2018 :  08:56:10  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Realms are alive. Just not in terms of fiction. No gameworld is alive in terms of fiction, not even the greatest fiction gameworld: Dragonlance. WotC is now a gaming company, not a novel publishing house.

-- George Krashos

"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus
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sleyvas
Great Reader

USA
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Posted - 13 Sep 2018 :  13:21:27  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey Krash, just wondering if you know something on numbers... I personally always got the feel that past the initial like 12 major Krynn novels, the setting as a novel line was failing and that FR was selling more novels in general. Not that it really makes a lot of difference now, but since you talked with Ed and others who were on the inside, maybe you heard something that was different than my gut feel. Don't get me wrong, I loved the major Krynn novels, but a lot of the secondaries suffered.

Alavairthae, may your skill prevail

Phillip aka Sleyvas
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Giant Snake
Acolyte

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Posted - 13 Apr 2019 :  22:02:11  Show Profile Send Giant Snake a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you were new, and with all the books available, where would you start? Looking for books in general of Forgotten Realms' world.

Edited by - Giant Snake on 13 Apr 2019 22:05:02
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 14 Apr 2019 :  01:46:48  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Giant Snake

If you were new, and with all the books available, where would you start? Looking for books in general of Forgotten Realms' world.



Though we never quite reached a consensus, this is a topic that was discussed at length in the Experienced help for recommending FR Novels thread. Perusing that scroll may be helpful for you.

Me, I always recommend any of the books by Elaine Cunningham, or the ones by Kate Novak and Jeff Grubb. Elfshadow, by Elaine, or Azure Bonds, by Novak and Grubb, are wonderful places to start -- both are good stories, and both do a great job of showcasing the setting, as well.

(I met Jeff Grubb at GenCon one year and told him of my usual recommendations to new folks, and he immediately started praising Elaine's work! He didn't seem to even notice that I'd mentioned the stuff he and Kate Novak wrote.)

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Giant Snake
Acolyte

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Posted - 16 Apr 2019 :  03:40:13  Show Profile Send Giant Snake a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks! I'll check those out next, once I finish all the Drizzt books. Long story short, I got the first Drizzt book because the cover art appealed to me and it was a very memorable time in my life. I haven't gotten into Forgotten Realms a whole lot, but it all brings back good memories for me. Sadly quit reading all fiction for a long time. Definitely ready to explore more of the stories out there once I finish with where I started.

Edited by - Giant Snake on 16 Apr 2019 03:41:07
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